First things first: Please check out my column from the pages of the Miami Herald this morning. It discusses how ugly the Dolphins looked as a football team at their first training camp practice Friday and why. It also tells you why there is good news on the way.
It also tells you that there still could be great news on the way. And the great news is that, contrary to many reports, the Dolphins have not completely closed the door on Kyle Orton.
Once you get done with that, head back here to the comments section because I will be live blogging the Dolphins 11 a.m. practice -- as I did yesterday.
See you in the comments section.
If we brought Edwards into the fold. We could make an "outter-worldly" trade of Hartline and get back a box of moon rocks in return!
Posted by: DyingBreed | July 30, 2011 at 11:38 AM
HENNE OVERTHREW MARSHALL AND MARSHALL LOOKED UPSET ......
THE DRAMA CON..........
Posted by: ALoco | July 30, 2011 at 11:38 AM
Really ha ha.
Posted by: Michael | July 30, 2011 at 11:39 AM
NO NOT REALLY........ALOCO AINT THERE HE IS AT HOME MILKING A SPRAINED ANKLE FROM LAST NIGHT SQUARE DANCE AT THE VFW
Posted by: jamesthefinfan | July 30, 2011 at 11:40 AM
HENNE............................ MARSHALL................ DRAMA ,EVEN IN PRACTICE .............
ARMANDO.........SAY SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN PRACTICE .
Posted by: ALoco | July 30, 2011 at 11:40 AM
Ortons numbers and play have him on the bubble of a top tier qb in this league. who is better? Manning, Brady, Rivers, Rodgers, Rothlesberger, Vick, Eli?, Cassel? Mcnabb(now)? Schaub, who am i missing? Thats about all i can think of. He's better or on par with everyone else that is even close to that list. That is a HUGE upgrade from anything we have had since Marino. Someone tell me different and talk me off the ledge please.
Posted by: James | July 30, 2011 at 11:41 AM
Folks, I continue to predict the Dolphins 2011 QB will be Kyle Orton.
Posted by: Armando Salguero | July 30, 2011 at 11:42 AM
ALoco does not live in Florida,unless he is tuning in with a special receiver.
Posted by: bobbyd12 | July 30, 2011 at 11:42 AM
DB, okay I got ya and don't get me wrong I'd be more than happy if your "watch" became a warning
Posted by: Tee | July 30, 2011 at 11:42 AM
JAMES,
IF WE GIVE HENNE PROTECTION....WEAPONS......NEW SYSTEM WITHOUT THE CONSTRAINTS OF A CRAPPY OC.......THIS GUY WILL PRODUCE...WITH OUR DEFENSE ALL WE NEED IS 21 POINTS A GAME......WE ARE GONNA BE OK...WE DONT NEED ORTON...WE NEED TO SHOW HENNE SOME SUPPORT
Posted by: jamesthefinfan | July 30, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Michael, I dont recollect ever saying he was anything but average.
Posted by: Tee | July 30, 2011 at 11:43 AM
HENNE IS HAVING BAD DAY,UNDER THROWING TO RECEIVERS ......
Posted by: ALoco | July 30, 2011 at 11:43 AM
Armando,you are really going out on a limb. Only you are reporting this, either you really have good info or everyone in Denver Post is clueless.
Posted by: bobbyd12 | July 30, 2011 at 11:44 AM
your missing matt ryan, brees, i have a couple more
Posted by: Poizen | July 30, 2011 at 11:44 AM
Aloco, if your not there, please cut it out, most of us are here, because we cant be and what real info
Posted by: Poizen | July 30, 2011 at 11:45 AM
Armando Salguero dont you think with Henne well protected with Thomas and Bush in the backfield given offensive weapons he will excell especially with a new OC
Posted by: LoboNoches | July 30, 2011 at 11:45 AM
Dishpan
I saw that episode last night on the NFL network last night, and Irvin looked like he was on "crack" again.
Posted by: Ace from Texas | July 30, 2011 at 11:46 AM
JOSH FREEMAN,SAM BRADFORD
Posted by: jamesthefinfan | July 30, 2011 at 11:46 AM
I know bobby. I know.
Posted by: Armando Salguero | July 30, 2011 at 11:46 AM
Mando, is anything that Aloco posting true?
