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The curious whirlwind that is the Dolphins O line

Four years. That is how long its taken the Dolphins to build their offensive line.

Four years. That is how long its taken to set what is supposed to be a foundation, a building block to the team.

And we're probably not truly, surely, securely set yet.

Tony Sparano and Jeff Ireland have got to be scratching their heads about this one. Building the offensive line has been a priority for the Dolphins since Ireland and Sparano were brought to Miami by Bill Parcells. Parcells believed you lay that foundation with burly, agile, strong, smart, angry linemen and the rest of the team will grow around them.

But this will be the fourth season of this current administration and the line today still comes with serious questions. Yes, still. Despite much free agent cash and draft pick resources and stirring of the roster, and searching for answers. The offensive line which should be an exclamation point remains something of a question mark.

Why?

I guess this one goes under the heading of best laid plans not going exactly as planned.

Oh, Jake Long has been excellent. He is a Pro Bowl player every time he steps on the field. He is a rock. But right now the Dolphins are hoping the rock has no cracks. Long will not play in Friday night's preseason opener against Atlanta. He is currently on the physically unable to perform list with what seeems to be a left leg injury. (The team does not have to specify injuries in the preseason and therefore doesn't). Long is rehabilitating that injury daily. But he obviously has not practiced this training camp.

Sparano told me last week the plan with Long is to have him ready for the regular-season opener versus New England. He might even be ready a bit before then, the coach said. That is good news. Even if Long doesn't get a full camp under his belt, even if he is freshly recovered from injury and not fully versed in camp hitting, he'll still be pretty good. Maybe he won't be Pro Bowl caliber until after the bye week, but he'll be good enough.

Jake Long is not the problem as long as he can eventually find his way back onto the field.

So what is the problem?

Let's begin on the other side of the line. The Dolphins have Marc Colombo as their starting right tackle and he isn't being challenged for his job at this point. One supposes Colombo, a former first-round pick of the Chicago Bears, is fully prepared to play well this season because he has Sparano's endorsement.

When a reporter asked the coach about Colombo's struggles in 2010 while with Dallas, Sparano would hear none of it. "I watched the tape," the coach said confidently.

We have a difference of opinion, obviously, because the Cowboys watched the same tape and terminated Colombo's contract.

The tape, according to several metrics websites including ProFootball Focus, show Colombo giving up between seven and nine sacks a season ago, depending on the source.

Maybe there are mitigating reasons for the many sacks. Maybe Colombo was playing hurt. Maybe the Cowboys are making a mistake in letting Colombo leave. But one cannot dismiss the idea that maybe the Dolphins are making a mistake in letting Colombo arrive.

We shall see. That's not the point. The point is this is not a exclamation point solution. There are questions here. We don't know what the answers will be and neither do the Dolphins. For now we have questions at right tackle.

The right guard position is similarly a question mark. The team moved Vernon Carey to right guard because, well, because John Jerry is not living up to expectations right now. If Jerry were a player, he'd be the starter. That's how it's supposed to work when a team uses a third-round pick (73rd overall) on a player they coached in the Senior Bowl.

Let that marinate for a second.

The Dolphins didn't just scout Jerry. They didn't just watch tape of Jerry. They didn't just look at his measurables and talk to him at the Combine. They coached the kid for a week at the Senior Bowl in January of 2010 and really, really liked him. They believed he'd be a player.

He's not a player right now. He's in a fight to make the team.

And he might lose.

And so the Dolphins had to find a Plan B to play right guard. That would be Vernon Carey. I reject the notion Carey was the first option because, as I've written before, GM Jeff Ireland said very specifically at the draft, the team had no intention then to move Carey to guard. I remember this because I asked the question.

But something happened between that answer and training camp's fourth day because the Dolphins felt compelled to move Carey over to cover the void left by Jerry's inability to play well. So now Carey returns to the guard spot where he began his college career -- Carey played guard at the University of Miami.

