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WR job available so why wasn't Edwards in mix?

I know the Dolphins are not a fantasy football team.

They operate under a salary cap. They make personnel decisions by weighing risks of potential roster additions as well as the potential improvement those additions might bring. There are no guarantees any addition will pan out because, as Bill Parcells famously says, "they don't sell insurance for this."

But ...

Following up on this column in today's Miami's Herald, in which coach Tony Sparano says there is a wide open competition for the team's No. 2 wide receiver job opposite Brandon Marshall, I have simply marvel at the fact the Dolphins were not the least bit aggressive in trying to add Braylon Edwards to the roster the past couple of weeks.

Edwards joined the San Francisco 49ers last week. He signed what was reported as a one-year, $3.05 million contract. Sounds expensive for a risky acquisition, right? It wasn't really. More on that in a moment.

I cannot stop thinking about the missed opportunity to add Edwards because currently the Dolphins are trying to decide whether Davone Bess or Brian Hartline or "maybe one of the young guys," as Sparano said, could step up.

In short, what the Dolphins have is an uncertain situation at the No. 2 receiver spot with none of the likely answers looking like as good a player as Edwards. I remind you Edwards caught 53 passes for 904 yards with seven touchdowns last season. That means Edwards averaged 17.1 yards per catch. For his career, Edwards averages 15.8 yards per catch, higher than any receiver on the Dolphins with more than one season of experience.

Now, I know Edwards is a knucklehead. I know he gets in trouble. I know he faces a possible four-game suspension from the NFL for violating the league's personal conduct policy. I get all that. I get that if Edwards is suspended he only plays 12 games.

But that suspension is not a certainty. And were it to happen, Edwards would come back with something to prove. He knows he has to fly right or his next step will be out of the league because precious few teams were interested in him this year. I know that for a one-year deal with no guaranteed money, the risk is really a fair gamble.

Remember there is no insurance for this.

The reasons to have done this are logical. Edwards played at Michigan and was a teammate of Chad Henne. He and Henne had a good relationship to the point the wide receiver and quarterback never had issues in or out of the huddle. Edwards would have been extremely motivated for those two games against the division rival Jets after they walked away from him. And, you have to understand that Brandon Marshall is still battling the demons of his personality disorder, so his status is not completely certain. If anything happens to Marshall, the team would have no other proven dynamic receiver to put on the field.

So why didn't he make sense?

Too expensive? Not hardly.

The 49'ers, in fact gave, Edwards an incentive ladden contract. To make his $3.05 million Edwards has to catch 90 passes and go to the Pro Bowl. I dare any Dolphins personnel man to tell me 90 catches and a Pro Bowl trip by a Dolphins receiver wouldn't be worth $3 million.

It absolutely would be worth it. Is Edwards going to get that? Probably not. But he is going to likely be a deep threat as he's been much of his career. He's likely going to drop a handful of passes as he has most of his career. He's going to give you an average of 5 TD catches for the season, as he has most of his career. He would also present the secondary with a terrible problem because no one could double cover both Edwards and Marshall.

Alas, the Dolphins went a different direction. They think one alpha receiver is good enough. In a league where the Eagles pile talent, atop talent, atop talent, atop talent, the Dolphins seemingly are content going with their solid if unspectacular guys.

I hope it works.

Except it hasn't so far.

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Not one contradiction in my posts. Not one. So keep on spinnin', dude. Maybe you'll bump into a fact. LMAO!

Posted by: Seminole Sam | August 11, 2011 at 02:10 PM

I'm LMAO along with you Sham. As you add to your contradiction totals, you contradict yourself yet again.

Be very careful what you say to Circling Sham fella's, he has no common sense whatsoever.

Yesterday he couldn't even understand the concept that QB's in the NFL usually "come of age" in their third season.

Watch out now, he'll come back and say I'm lying because they actually came of age when they turn 18! What a DOLT :p

You thought Meg Ryan was Clueless in Seattle?

Circling Sham is Totally Clueless in Miami-ROTFLMAO!!!!

PS Sham: Henne! Henne! Henne! Henne!


