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Coaching hot seat needs to chill until after season

In two of the three newspapers that regularly cover the Miami Dolphins, today's editions include opinion pieces on how coach Tony Sparano is on the hot seat.

One treatment, in this publication, cites a friend of owner Stephen Ross as saying the owner is unhappy with the team -- join the crowd, Mr. Billionaire. The piece also quotes the mystery friend as saying Ross believes the team is not holding up its end.

(Hopefully when Ross promises to forever stop selling Jets shirts in his own team store, stops scheduling Florida Gator Lovefests in the stadium the University of Miami leases from him, and actually shows up on a week day to work around his team rather than just parachuting in on game day, we'll be able to say he's holding up his end.)

Anyway, the other opinion piece in The Palm Beach Post makes the point that if the Dolphins are 0-4 at the bye week -- which would assume losses at Cleveland this weekend and at San Diego the next, then Ross should fire Sparano. And hire Mike Nolan.

Wow.

Where to begin? OK, how's this:

Wrong.

I know it is not the popular opinion. I know that even on this Dolphins fan forum, many of the team's supporters won't agree. But firing Sparano without letting him finish what he's started is exactly the wrong thing to do.

First, let's address this from a practical standpoint. History says that changing coaches midstream in a season solves absolutely nothing. Quick, tell me what NFL team in the past decade has fired its coach during a season and solved its problems well enough to make the playoffs?

Yeah, I can't think of any, either.

Secondly, who do you want to replace Sparano at the midpoint in a season? Jon Gruden is busy. So is Bill Cowher. Rob Ryan, whose name is making the rounds lately, is busy as well. Elite guys like Jeff Fisher don't take over teams at midseason.

So that means the Dolphins would have to go inside the organization for the solution. Yes, cough, that sounds like, cough, a solution.

You want Mike Nolan to succeed as coach? The same Mike Nolan whose defense is ranked last in the NFL? The same Mike Nolan whose best thinking was to ask Benny Sapp to cover Wes Welker man-to-man? I don't think so.

Yes, Nolan did fine work with the Dolphins last season. I get that logic. Sparano did fine work in hiring Nolan last season and took the team to the playoffs in 2008. So, I imagine you get that logic.

What else you got? Didn't think so.

The Dolphins are indeed 0-2 and there's nothing good about that. But the truth is they lost to New England. The Patriots are a Super Bowl contender. They lost to the Texans. That team is expected to win the AFC South. Disappointing? Sure.

Devastating? No.

The Dolphins play Cleveland, Denver, Kansas City, Washington, Oakland and others that they can and should beat this season. They will face up the Jets as they always do. Same with Buffalo. Yes, they have to upset clubs such as Philadelphia, the Giants to salvage a playoff berth.

But that is possible. You're going to say replacing the coach now and going with someone else will make any of this more probable?

Then there is this: Many of you have continually hoped out loud the Dolphins would not fare well this season so they can draft a franchise quarterback. I'm not on board with such thinking. But for those of you that want to "Suck for Luck" should probably want the Dolphins to continue their current course.

I don't agree with that thinking, but that is out there.

Look, Sparano and his assistants and players and front office will be evaluated after this season is over. That's how it should be. That's fair and right. But to pull the rug out now? Or in two weeks?

What will that resolve? It is change for change's sake.  

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DOES SAPARNBO HAS ANY DIGNITY HIRING HIS SON AS QUALITY COACH AND CASHING ROSS'S MONEY ?

Sparano is on the hot seat whether he likes it or not.
Winning cures everything and until you show the world you can win...you're on the hot seat.

Tony is now 25-25 as Miami's HC.

That is not a winning record, and as Parcels famously said:

"You are what your record says you are"

Does Ross fire him after 0-4? 0-6? 0-8?

Only he knows the magic number, but right now he is 0-2, 1-11 @ home and about to slip under .500 in his 4th year of coaching.

HOT SEAT...HELL YEA HE'S IN THE HOT SEAT!

Tony Jr. is working out just fine with this regime. Quality is right where they want it and expect it to be.

Check personnel people for teams that have built solidly through the draft to replace Ireland. Laugh all you want but look at Detroit. Years of losing and they look like a good-great team for the next 5-7 years.
Heck even Buffalo. How do you account for their staff "finding" Fitzpatrick and Stevie Johnson, or Fred Jackson? Someone's got an eye for talent. yeah, they may have whiffed on Spiller, but their defense is also going to get better.
St. Louis too.