Moving Carey to guard meant the Dolphins had to basically admit signing him to that six-year, $42 million contract after 2008 was not a terribly sound move. That contract at the time made Carey one of the highest paid right tackles in the NFL. And yes, Carey started at the spot the past two years while under that contract.

But Carey didn't always play up to the wage scale. Last year, offensive coordinator Dan Henning said Carey has the potential to be very good, and some days he is. And some days he's not very good at all. It was a revealing description of an inconsistent player rather than of one making elite player money.

The Dolphins have adjusted Carey's salary. The definition of adjust here means "cut."

So now Carey is cheaper and the Dolphins hope he plays at least to the level of his newly adjusted pay. Will he? I don't know. The Dolphins don't really know. They hope he will. They don't really know. It's a question mark.

Another one.

The Dolphins used their first round selection this season on an offensive lineman -- center Mike Pouncey. I must say, he looks the part. He's a beast. He seems smart so I expect he'll pick up the mental requirements of his position -- which is not easily or quickly done. He seems strong. He seems quick enough.

But lately, the thing that raised a flag about Pouncey in college has shown up during practices. The center snaps and exchange with quarterbacks have not been always clean, especially in recent practices. I don't know if those are on Pouncey or on the quarterback or both. But something questionable is going on. So we'll have to monitor the situation to see if this question gets answered or if it becomes a larger concern. And until the answer comes, what do we have here?

A question mark.

The reason the Dolphins felt compelled to go for a center with their 2011 first round pick? Jake Grove was a high-price free agent bust. The club paid Grove $14 million guaranteed as part of a five-year, $29.5 million contract before the 2009 season.  

Grove came to the Dolphins with an extensive history for getting injured. It was the first thing after the contract details the South Florida media noted when Grove signed. And then Grove came to Miami and kept getting injured. SMH!

Grove was cut in September of 2010. He played a grand total of 12 games for Miami with 10 starts. Amazing, $14 million for 10 starts. Must be nice. Glad it's not my money.

Grove is out of the NFL now. So is Justin Smiley. He retired earlier this week after spending a couple of days in the Oakland Raiders training camp.

Oh, don't worry about Smiley, either. He's not hurting financially because the Dolphins paid him $9 million guaranteed before the 2008 season as part of a five-year, $25 million contract.

Like Grove, Smiley came to the Dolphins with an injury history. And, sure enough, he got injured plenty with the Dolphins. He missed the final four games of 2008 with an injury and then missed four more in 2009 with a problem to the shoulder that had been surgically repaired in 2007.

I reported last year that Smiley told friends he knew that 2007 surgery had not gone quite right because he lost strength in the shoulder he was never really able to regain. The Dolphins traded him to Jacksonville for a box of sneakers and a roll of rusty pennies before last season. Another free agency bust.

The Dolphins signed their offensive line to $154 million in total deals before the 2009 season. Obviously only the guaranteed portion of those deals actually cost ownership out of pocket. But the money spent pales compared to the wasted energy and time invested on solving a problem over and over and over.

At center, Samson Satele, Jake Grove and Joe Berger have not been the answer.

At right tackle, Vernon Carey and Lydon Murtha have not been the answer.

At right guard, John Jerry, Pat McQuistan, DonaldThomas, Nate Garner, nor Ikechuku Ndukwe have been the answer.

At left guard, Justin Smiley, Andy Aleman, Garner, and McQuistan have not been the answer.

Draft picks Shawn Murphy and Andrew Gardner also didn't help and are no longer with the team.

When you really think about it, the best move the Dolphins have made on the offensive line -- all things considered including price paid, or draft compensation invested -- has been Richie Incognito.

He came to the Dolphins last year after washing out of a couple of college programs because of anger issues. He came after washing out in St. Louis and Buffalo. He came as a free agent so he cost no draft compensation. He played for near minimum salary last year on a one-year tryout.

