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Sunday morning reads and live practice blog here

Allow me to begin this morning by serving you up some reading material as we await the 11 a.m. start to open practice and a live blog of that event:

First, I want to share with you the fact Dolfans are staying away from camp the first two days as I've never seen before in all my years covering the team.

At a time when interest in football is spiking -- NFL Network reports a 288 percent veiwership increase and this blog's page view and unique visitor numbers seem to be on a steroid and HGH cocktail -- local Dolfans are seemingly either disinterested or wary about checking out their team despite the fact the practices are free.

We'll see what the attendance is today and tomorrow night.

Secondly, here are words from the mouth of players or coaches:

Tony Sparano on what he saw in Daniel Thomas his first practice with the Dolphins:  “The biggest thing is the amount of times the guy carried the ball in college and the level of production.  I mean this guy was a big producer in college and really carried it a bunch of times.  I think for a big guy this guy has really soft hands.  He catches the ball well.  In college you didn’t really see Daniel block a whole lot, wasn’t really what he was asked to.  That’s something that we got to get to the bottom of here a little bit fast.  But you did see flashes of physicalness there in the blocking and the things.  But this guys a physical, get your shoulders square runner and I think that’s what we seen.  He has, it’s funny, they talk about home run speed and top gun speed but this guys finished some runs.  So he’s got pretty good speed.  I was excited today, just on a couple of, from early carries to see some of the bounce that he had in his legs for a big man.”

Thomas on whether knowing his assignments is his greatest obstacle in practice so far:  “Not really, the coaches do a really good job of going over our assignments, like I said the toughest thing is just going out here in the heat , and the heat just messes you all up.”

I am not a conspiracy theorist. If someone tells me something, I do my best to tell you, assuming it doesn't break trust with my source. As you know, I've been told that, as of yesterday, the Dolphins were still not giving up on the idea of Kyle Orton. (Or at least adding a legit QB to compete with Chad Henne.)

Other media have reported the team is giving that role to Matt Moore, which if you really think about it, is simply moronic.

Well, Moore was asked if he has been told he was in town to compete for the starting job with Henne:

“You know what … I am going to come in and compete. That’s how it’s going to be. That’s how it is everywhere. As of right now like I said, I am learning. I am going to come in and make all of the throws and make all of the right reads and we will see what happens."

Obviously, Moore has not been told he'll be competing for a starting job. Yet, I have faith the Dolphins will do their best to find that player to do exactly that. Maybe they try Mark Bulger. Maybe they beg the Bengals to trade Carson Palmer one more time. Maybe they cave to Bulger's salary demands.

Point is the quarterback issue is absolutely not resolved.

Talk to you in the comments section for the start of practice.

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Our play book is 50% Jets, 50%C Pats. Can Henne make those type of throws is the question?

Summers78, post at 4:35. Maybe the only guy here who watched the same games I did last year. Check him out for a dose of... Rational thinking.

With the signing of another d lineman, should we be wondering if they are about to trade starks or merling for a certain QB?????

That's a great question

What do guys think about Malcolm Floyd chances of coming here..

Brandon going on way too long about his problem. Should have made it short and sweet. Now its a soap opera just for him to get attention.

Feel the power, brandon!!!

The 3rd practice of the year, new offense, no OTA's. What did you expect the offense to look like Mando? Quit crying

bmars new song

"dont push me...

cuz im close to the... edgeee!

i'm tryin' not to lose my... headd!!

ahu huh hu huh!"

lets just hope he takes it out on the other team

WOW..Devlin, huh?

orton get him now

Armando states, Yet, I have faith the Dolphins will do their best to find that player to do exactly that.

You have faith in the dolphins, really...mmmmm, after Parcells hands the keys to Sparano last couple years, they win 7 games and then pick up Matt Moore for2.5 million per year for two years, ae you kidding and you have faith. We need more than faith, we need a miracle.

Why another DL? I thought donkeys wanted our DL..

Same thing every year.Dolphins sit and watch every other team upgrade with big FA, while we grab the left overs. And the FO always says that they are building for the future and not for 1 year. When is future they keep talking about going to finally become the present?

Well, BPD, is emotionally compelling, interesting, sad, confusing. But he's lucky; with therapy, it has a good prognosis.

matt moore will be cut before season starts once they add orton

Something really fishy about the DL pickup from Denver.

Pat Devlin, out of nowhere...the next Tom Brady?

The soap opera continues...

Dennis Dixon wants out of Pittsburgh - he's seeking a trade. Get him - it's an improvement from Roboton Henne and Mediocre Matt Moore.

Vince young will be the next Jamarcus Russel. Andrew Luck the next Tom Brady. Pat Devlin VERY impressive today. This guy really brought it today.