Posted by: Poizen | July 30, 2011 at 11:46 AM
armando,
how do we look as far as team speed goes......are we full speed or just jogging
Posted by: jamesthefinfan | July 30, 2011 at 11:47 AM
mando, tell us more about the practice.
Posted by: greg z. | July 30, 2011 at 11:47 AM
YES IT'S TRUE...HENNE IS HAVING A BAD DAY ...HE OVER THREW MARASHALL AND OTHERS /
Posted by: ALoco | July 30, 2011 at 11:47 AM
relax folks,this is a poker game.
a stare down. and both teams have a good idea what cards they are holding.
but here is the kicker.
do you really think Ireland bets his career on Henne?
No chance, a deal gets done, he is just holding out for a good deal. Its 4 days into free agency, there is no rush. If he signed a new deeal (very likely) he wouldnt even be able to practice to the 4th anyway.
Orton will be a Fin, the sky is not falling.
Feeding the media bs is part of the poker game, its called bluffing.
Posted by: donpaizon | July 30, 2011 at 11:48 AM
the answer is yes lobo
Posted by: jamesthefinfan | July 30, 2011 at 11:48 AM
I hope your right Armando - I want to see Orton in Aqua and Coral (orange) this year.
Posted by: NHDolphan | July 30, 2011 at 11:48 AM
Highlight of practice so far is Brandon Field's 60yd punt!
Posted by: DyingBreed | July 30, 2011 at 11:48 AM
can you give us more play by play? what the hell is going on out there?
Posted by: Eric | July 30, 2011 at 11:48 AM
it would be easy to open talks with denver but the $ for orton would have to make sense for orton to accept. we overpaid for bush;i'd rather overpay orton because you cant win without him.
Posted by: greg z. | July 30, 2011 at 11:49 AM
I agree jamesthefinfan I think this is going to be a killer squad and if by some grace of the Football Gods we get Miller,Edwards and Huff or any combination of the 3 then it is on baby
Posted by: LoboNoches | July 30, 2011 at 11:50 AM
DB..... I HEARD THE BIG CHEER FOR BRANDON PUNT .
Posted by: ALoco | July 30, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Mark it 8 dude, Kyle Orton will be the starter in 2011...for the BRONCOS.
Posted by: Tee | July 30, 2011 at 11:50 AM
loco, if your getting your info from HOME, the VY fan club leader, he will say anything bad about Henne, even if not true.
Posted by: Poizen | July 30, 2011 at 11:50 AM
Neither Josh Freeman nor Sam Bradford are better QB's TODAY. Take a look at the stats.
Posted by: Michael | July 30, 2011 at 11:51 AM
I rather say srew Orton and use that money on getting Edwards,Huff and Miller
Posted by: LoboNoches | July 30, 2011 at 11:51 AM
Db, you there also?
Posted by: Poizen | July 30, 2011 at 11:51 AM
SOME REAL PRACTICE COVERAGE FOR YOU GUYS:
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P Brandon Fields receives one of the largest cheers of camp after he launches a 60-yd punt. #Dolphins fever. Catch it.
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WR Phillip Livas wins the 2011 "Ryan Grice-Mullen" Award for best Davone Bess look-a-like. #Dolphins
13 minutes ago »
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To be fair, Henne then hit Livas on a post. Nice extension by the rookie on the catch. #Dolphins
19 minutes ago »
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Henne overthrew Marshall on 15-yd comeback route, Marshall signaled "his fault". Henne then overthrew Marshall on post route. #Dolphins
21 minutes ago »
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QB Moore, LB Trusnick, RB Sheets, OT Garner, OT Murtha, RB Bush all non-injured signees not practicing today. #Dolphins
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It really is insane watching all of these perfectly healthy players unable to practice due to the CBA. Weak. #Dolphins
35 minutes ago »
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Matt Moore appears to be here, as is Kory Sheets. Neither can practice. #Dolphins
37 minutes ago »
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Just saw TD using a urinal in the men's bathroom at the #Dolphins training facility. That answers that question.
49 minutes ago »
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Sparano literally said that yesterday. RT @BenReiss1: @KLV760 @FootballShore Hartline CONSISTENTLY got open deep. Henne missed him.
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He's the only one who fits their speed, size mold. RT @FootballShore: @KLV760 why is Hartline considered our deep threat. thats so sad.