Posted by: odinseye | August 11, 2011 at 02:53 PM

You can't be serious about Edwards, Armando, can you? We already have a head case on offense in the form of Marshall. We don't need another.

Next.


Fin4life,

Don't argue with the Clueless one.

He makes points(in his own mind)by ignoring common sense and TRIES to resort to semantical strawman arguments.

Example:

Fin4life: Football is a mans game!

(everyone agree's, EXCEPT circling sham. He replies):

Sham: Bullshyt, you liar, The Lingerie Football League has women playing football every year.

Well this is a bad example actually. Because I'm sure sham has no idea what lingeries football is considering his favorites "SPORTS" bar is the Gay Berets Rainbow Room!

Posted by: odinseye | August 11, 2011 at 03:01 PM

"Now, I know Edwards is a knucklehead. I know he gets in trouble. I know he faces a possible four-game suspension from the NFL for violating the league's personal conduct policy. I get all that. I get that if Edwards is suspended he only plays 12 games."

Sincerely,

Armando

***************************************************

Yet, you don't get why the Dolphins have passed on Edwards?

Shammy Says:

Edwards sucks

Edwards is a Dud

I love Edwards because I suck!!!!

Because that wide open competition for the teams #2 receiver spot is probably no different than the competition for the starting qb spot.

"I'm LMAO along with you Sham. As you add to your contradiction totals, you contradict yourself yet again.

Yesterday he couldn't even understand the concept that QB's in the NFL usually "come of age" in their third season."

Posted by: odinseye

Odorseye,

The drunkard is out of the drunk tank and back on the blog!! Pretty sure the rotgut isn't too far out of your grasp. Now...

I noticed you didn't point out even one contradiction in my statements. So, I'll once again count you among the liars and obfuscators.

Further, I see that you've made a "massive" change in your original argument. Now you say, "QB's usually come of age in their 3rd year." That's quite different from your original argument of "almost all QB's take a massive step forward in the 3rd year!". Glad I could make you see the light. It's been my pleasure!

Just for you, Odorseye...

L-M-A-O!!!

Posted by: Seminole Sam | August 11, 2011 at 03:06 PM


Odorseye,

It's new thread, but if you want to carry it over to this, I can't stop you. Hence my 03:29 post.

What will give out first, Odins Liver, Or kidneys?

Edwards, and Ginn will have fun together trying to catch the ball.

Finafans72...From the last blog.....thanks....and now it belongs to the blog...."hopefully" more will see it that way....copy wrtite no longer needed....lol

so am i crazy, or has Hartline looked pretty darn good last couple of seasons & is finally ready to blossom?

You answered your own question.

"Now, I know Edwards is a knucklehead. I know he gets in trouble. I know he faces a possible four-game suspension from the NFL for violating the league's personal conduct policy. I get all that. I get that if Edwards is suspended he only plays 12 games."

Do we really need more drama like we are presently seeing with Marshall?

My answer: No! There are plenty of hungry, young players out there that will stay out of trouble. So why bring in another "knucklehead" as you put it?


I noticed you didn't point out even one contradiction in my statements. So, I'll once again count you among the liars and obfuscators.

-Everytime I pinned you down with the facts, the stats and all the examples, you tried to spin, twist and then change the subject. I don't have time and there's no need to point out all your contradictions. Everybody here can read and we've all seen the semantical games you try to play everytime you were proven wrong. Get life and a clue dude!

Further, I see that you've made a "massive" change in your original argument.

-NEVER waivered once. Your semantical severely challenged comprehension skills exposed you for what you are. You got embarrassed and started trying to play childish games.


Now you say, "QB's usually come of age in their 3rd year." That's quite different from your original argument of "almost all QB's take a massive step forward in the 3rd year!".

Look at all your contradictions in this post alone ROTFLMAO! I told you I don't care how you want to say it, "QB usually always take a big step forward in their third years"-Period. What part of this is so hard to grasp tardo? Ah ha ha!


Glad I could make you see the light. It's been my pleasure!

Just for you, Odorseye...

L-M-A-O!!!