Is it any wonder fans are staying away? Who wants to see a run-first offense in a regular game let along practice, lol? People want TD's, high-flying WRs, QBs wingin' it. They don't want to see 3 straight runs.

What's being proven is that this FO has taken the team as far as they could go. They've been a good bridge back from 1-15, but now it's time to pass the torch to someone who knows how to finish the deal.

I have no faith in our FO still..the most important position is not resolved..all other signings are a smoke screen to the fans...hey Ross and crew...get a darn QB in here to compete....really... Moore?

Hope Armando moves on with his current Marshall BPD obsession. According to God we "ALL" have some degree of mental disorder.

IT's Called: SIN!

Now we have so-called "man god" therapist who have a place a label and diagnosis or non-diagnosis on every single dysfunction none to man. We errantly think we're going to scientifically diagnose, therapy, and cure our way to becoming a perfect utopian society.

It aint gonna happen. Those doing the diagnosing maybe sicker than ones they diagnose. Except in other areas. Get off of the Marshall BPD, we "ALL" have shortcomings as human beings.

One of our greatest shortcoming is to focus on shorcomins others to feel better about shortcomings of our own. Can we get off of Marshall's diagnosed BPD as if he's an "alien" in our perfect society.

Henne will start. Bush will dramatically help the team in the redzone, which will turn 3pts into 7pts most of the time. A solid #2 ILB will free up Dansby to make plays. If the corners step up with AT LEAST 8 picks between them (Davis and Smith), were looking at 3 to 4 more wins this year, which equals out to 11 or 12. I say that because I stand behind the record of 8-8 and count the Pittsburgh game as a W for the Fins.

What I don't understand is how people say Henne is horrible but Sanchez is so great (at least according to ESPN and other "experts). Yet, Henne ranks higher in every category than Sanchez (considerably higher in completion percentage!).

Jests made AFC Championship despite Sanchez, not because of him.

I guess people see what they want to see...

They keep Moore, release Henne. Henne just doesn't have it. Strong arm kid with no feel for the game.

Craig M,
You suck dude thats all there is to it. Go take a ride on your ferry boat and never come back.

LOSER.

Please stop Mando. You cannot wish Kyle Orton or Marc Bulger or any other retread onto the roster by harping on it day and night. Ireland is doing it right. Change for the better is great - but change for the sake of change is moronic (ask Obama). Please push for Checkdown Chad to abandon his timidity. But push for Chad - he is our starter. Mabye support and confidence can supplant cynicism and ill-advised desperation for the greater good. Unless your newfound popularity puts controversy ahead of progress? If that's your M.O. then stop pretending you're one of us.

cowkilla,

Welcome back fin brother. My only hope left is that Devlin continues to step it up practice after practice. Then becomes the greatest miss my 31 nfl teams since Tom Brady.

Here's to hopes we've found that $50 million dollar diamond hidden in the weeds!

NC Fin Fan,

Difference between Henne and Sanchez, though both have similar stats. Sanchez seems to have the ability to make a play when he needs it most. When its needed most Henne's a shrinking violet.

Also, Sanchez was focused not to be the reason the Jets would not be able to play in 2 consecutive afc championship games. That's "HUGE" in considering what seperates Sanchez from Henne. Im sure experts would agree.

Until Henne at least gets us to a playoff game the Sanchez-Henne comparison are unfair to Sanchez. Love it or not fellow dolfans, this is a fact!

Dyingbreed,

Pat Devlin continues to play like this then he will make this team. To the surprise of everyone. And then what ?

Sanchez also doesnt miss wide open wr's for sure td's like Henne does. If its more of the same with Henne in 2011, this farnchise needs to move on from him totally.

Let's not waste anymore money or valuable draft picks on stop gaps and hopeful washups. Let's irde out this year with what we got, let's see if Henne can produce, or Moore, or Devlin, and if not we draft a QB in the 1st round next year. We are building a good team and have a good team, we're solid at almost all positions now, we need to keep building, I can wait another year, I've waited this long. 10-6 in 2011

Greg,

If Devlins continues to show he's clearly the "best qb" in this camp. Then he desrves to start. Our at the very least we better hurry and sign Orton because a rookie will be our starting qb on opening day. Deservedly so!

As a True Diehard Fan, I was hoping and praying to see a new, improved Henne this year. But it doesn't sound like it. Pat Devlin-what a shocker that would be! Would that make Ireland a genius?

If Henne loses the starting job to "rookie" Devlin. Then Henne should be traded for whatever we can get, even if it's a 7th rd'er. If not cut him straight up!

Sweet Jesus. There's actually people making roster decisions based on a couple of sentences about a July practice?