He started all 16 games, with 15 of those at left guard and one at center. He played well enough to earn a new contract for this season and beyond and he's anchored as the starter at left guard again. Because he's played center, I'm assuming he'll help Pouncey.

Think about this, NFL: Richie Incognito is the most stabilizing force on the Dolphins offensive line right now.

Talk about plans not going as they had been laid.

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Going into the 4th season, the offensive line will only have 2 out of 5 players playing in the same position as last year, Long, Cognito. That's what you call a failure of the FO.

Taking Thomas over Mallet was questionable and then they pick up a 4th string udfa Devlin. Don't get it.

Poizen,

Belichick was just another coach in the league until Tom Brady showed up. He got lucky with Brady, and Brady's made him look like a genius. It's the player that makes the coach and not the other way around. You can scheme all you want, but if you don't have talent, it doesn't matter. And you can't coach talent.

bobby, that's the problem. I wouldn't care if the line was bad for a season or 2, if I could see the forest through the trees. I don't see an end game to all this tinkering. It's always a new guy here, new guy there. More importantly, this is the EXACT reason we don't play our rookies. Because on game day, there are like 20 olinemen, and then we can't see what we have elsewhere, like from Marlon Moore, or Roberto Wallace, or Reshad Jones. We don't dress these rookies because we have 20 linemen who are in this carousel coming in a few plays, going out.

How is Henne supposed to feel comfortable with that? I know I wouldn't. Jeez, I'm as hard on Henne as anyone else, but shouldn't the guy be able to trust his protection? Has he had ONE game in 3 years where he could do that? And Sparano wants to blame Henne, for something that was HIS (Sparano's) doing. Something HE couldn't make right.

No, that's not an effective Head Coach. That's not an effective line Coach for heaven's sake. That's a loser. And a loser at the top makes losers under him.

Let's get this season over, have our upteenth up and down season in a row, and then let's go out there and get a real Coach, that's confident in what he's doing, confident in the direction he wants the team to go, and EFFECTIVE enough to do it RIGHT, the first time!!

But, I am still STOKED on our DEFENSE! They have to be helping Henne in many way's! Going to the VIP Trainig experience on August 17th with the fins at NSE. Has anyone gone yet? On Mallet, Jamie Dukes from NFL Network gives this guy big prop's! Herm Edwards also praised Ryan Mallet on ESPN!

Loud, read the conversation in entirety, not snippets.

Craig & I were discussing improvement of teams, not their greatness.

Adding a probowl 3-4 ILB to replace a 4-3 ILB is improvment, especially when you run a 3-4.

Adding one of the best gadget players, st players & dependable #3 WR's in the game is improving.

Yes, they have alot of holes. No one disputes that. But, that wasn't what we were talking about.

If you look from a FA point of view, they added Smith & Barnett versus us signing Burnett & Bush.

The other guys we picked up are role players. The Bills are going with the youth movement. That's the reason to trade Evans.

Don't forget, the Bills were sooo terrible, yet, managed to beat Miami at home last year.

If you don't understand the original topic you shouldn't be talking about someone else losing some credibility. :) Just sayin'

We should get a bunch of sumo wrestlers to man the O-Line.

Chan Gailey > Sparano by 7 light years. Even Jerry Jones said one of his regrets was letting him go too soon.

DC Dolfan, well said

I find it very distubing that Sparano and his staff coached the senior bowl or east west schrine game where he had Jerry on his team and thought enough of him to draft him a couple of months later, and now Jerry is in danger of being cut.

