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Dolphins John Beck evaluation might be revisited in 2011

First a disclaimer: Yes, another quarterback post.

I cannot help it.

Look, basically I'm going to hold my breath, I'm going to yell from the highest mountain, I'm going to pout, I'm going to write blog post after blog post and column upon column until the Miami Dolphins have a quarterback everyone can believe in. So you are free to join me in a growing chorus of folks demanding a good (doesn't even have to be great, but at least not embarrassing) quarterback for Miami.

Or you are free to think I'm just over the top and a foof and need to chill about a quarterback because, it's not that important, and it has only been about 14 years since the Dolphins had a great one, and it's not that big a deal.

You decide.

Having said that:

Most NFL teams are graded by how successful they are at acquiring, maintaining or developing a starting quarterback. Being as that the Dolphins are an NFL team, they aren't exempt from such scrutiny.

And up to now, while the team had done nothing to prove it is good at acquiring a good quarterback -- neither Chad Henne, Pat White nor Josh McCown turned in good seasons -- it's ability to maintain a good quarterback was not in question because Chad Pennington came to the team with solid experience and credentials and played up to those in 2008 while leading Miami to the AFC East title. So in that regard, the Dolphins kept what was a good thing a good thing.

Developing a quarterback? Well, you'll remember the Dolphins had quarterbacks on the roster when Bill Parcells-Jeff Ireland-Tony Sparano took over. Cleo Lemon was jettisoned and so far that decision was proven correct as he's no longer in the NFL. And no one questioned the release of John Beck because we all remember his struggles as a rookie and watched him struggle during the 2008 training camp QB battle.

But ...

Here we are, three years after that battle and the Beck ghost is threatening to haunt this Dolphins front office and coaching staff. Beck, you see, has somehow gone from being a bust that was cut by Miami to a backup in Baltimore, to a guy who might be the starter in Washington in 2011 -- assuming the season ever begins.

Beck's rise in Washington has been bizarre in that he is apparently ahead of Donovan McNabb on the depth chart yet has not taken even one snap in a game during his time there.

Folk in Washington are understandibly asking how it is Beck could make such a rise when he's had four years with little NFL success. Believe it or not, Beck's plausible explanation is that the Dolphins screwed him.

“When [Bill Parcells] first got there, I really liked Bill,” the quarterback told Washington radio station 102.1 several weeks ago. “Bill treated me like I was gonna be the guy. I would be in the weight room working out and he would come and stand by my squat rack, talk to me. He’d catch me in the hall or he’d have someone tell me, 'Hey John, Bill wants to see you.' I’d go sit in his office and he’d tell me, 'hey I believe that you can do this for us, I really like what you do, I think you remind me a lot of Tony Romo, things are gonna be great.'

“And then all of the sudden Brett Favre goes to the Jets, Chad Pennington becomes available, boom, that was it, done. And I went from competing for the starting job with Josh McCown to then the No. 3 on the roster overnight. So it was crazy, and then as the season went on they focused on Chad Pennington’s our guy and Chad Henne’s who we drafted so he's our future."

Despite looking like he was afraid of his own shadow in the locker room, Beck went on to say he was playing hardball with the Dolphins behind closed doors.

“So when the [2008] season ended," he told the radio station, "I went in and asked for a release. I kind of saw the writing on the wall. I don’t want to be the backup. That’s not why I play the game. I’m not the type of person who can be happy getting a paycheck and not playing. I want to be the guy playing, and I went and asked for a release, and me and Bill got into it a little bit there. So at this point, I’m not the biggest Tuna fan.”

Beck was eventually released on April 27, 2009 after two years with the team and more than one full year with the current administration. Obviously the current front office and coaching staff didn't see enough in Beck to warrant keeping him.

But here's the thing: That doesn't bother anyone as long as John Beck is a backup. That doesn't bother anyone as long as he goes to Baltimore and then gets traded to the Redskins without fanfare. Miami's decision to cut ties with Beck is even deemed correct if he becomes the starter in Washington and is mediocre at best.