Posted by: Seminole Sam | August 11, 2011 at 03:06 PM

If that's your idea of seeing the light, ah, I'll pass, I'll stick with the Dark, Dark Rum that is!

Bottoms Up Duesche Bag!!!!

ME!

Should we take a look at T.O. then?

A knuckelhead that drops passes???
Hey, sign me up.

Actually no thanks we are set a WR.
I'll take "unproven" guys like Hartline, Moore, Wallace and Gates over a guy that has proven he can be shown the door in Cleveland and NY. Bess and Marshall are locked in and Bush will mix in too at WR So why bother?

It's not going to work, the way Jeff and Tony work just doesn't get it done..it's been proven since theve been here...I'm disgusted that we didn't FO after either Burris, Edwards, or Smith....what is our FO thinking? Ross promised fireworks and delivered us duds and those cheap crappy fireworks you can buy at your local drug store...

"Look at all your contradictions in this post I told you I don't care how you want to say it, "QB usually always take a big step forward in their third years"-Period. What part of this is so hard to grasp tardo? Ah ha ha!"

Posted by: odinseye

Now you changed your argument for a 4th or 5th time? Now it's "QB usually always"? Usually always? Really?

You, my pickled-liver town drunk, are pathetic.

Warmly,

S. Sam

If the queen of all divas, Rex Ryan, gave up on Edwards' ways I think I can live with Miami not pursuing him.

Cowk, I promised my wife the same thing and delivered the same thing the front office is going to give to us., Thats why I wasnt shocked I got a call from her Divorce lawyer.LOL

I happen to think this could have worked out for all the reasons Mando stated. I do think no matter how problamatic and enigmatic Edwards is personally that he understands his bottom line financially and after marketing himself at 6 Mil plus with absolutely no takers has to get the picture, no?? In an O with him opposite Marshall I did have pause originally but his deal which Mando alluded to is incentive laden, his actual base per NFL Net is for a little over a Mllion at 1.2, the reward far out weighed the risk here.

It`s these types of moves that really leave you scratching your head and Edwards while a knockle head is mostly known for his late night partying not beating his wife, drugs or date raping anybody, his probation is for a DUI and how many guys have had that problem. He just should have known that 3 Black guys (he was with 2 teamates David Harris was one) driving around in a Benz at 5:00 AM in Manhattan were asking to get pulled over (like racial profiling didn`t play it`s part in his arrest) because per the report he wasn`t speeding or anything just randomly stopped out of shear stupidity. He would have given the O the potential to be lethal when you analyze the talent we have in place I don`t think that much can be argued.

Armando you are covering a front office that thought Greg Camarillo and Bess were the answer and thinks Fasano is really good. So now do you understand why these dolts didn't even talk to Edwards?

Hartline has a 15.1 ypc average for his career btw,underated and was coming on strong last year before injury

Very easy to believe Mando (and not because he's a "knucklehead"). First of all, Edwards isn't a Cowboys reject, and that's the best determiner if we are going to sign a free agent. Secondly though, and this goes to the team philosophy under this FO, but they are risk averse. When it comes to high risk/high reward players (like Edwards), the Dolphins ALMOST ALWAYS seem to fear the high risk. I think much of this is attributable to Tony Sparano/Jeff Ireland being green and new in their positions. They are not yet comfortable controlling a team, so they fear "troublemakers" because they don't think they'll be able to control them.

But, also, most high risk/high reward players are skill position guys. And in the Bill Parcells mold, skill position players are just not that valuable. Big, burly linemen are who are valuable to this FO. QBs, WR, TE, even RBs need not apply. That's why a Chris Johnson would NEVER have been drafted by this FO. They don't have a system that would play into the strengths of a home-run hitter. They'd rather guys that can scratch out 2-3 yards (so big, strong RBs with no speed whatsoever).

In the end, it's probably a losing proposition. Miami might win more games than last year (MIGHT), but in reality, it probably won't be enough games to save Sparano's job. Hopefully, the next Coach will have an updated strategy, using the rules (which favor QBs/WRs) to guide his offensive weapons (which today are smaller, faster high-risk/high-reward players, like DeSean Jackson).