Joe, or Ryan Mallett, or whatever your posting under next time :) I get it, and I got it before I posted. I'm saying Buffalo did not improve their team. That's what I thought you were talking about and you just confirmed it. A snippet of my post said "jets and Pats great teams" but that wasn't what the content was. I was trying to point out that the Bills have not got better by their offseason moves. Got Brad Smith? Losing Lee Evans. Got a new ilb ,,,that's it. And that wasn't even the weakness of their team. They did nothing to shore up their weakness. The Dolphins did what they did but they also have 3 players coming back from injury. The Bills have no one coming back from injury that will help the team in any way. Beleive me and give me a little credit for knowing something about a team that I live a short drive away from okay? Just trust me on this one. Consider the fact that I work 6 days a week with a guy who does nothing but talk about his beloved Bills and every move they make no matter how insignificant. I know the Bills almost as well as I know our Dolphins and trust me the Dolphins improved in the off season over the Bills.

If you had been on a desert island for the last 4 years and didn't know anything about Ireland/Sparano, this article will tell you all you need to know.

Flipping a coin, dart board or magic 8 ball would have had better results finding a better O-line.

One more thing: As bad as we needed a pulling guard, which is Pouncey's natural position, Sparano decided to play him at center. Just more evidence of incompetence.

cocajoe

We need a center just as bad. With Berger at center we totally sucked last year. He is a 3rd stringer at best. Pouncey will solve the center position for 10 years, he is fine there.

They beat Miami because they were playing under absolutely no pressure. This is a common theme in all of sports. It happens every year in every sport in the world. A team with nothing to lose is the most dangerous team out there. Go back and watch clips of that game. Two of Fitzpatricks tds were wing and a prayer tosses. One of them he throws into double coverage and the wr muscles the ball down. He was playing lose, with nothing to lose. Making throws that a qb who was trying to get his team to the playoffs never would have made.

I find this really funny. Here's what you said,

"Don't forget, the Bills were sooo terrible, yet, managed to beat Miami at home last year."

then you say,

"If you don't understand the original topic you shouldn't be talking about someone else losing some credibility. :) Just sayin'"

Do you see anything wrong with those statements? The original topic, as you pointed out was who improved more in the off season so exactly what does the Bills beating the Dolphins last year have to do with that? You don't even understand your own "original topic"! lol

And Joe what's with posting under multiple names and forgetting which name you are posting under? hahaha and what's with the "just sayin" line all of the time?

Are you really Armando? No, you can't be because he's doing his radio show so that means you're just using Mandos line you unoriginal piece of s**t! (the last line was a joke, old Adam Sandler bit, tollbooth willy!)

Joe don't get worked up at all I'm totally joking around. No harm meant. Have a great day all!

the D is excellent because of mike nolan. it has nothing to do with tinkering T.S. i'm saddened we traded up in the draft to get thomas in the 2nd round and don't take a QB. the nfl is a QB DRIVEN LEAGUE! someone has to tell jeff and tony.

Datajack, The Pats were doing great with beldsoe that same year. Not sure if we can say Brady made that team, if Bledsoe was having the same success.

There is no way of knowing, but I will say Cassel is not Brady, and he had pretty good success in the same scheme.

I think there is something to be said for Belicheck there. JMO

The finest article on the Dolphins I have read all season. It gives facts, and presents a pattern of either poor decisions, wishful thinking or lack of due dilligence. Could this not be the MAJOR problem that the Dolfins had last year. Rick and Ronnie did not get slow and sluggish all at once. Receivers did not have enough time to run routes on many occasions. And it looks like it is still continuing.

Armando, yes these guys got a Pro Bowler in Jake Long but also passed on a franchise QB to do so...Not very smart...Quarterbacks win Super Bowls, not LT's...No offense to Long. And why is Craig M so stressed with Mallett?? Are you afraid perhaps he proves you wrong?? So convinced he's a bust, what if he's not?? LOL!!

First mistake by Parcells...Taking Sparano instead of Rex Ryan. Second mistake, he took Jake Long instead of Matt Ryan. Took the $$ and ran. Now he's making more $$ on ESPN. Quite a genius all right...No wonder Shula can't stand him...OVERRATED.

...I knew this was coming today. It was like a reoccuring nightmere. "See, we should have drafted Mallet. He was awesome last night. The FO. are idiots again(ok, so that may be correct)" Stop it already. Some who post here felt that Mallet was the little baby surrounded by the dudes wearing robes in the manger. You could be right, he may be the next coming of Tom Brady.

