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Dolphins John Beck evaluation might be revisited in 2011

First a disclaimer: Yes, another quarterback post.

I cannot help it.

Look, basically I'm going to hold my breath, I'm going to yell from the highest mountain, I'm going to pout, I'm going to write blog post after blog post and column upon column until the Miami Dolphins have a quarterback everyone can believe in. So you are free to join me in a growing chorus of folks demanding a good (doesn't even have to be great, but at least not embarrassing) quarterback for Miami.

Or you are free to think I'm just over the top and a foof and need to chill about a quarterback because, it's not that important, and it has only been about 14 years since the Dolphins had a great one, and it's not that big a deal.

You decide.

Having said that:

Most NFL teams are graded by how successful they are at acquiring, maintaining or developing a starting quarterback. Being as that the Dolphins are an NFL team, they aren't exempt from such scrutiny.

And up to now, while the team had done nothing to prove it is good at acquiring a good quarterback -- neither Chad Henne, Pat White nor Josh McCown turned in good seasons -- it's ability to maintain a good quarterback was not in question because Chad Pennington came to the team with solid experience and credentials and played up to those in 2008 while leading Miami to the AFC East title. So in that regard, the Dolphins kept what was a good thing a good thing.

Developing a quarterback? Well, you'll remember the Dolphins had quarterbacks on the roster when Bill Parcells-Jeff Ireland-Tony Sparano took over. Cleo Lemon was jettisoned and so far that decision was proven correct as he's no longer in the NFL. And no one questioned the release of John Beck because we all remember his struggles as a rookie and watched him struggle during the 2008 training camp QB battle.

But ...

Here we are, three years after that battle and the Beck ghost is threatening to haunt this Dolphins front office and coaching staff. Beck, you see, has somehow gone from being a bust that was cut by Miami to a backup in Baltimore, to a guy who might be the starter in Washington in 2011 -- assuming the season ever begins.

Beck's rise in Washington has been bizarre in that he is apparently ahead of Donovan McNabb on the depth chart yet has not taken even one snap in a game during his time there.

Folk in Washington are understandibly asking how it is Beck could make such a rise when he's had four years with little NFL success. Believe it or not, Beck's plausible explanation is that the Dolphins screwed him.

“When [Bill Parcells] first got there, I really liked Bill,” the quarterback told Washington radio station 102.1 several weeks ago. “Bill treated me like I was gonna be the guy. I would be in the weight room working out and he would come and stand by my squat rack, talk to me. He’d catch me in the hall or he’d have someone tell me, 'Hey John, Bill wants to see you.' I’d go sit in his office and he’d tell me, 'hey I believe that you can do this for us, I really like what you do, I think you remind me a lot of Tony Romo, things are gonna be great.'

“And then all of the sudden Brett Favre goes to the Jets, Chad Pennington becomes available, boom, that was it, done. And I went from competing for the starting job with Josh McCown to then the No. 3 on the roster overnight. So it was crazy, and then as the season went on they focused on Chad Pennington’s our guy and Chad Henne’s who we drafted so he's our future."

Despite looking like he was afraid of his own shadow in the locker room, Beck went on to say he was playing hardball with the Dolphins behind closed doors.

“So when the [2008] season ended," he told the radio station, "I went in and asked for a release. I kind of saw the writing on the wall. I don’t want to be the backup. That’s not why I play the game. I’m not the type of person who can be happy getting a paycheck and not playing. I want to be the guy playing, and I went and asked for a release, and me and Bill got into it a little bit there. So at this point, I’m not the biggest Tuna fan.”

Beck was eventually released on April 27, 2009 after two years with the team and more than one full year with the current administration. Obviously the current front office and coaching staff didn't see enough in Beck to warrant keeping him.

But here's the thing: That doesn't bother anyone as long as John Beck is a backup. That doesn't bother anyone as long as he goes to Baltimore and then gets traded to the Redskins without fanfare. Miami's decision to cut ties with Beck is even deemed correct if he becomes the starter in Washington and is mediocre at best.

But if he somehow continues his improbable climb from scrubino in Miami to scrubino in Baltimore to viable or outstanding starter in Washington, that makes Mike Shanahan look like a genius. And it makes the folks in Baltimore and the folks in Miami look, well, like they missed something.

