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Dolphins John Beck evaluation might be revisited in 2011

First a disclaimer: Yes, another quarterback post.

I cannot help it.

Look, basically I'm going to hold my breath, I'm going to yell from the highest mountain, I'm going to pout, I'm going to write blog post after blog post and column upon column until the Miami Dolphins have a quarterback everyone can believe in. So you are free to join me in a growing chorus of folks demanding a good (doesn't even have to be great, but at least not embarrassing) quarterback for Miami.

Or you are free to think I'm just over the top and a foof and need to chill about a quarterback because, it's not that important, and it has only been about 14 years since the Dolphins had a great one, and it's not that big a deal.

You decide.

Having said that:

Most NFL teams are graded by how successful they are at acquiring, maintaining or developing a starting quarterback. Being as that the Dolphins are an NFL team, they aren't exempt from such scrutiny.

And up to now, while the team had done nothing to prove it is good at acquiring a good quarterback -- neither Chad Henne, Pat White nor Josh McCown turned in good seasons -- it's ability to maintain a good quarterback was not in question because Chad Pennington came to the team with solid experience and credentials and played up to those in 2008 while leading Miami to the AFC East title. So in that regard, the Dolphins kept what was a good thing a good thing.

Developing a quarterback? Well, you'll remember the Dolphins had quarterbacks on the roster when Bill Parcells-Jeff Ireland-Tony Sparano took over. Cleo Lemon was jettisoned and so far that decision was proven correct as he's no longer in the NFL. And no one questioned the release of John Beck because we all remember his struggles as a rookie and watched him struggle during the 2008 training camp QB battle.

But ...

Here we are, three years after that battle and the Beck ghost is threatening to haunt this Dolphins front office and coaching staff. Beck, you see, has somehow gone from being a bust that was cut by Miami to a backup in Baltimore, to a guy who might be the starter in Washington in 2011 -- assuming the season ever begins.

Beck's rise in Washington has been bizarre in that he is apparently ahead of Donovan McNabb on the depth chart yet has not taken even one snap in a game during his time there.

Folk in Washington are understandibly asking how it is Beck could make such a rise when he's had four years with little NFL success. Believe it or not, Beck's plausible explanation is that the Dolphins screwed him.

“When [Bill Parcells] first got there, I really liked Bill,” the quarterback told Washington radio station 102.1 several weeks ago. “Bill treated me like I was gonna be the guy. I would be in the weight room working out and he would come and stand by my squat rack, talk to me. He’d catch me in the hall or he’d have someone tell me, 'Hey John, Bill wants to see you.' I’d go sit in his office and he’d tell me, 'hey I believe that you can do this for us, I really like what you do, I think you remind me a lot of Tony Romo, things are gonna be great.'

“And then all of the sudden Brett Favre goes to the Jets, Chad Pennington becomes available, boom, that was it, done. And I went from competing for the starting job with Josh McCown to then the No. 3 on the roster overnight. So it was crazy, and then as the season went on they focused on Chad Pennington’s our guy and Chad Henne’s who we drafted so he's our future."

Despite looking like he was afraid of his own shadow in the locker room, Beck went on to say he was playing hardball with the Dolphins behind closed doors.

“So when the [2008] season ended," he told the radio station, "I went in and asked for a release. I kind of saw the writing on the wall. I don’t want to be the backup. That’s not why I play the game. I’m not the type of person who can be happy getting a paycheck and not playing. I want to be the guy playing, and I went and asked for a release, and me and Bill got into it a little bit there. So at this point, I’m not the biggest Tuna fan.”

Beck was eventually released on April 27, 2009 after two years with the team and more than one full year with the current administration. Obviously the current front office and coaching staff didn't see enough in Beck to warrant keeping him.

But here's the thing: That doesn't bother anyone as long as John Beck is a backup. That doesn't bother anyone as long as he goes to Baltimore and then gets traded to the Redskins without fanfare. Miami's decision to cut ties with Beck is even deemed correct if he becomes the starter in Washington and is mediocre at best.