But!!! Do not look into his productivity, or his guady PRE-SEASON stats as a reason to rip this orginization. For 1 look at the orginization he is playing for, and ask yourself if you think that he is so superior talent wise that we could develop him the same here. Think of it this way. With the exception of NE fans, and some Arkansas fans. There was no media hype, or even a mention of Mallet until after the game. Switch that to Miami.It would be headline city for every outlet covering the game. Add the pressure that would be put on his shoulders to be the guy here, and the whole experiment is different.

Sure, Mallet would have probably sat for the year behind Henne. But just like Denver. You would have many calling for him to play. And with desperation comes..well desperate moves. It is reasonable to think that Mallet would have been thrown to the fire here well before he was ready. This is all speculation. Just like Mallets night equates to now he is a superstar because he lit up the Jags 3rd string. Hell Josh Portis led his team to 2 4th quarter TD's against the Bolts..Blew it there too.

Mallet is in a situation in New England, that Miami could never had afforded him. He may be successful there. But do not make the mistake that that would have automatically translated here.

Guys,

I am a diehard Dolphins fan, but, facts are facts, the Patriots w/ Bellicheat have had the upper hand agaiinst this regime for years. The draft strategy when BB and Scott Pioli translated into acquiring muliple picks for future drafts. You won't hear that on Sportscenter, but, that's reality. We on the other hand, attempt to hit on one or two " gems " (jeff ireland quote)in the entire draft, but, without thinking ahead (jeff and tony) they don't fill the roster with young hungry back-ups or depth. Like Armando stated in previous blogs numerous times, The Pats can afford to " take a chance " on a Mallett, or Haynesworth, OcoCinco, etc because their roster is completely stocked, via solid drafts. Jeff and Tony should have followed THAT blueprint 3 years ago.

Don Shula: Greatest NFL Coach that ever lived.
Bill Parcells: Most overrated Coach that ever lived. OVERRATED.

ok u guys honking the mallet horn, we heard u at the draft, he could make a decent qb one day, 1 pre-season game doesn't mean that much though, certainly not that he's franchise calibre which is what we need next year whether henne succeeds or not (he'll have to be stellar for me not to want to pick a qb first round next year) and whilst i wasnt esp happy with trading up for dt until both henne and him have failed this season there's no indication that we should have taken mallet

the chances of him starting for us/beating out henne weren't that high and there'll be better qb's available next year (imo)

Did anyone see Ryan Mallet? How can we not have drafted him in the second or third round? I would have been content on getting him with our first round pick. I have not been hard on this regime. But not drafting this kid was a huge mistake. A mistake that will kill us for another 10-15 years. He is Brady's replacement people. In three years, Brady gets traded for two first rounders and Mallet takes over the patriots reign. They don't miss a beat. I feel like vomiting.

carl, whether center or LG was the most needed is not the point (my view is a pulling LG). But Ireland/Sparano's poor decisions and trying to force a square peg in a round hole.

UF converted Pouncey from his natural position as a pretty damn good pulling LG to center. He had trouble with snaps there, he's having trouble with snaps here.

Reason we're 4yrs and still not a complete product at oline is directly linked to injury prone signings Grove and Smiley. Both played 2 season and were cut in thier 3rd seasons.

IMO, you have a better chance of finding a premium olineman drafting them in the 1st two rounds. Jake Long 1st rd, check. Followed up with Shawn Murphy(4th rd) and Donald Thomas(5th rd). Booooooooooooooooo!

Even drafting a olinemen 1st-2nd rd isnt a 100% chance of finding greatness. Still selecting one after the 1st-2nd rd nfl history suggests an even greater fall off. Current proof of that fall off of even taking a olineman 3rd rd and expecting him to be a dominant starter right away exists with our very on John Jerry.