Now you changed your argument for a 4th or 5th time? Now it's "QB usually always"? Usually always? Really?

You, my pickled-liver town drunk, are pathetic.

Warmly,

S. Sam


Posted by: Seminole Sam | August 11, 2011 at 03:47 PM


You said To-Mah-To, it's tomato dammit whaaaaaaaaaa!

The point is you haven't the slightest clue when it comes to football knowledge.

If you'd keep them "pickles" out of you mouth you might have a better chance of wrapping your head around what is quite an easy concept to understand.

Never changed my story once!

DC,

Good points, Great post!!

Just for argument's sake, what if Edwards is suspended for the first 12 games? Are you guys cool with his taking the roster the spot of a younger guy (with no baggage)?

"Never changed my story once!"

Posted by: odinseye

Your posts tell a different story, odorseye.

If only you had written a cogent, well-thought-out position originally...:sigh:.


He never played for the Cowboys Mando, why would you be surprised he wasn't brought in for a look?

Some Dolphins beat writers have become so blatantly negative that they are almost undreadable. It really seems that they are looking for things to complain about.

Would I want Edwards? No way. We have Marshall already. How many knucklehead WRs can we stand on this team? Let's develop our own talent, not invest money on an inconsistent knucklehead.

Qeustion - If Edwards was such a great pick-up, why didn't any other contender pick him up?
Answer - He's not a great pick-up.

Wow Armando, all of your writing and posts make me almost think you are a closet Jets fan. The season hasn't even started yet and you are still bashing this team off of what happened last year. So much for being optimistic. I am so glad your attitude isn't plastered all over the team's locker room. Why don't you wait and see the team play before you begin playing Fantasy GM. Here's an idea, let's not sign people that get DUIs and get into bar fights. But it makes something to write about so that's good for you I guess. Jeff Darlington has a few legs up on you my friend.


Just for argument's sake, what if Edwards is suspended for the first 12 games?

-Here you are trying to start an argument? Why am I not surprised? Edwards is a 49er you dolt, you wanna argue 49er's go out to Frisco, I'm sure a guy like you would ABSOLUTELY love it there, if you know what I mean.


Are you guys cool with his taking the roster the spot of a younger guy (with no baggage)?

Posted by: Seminole Sam | August 11, 2011 at 04:00 PM

What do you mean? "taking the roster" or "taking the spot"? First you say roster, then you say spot. You're changing youe story-WHaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

What a Dolt!!!!


lol @ nc finz 4:23

But, they signed Willis & Bush! lol

What do you mean? "taking the roster" or "taking the spot"? First you say roster, then you say spot. You're changing youe story-WHaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

What a Dolt!!!!

Posted by: odinseye

Wow. It's pretty clear I have somehow wounded you...didn't mean to do it.

NJFinFan...that you?

Hank, you mean she's a hemaphordite? maybe that's why she doesn't want kids.....my wife is all into her.

I believe Jamie Lee Curtis is the same thing. Has he/she innards.


Your posts tell a different story, odorseye.

If only you had written a cogent, well-thought-out position originally...:sigh:.


Posted by: Seminole Sam | August 11, 2011 at 04:02 PM

Yeah right, as if you'd be able to understand a well thought out position. Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!

The only thing about positions you understand is how to assume one. Now, on yo Knee's Be-atch!

..Screw Braylon Edwards.

If this regime cannot develop it's own players adding mercenaries to fill roles will only get you so far. Would Edwards be the missing piece to this offense that puts this unit over the top? Nope. We have able bodied players that need experience that IMO have a much bigger ceiling then Edwards. Let these young guys get out there and earn their stripes. We have them on the roster so use them.

Sure key free agent pickups are important to round out the roster, and hopefully improve your team. But guys that are 1 year contract guys are usually this for a reason. The jets let him go in favor of a reciever that hasn't played in 3 freekin years. If we were more stable at the quarterback position I would be more inclined to think this was a mistake. But we have a quarterback that can barely handle getting the bra unsnapped. So let him lead this young group.Show he can handle it before bringing in more noisemakers.