But if he somehow continues his improbable climb from scrubino in Miami to scrubino in Baltimore to viable or outstanding starter in Washington, that makes Mike Shanahan look like a genius. And it makes the folks in Baltimore and the folks in Miami look, well, like they missed something.

If Beck somehow blossoms in Washingto, fans here will probably wonder what the Redskins were able to do that the Dolphins weren't able to do, what strings they pulled, what techniques they adjusted that the Dolphins didn't.

The Dolphins obviously saw something of value in Beck. They kept him for a year.

But they eventually gave up on him. So now that evaluation (so far proven correct) is on the hook again. If this kid shines in Washington, Dolphins fans will ask why Miami didn't hang on to him.

Is that fair? You betcha!

That's the business.

Personally, I wouldn't sweat John Beck just yet. Yesterday on Sirius he was talking like he's the presumed starter in Washington. "I believe I'm a starter in the NFL," he said.

But until he actually is that, Miami's decision to waive him won't be judged as questionable. And unless he plays well once he starts, that decision certainly cannot be judged as wrong.

You might argue that John Beck might have blossomed after four years and so there is no rightful expectation for the Dolphins to wait that long. Wrong. Teams wait that long for quarterbacks to blossom all the time.

I refer you to Aaron Rodgers, who didn't play until his third NFL season.

I present to you Houston's Matt Shaub, who led the NFL in passing yards in 2009 after sitting for a long time behind Michael Vick in Atlanta.

I refer you to Henne. The Dolphins have continued to wait on him to blossom and he could very well be the starter in 2011 despite not playing exceedingly well in 2009 or 2010.

Teams wait for QBs.

The Dolphins chose not to wait on Beck. They cut him loose. And he might get his opportunity in Washington. So Miami's quaterback evaluation might again be on the line.

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I honestly have no idea what Armando's thinking in regards to Beck.

Beck is smallish, not very mobile and has a fluttering rainbow deep ball.

I didn't get too see a whole lot of him, but I feel like I've seen enough. His decision making process seemed suspect at best. He tends to get happy feet and goes into panic mode at the snap of the ball.

I "came around" to the beck pick, just like i always do with Dolphin picks and I hoped for the best. Still, having said that, I never seen anything from Beck that makes me think he can succeed at this level.

PS: As far as getting any Henne organized workout news from Armando, you can forget about it. Armando swings from the nads of every has been and wanna be QB like George In The Jungle and then calls Henne an embarrassment.

Armando is what Armando is. Usually extremely shortsighted.

Henne doesn't return his calls or his tweets.

I hate the off-season!!!

This is what we get? Speculation about a QB that used to be on our team? Who cares?

Mando! Way to dig for some relevent info! C'mon man! Give us something we can sink our teeth into! Make a phone call, or two, and find out SOMETHING! Are the Dolphins working out somewhere? Are the rookies there? Does Henne look and feel any better than last year? Something...for crying out loud!

CHEIF DYING BREED,WHO"S YOUR PLAYER OF THE DAY TODAY?,AND WHAT DID YOU HAVE FOR LUNCH TODAY?,PRUNES I BET.

Why is Aloco's post showing up under the Cuban Menaces sign in?

WHAT KIND OF TRECHERY IDS GOING ON HERE?

I feel Tyler Thigpen is in the same position now. Not given a legit shot to show us what he's got. This regime is too hard headed in their commitment to Henne.
I still believe hes the best QB on the current roster.
Its like we throw these guys to the dogs and expect them to perform immediately under the worst circumstances possible (Bears game)...then when they fall flat, its "oh, this guy sucks, NEXT"
And I dont agree with the theory, "ok kid, this is your one shot".....I know big time players at times sieze that opportunity, but usually not QB's

WE HAVE TO HAVE A NEW QB, IF WE ARE EVER GOING TO MAKE THE PLAYOFF OR WIN THE SUPER BOWL WE HAVE TO HAVE A NEW QB....WE CAN'T DO IT WITH WHAT WE HAVE NOW ...........GET A QB AND DO IT SOON .......... I LOVE THE DOLPHINS, BUT, THIS HAS GONE ON TOO LONG ...GET A QB !!!!!!!!!!