Please get help. Seriously.

They signed this guy Fields from Denver where he started all 16 games in 2009, when the Dcoordinator was none other than the great Mike Nolan. None of the DE status with the team is in jeopardy, due to the fact he is a pure 3-4 NT. He is insurance for big Pauly. It is smart not to trust a 7th round pick to man the most important position on D if Soliai goes down, and after last year, i'm sure the staff would rather have Randy Starks focus on his RE position, you know, the position he dominated in '09. The teams strength just got stronger. I don't see another team with talent anywhere near ours. Best D-line in the league. Although I still don't see Merling making it out of camp. If the team can get a low pick for him they will, or else he should be cut. Not enough room for an underachiever.

NFL exec of the year - Jeff Ireland - WOW!!

orton-henne-devlin theres ur qbs for this year

DyingBreed,

I agree, Devlin was 10th highest rated QB out of draft, and he has presence in the pocket, we need to think young and have patience, Bush and Thomas will help any young QB and force defenses to show respect.

Sed

finsfan72,

It would make Ireland about as much of a genious as Bill Belichik. Belichick isnt truly genious, if he were Brady wouldnt have lasted until the 6th rd.

Had Belichik not drafted Brady 6th rd, he possibly could have been a udfa too, just like Devlin. From what Im hearing about Devlin, this kid seems to have a "BRADY_LIKE" chip on his shoulders.

THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US IF HE TRULY DOES!!!

DB-
Just kidding about the genius thing. I really believe Bellacheat is more lucky than genius. If he hadn't lucked out on Brady, where would they be? Struggling like us.

Donny,

I realize Frank Kearse was a 7th rd pick. But also consider that Kearse played "TRUE NT" in college. He doesnt have to be transitioned and learn the NT position.

He only has to get used to the speed of the game in the nfl and Soliai can verse him on a few tricks of the trade nfl NT's must know. This guy doesnt have to learn the position, he only has to learn it on the nfl level in the schemme of things.

He isnt totally "green to playing NT. He played "true NT" throughout his entire college career.

calm down about devlin, yeah its great that he's shining in practice on one day, and yeah that means he coudl be our saviour one day

long way to go, at least he should go on the roster and not practice squad

no way should he start before henne unless henne truly sucks all training c

remember if we're not at training camp we only get to hear the spin reporters put on it

training camp is not live nfl

(i'm not against starting a rookie per se, but the longer he sits in year 1 the better as long as we're getting results)

Wouldn't it be cool if Devlin turns out to be a good player, even a decent backup would be a win for a UFA.

Whoever's in charge I always like to see the Fins do well.

Can't see them starting a rookie QB. If Orton does come on board, no way I see Henne remain.

Devlin does seem to be playing like a qb with a HUGE chip on his shoulders. Very pissed he was passed over by everyone in the nfl draft.

Hopefully we can count our lucky stars he choose to come here.

db ff72

repost for you

IMO

the pats - an organisation i and many others respect and teams aspire to emulate

bb regarded as one of the finest hc's of all , his coaches and attitude held in high esteem

tom brady always voted top 5 qb at the very least

why?

sustained success,

also the pats ability to turn has beens into their former selves

will this last forever

NO!

The pats r not improving -they r not winning sb's they're struggling in the postseason

so-

whilst there is every likelihood that those 2 naughty children he has taken under his wing will behave like angels it is just POSSIBLE that the magic will start to run out

he's taking bigger risks than usual , bordering on reaching because of their postseason failures

talk is cheap, this time of the year its easy

BUT

if we and other teams can get to the qb and imp the d just a little,IMO this is the season that the pats do not go 14-2 but only 10-6 and begin their return to the chamber of mediocraty

so sayeth the wolf

Ireland has done an exceptional job thus far. Moore is competition for Henne and that's what was promised. Jeff and Tony are sticking to their guns, they will win or lose, sink or swim, live and die with my man HENNE! That's balls, and I believe they will look like geniuses in the end. Aside from Carey, Bell, and big Pauly, these guys are their guys, and this year it's win or hit the road. Truth is, like our crazy as owner said, there was no one on the market who was an obvious upgrade over Henne. Ireland played it smart. Hope is not a method.

Nobody's ready to annoint him the starter yet. Just glad to have something positive to talk about-especially at QB!

If Devlin continues to play well. I see plenty of late 3rd and 4th qtr preseason action for him.

If he shines against opponents 3rd and 4th stringers, I expect him to get bumped up to taking 2nd team snaps in preseason games against the opponents 2nd team defense.

If he continues to shine against opponents 2nd team defense he will get a chance to see what he can do against opponents 1st team defense. If Devlin passes all of these tests, in the very least he begins the season as 2nd string qb and Henne could have a very short leash.

