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Monday afternoon training camp report

Let me begin by borrowing from the Dolphins 2010 lexicon and feed the wolf. As I clearly have seen from the quarterback-hungry and quarterback-controversy-hungry readers and fans that follow this team, you want to be fed quarterback news.

Here you go:

Chad Henne is the starter. Matt Moore is the backup. That's the way it is going to play -- regardless of what fans want -- for the immediate future. Henne will take all the snaps with the first team offense in Friday night's home preseason opener against Carolina and Moore is not getting any of those opportunities against starters.

"I don't have that in the plan right at this second," coach Tony Sparano said Monday. "Chad is going to get the first team reps right now and Matt will be in with the second group right now."

So let me play traffic cop: Nothing to see here, folks. Move along. Nothing to see here.

At least right now.

Henne would have to suffer a serious meltdown in coming practices and games while Moore would have to go Marinolike on defenses for this situation to change, in my opinion.

I'll let you know if it changes but until then, assume it will not.

Sparano said he told the team everyone needs to be ready to play and they might play 'until I'm tired of them playing." But he went on to say he sees "some guys" going into the second quarter perhaps even until halftime.

The Dolphins will have to spend the next couple of practices and games taking a serious look at their tight end situation because, behind Anthony Fasano, no one is really making the coaching staff feel comfortable. Well, Charles Clay is getting work in Miami's double-tight package but even he is not exactly wowing folks.

"I'm happy in that I like the group of people that are there, yes," Sparano said. "As far as the production at the group right now, no not quite so. In other words, we got  a lot of young players. They have a long way to go.

"It's a positiion that is muddy to me other than Fasano and I have to get to the bottom of it quickly."

After last week's dropped pass and zero-catch performance, I might throw Fasano into that mix of questionable production, but clearly the Dolphins do not.

Another area I would look for more clarity on is the offensive line. The unit isn't necessarily bad. But it isn't close to being good, either. They've got work to do and precious little time to do it. Look for this group to perhaps be among those that play a long time Friday. That is the only way to gel and get better.

On the newsy front, The Herald's Barry Jackson reports that the restructuring of Vernon Carey's contract cut the player's 2011 salary from $4.2 million to $2.5 million. The Dolphins also voided the final three years of Carey's contract. That means Carey would be an unrestricted free agent in 2012.

And that means the Dolphins will be looking to add more offensive line help next offseason.

On the injury front, Phillip Livas missed practice today after a hamstring tightened up on him. Livas returned a punt return 75 yards for a TD against Atlanta but obviously durability is an issue the Dolphins monitor closely so it's important for him to get back to his competition for a roster spot ASAP.

Livas is competing with Clyde Gates for return duties. And although you should know Reggie Bush took punts today in practice, he is not expected to fill that duty in the preseason.

Cornerback Will Allen returned to practice today after missing much of the last couple of weeks with a hamstring injury. He said afterward that he would not rule himself out of playing Friday.

Sparano gave a couple of interesting hints that could affect roster decisions. He called Lex Hilliard "one of the best two special teams players" on the team. That combined with Hilliard's ability to contribute at running back and even fullback in a pinch suggests he's got a role worthy of a roster spot.

The Dolphins have worked a lot of what they call 21 personnel, which is double tight ends and one running back but haven't shown any 22 personnel, which is two tight ends, a running back and fullback. Having not seen this, I wondered if Lou Polite was an endangered species on this roster.

Fact is fullbacks are endangered in the NFL as fewer and fewer seem to be holding jobs while team emphasize passing and using an H-back. Sparano seemed to suggest Polite has nothing to worry about.

"There's enough good things that Lou Polite does right now that will help us and somebody is going to have to do a heck of a job for me to think otherwise," Sparano said.

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TorturedDolphan,

Below is a re-post of my explanation for the AFC East being a toss up. Instead of calling me a moron why don`t you read it and tell me where I`m wrong because while the smart money would probably be on the Pats, I firmly believe that 2nd thru 4th place are a TOSS UP!!!! The Division will be tightly contested until the end.