TUCK,THE ONLY QB FOR MAIMI IS THE GRAET JACORE HARIS FROM THE "U".

Armando:

Here we are, three years after that battle and the Beck ghost is threatening to haunt this Dolphins front office and coaching staff.

-ROTFLMAO- Ghost? Threatening? This is RICH and very theatrical! Never mind that it has no basis in reality. At least it's FUNNY!


Armando:

Beck, you see, has somehow gone from being a bust that was cut by Miami to a backup in Baltimore, to a guy who might be the starter in Washington in 2011 -- assuming the season ever begins.

-The FO didn't label Beck a bust and cut him. Beck saw the "lay of the land" then asked for and got a release.

-If Beck was the backup in Baltimore, who was Marc Bulger and why did they draft Tyrod Taylor?

Armando:

Beck's rise in Washington has been bizarre in that he is apparently ahead of Donovan McNabb on the depth chart yet has not taken even one snap in a game during his time there.

-Armando speaks of a bizarre rise, yet notes in the same paragraph that Beck hasn't even taken one snap. Hmmmmmmmmmm.............?

I guess Armando's never heard of DESPERATION leading too Quarterback by DEFAULT.

There's so much wrong with this blog I just HAVE to believe Armando was trying to give us some comic relief during some trying times.

Good One Mando, VERY FUNNY!!!!

odin @1;31,

Well said and I`ll take it a step further about Mando and his posting lately, did you notice the other day on his post about D.Williams that he wrote along the lines of the court ruling in favor of the players would basically put an end to all of this and put the season back on under last years uncapped rules?

I thought it interesting because either Mando doesn`t bother following whats going on or he`s just to lazy to post something on the facts because anybody who`s been following can tell you the owners are threatening with cancelling the upcoming season if need be and no Court in the U.S. be it Regional, State or Federal can stop them from doing that. I also as well would like to know what`s going on with player organized work outs.

WITH OUT A SEASON WHAT WILL THE GANG OF DEFEET COMPLAIN ABUOT?

Odin/fin, one more option Mando didn't explore, espn.com is reporting that this Beck talk from Shanahan is simply a ploy to divert others from thinking the 'Skins will be in the hunt for a FA QB pickup (possibly Palmer). This could simply be a deceptive move to throw everyone off the scent.

Who knows, but if Beck does indeed start and play well, I for one won't be criticizing the Trifecta too much for getting rid of him (but yes, we probably should have tried trading him first to get something in return).

DC,

That`s an interesting theory on Shanahan`s motives but I`ll tell you that if that`s what he`s doing then I `ve moved to actually feeling sorry for a very crushed Beck under those circumstances if you take what he`s been saying on local radio into consideration.

Fin,

That's a good point. I hammered on Armando enough for one day, so I'll just say, maybe he's been misinformed-LOL.

A ruling in favor of the players wouldn't necessarily mean we automatically revert to last years rules.

The way I understand it, reverting to last years rules is a mediation matter completely aside from the legalities and court rulings.

A stop gap proposition to get this season underway and deal with a new CBA next off season.

LOL fin, exactly. Up here everyone's thinking Beck is the knight in shining armor. He gave this interview recently and all radio is talking about now is how well-spoken he is, driven, confident. It's funny, I try to tell people not to get too excited, but they don't listen (it's like us last year thinking Henne was going to take us to the Playoffs).

I would feel awful for Beck if this was all a ruse, but I would laugh at these fans who are thinking he's the ticket back to the SuperBowl.

Trechery, is pronounced trechery, ALoco? Man, I'm getting a phonetics class. Better late than never.

odin,

I`m going to see if I can find you the link to the article I saw on PFT regarding the owners agreeing to play under last years terms and it said very matter of factly, that the owners don`t really see this as an option because the worry is that if they go down that road it could conceivably turn into a few years of playing under these rules while delaying a new CBA before they end up right back were they started this off-season which makes little financial sense for them (owners).

DC,

I think even if he plays you`ll get the last laugh on that one, I don`t wanna dump on Beck because he does come of as a good guy and you want to pull for him but his history so far doesn`t inspire confidence. Did you remind folks he couldn`t get past McCown on Miami`s depth chart ?