If Beck somehow blossoms in Washingto, fans here will probably wonder what the Redskins were able to do that the Dolphins weren't able to do, what strings they pulled, what techniques they adjusted that the Dolphins didn't.

The Dolphins obviously saw something of value in Beck. They kept him for a year.

But they eventually gave up on him. So now that evaluation (so far proven correct) is on the hook again. If this kid shines in Washington, Dolphins fans will ask why Miami didn't hang on to him.

Is that fair? You betcha!

That's the business.

Personally, I wouldn't sweat John Beck just yet. Yesterday on Sirius he was talking like he's the presumed starter in Washington. "I believe I'm a starter in the NFL," he said.

But until he actually is that, Miami's decision to waive him won't be judged as questionable. And unless he plays well once he starts, that decision certainly cannot be judged as wrong.

You might argue that John Beck might have blossomed after four years and so there is no rightful expectation for the Dolphins to wait that long. Wrong. Teams wait that long for quarterbacks to blossom all the time.

I refer you to Aaron Rodgers, who didn't play until his third NFL season.

I present to you Houston's Matt Shaub, who led the NFL in passing yards in 2009 after sitting for a long time behind Michael Vick in Atlanta.

I refer you to Henne. The Dolphins have continued to wait on him to blossom and he could very well be the starter in 2011 despite not playing exceedingly well in 2009 or 2010.

Teams wait for QBs.

The Dolphins chose not to wait on Beck. They cut him loose. And he might get his opportunity in Washington. So Miami's quaterback evaluation might again be on the line.

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IT"S QUITE EASY TO HIGHJACK PEOPLES NAME RIGHT KRIS?

Posted by: Kris | May 18, 2011 at 04:43 PM

The problem with your theory here fake imposter kris is this.....

When I click on the BLUE you signed in on.....I see you have faked me on 5 times since MARCH 31ST......2 times today.....

While i'm HONORED that you would take the time to create an e-mail adress just to post in my name...I have to admit I find it a bit creepy.....but i'm still honored......feel like I have jit rock star status.....

Was that you I saw last night when I was walking my dog????

Here's the DEAL......I click on BLUE when you posted under my name....and 5 POST POP- UP.....

Click on BLUE UNDER THIS POST.....see how man old post show-up......

GOOD LUCK CATCHING UP.....I GOT LIKE A 2 AND A HALF YEAR HEAD START ON YOU.....

CHIEF BREED DRINKS THE WHITE MANZ FIRE WATER.

The example of John Beck is symptomatic to the difficulty of finding a top flight QB.

Teams are missing on QB's all the time. Which means teams are trying on QB's all the time.

I think your QB has to be 6'4 + now. The lines are just too tall.

And I offer that in the modern game the staff responsible for evaluation and development at the QB position has become of critical importance.

And an area where the Dolphins have been missing for a decade plus.


IMO the need for talent at the position ought to be enough for the organization look past character issues and give V Young a chance.

KRIS,


ALSO THE FAKE BLUE ALOCO HAS ONLY 3 POSTS SINCE HE CREATED THE BLUE NAME AND MOST OF THE TIME HE FAKES ME IN BLACK ,BUT WHEN I PRESS ON ALOCO IN BLUE THE HERALD PAPER COMES AS THE HOME FIRST .

ALOCO = ARMANDO,

IF YOU HAD DID PROPER RESEARCH YOU WOULD HAVE FOUND LOCKE WAS A EVERY DOWN RB AT KY. THUS THE INJURY HISTORY. WE ONLY NEED A GUY LIKE THAT AS A 10-15 CARRY PER GAME GUY AT MAX.

IM SURE YOU ALSO CHOOSE TO IGNORE THE FACT MANY CAOMPARE HIM AS A SLIGHTLY SMALLER VERSION OF CHRIS JOHNSON. HEY BRAINIAC, GETTING A GUY LIKE THAT AS A UFA IS FAR FROM A GAMBLE. HE DIDNT COST YOU ANYTHING IDIOT! LOL.......