WOLF, Im not trying to be "overenthusiastic" about Devlin. Im just trying to have hope this kid will continue moving up our food chain.

Pat Devlin Scouting Report
6'4, 227 pounds | Quarterback | Delaware

Accuracy: Devlin does a good job delivering a catchable football. In the short passing game, he gets the ball out in front of his target which allows them to pick up extra yardage after the catch. The Delaware offense featured a game plan that provided the opportunity for Devlin to become comfortable with the underneath passing game. In the intermediate passing attack, Devlin struggled with ball placement as several balls sailed out of bounds. He was able to connect on a few out and hitch patterns but was mainly inconsistent. Devlin didn't appear comfortable pushing the ball down the field. The majority of his throws were underneath and I only witnessed a few balls thrown deep which were routinely under-thrown. Devlin is a decent athlete that regularly sets his feet and body towards his target while on the move. His on the move technique allows him to deliver an accurate football

Arm strength: The football comes cleanly out of Devlin's hand with adequate zip. He gets the ball quickly to his targets running skinny posts and bubble screens. However, he struggles to generate enough zip on the ball when asked to work the intermediate passing game. On sideline patterns the ball doesn't arrive on a line and often floats over the targets head. As I mentioned, Devlin didn't take enough shots down the field for me to feel comfortable about his long arm strength. At best, Devlin has an average arm with concerns about his ability consistently complete sideline throws.



Decision making: The best way to describe Devlin's decision making is that he protects the football. He rarely forces the ball into coverage and knows when to check it down. However, this isn't necessarily a positive because he has a tendency to check it down to often. Devlin could quickly be slapped with the game manager tag which typically results in short stints as an NFL starter. I know there have been several successful "game managers" but those quarterbacks are normally replaced my someone with higher upside.

Field vision: Prior to the snap, Devlin is able to recognize potential blitzers and quickly identifies his hot reads. He shows the ability to quickly diagnosis post snap information while going across the field with his progressions. He is patient and comfortable when asked to find his secondary targets. He also possesses good quarterback savvy which allows him to manipulate the defense. I have mentioned it earlier but the lack of down the field throws made it difficult to fully evaluate his field vision. But I feel comfortable stating that he is capable of consistently making sound decisions with the football.

Mechanics: The offensive system at Delaware rarely asked Devlin to take a snap from under-center. He is going to need time to learn how to take a snap and remain balanced while scanning the field. However, the film shows that Devlin is a fluid athlete which will help with this transition. While in the pocket, Devlin avoids wasted motions when delivering the football. He holds the ball above his breast plate and close to his body. Devlin has good hip fluidity which allows him to quickly set and reset his feet towards his target. He has a short and quick release that permits him to get the ball out of his hand quickly. Aside from the adjustment to taking snaps under-center, Devlin has sound and consistent technique.

Pocket awareness: Devlin doesn't allow pressure to rattle him into making mistakes. When faced with pressure, he keeps his eyes down the field searching for an open target. He possesses good awareness and feel for the rush and is able to step up into the pocket to avoid the sack. While Devlin isn't going to outrun the defensive angles he has enough athletic ability to hurt a defense with this feet.

Games Viewed: Georgia Southern, East Washington, East/West Shrine Game

Final word: Devlin possesses some good skills but the fact that he didn't dominate in division II brings some concerns. He also struggled at the East/West shrine game which has negatively impacted his draft stock. The biggest concern is his arm strength and whether or not he will be able to make the necessary throws in the NFL. I didn't see anything that makes me believe that he can make those throws. However, he has some potential as a game manager type quarterback. Look for Devlin to be in the 4th or 5th round discussion.

best dlin in league,lol lose the bias man

Wolf,

In reply to your 3.00PM post:

Correct, even as Shula got longer in the tooth as far as coaching genre is concerned. His teams also began to struggle more in the post seasons.

His teams stayed consistently very good. But towrds the end it was never good enough to win championships. As you basically stated, Belichik could be now following the very same pattern eventually leading to Shula's demise.

we can only hope

DyingBreed,

I do agree that Henne blew it a few times for us late in games and Sanchez got lucky on a few late throws, but Sanchez is known for overthrowing wide open receivers as well. He did it several times throughout the year. My whole point was that everyone seems to anoint him as being so 'great', when in reality he is as bad, if not worse than Henne. A bias in reporting.

Good info Simon-
Mando also said he looked sharp in practice. Kid could turn out to be somebody. Brady didn't take the NFL by storm his first year. He developed.

Simone Says,

Thanks for the info but this kid played today like it was his job to lose today. Clearly the better of the three. Today was Pat devlins day.

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