By the way which Marino record will Henne break? His cosecutive starts are not within reach maybe the 5,084 yards in a season? That is the only record he still owns genius, the all time yards and TD`s now belong to Favre. The TD`s in a Season to Brady with Manning in 2nd and Marino in 3rd.

THE POST IN QUESTION


I see a Pats Team that has alot more question marks than in resent memory. For starters if you analyze there moves on D, it becomes pretty apparent that they will use some 4/3 scheme this year if not play it as there base out right. Haynsworth is better suited at DT in a 4/3 not a NT in a 3/4 and even less effective as a 3/4 end, Wilfork was a beast at DT in a 4/3 in College and Ellis was always better pass rushing in that formation as well. You look at the fact they didn`t go get a MLB to pair with Mayo after the bad Season they got from B.Spikes and you can start doing the math. There now going to bring in a 35 year old S.S. on a bad knee and it becomes very apparent it`s not going to be as cut and dry as it has been in past Seasons.

The Ocho experiment apparently is not going according to plan why else bring in TJ with Branch already on board. In N.Y. they got some crazy talk going were they actually think there better than last year?? Wonder what the HELL there smoking out there. They lost there big play deep threat who runs a 4.35/40 and replaced him with a posession guy who`s best 40 was in the 4.45 range 10 years ago and hasn`t played since 2008. They then also loose there slot WR and replace him with geriatric D. Mason, couple that with the loss of Ellis and the double teams it will mean for Pace with a rookie now opposite him and I don`t see how they think there better. By the way they also got a big fat question mark on the right side of there OL.

In actuallity the Team that got better addressing there needs with solid young players at key positions are the Bills, call me crazy but there rookie DT is a stud and they have boasted one of the better secondaries for sometime now, if they can play the run better look out. On O they add x-factor Brad Smith hurting the Jets some more while making themselves better, expect to see Spiller in the slot like us with Bush and if Fitzpatrick progresses then they become a very legit opponent again. In analyzing everybodies moves including our`s I think the AFC East is a toss up for the 1st time in a decade.

fin4life | August 15, 2011 at 04:29 PM

Patrick Turner 6-32yds and a TD...Sancheeze was 6-7 43yrds. Sancheezze sucks, but our Henne sucks worse

Aloco... How was your swisschard the other day bro?

f4l,

Dont sweat that monkey his name is after all tortured says it all dont you think.

Diamond said we'd be in the playoffs with one of those coaches plus Henne...buwahahahahahahahahahah..crack smoker! You r crazy diamond...if we had a QB this team we have would be in the playoffs for sure...possibly a good TE too..

Aloco...swisschard...how was it bro?

What the hell is a swisschard, fried cheese or something

TorturedDolphan,

I`m still waiting on my response you Brainiac!!

LMFAO at the moron (no offense to tards reading this blog) who thinks the east is a toss up. Vegas loves you! In related news did you know that Henne is going to shatter Marino's records?

TorturedDolphan | August 16, 2011 at 12:16 AM
TorturedDolphan,

Below is a re-post of my explanation for the AFC East being a toss up. Instead of calling me a moron why don`t you read it and tell me where I`m wrong because while the smart money would probably be on the Pats, I firmly believe that 2nd thru 4th place are a TOSS UP!!!! The Division will be tightly contested until the end.

By the way which Marino record will Henne break? His cosecutive starts are not within reach maybe the 5,084 yards in a season? That is the only record he still owns genius, the all time yards and TD`s now belong to Favre. The TD`s in a Season to Brady with Manning in 2nd and Marino in 3rd.