Sparano may consider himself an oline guru, however, even the greatest sculptures begin thier greatest projects using the very best clay. No matter how great the sculpter, its very difficult to work with mud. It just aint happening! LOL....

The two biggest problems on this team are:

1) Our Front Office's Ability To Evaluate. They can't evaluate college players, free-agents, other teams (or their players).

2) Faith! The owner has no faith in the coach. The coach has no faith in the QB. The players have no faith in their team-mates. And, the fans...

I just hope the next coach/GM tandem doesn't throw out the baby with the bathwater. There are a lot of really good players on this team.

"What's the difference between the Miami Dolphins and the Boy Scouts?"

Answer: the Boy Scouts have ADULT leadership!

Carlos, we don't draft QB's here. Strickly forbidden. After all, it's only been about a decade since we had a decent one...

GREATEST QB.........TOM BRADY


OVERRATED QB........... MARINO.

OVER RATED................. SHULA


GREATEST COACH............ TUNA

#1 in Montreal. Now that would have been the price of admission. Parcels and Rex Ryan on the same team with parcels as the boss.

i've been a dolphin fan ever since cszonka spoke to our high school team. i don't consider myself a cheerleader. when the GM and coach are proven to be suspect its our duty to hold them accountable. the reason for the trifecta was secrecy so us fans would not know who was responsible for the mistakes. we could only guess as they hijacked our team. parcells then stuck us with his appointee's and fled. when can we have our beloved team back???? ross would sell in a minute if he could find a buyer.

tracy474@ 111.19

post of the day(imo!)

Overrated but is the winningest coach ever...That makes sense...You don't win over 300 games in the NFL by being overrated...

GREATEST MOVIE.................. PSYCHO


WORST MOVIE ...... RISE OF THE APES

I've been saying the same thing all along, it still appears that Tony Sparano is still has an offensive line coach mind and not a head coach's mind. In my mind, he has a history over overmanaging his offensive front line even though he is now the head coach and not just an offensive line coach! I hope that I've been wrong, but we'll soon find out because he appears to have a great offensive line coach with even good depth. We'll soon see for sure. watch!

GREATEST WR............... RICE


OVERRATED................... BESS

GREATEST BLOGGER WHEN HE'S NOT OUT OF CONTROL......... DB

OVERRATED........... OSCAR,THE SHORT GUY .

greg z, 11:22AM, my feelings exactly.

UNDER RATED PLAYER........ WAKE THE QUAKE


OVERRATED....................... DANSBY

"The Pats were doing great with beldsoe that same year. Not sure if we can say Brady made that team, if Bledsoe was having the same success."

Posted by: Poizen

Hilarious!!

If Bledsoe was doing so "great", then why wasn't he put back in as a starter when he got healthy? It was clear as day to Belicheat that Brady gave the Pats the best chance of winning. It took huge stone to bench your franchise QB in favor of an unproven, 6th rounder. Multiple Super Bowl victories later, we'd have to conclude that Belicheat was right.

How many Super Bowls has Bledsoe won? Use your brain, Poizen.

DD,

I was a huge Mallet supporter, but for me its far too early to begin ranting, "We Should Have Taken Mallett!"

Mallet played against a 3rd team defense. Sure he shined but lets all be realistic. Mallet will sit behind Brady and wont play a meaningful game for the next 2-3yrs unless Brady is injured. Though he will probably see some mop up duty after blowout games.

Had Mallett come here, fan expectation would have been for him to become starter right away. This may or may not have been the best thing for Mallett's development. Mallet's greatest assett in college seemed to be his "deepball touch". Still he would have been a "work in progress" in the development of the thoroughness of his game.

At least before I begin screaming "Mallett!". I'll wait to see how the 1st 5-6 regular season games go with Henne at the controls.