I wold love this:

If at the end of the season either Hartline or Bess has better stats than Edwards, no one ever again criticizes Jeff Ireland.

If at the end of the season, Edwards has better stats than Hartline and Bess post individually, Ireland tenders his resignation.

I like our chances of getting a new GM.

Edwards woud be suspended "IF" he gets suspended for the first four games like teamate Santonio Holmes was last year in N.Y. which seemed to workout great for the Jets and he is another low risk high reward player we passed on given he`s a SB MVP in his prime, explosive as hell who was had for a 5th Rd pick and we didn`t go sniffing, who was our 5th Rd pick again last year???

There still is an investigation regarding an incident during this last offseason about a Bar fight but everything made public points to him having had Dinner with 2 cousins who got into it with some other patrons and I don`t see how they can falt him for that.

I think it`s dumb to think the Jets gave up on him they just couldn`t fit them both under there cap and Edwards never signs the deal he just signed with S.F. for the Jets while Holmes got the long term Cash and the Jets were right Homes has more of an all around game but the thought of him on the field with Marshall and Gates/Bess in a 4 WR set for Miami is mind blowing stuff!!

Why didn't the Jets resign him?

Odinseye,

Here's what we can do to repair your wounded psyche - you can attempt to establish some preposterous premise (like you did yesterday)and I'll refrain from commenting on it this time. That should do it.

Cheers.

I like the IDEA of Edwards for all the obvious reasons. Especially the fact that he played with Henne previously.

Like Darryl though, because of the situation and possible "chemistry" implications, I'm fine with the fact we passed on him.

Go Clyde Gates!!!!

I agree DArlington has a few legs up ... two actually.

His legs are in the air while Jesse Fagler humps him on dolphins state radio.

davone bess is THE MAN. Henne loves db he throws to him all day and he's only getting bettrr

MC, other contenders didn't pick him up because they already have their skill position players. Patriots are the perfect example. They seem to THRIVE with these so-called knuckleheads. How'd Deion Branch work out for them (though he became a "problem" in Seattle)? Or Moss? Or Cory Dillon? Ditto Jets. They have Edwards, Santonio Holmes, and they go to the AFC Championship game two years running. I guess Dolphins fans are the only ones who don't understand mediocre talent at skill positions produces mediocre results. So, while the Falcons already have an A receiver in Roddy White, they get ANOTHER one in Julio Jones (and TRADE UP to get him). While Miami "hopes" Brian Hartline will pick it up this year and be able to take advantage of the double-coverage given to Brandon Marshall. God forbid we get 2, even 3 big-time, playmaking receivers. And add in a speedy, WR-like TE. God no, can't do that. Who's gonna block for Polite's 1-yard dash?

Faulty thinking. Here the NFL puts a big cake in front of offenses. They say to a QB, just throw it up, and if the defender touches one thread on your teammates jersey, we'll call a penalty. They're basically DARING teams NOT to throw the ball. All the new rules have been in favor of the pass, in favor of the QB/WR, yet, people still think it's smarter to run up the middle. And then the Owner wonders why there are 5 people at training camp and more opposing team fans at games than Miami fans. It's really no big mystery. No action, no fun, no winning, no love. One day someone from the FO will get it though. We're Americans, we always do what's right, once we've tried everything else!!!


Odinseye,

Here's what we can do to repair your wounded psyche -

-Yeah, like I let duMMasses that are clueless about football "wound" me-ROTFLMAO! Get the Fvck out of here with your sissy boy talk punk. You got schooled and tried any which way you could to save face. Your a hippocritical, tongue twisting no nothing, get a clue.


you can attempt to establish some preposterous premise (like you did yesterday)and I'll refrain from commenting on it this time. That should do it.

Cheers.

Posted by: Seminole Sam | August 11, 2011 at 04:14 PM

Shammy thinks it's preposterous that most QB's take their biggest leap forward in their third seasons. Alrighty Big Boy!