But if he somehow continues his improbable climb from scrubino in Miami to scrubino in Baltimore to viable or outstanding starter in Washington, that makes Mike Shanahan look like a genius. And it makes the folks in Baltimore and the folks in Miami look, well, like they missed something.

If Beck somehow blossoms in Washingto, fans here will probably wonder what the Redskins were able to do that the Dolphins weren't able to do, what strings they pulled, what techniques they adjusted that the Dolphins didn't.

The Dolphins obviously saw something of value in Beck. They kept him for a year.

But they eventually gave up on him. So now that evaluation (so far proven correct) is on the hook again. If this kid shines in Washington, Dolphins fans will ask why Miami didn't hang on to him.

Is that fair? You betcha!

That's the business.

Personally, I wouldn't sweat John Beck just yet. Yesterday on Sirius he was talking like he's the presumed starter in Washington. "I believe I'm a starter in the NFL," he said.

But until he actually is that, Miami's decision to waive him won't be judged as questionable. And unless he plays well once he starts, that decision certainly cannot be judged as wrong.

You might argue that John Beck might have blossomed after four years and so there is no rightful expectation for the Dolphins to wait that long. Wrong. Teams wait that long for quarterbacks to blossom all the time.

I refer you to Aaron Rodgers, who didn't play until his third NFL season.

I present to you Houston's Matt Shaub, who led the NFL in passing yards in 2009 after sitting for a long time behind Michael Vick in Atlanta.

I refer you to Henne. The Dolphins have continued to wait on him to blossom and he could very well be the starter in 2011 despite not playing exceedingly well in 2009 or 2010.

Teams wait for QBs.

The Dolphins chose not to wait on Beck. They cut him loose. And he might get his opportunity in Washington. So Miami's quaterback evaluation might again be on the line.

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I emeiled ALoco = Armando too. But just like you guys was well unaware I was emailing "the culprit". Hence, why absolutely zero became of it. Im sure ALoco = Armand was ROTFL his a*ss off when responding with his fruadulent reply! LOL....

DB,

Given that you uncovered this nafarious conspiracy perpetrated on the unsuspecting loyalist hardcore fans of Fins ball on this blogg I will honor your request and from know on reffer to Mr. Saguero as "ALoco" It shall be known as "The Breed Rule"

DB STILL A DRUNK WHO LOVES DRERCIK LOCKE .

Yeah DB.....he must have had a good laugh about it......

CHEF BREED,WHAT KINDA FIREWETER DID THE WHITE MASN GIVE YUO?

YOU NOTICE ONLY TWO DONKEYS WHO FOLLOW DB AS PUPPYS .FI4LIFE AND THE OTHER GUY WHO SAID SORRY TO ME ABOUT 100 TIMES ON THE PAST .

ABY GREEN WITH CHIPOTLE AIOLI
GNOCCHI WITH BASIL TOMATO
SALMON W/SAFFARON BUTTER
BREAD BUDDING....MY DINNER ........


LATER CHEF BREED AND HIS PUPPYS .

Fin4Life....at least getting your take on those days back in March let me know I wasn't going crazy......sometimes when you constantly have issues on here you have to take a look at yourself....a look in the mirror if you will......

glad to know I wasn't the cause.....never really thought I was....but sometimes when you write/argue.....your words can be misconstrued by other posters......sometimes out of my inability to express myself clearly....sometimes out of their willful malice or ignorance.....

BABY GREENS

fin4life, kris,

Gotta checkout and go take care of some bees-wack. You guys have a great day. You too ALoco = Armando. LOL...

DB/Kris,

All joking aside I am seriously buying into the fact that it is Mando jacking up his blogg hits. If that is the case then yeah he probably did have a laugh at our expense given that from what I`ve read those that did e-mail him including me put thought into what they sent, he must have had quite the laugh at our expense.

Kris,

Your ability to convey expression is right on buddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

john beck, hilarious. this guy is horrible. u know we are in a strike when we talk about garbage like beck

Fin4Life/DB.....