Will the lockout end soon please..we are now starting to discuss John Beck!!! smh!!! nooooooo lol

Fin,

I read some about this already.

I agree that it wouldn't make sense for the owners financially, at least in the long term. I still think it's more of a leverage tactic.

The owners wouldn't suffer going ahead ONE more season under last years rules. Also, I don't think either side even thinks for one second that this would be allowed to continue further than this season.

These guys are shrewed businessmen. while I can't see one more year under these rules hurting them really, I can't see them passing up the chance to tighten the screws.

Ultimately, I think the owners feel they got the upper hand now and this upcoming TV money decision will be the "deal Breaker".

They don't want to back down now or make any kind of concession like playing under last years rules.

odin,


Solid point and yeah it wouldn`t kill them and would definitely win alot of favor with fans. I just thought I would share it with you because it (PFT post) basically says that ownerships prespective is, this gets solved now or it gets solved now!!!!

Yeah, that's the biggie, he couldn't even outplay Josh McCown. That should tell you everything you need to know about the guy. But, that was Year 2 for him, maybe he's learned something in the past 3 years (or whatever it's been).

ODIN,

DO YOU KNOW OF CHEF DYING BREED IS WORKING ON ANY SPECIAL LIKE DERRICK LOCKE ?

FIN4LIFE ALWAYS SAYS FINE POINT TO EVERY ONE ,HE TOLD CHEF DYING BREED LAST NIGHT HE HAD A FINE POINT AND SUPPORTED THE DOLPHINS SIGNING OF DERRICK LOCKE .........

DC,

Hopefully it works out for him but being down there you know better than anybody in S.Fla that he really won`t have much to work with even if he gets the nod. He has no interior O-Line to speak of, who`s going to be the featured back ? Is A.Armstrong a legit #1 Rec. since S.Moss looks like he`s done ? If a Salary Cap is put in place what wiggle room do they have to address some of there needs given that they will be eating the prorated part of A.Haynsworth`s signing bonus which I saw on NFL.Net will be around a 13.5 Mil hit. Given all of these uncertainties I don`t think alot of NFL Q.B.`s will be envying him any time soon.

If Henne somehow blossoms in Miami, Who cares about Beck?

I wish Beck the best, the kid worked really hard to get where he is today. GOD Bless him.

Some Quarterbacks take YEARS to develop into the player coaches & GM's had envisioned.
Only the GREAT # 13 was the man from the word GO.

ALoco @3:20,

If your right your right, I won`t spend my time arguing a point of view if you post one that I have no argument for and yes I do think Derrik Locke as an undrafted FA is better than what we have in Korey Sheets. By the way congratulations your spelling seems to be improving with a little more effort you may be able someday to have a coherent conversation with The Professor Tony Sparano.

AMAZING YOU NEVER SEA F4L AND CHIEF DYING BREAD THE SAME TIME.I WONDER WHY?

CHEIF DYING BREED,WHO"S YOUR PLAYER OF THE DAY TODAY?,AND WHAT DID YOU HAVE FOR LUNCH TODAY?,PRUNES I BET.

Posted by: Cuban Menace | May 18, 2011 at 01:35 PM
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Looks like sombody effed up...and forgot sign out before
posting as another alias.....

I'm convinced their are only 7.....maybe 10 real people on this site......

ALoco,

That is exactly what I mean keep at it I`m very proud of you, I understood every word at this rate I will set up a round table discussion between you The Professor Sparano and Forrest Gump, I`m sure everybody feels like I do in pulling for you buddy!!!

Kris,

Good eye I missed that one by the way if you notice I always sign in that`s why my name appears in blue. The significance of that is if you press enter over my name it will give you a history of everything I`ve posted in order to avoid confusion.

WOW, ALOC IS REALLY CUBAN MENANCE TOO? tHAT IS INDISPUTABLE TRUTH ALOCO DOES COME HERE AND ARGUE WITH HIMSELF. AS THE CUBAN MENANCE CHARACTER HE BASICALLY CONFESSED HE DOES SNIFF GLUE UPON POSTING HERE. LOL..........