This all boils down to coaches who can handle potential troubled makers (read WRs) and those that can't. You've already seen a couple go to the Pats. They know that belicheat won't put up with their sheet or they're gone. They also know there's a chance to go to the SB. Surprised the hell outta me they went for Marshall.

This is has been a play it 'safe' play not to lose regime. New OC? Aggressive offense? Ok, let's see what you got.

Very good article. However, I think the dolphins people look at the receiving core as a whole as developing and I think they like Hartlines potential and skill-set. There may be a competition for the number two spot but I think they like the two contenders on the team already. We know Henne isn't a gun slinger who can take advantage of many weapons. With him at QB one of those guys if not both would have been very frustrated.

You can't be serious Armando. Marshall is worrisome enough even with his talent. Imagine Edwards' attitude on a young developing team like this. A tight end makes sense - a safety - another dive receiver? No thanks. Like our young talent at WR.

It's not fantasy football Mando. We got all the Dallas Cowboys trash that we have to fit under the cap. We also have to put our 14 defensive linemen under the cap. We also have to leave cap space for good locker room influences like Tiki Barber or Larry Johnson.

There was plenty of wr talent out there in free agency....there was plenty of Te talent out there as well...but once again this regime is VERY satisfied with the people they have here so in other words.....expect about the same game manager type offense as last year...very few big plays and probably fare share of fist pumps for carpenter...This is what it is, a bottom ranked offense and a pretty solid defense.

Darryl @4:13,

The Jets let him go because they had to make a decision about who to keep and Holmes is a more rounded out talent. Edwards like a R.Moss is more of a downfield one trick pony but there is no denying he helps (and at $1.2 ?), you don`t think it would have in the very least boosted Henne`s confidence knowing he had those to outside talents at his disposal, by the way who`s spot would it take to add him?? Marlon Moore, I can live with that as he`s had great Preseasons for two years now this being his 3rd and it has yet to translate. R.Walace would be safe because they would keep him for ST.

Look guys I love my PHINS but let's give TS a couple of games to see if this team looks different, and to see if the offense looks competitive....I say if TS dont win three out if four games to be fair, I posted on the other side two out of three, then he SOULD be fired and Mike Nolan as interim coach...
And if Henne does ok this or even pretty good next years first round draft pick is got to be a QB and offensive RT, but my gut feeling and I wish didn't feel this way TS is going to fail, why you might ask? Because of the OL not able to jell or build cohessivness in time for a run or a winning record this year!!

The best way to build a team is through the draft. Ind, GB and NE do it that way. NE does add some vet FAs but they also trade vets for draft picks.

Uggh. An article about Braylon Edwards? A week after he signed with another team? What is it with Omar and Mando and the crappy training camp coverage we've gotten to this point?

I guess at least Mando isn't pulling hair with other reporters the way Omar is right now. Geez.

Yeah, why didn't we add another problem receiver to go with our other one? Even the Jest didn't want to keep him! (rolling eyes)

Yes this move made too much sense. Something the Dolphins have been very short on for a long time. BUT!!! I think Edwards and Marshall wouldnt be able to co exist. They would both be b%tchin about getting the ball and Edwards would be b%tchin about Brandons paycheck. So I think in this situation our stupidity worked in out favor. just sayin~~

DC @4:20,

Again agree 110%

..My point is that I don't think that Edwards gives us anything that we already may have. Give our young guys a shot. We drafted a speedy wideout to get the ball downfield..check
We have a very goo slot reciever..check
We have a solid very good route runner who before injury was playing well..check
We also have a group of guys that got limited time last year that now have some more experience let them play..

Now I understand that this is a situation of the great unknown. Can Gates beat press coverages, and get a grasp on more complicated cover schemes? We will see. Can Marlon Moore do the same and learn to get open? He wasn't great last year, but had limited snaps. The concern should be tight end not reciever IMO.
But even with our addition of R.Bush. It should free up space for the tight ends in the middle part of the field. As Bush must be at least accounted for, and is a mismatch in our favor. so expect a much bigger contribution from the tight end spot this season...In the best case scenario in my simple mind.

I heard Lee Evans may be available via trade. Thoughts???

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