When I was a newbie on this site BobbyD12 and myself used to go at it pretty good.....

He told me HE was being impersonated by Aloco and how some how Armando tied into the whole thing.....all for the purpose of getting more blog hits.....

He told something like "learn how this blog works rookie"....or something sarcastic like that.....

At the time I didn't believe him and never gave it much thought....i mean who would do such a thing......

Even though i didn't believe him at the time....it always stayed with me.....(was Armando/Aloco playingh me)?

So I watched more carefully......and looks more and more like he was BobbyD12 was right.....

rip bobbyd

0x80...from yesterday @ 10:17 PM.....

That was hilarious....thanks for clearing that up for me....I was thoroughly confused as to the OFFICIAL time line.....

I'm glad you confirmed that Henne is still a rookie.....and the 4 years he has aged in the "real world" have zero effects on him in the football world.....and that he is only 32 games old in football years......

Aloco and the Menace are not Armando.

Armando "employs" an unemployed friend/cousin to help boost the blog hits.

He did this the first few months the blog came online. It worked so well he couldn't resist keeping it going.

Take it from someone that knows, be careful, if you press Armando on this too hard, you'll be banned!

-Deep Throat-

Armando

That wasn't me @ 7:20

I have an airtight alibi and witnesses to boot!

Wow!

If Aloco and the Menace are alter egos, I wonder what the Princess of Pineapples is?

A cross dressing Alter ego?

Hey what's up fellas?

I wouldn't be too worried about John Beck. He is at best an OK back up. And that is "at best". He is probably going to be the starter tho. I really can see Snyder and Shannahan being the type to say see what this kid has and if he don't have it, to go along with our joke of a defense then we get Andrew Luck or Landri Jones. It's a win, win for them.

Dolphins have a fine quarterback, His name is Chad Henne

ODIN,


YOU SMART GUY,PLEASE TELL CHED DB AND HIS PUPPYS THE TRUTH .

CHEF DB

DB IS A FRY LATER CHEF .HE COOKS MOZZARELLA STICKS AND A LOT OF CRABY RECIPES LIKE FRIED POTATO SKINS .

I hate when Armando writes these pieces. Who in the hell, as he stated, doesn't think having a good to great qb on the team is important? I haven't met that moron yet. Besides that the article comes off as if this is breaking news.

And further more while reading it you get the sense that Armando thinks it's very easy to find a great qb, because you know, every other team in the league has one(sarcasm).

The Dolphins know they need a QB mando, so do we. They have gone through,,,, how many in the past ten to 12 years, A GAZILLION? So it's pretty obvious to anyone with a pulse that they know this is a need. But that's not the problem. The real problem is that not one of the dozens of gms,coaches,or scouts that have worked for the Dolphins in that time have been able to find one. They are the problem, all of them. From Jimmy Johnson all the way down to Cam Cameron, super bowl rings or not, not one of them has found a quality QB.

The players know, the media knows, the fans know, the owner knows,,,,,we need a great QB. But it's becoming plainly clear that finding a great QB is a lot harder than just stating "the Dolphins need a QB that everyone can believe in". Write a story about that.

I GUES CHEF BREED IS ASLEPING,YOU GOT TO WAKE EARLY WHEN YUOR A FARMER.

Beck was not given his full shot in Miami but the decision by Miami to bring in Pennington and move him ahead of Beck and the others was definitely the correct one; regardless of what Beck becomes in the future, at that time and place, it was the right decision.
Henne, in my mind, will be a late bloomer but we will be talking about Henne this season and for many to come here in South Florida and it will be very positive talk and he will be a very popular Phin.

Since Marino, what QB have we given a chance?

Fiedler and Pennington.

Henne better make the most of this. Chances are few and far between here in Miami!

Henne has basically started for two seasons.

Since Marino retired, who else has done this?

Fiedler. Period!

Think about that.

Am I stoned or what?

Maybe it's the early onset of Alzheimer's?