THE POST IN QUESTION


I see a Pats Team that has alot more question marks than in resent memory. For starters if you analyze there moves on D, it becomes pretty apparent that they will use some 4/3 scheme this year if not play it as there base out right. Haynsworth is better suited at DT in a 4/3 not a NT in a 3/4 and even less effective as a 3/4 end, Wilfork was a beast at DT in a 4/3 in College and Ellis was always better pass rushing in that formation as well. You look at the fact they didn`t go get a MLB to pair with Mayo after the bad Season they got from B.Spikes and you can start doing the math. There now going to bring in a 35 year old S.S. on a bad knee and it becomes very apparent it`s not going to be as cut and dry as it has been in past Seasons.

The Ocho experiment apparently is not going according to plan why else bring in TJ with Branch already on board. In N.Y. they got some crazy talk going were they actually think there better than last year?? Wonder what the HELL there smoking out there. They lost there big play deep threat who runs a 4.35/40 and replaced him with a posession guy who`s best 40 was in the 4.45 range 10 years ago and hasn`t played since 2008. They then also loose there slot WR and replace him with geriatric D. Mason, couple that with the loss of Ellis and the double teams it will mean for Pace with a rookie now opposite him and I don`t see how they think there better. By the way they also got a big fat question mark on the right side of there OL.

In actuallity the Team that got better addressing there needs with solid young players at key positions are the Bills, call me crazy but there rookie DT is a stud and they have boasted one of the better secondaries for sometime now, if they can play the run better look out. On O they add x-factor Brad Smith hurting the Jets some more while making themselves better, expect to see Spiller in the slot like us with Bush and if Fitzpatrick progresses then they become a very legit opponent again. In analyzing everybodies moves including our`s I think the AFC East is a toss up for the 1st time in a decade.

fin4life | August 15, 2011 at 04:29 PM

I`m still waiting for you to school me with you infinant wisdom!!

Wow....so Coach Tony might let the starting OL play until he is "tired of seeing them"...How long did he take to come up with that brilliant strategy ?
Oh wait, I forgot, he likes this group of guys.
What a completely inept excuse for a HC. He is so clueless it's pathetic. And this regarding his forte, the O-Line.
Case in point, it took him an entire season to realize that the Vernon Carey at Tackle experiment was a bust. Yet he wants the line to play together and gel. At the present rate of discovery, they will be firmly set just when it's time for most of them to retire. What a friggin joke !!!!

LMFAO too easy. Sunday's are going to be hilarious here as always. Vegas loves you baby!

Two major players the Dolphins needed in the draft and didnt even get a wif. QB and TE.
Free agency comes along and look at the free agent TE's. The Dolphins get NOTHING. Now Sparano is again whinning about the TE's and QB. I really believe Sparano is no more a football talent scout then Woody Woodpecker. If I were to go back in time, last three yrs, and re-read Sparano's comments to the Herald, they would read the same today. He says the same ole crap yr after yr, camp after camp and nothing changes but faces and names. Still no players. The problem on the Dolphins is without a dought, Sparano......

How long were there top tier tight ends available in the market and we passed on them??? I just love how Soprano now says he has to get to the bottom of the problem when all of us fans BEGGED them to go get a tight end 3 weeks ago!!!

On my final analysis. Sparano is just not a good coach.

Any inside news on Carlson Palmer? We need Palmer ASAP


Wolf, you just gotta ignore the anti-Henne people here. The fact is Henne is the starter and nothing will change that fact. Just sit back and enjoy the whining, makes me laugh

Posted by: bobbyd12 | August 15, 2011 at 06:04 PM

Sit back & watch the losses pile up.

Dolphin QB siuation is sickning..Will the tickets be 1/2 price this season ? Since we are gonna play without a QB ? CMAO...

Henne could do good this year. And so will the Dolphins. go Tony

CAN THE DOLPHINS SIGN O'HARA AND MOVE POUNCEY TO GUARD? WE NEED PULLERS!

Lebron should come play tight end for us, he would be a beast down the middle. Lebron, come on dude, give it a shot you won't be doing nothing this year anyways....the phins will only put you in on passing situations so you won't have to worry about getting hurt...there isn't a DB in the leage that weighs more than 225!

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