Fins need a New Head coach.

ANYTHING SHORT OF FULL CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATION MAY FINALLY REVEAL ALOCO AND ALL OF THE ALIAS ARE ARMANDO FRAUDULENTLY "DOING ALIASES OF MANY" TO INCREASE BLOG HITS.

Armondo, to many (if's) in your article, what (if) Henne is better this year? what if you give him a chance with a new oc and better supporting cast

Fin4Life.....

I am the same way.....I am always stay signed in in blue....for the same reason as you posted.....I stand behind what I say....right or wrong....and am prepared to take crap from others if/when I am wrong.....

The only exception to that....is when I am at work...my job no longer allows me to sign in.....which is probably a good thing.....so I post less from work than I used to because of that reason.....

So if I'm in black.....i'm either at work....or its ain't me......

FIN4LIFE........ CHEF DAYING BREED WAS BUSY TODAY FAKING EVERY ONE INCLUDING ME @ 4;12 PM.I ASSUMED YOU WOULD KNOW ......


CHEF BREED, WHAT'S YOUR SPECIAL TODAY ?

DO NOT RESPOND TO ALOCO. IT'S ARMANDO SEEKING TO GET US TO RESPOND AND INCREASE "BLOG HITS".

THE LEGITIMACY OF THIS BLOG HAS FALLEN STRAIGHT INTO THE CRAPPER!

LET'S STAY WITH DERRICK LOKE UNTIL CHEF BREED SAY HE'S SORRY .

IT"S QUITE EASY TO HIGHJACK PEOPLES NAME RIGHT KRIS?

ARMANDO AND DB ARE OUT OF CONTROL .

it is Kris......and thats a shame

ALOCO = ARMANDO SEEKING BLOG HITS

CHEF BREED.... DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT,STAY WITH DERRICK LOCKE .

DYING BREED WISHES I AM ARMANDO TO GET BLOGGERS OFF THE SUBJECT OF HIS SPECIAL OF THE DAY ,DERRICK LOCKE .................


ALOCO = ARMANDO,

ITS ESPECIALLY EASY TO HIJACK OTHER'S NAME WHEN YOURE AT THE CONTROL SWITCH. LOL..

ALOCO = ARMANDO,

WHO BETTER KNOWS ALL OF THE "LOOPHOLE" IN THE SYSTEM BETTER THAN YOU.

I AGREE WITH THAT DYING BREED ..I AM ALSO OF THE THINKING ARMANDO FAKES A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TO MAKE THEM FIGHT AND HE SITS ON HIS BEHIND LAUGHING ...HE FAKES ME MOST OF THE TIME .

ALOCO = ARMANDO,

ALSO QUITE A COINCENCE THE FIRST LETTER OF BOTH YOUR NAMES BEGIN WITH THE LETTER "A" TOO. LOL......

THE ONLY NAME IS FAKED EVERY NIGHT AND ARMANDO NEVER GIVE A DAMN IS MY NAME ...HE THE FAKER IN CHIEF .

COINCIDENCE

SEEMS I AND DYING BREED AGREE ON ARMANDO BEING THE NO 1 FAKER OF ALL PEOPLE .

ALOCO = ARMANDO,

THATS EXACTLY WHY YOU DONT GIVE A DAMN. YOU ARE ALOCO MR. ARMANDO. NOW EVERYTHING'S BEGINNING TO ALL ADD UP. LOL........

DB,


ARMANDO IS VERY UN ETHICAL GUY,FROM THE STATE OF FL LIKE YOU .

MR ALOCO = MR ARMANDO,

YOU NOW COMPLAIN WHY YOU CONTINUE TO FAKE YOUR FAKE. LOL........

.....AND ALLOW IT! LOL........

INCREDIBLE!

DB,


ARE YOU DRINKING ?

THAT WAS THE BEST LAUGH I HAD IN A MONTH .

DB,


ARE YOU DRINKING B/C I CAUGHT YOU ON DERRICK LOCKE ?

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