If I'm remembering correctly, other than Fiedler and Henne, either due to injury or lack of performance, we haven't stuck with a QB for two seasons in a row.

Can that be right?

PS: I'd look it up myself, but I'm too stoned to spell GiiGle!

I too am a believer in the aloco/armando theory. This has been thrown around here way back as of 4 years ago. I believed back then that there was a connection with Armando and aloco/ or another poster name. Just because of the type of response from the character. Back then there was a poster named Gopats/aloco aka Armando. Whatever happened to GoPats???

Ace,

Don't type that name three times in a row.

That guy is worse than Beetle Juice!

Armando has a higher IQ.


...but ALoco cooks better!
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I don't miss Home.
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I'm confused.

Who was Big Mondo and who was Lil Mondo?

Dear Mr. Salguero,

Now that we all know you and Aloco are one and the same, I have a question.

Could you recommend a GOOD liquor that goes well with Cajun Style Black Bean Soup?

Just trying to maximize the Culinary Experience!


Yours Truly

Odin :)

(I wonder if copying someone is as bad as being an impostor?)..................

Imagine...

Its possible that there may have only ever been
about 7 people
on this whole blog...
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If that's actually true then you guys
REALLY need to get outdoors and breath some fresh air.
.
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Follow ALoco's House
(and pool)

on Twitter...
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I miss NJ PhinFan!
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night..night.
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YOU LEAVE KITCHEN NOW! I COOK RABBIT AND FISH!

Did this blog just die......

Armando/Aloco.....

Make a new blog up QUICK....

You know most on here only have the Attention span of of Blog.....maybe two at the most....if there posted on the same day.....

Within hours of each other....

kris,

I AM NOT ARMANDO,PLEASE DON'T CONNECT ME TO THAT GUY .

AND GET READY TO SAY YOU R SORRY FOR THAT STATEMENT .

DERRICK LOCKE ,ANY ONE ?

A squirrel is urinating on my back porch.

Reading through the last day of events. I don't see where the Aloco = Armando theory comes from. It sure looks like Aloco posted as Cuban Menace. Is there really is such a blogger or its just one of Aloco's many names? Who knows. Not sure I see Armando as the type to be on here impersonating others, sounds out of character.

There are a bunch of very suspect individuals here,including kris.

Belichest is condensing his playbook?

Yeah sure, I believe that one. This is just spin to send a message to the players that we're running out of time.

Belicheat has his starting offense in place. Other than a few tweaks he hasn't changed anything significantly in years.

The only condensing Belicheat will do, like all other coaches, is for his game plan come opening day.

The guy that had no qualms about spying on opponents sidelines won't mind if this condensation is "Leaked" to Brady.

While I'm sure Brady will pass this info on to teammates, unlike Henne, he wont notify the media-Duh!

Condensing the playbook my a s s!

oscarcanosa | May 19, 2011 at 11:24 AM

kris and dying breed are 2 people who abuse this blog big time and blame others .

odinseye never abused the blog,just in weekends he does and on mondays and thursdays and wednesdays .

Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean.

I use to abuse Heroin and blame my wife.

Wait, no.........I've never been married.

Maybe it was the hookers? No, no that wasn't it.

Oh yeah, now I remember.

I use to abuse Heroin and blame all the STRIPPERS!

FIST PUMP!!!!

ALL OF THEM ARE THE GANG OF DEFEAT ON THERE WELFAIR NO JOBS WHILE I PAY FOR IT ON THE TAXES. AND NOW DB ALSO GETS DRUNK AT NIGHT AND PUTS THAT MR ROSS SHOULD SPEND MONEY ON THE CRIPPEL PLAYERS THAT DONT HAVE HANDS.

Aloco,

Ease up man. I realize you're on the spot, but what did I do to you?

"WELFAIR?" Me? Never, not even on a temporary basis. I wouldn't accept handouts from an enemy Government I don't recognize as legitimate.