59 minutes ago »
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He was a free agent. RT @Wrestler561: @KLV760 do you know what we got for thigpen?
1 hour ago »
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Same could be said for when he spoke. RT @Blake_Jorgensen: @KLV760 Even Crowder's autograph was very unique! I don't think it's in English
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#Dolphins make Moore, Trusnick, McDaniel, Gates, Thomas signings official. Announce release of Crowder.
13 hours ago »
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RT @BenVolinPBP: #Dolphins 4th round WR Edmond "Clyde" Gates has signed his 4-year rookie contract and will be on the field tomorrow
13 hours ago »
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Gearing up for coffee and a podcast w @BenVolinPBP tomorrow morning by doing a brief Fat Tuesday's run.
13 hours ago »
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Crowder always wanted to come off as a crude cowboy type, but the guy is totally brilliant. Real sharp mind. #Dolphins
16 hours ago »
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Farewell to Channing Crowder, who was without a doubt the most unique athlete I've ever covered. #Dolphins
16 hours ago »
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Jurgen Klinsmann For. The. Win. Not sure I'll be able to watch #USA Soccer anymore. A competent offensive plan may make me too emotional.
20 hours ago »
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#Broncos wanted 2nd rd pick, #Dolphins not patient. RT @pedroheizer: @KLV760 Why did the Orton deal die?
21 hours ago »
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RT @JeffDarlington: Sources: The Dolphins have come to a contract agreement with RB Daniel Thomas, the team's second-round draft pick.
21 hours ago »
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Sparano says Brandon Marshall's focus is "100% outstanding". Marshall in exceptional shape according to coach. #Dolphins
21 hours ago »
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Sparano says he's going to "take it really slow" in handling of Jake Long and his shoulder. #Dolphins
21 hours ago »
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Sparano wants to see clear progress, leadership from Henne. Also has to improve deep ball connection w Hartline. #Dolphins
21 hours ago »
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Sparano says "they'll watch" Bush on special teams in camp, determine usage then. A lot will depend on Bush workload. #Dolphins
21 hours ago »
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Sparano has a "strong belief" Bush can be a feature back but needs a caddy (Daniel Thomas). #Dolphins
21 hours ago »
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Sparano says offseason was a lot of "hurry up and wait", calls it a "track meet" now. #Dolphins
21 hours ago »
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Sparano won't comment on Matt Moore today. #Dolphins
21 hours ago »
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Henne: "We have all the athleticism we need on offense." #Dolphins
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Henne says it doesn't matter who's winning a position competition, this whole thing is about getting #Dolphins wins.
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Henne says he's told teammates his door is always open to talk the offense during camp. #Dolphins
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Henne says he feels like most of the formations were lined up correctly, purpose of offseason practices was "familiarity". #Dolphins
22 hours ago »
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Henne says he feels "pretty comfortable" w Daboll offense. Admits he not at 100% yet. #Dolphins
22 hours ago »
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RB Nic Grigsby a bit shaken up, being attended to on the sidelines. Up and walking. Slight limp. #Dolphins
23 hours ago »
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Mike Dee said he thought Ireland would make bold moves because Parcells is no longer w #Dolphins. Moore feels...Parcellsian...
23 hours ago
Posted by: DyingBreed | July 30, 2011 at 11:51 AM
why do i get the feeling that the Fins already made the deal for Orton, but can't announce it until Aug. 4th? why? the deal perhaps includes Henne going to Denver, and the Fins would be without a veteran QB running practices for that long because Orton won't be allowed to participate in team practices until Aug. 4th. Think about it, we have no legit QB in camp...
Posted by: dfins006 | July 30, 2011 at 11:51 AM
Hold on, if these practices are open to the public, than there should be someone with a camera so that we all can view this practice through live streaming.
Posted by: Ace from Texas | July 30, 2011 at 11:51 AM
James, that is AWESOME! I'd love it of we started stockpiling weapons. Love it.
Posted by: dishpan | July 30, 2011 at 11:52 AM
POIZEN.... I AM THE BIGGEST HENNE FAN BUT IT'S ALL TRUE ...MARSHALL WAS LITTLE UPSET WHEN HE OVER THREW HIM BUT WHY ARMANDO ISN'T SAYING A WORD ABOUT ANYTHING........
WHAT KIND OF LIVE CRAP IS THIS ?