FAKE ALoco @ 5;01 ....why armando DOESN'T SAY WHO DOES IT UNLESS HE'S ARMANDO AND DYING BREED AT THE SAME TIME .......

This day keeps getting better......

Aloco now writes in perfect english......and I have a STALKER swing from my nuts......

Even though I JUST proved to him/her (PLEASE GOD LET IT BE A HER).......how easily disprovable his/HER post are......

PS....IF YOU ARE A GIRL.....LEAVE SOME PANTIES OUTSIDE OF MY HOUSE TONIGHT.....MAYBE WE CAN WORK SOMETHING OUT.....

KRIS...ADVICE TO YOU..... FORGET ME AND TAKE ME OUT OF YOUR BRAIN UNLESS YOU WANT SAY SORRY TO ME FOR THE 100 TIMES .


kris,

We know Kris with the capital "K" IS ALoco = Armando at it again. LOL...

AGREE WITH DB @ 5;08 PM.

Wow! How bored do you have to be to take the time to register in blue to fake names let alone black!

ALoco = Armando, you really need a corporate vacation asap! LOL.....

kris,

ALoco = Armando just agreed to faking you:

AGREE WITH DB @ 5;08 PM.

Posted by: ALoco | May 18, 2011 at 05:10 PM


DB@ 5:08PM:

kris,

We know Kris with the capital "K" IS ALoco = Armando at it again. LOL...


DB.....I'm starting to think you are RIGHT....About this Armando=Aloco thing (and who knows who else).....

I know you have stated it many times.....and i really didn't pay much attention to it.....but now....if you remember......

About a month to 6 weeks ago.....when the impostering and insults had gotten so OUT OF CONTROL that many of us threatened to leave the blog.......Remember THE ONLY THING ARMANDO said....was that ALOCO WAS NOT CUBAN MENACE.....

Then today we see that slip-up on the previous page....

I SMELL A RAT........

Kris/DB,

I personally am proud of the bang up job we`ve all done in teaching ALoco how to write in perfect English. DB imagine he can now almost with a little more effort actually hold a coherent conversation with the Professor Sparano

Kris,

I had actually thought of that and will post you what my exact complaint was to Armando becaue I still have it and make of it what you will.

KRIS'SPOST @ 5;14 IS A GOOD ONE ALTHOUGH HE FAILED TO SAY THAT ARMANDO DIDN'T SAY WHO HAKES MY NAME .....ARMANDO FAKES EVERY ONE TO CREATE FIGHTS AND LAUGH ALL THE WAY TO THE BANCK .

kris,

Also remember during the time most were threatening leaving the blog ALoco + Armando began playing "peace-maker role". Hmmm.... LOL

ALoco = Armando! LOL.........

kris/fin4life,

Do you guys think we can call up espn and have them report a blog writer from a major sports market(Miami) fakes names to fraudently increase his own blog hits? If we ever got indisputable proof of it Aloco = Armando couldnt even get a job at the local morgue writing obituaries. LOL.....

The date when we all pitched a fit was March 29, here is what I sent Armando along with his reply


Dear Armando Salguero,

I am a regular and faithful participant on your/our blogg, after taking some time to check out all web sites about the Dolphins I settled on the Herald`s Dolphins in depth because of the in depth knowledge and intelligent feedback posted by the sites regulars. There has always been like on any other website those who post comments at others in an attempt to be humerous, make lite of others or simpley be round and about jerks with there negative comments, not aimed at the topic mind you but at others in particular and for the most part everybody is good about it, ignoring it.

However over the course of the last week the comments have taken a turn from simple of topic pranks to something else all together. I can think of 4 regulars who have complained of having there respective handles used by some to post outlandish and crude remarks at others causing as you can understand confussion. I myself was answering one of them on Sunday evening when I noticed something was off in his remarks only to recieve a post from the person I thought I was speaking/posting to telling me that he wasn`t the person answering me ? I can give you over the last week in particular any number of examples of this aside, from others who post under multiple screen names, changing back and forth depending on who there focusing there cyber assault on.