I use to steal from them and destroy their property every once in awhile. Like the time I broke the windows out of a State Police Car and stole the Shotgun, but that's an entirely different story.

No my friend, the ONLY "Welfair" I've EVER received came from Mom, Dad and the Strippers and the Hookers!

No Job!

Ha ha Ha! That's a joke. That's not funny, but it's a joke.

Thanks to this illegal Governments corrupt NAFTA and Foreign policy (ahem) "programs" WE THE PEOPLE are ALL starting to suffer.

Myself, I changed two ball joints and a tie rod this morning for a very fair and honest price.

Then I VOLUNTARILY helped and elderly "shut in" lady get on the UPTA transport to go to the hospital. I had to ride her hover round back up her ramp and into her house. Not only was it fulfilling, it was fun driving the hover round.

As soon as I'm done with dinner and helping my two boys with their homework, my "second shift" begins.

I'm under contract with a video production co. One of the investors is a Detroit City Music store owner. They brought up some killer equipment for me on loan. The stuff is so much newer and better than my own, I almost wore off all my fingertip calluses getting used to it.

So now I'm officially working the night shift as well. Drinking, occasional smoke for inspiration and recording musical score after musical score.

It's a tough JOB-ROTFLMAO-but you have to do what you have to do to make ends meet!

ValHalla!!!!

When JJ came in he said Shula's playbook was too thick and he would trim it. Shula replied that the playbook in question had won a lot of games. And...

There are still a lot of strange personajes postin in this Blog. Somebody named little chinese baby, its parents, tiny chickens, some Locos and his descendants, omando, little amondo, the Lady that pees all over the place, kris and others. What are we supposed to do with all these cyberposters?

Damn you Mando! Now I've heard about Detroit, Cutler and the Bears along with a long list of other teams running lockout practices. However, I've heard NOTHING about Chad Henne and the Miami Dolphins. NOTHING!!!

I've heard about Chad Henne showing his arse on Spring Break, Chad Henne coming into the practice facility in his convertible with the top down, but I've heard nothing about probably the most important piece of news to a Dolfan.

I've heard more on this site about players in the other conference than I have the goings-on with OUR team during the lockout.

So, it's either one of 2 things Mando: either you are carrying water for the team, someone told you to keep your mouth shut and not release any news about anything happening, or, you're completely and utterly incompetent or do not understand the information your readers crave on this site. My question, which is it?

And I can't believe you don't know that this is important to us because I've read maybe 10-12 posters asking for this exact information. So do you even read the comment section of your blog? Do you care about anything we care about? Would reporting on Henne setting up a practice be too damaging to your attempts to oust him as the starting QB? At this point, 3 months into the lockout, I'm not sure what to believe about you. Maybe I gotta check out if Omar is doing his job better than you. Let me do that right now.

Yesterday this curious sequence of posts took place:

CHEIF DYING BREED,WHO"S YOUR PLAYER OF THE DAY TODAY?,AND WHAT DID YOU HAVE FOR LUNCH TODAY?,PRUNES I BET.

Posted by: Cuban Menace | May 18, 2011 at 01:35 PM


Why is Aloco's post showing up under the Cuban Menaces sign in?

Posted by: odinseye | May 18, 2011 at 01:37 PM


WHAT KIND OF TRECHERY IDS GOING ON HERE?

Posted by: ALoco | May 18, 2011 at 01:51 PM


What kind of treachery indeed? If you click on the blue Cuban Menace sign in you see all of the Menaces past posts.

So it's a real link. Aloco should have just said that the Cuban was trying to impostor him. BUT, a little late for that now.

Anyway, I think the bigger issue is Armando.

There's ONLY two "Bloggers" that have been here as long as I have. ALoco and the Cuban Menace.

In all the years I've been blogging here I've only seen Armando defend two bloggers against impostor accusations. ONLY TWO!

ALoco and the Cuban Menace.............Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.............

Armando, I'd say you have some "esplainin" to do!

All these cyberimposters shall get what they deserve: a whole day of sharing with Tony Sparano.

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