Posted by: ALoco | July 30, 2011 at 11:52 AM
As sad as it is, Henne has shown what he is. He is not a NFL starting QB never will be. This said, no way the Dolphins starting QB is in camp right now, probably not gonna be Orton, but they will sign another QB to the roster. IMO Bulger, Kitna, Delhomme, or Anderson are on their way.
Posted by: VA FIn Fan | July 30, 2011 at 11:53 AM
Sorry for the infrequent updates fellas. I'm chasing the Braylon Edwards possibility.
Trying to either confirm or kill the rumor. Right now it looks to be bogus.
Posted by: Armando Salguero | July 30, 2011 at 11:54 AM
Ace, it was so strange. Rich Eisen was visibly perturbed. Sapp sounded like a scholar by comparison.
Posted by: dishpan | July 30, 2011 at 11:54 AM
C'mon Mando! Too good to be true, huh?
Posted by: dishpan | July 30, 2011 at 11:56 AM
I hope Orton does not hear a woo from the Dolphins. We have a good squad of quarterbacks now with Devlin and Moore coming on board, and Brandstater having never been tested here. I think Henne will be the guy though with a new offensive coordinator, but if not then maybe we can get some LUCK in next years draft.
Posted by: Rick | July 30, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Thumbs down on Braylon Edwards...No thanks!
Posted by: Tee | July 30, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Jul 30 The Jets do no plan to bring Edwards back, Manish Mehta of the Daily News reports.
Recommendation: The report states that at this point there is simply not enough money to get a deal with Edwards done, though we suppose that could change with the Jets needing to add wideout depth somehow. For now, Miami and Minnesota are among the teams thought to be interested in adding Edwards, one of the more high-profile free agents who is still available . " Rotowire"
Posted by: LoboNoches | July 30, 2011 at 11:56 AM
I just went to a bunch of Jets blogs and I cant find the Braylon Edwards story anywhere, except the NY Daily News which says the Jets have enough cap money to re sign him
Posted by: bobbyd12 | July 30, 2011 at 11:57 AM
I guess I could spend my time recounting the Brandstater handoffs to Nic Grigsby or I can try to do some reporting.
Posted by: Armando Salguero | July 30, 2011 at 11:58 AM
LoboNoces, LOL two writers from the same paper with totally different views on Edwards. Without Nmamandi though, the Jets certainly now have enough cap space
Posted by: bobbyd12 | July 30, 2011 at 11:59 AM
VA fln fan. SOOOO 2 years as a starter on a poorly equipped team.
Last years team all around was a joke disaster, o-line was miserable, Hennign and game plan was worse.
and we have seen all Henne hs to offer?
how does that add up?
Posted by: Poizen | July 30, 2011 at 11:59 AM
Armando,
Your stance on orton is one that makes perfect sense. You see what I see in that there is NO WAY that Sporano & Ireland will rest this season/career on the shoulders of chad henne again. The Dolphins will evenutally fold and give both Denver and Orton what they want.
They're just that desperate... Or at least they should be
Posted by: CaymanFinfan | July 30, 2011 at 12:00 PM
Nice and sarastic, I like it Armando! Slap 'em around a little bit
Posted by: Tee | July 30, 2011 at 12:00 PM
No thanks on Edwards. How is Gates doing ?
Posted by: Best there is, Was, And ever will be. | July 30, 2011 at 12:00 PM
Why waste money on Orton when we can spend to bring in Miller and Huff instead ?
Posted by: LoboNoches | July 30, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Cayman, we agree.
Posted by: Armando Salguero | July 30, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Orton is our best chance to win. The dolphins have been in perpetual rebuild mode now for the better part of a decade. The idea that we should hold out to either try and draft or miraculously snag a frachise qb in free agency will ensure we're in rebuild mode for another decade.
We have some pieces in place and should go with the best option we can acquire for the most important position on the field, which is Orton. Make it happen Ireland.
Posted by: Jason | July 30, 2011 at 12:02 PM
The Kevin Burnett contract is 4 years, $21million. $9.8 million guaranteed.
Posted by: Armando Salguero | July 30, 2011 at 12:02 PM
who cares if we get Braylon Edwards or the second coming of jerry rice, when you have the malfunctioning robo-Henne out there throwing passes its doesn't matte.
GO get Orton.
Posted by: LP | July 30, 2011 at 12:03 PM