I hate to admit it, but, these guys are thinking that it's the 2001 season instead of 2011. Like another poster stated " it's a quarterback driven leaque " and these guys are gonna go down with " THIER GUY " like a Captain goes down with a sinking ship. I thought I would never say this, but, we need to dump Ross, Jeff, and Tony and get a real coach, and GM who knows the game in real time and can adapt year to year not decade to decade. How are other teams able to find what they need either in the draft or free agency, because of their FRONT OFFICE and OWNERSHIP.

You want to rank the Dolphins Franchise Front Office and Owner = DEAD LAST !!!!!

OVER RATED QB................... MATT RYAN


UNDER RATED...................... HENNE

I love balls.

BEST RUN TEAM............. FALCONS...... NE


WORST RUN TEAM........... MIN

ALoco,

Love the comments, but, Henne UNDER RATED, are you smoking CRACK ? We have had THREE YEARS of CHECKDOWN CHAD when he gets rattled, I don't see him UNDER RATED, maybe OVER RATED by this crappy regime ? What say YOU ?

Sam, What are you talking about?

Bledsoe had his Sternum detached from a hit that almost killed him?

Dude that comment was weird.

I don`t think this article by Mando says anything we didn`t already now but don`t exactly see it as dire as he paints it either. We have some players that Ireland brought in who can play but it`s Sparano the Coach who has to make use of them. Ireland signed Ray Willis a 3 year starter at RT for the Seahawks who is all of 29 years old and if you check graded out high amongst players at his position. The worrisome thing for me is the line from Sparano about Colombo being fine cause he watched the tape?? Coach forget the tape for a minute have you watched practice or any of the teams scrimmages?? In the night scrimmage which I was reading here along with a host of others I counted 3 sacks he gave up to JT alone, had it been the JT of 06 I could in my mind have explained it away but there both older players now and you had to be worried at how he abused him.

I think back at the Cowboys OL`s in the time Sparano was there and think he was nothing more than lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. He had Flozelle Adams (LT), L.Davis(LG), A.Gurode (C), K.Kosier (RG) and Colombo at RT all of these players including a much younger Colombo went to multiple Pro Bowl`s and were widely considered in there primes the best in the business. I don`t know who scouts the position for Dallas but they have been a top 5 OL for over 2 decades schuffling pieces better than anybody else.

In Sparano`s time in Miami if anything he has been exposed as a fraud in his supposed expert back round as an OL Coach. His inflexibiity is mind blowing stuff. We more than likely at his insistance draft an OL Rd.1 in the draft and he can`t even play him at his natural position. "Hey Tony Mike Pouncey has been playing LG since H.S. it`s his twin Maurkice who plays Center". The only reason Mike played there last year was because his twin jumped to the NFL, CAPICE!!!

I don`t know why eveybody is so suprised that he has trouble with his exchange. If you followed the Pre-Draft reports they all listed it as his weakness, we discussed it to death here before and after the draft. It reminds me of when Wannstedt drafted Carey a RG at the U and wanted to convert him to play LT???? We have players on our team to man the OL. Even in Incognito you have a guy who played Center during his College days at Nebraska and might be better suited to man the spot were you can match him up on a DT an let the more athletic Pouncey pull and lead at LG, if it were up to me our Day one starters would be as follows.

LT....J.Long
LG....M.Pouncey
C.....R.Incognito
RG....V.Carey
RT....R.Willis

NICK...... HENNE IS OVER 500 AND STILL GETS NO CREDIT FOR ANY THING HE DOES ....SO HE'S UNDER RATED ......THERE'S MORE ROOM TO GROW THIS YEAR AND HE WILL DELIVER ////////


BEST OWNER.......KRAFT
WORSE OWNER ............. NONE,THEY ALL RICH

What Happend to our 4th round draft pick Shawn Murphy in 2008? What's up with our 3rd draft pick John Jerry? Why did we give our 2nd rd draft pick Samson Sateele (Center)for a 6th to the Raider's who by the way has been injury free for two years! And he played well against the run last year! Sparano said he was to small! CAUSE WE HAVE THE THREE STOOGES LEADING THE WAY! ROSS, IRELAND AND SPARANO!

cocoajoe

The snaps issue was way over blown, it was only initially at college and he soon corrected that by all reports. Now in camp sure there have been some off snaps, but think about it, rookie center snapping to rookie udfa Devlin...thats where most of the mishaps were.