I can tell you with certainty that the ring leader of these cyber highjackings is a person who seems to use "Aloco" as his main cultive personality/alter ego his high jinks have gone mostly ignored but over the last week have escalated to the point were alot of your regulars including myself are pondering leaving the site, two in particular have already called it a day for good but before making such a rash decision I thought I would do my part to bring it to your attention in the hopes that you would address it in a matter befitting the site, so those of us who enjoy our time on there can keep rapping Dolphins Football without needing to constantly address the Soap Opra Like high drama some wish to turn it into, thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
fin4life
regular Dolphins in depth


Dear fin4life,

Checked into everything you said. I'm watching the site and will ban anyone who impersonates anyone else. I added a comment on the most recent post about that. Please post a comment so I'll have your IP address. This will prevent anyone from impersonating you in the future.
Best,

I ONLY POSTS AS MESELF NO ONE ELSE.

NO ONE CAN PROOF ARMAND=ME B/C IT'S A WAST OF TIME BUT YOU CAN PROFF HE FAKES THE HELL OUT OF PEOPLE'S NAMES WITH NO MERCY OR ANY INTEGRITY.

I SUPPORT FIN4LIFE..... BAN ANY ONE FAKES ANY ONE ...IN OTHER WORD ARMANDO WILL BAN HIMSELF .

fin4life,

The impersonations still go on and no one has yet to be banned. Impersonations = blog hits. The person doing the most impersonations + ALoco. The person benifiting most + Armando.

So it isnt too farfetched to believe ALoco = Armando. Cased Closed!

DB,


CASE CLOSED IN YOUE AS SS.DUMB AS HELL ....TALK TO US ABOUT DERRICK LOCKE ,PLEASE .

kris,

Next time you email Armando been the message:

"Dear ALoco"

LOL.....................

DB,

I think you have a legit case if we can proove it I smell an Emmy after our ESPN expose.

CHEF DB,


WHAT'S YOUR SPECIAL PLAYER FOR TODAY ?


ONE ARM PLAYER ?

CHEF BREED,TILL USE ABUOT MR.LOCKER.

fin4life,

Next time you email Armando began the message:

"Dear ALoco"

LOL.....................

fin4life,

You, kris, and I will be sitting in the audience watching the next espn espy's live. Have you planned your acceptance speech yet? LOL

Fake posters make my head hurt.

WE NEED TO HEAR YOUR SPECIAL PLAYER FOR THE DAY DB LIKE DERRICK LOCKE WHO DIDN'T HAVE ANY FEELING IN HIS ARM LAST YEAR AND YOU WANT US TO SIGN HIM FOR MULTI YEARS .

DB,

We accept together and highjack the show for 10 minutes with our individual speeches and shout out to friends and family after all we are representing Miami so make an impression we must!!

FIN4LIFE SOUND LIKE A PUDDLE FOR DB .

fin4life,

Im working on my Espy acceptance speech right now. Here a small part Ive come up with for now:

"I would especially like to thank the small people I trampled over to get here like Armando Salguero aka ALoco aka Fakes R Us"

How's that sound so far? LOL..

DB,

Who ever is posting as ALoco has been at it all day with Derrik Locke and I stick to what I said when you brought it up yesterday. I think he could be a real gem as an UFA and like his upside over Korey Sheets by leaps and bounds!!!

DB,

Your opening for your acceptance sounds great you now have me brainstorming one of my own.

WHO WILL THE GANG OF DEFEET(DB,F4L,ODIN,CUBEN, KRISSY) ROOT AGAINST IF THERS NOE SAESON THIS YAER?

DB.....

DB @ 5:24....that would be very embarrasing for for Armando if that could be proved to be true.....I don't know if it would make ESPN....but I would join you in trying to get it on their......maybe we get a cycle from 8am to 6 PM....30 seconds...maybe even a minute....

fin4life,

What makes it even worse, ALoco = Armando, seems to be far more Jetfan than Dolfan. Im sure ALoco = Armando is heavily recruiting Locke on his Jet sites.

He's bashing Locke here in hopes that Locke becomes a Jet. It wouldnt surprise me in the least if Locke becomes a Jet rather than Dolphin due to ALoco = Armando's heavy recruiting of him thru the Jet sites. LOL...

KRIS,TELL US ABUOT THE FERST TIME YUO FELL IN LOVE.WHAT WAZ HIS NAME?

HER

FIN4LIFE,


DB IS A JET FAN IN DISGUISE ....

FACTS ABOUT DB SPECIAL OF THE DAY DERRICK LOCKE ;;;

1- HE HAD SEVERE SHOULDER INJURY LAST YEAR .
2-HE HAD LOST HIS FEELINGS IN HIS ARM ON AND OFF AND AT ONE POINT LOST IT FOR 3 WEEKS WHEN HIS COACH SHOWED CONERN NOT PLAYING HIM FOR HIS WELL BEING .

3- DB DIDN'T SAY ANY THING ABOUT THAT, HE JUST KEPT SAYING HIS CRAP ABOUT THE SPECIAL AS THEY DO IN A CHEAP JOINT WHEN THEY HAVE PASTA PRIMAVERA .

Fin4Life....your e-mail was well written and much more detailed than mine. Let me see if I can find it.

WOW! ALL OF A SUDDEN ALOCO = ARMANDO CAN NO LONGER SPELL AGAIN. WOW! LOL.....

KRIS , DB JUST FAKED ME AGAIN .

ALoco = Armando,

We all know and are well aware you are saving promotions for Locke on your favorite Jet sites. We also know when he becomes a Jet you will be first in line to buy his jersey. LOL...

DB IS DRINKING HEAVILY BASED ON THE ....LOL

DB,

Do you enjoy a good conspiracy theory because Armando if you`ve noticed never bashed Parcells for helping the Jets in there hiring of Rex (Rexgate) I think you maybe dagerously close to the truth, Armando is involved in a conspiracy which reached the highest levels and was secretly working with Parcells to help the Jets all along, time to call the Feds!!!!

You guys ever consider fwhy for as long as ALoco = Armando has been posting here he has never had his name in blue?

No one's faking him. If he was so concerned about it and was a totally "legit poster" he would have gone "blue" far long ago.

Now carefully think about this.

Fin4Life....this was my e-mail....As I re-read it, and compare it with yours.....It is highly suspect as to why Aloco wasn't banned that night......considering we didn't collaberate at all.....and yet and still...they are quite similiar......
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Mr. Salguero,

This is Kris one of the posters from the Dolphins in Depth. I am writing because one of your poster's who mainly post under the sign in name Aloco has taken his usual antics of being mildly annoying to the extreme of making your Blog almst uninhabitable by the poster's who usually come to talk football, share ideas, and advance the conversation as you say.

If a picture is worth a thousand words, then what are two e-mails from at least two seperate poster's worth. A poster under the screen name Cocoajoe has stated on the blog that he has written you as well and even though I haven't seen his e-mail.

If two people are willing to write you, imagine how many voices are still silent.

Read through my post. I can hold my own. I don't cry on here. I have had many great debates, and I have had some embarassing arguments. and I own my part in all of them.

Read through this past weekend, and even into today (monday the 28th), the common denominator is the Aloco sign-in name and or IP address that i am sure has multiple screen names.

I am asking that you address this manner in a way that improves your forum.

Thanks in Advance,
Kris

fin4life,

LOL!

Guys, we now have to begin our emails to ALoco = Armando:

"Mr. ALoco" or "Mr. Undercover Jetfan"

Im totally serious! LOL.......

DB...@5:52....I was thinking the same thing......

KRIS,


YOU REMEMBER YOU SAID TO ME SORRY FOR ACCUSING ME OF FAKING YOU WHEN ARMANDO SAID SO ......ARMANDO NEVER SAYS WHO FAKES ME OR DB FAKES OR THE CUBAN MENCE..I BELIEVE HE 'S ALL OF THEM .

Kris,

Your point to Armando about two diff. posters complaining about the same thing almost verbatim was a good point. The thing you didn`t anticipate was you guys were not alone, it was more like 4 to 5 diff. voices compaining about the same thing. It`s funny how similar our posts were actually.

ALoco = Armando @ 6:06PM,

Back then no one suspected you really are Armando and felt quite remorseful for you. Now it seems we are closer to the truth even though we cant definitively prove it. LOL.....

DB STILL DRUNK

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