Pouncey is a great athlete, anyone who thinks he won't be able to snap the ball is grossly underestimating him. I wouldn't worry about it. We needed a center and if they think he can play center better than Cognito after getting some experience, I'll take their word on it.

Pouncey at center is about the last thing I'd be complaining about this season.

We spool Ef-d up not getting Mallet over a what looks to be a mediocre running back. The best part of this is after this season we'll be rid of Sparano and Ireland and hopefully whoever takes over will be smart enoug to get a QB with the wonderful draft pick we're gonna have.... Can't BELIEVE they let Mallet get by. Nother disappointing season... Thank FO.

"Sam, What are you talking about?

Bledsoe had his Sternum detached from a hit that almost killed him?

Dude that comment was weird."

Posted by: Poizen


Are you really as dumb as a bag of hammers?

I said when Bledsoe got healthy (i.e., recovered from his injury) everybody (including Bledsoe) thought he was going to get his starting job back. Belicheat put the brakes on that by telling Bledsoe that Brady was his new starting QB, essentially "benching" a healthy Bledsoe.

..DB. I remember, we had some very good debate about Mallet up to the draft. I stand firm thinking that he may end up being a good quarterback. But not here. So many variables go into the success and failures of these young guys. If they do not have the right heads around them when they experience the growing pains. Those pains turn into disease.

The situation here IMO was the absolute worst case scenario for Mallet. Does this mean that we can never draft an early round talent to develop? Absolutley not. But as you noted. There would have been so much pressure for Mallet to start that the second Henne faultered, or Mallet showed any signs of success. It would have next to impossible to keep him on the bench. Would he have done well here? He could have. But the odds would have been much higher for failure here then in a place where they have stability througout the orginization..

Not comparing Chad Henne to Joe Motana but consider this:

Prior to having Jerry Rice and John Taylor, Joe Montana could very much have been considered a check down qb. Hell, the Bill Walsh offense at the time was actually designed around "checkdown passing".

Remember Roger Craig? He was one of the greatest pass catching and RAC rb's the league has ever seen. I said that to ask this:

"Can a healthy Reggie Bush Be just as effective in this phase of the game and become Roger Craig-like?" I certainly believe the possibility exists because Craig never had the take it all the way to house explosiveness of Bush.

So, IMO, a healthy Reggie Bush catching at least 64 balls will be really great for our offense. Guys 64 catches is very possible. Thats 4 catches a game. If he scores 15% of 64 catches thats 9.6 td's for the season for him just recieving alone.

Bush can become one of our greatest 2011 weapons should he remain healthy and dc's will have to game plan around him giving other offensive players chance to shine in the process. Used correctly and remaining healthy, Bush should be a double-digit td season waiting to happen.

DB............ GREAT POSTS TODAY ...... BUSH COULD BE THE SLEEPER HERE ...STILL ANY ONE IS BETTER THAN RICKY AND BOWN WHO HAD 3 TD'S BETWEEN BOTH OF THEM LAST YEAR .......

DB IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE BLOGGERS, HE WRITES WITH ACCURACY AND PASSION .......................

bush couldn't do much having Brees at QB, not realistic to expect he will be better with Henne.

Except for durabilty issues, the similarities of Bush and Roger Craig are strikingly similar. Both are absolute coverage nightmares and mismatches against even the best nfl coverage lb's. Reggie Bush may just be a more explosive version of Craig pass catching out of the backfield. The dudes a 1st down or touchdown waiting to happen on every catch he makes.

This could very well be the season dolfans fall in love with checkdown passing in Miami. LOL...

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