The Cowboys came pretty darn close to making the playoffs after firing Wade Phillips last year in mid season. Sparano should have never been allowed to coach the team this year! Ross proved himself to be a turkey with the whole Harbaugh fiasco! If the team is 0-5 or 1-4, Sparano doesn't deserve to keep his job, and the veterans holding meetings criticizing the teams complacency is 100% proof! Stop brownnosing the team and start being a more than mindless reporter concerned about your future stories!

Armando if we go 0-4 that stadium will be completely empty

I THINK IF HE GOES 0-5 OR EVEN 1-4 HE SHOULD GO UNLESS THE GAMES ARE REALLY CLOSE AND HE DOSEN'T DO ANYTHING STUPID, WHICH HE IS KNOWN FOR, BESIDES ARMANDO THIS TEAM IS GETTING NOWHERE NO NEAR THE PLAYOFFS, AND THE REASON TO FIRE HIM WOULD BE BECAUSE HE SUCKS AND HAS SUCKED FOR THE MOST PART, AND WHILE A COACHING CHANGE WILL NOT GET THE DOLPHINS IN THE PLAYOFFS IT MIGHT INSPIRE THE FANS AND THE PLAYERS WHO DON'T SHOW UP FOR TONY AT LEAST NOT YET, AND I DON'T LIKE YOUR ATTITUDE ABOUT LOSSES ARMANDO , I DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT CRAP WE WERE SUPPOSE TO LOSE TO THE PATS AND TEXANS, IT IS THAT KIND OF ATTITUDE THAT IS WRONG WITH THE TEAM , THEY SHOULD JUST PLAY HARD EVERY PLAY AND SHUT THERE MOUTHS AND SEE WERE WE ARE THEN, WHENEVER WE GET RID OF TONY THE TEAM WILL BE BETTER BECAUSE OF IT, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU MENTIONED THE PLAYOFFS GET REAL ARMANDO!

Final score on Sunday: Browns 38 - Fins 16. Three Fist Pumps for Tony!

And why would anyone want Sparano to finish out the season if this team is 0-4 or 2-6? Trying out one of Phins assistants would be a good idea wouldn't it. After all, that is the way Jeff Fischer came to be, isn't it.

This article is very short sighted by Mando.
It your the owner of the team it would make no sense to keep the current coach on if you know you will fire him at the end of the season. This essentially would be the try outs for assistants and players for that matter. See who brings it and wants to be here!
Further more it is clear that this team is poorly coached and that the game plans suck! Ultimately all game day decisions fall on the HC. Daboll is the OC but we all know it was Sparano keeping Thomas in and Bush out during the Texans game. Why didn't the game plan call for both of them on the field more often?

TS is reactive, not proactive. He is now 0-2 for 3 of the 4 years he's been coaching this team. Remember the days when Miami was fast out of the gate? I hope Ross has a list of candidates put together for HC this time around. Lets hope he doesn't screw this up because another bad coach is years more of agony for us fans.

In no way am I hoping the team I love to watch play poorly! I hope and pray that they win every game from here on out. But after the Texans game and JT's comments this week, it leaves a sick feeling in my stomach about this coaches capabilities. This team has good players and they should have beat the Texans. Poor coaching cost them the game, regardless of any player mistakes on the field.

I used to be in TS's corner, but he has used up my patience.

JEFF IRELAND RUNS THE DOLPHINS AS AUTO SHOP.....

HE HIRES NOLAN THE FRAUD.
HE HIRES THE HC'S SON AS QUALITY COACH.

HE PAYS SOILAI 12 MILLION THIS YEAR IN A TEAM FULL OF HOLES .

More then likely if Fisty is gonna be let go look at Thanksgiving day as the time when the Axe will fall, its as cloose to a bye week that there will be, Also its during the Holidays, What better way to reward the fans then to rid the team of this Turkey... HAPPY HOLIDAYS..

Paul Soliai = Fat Dead Man Walking!

Posted by: Poizen | September 22, 2011 at 09:04 AM

Poizen, Ross is part of the problem. He bought this franchise for entertainment, not football. What FOOTBALL fans is he bringing in? He's bringing in Jlo fans, Anthony fans, etc...people who don't give a lick about football.

Ross has been very tight with his checkbook this year. No Marshall or Dansby top salaries. Marginal players likle Bush & Burnett. Not making top dollar but void fillers.

With Sparano, Parcells & Irelands track record of wasting MILLIONS on FA busts & draft busts, why would he? He has tightened the regins because of these peoples incometenece.

He was disillusioned into thinking this team was close. He is obviously the dumbest owner in the NFL or the most loyal. Either way, that HURTS the franchise, not help it.

That's my take on it anyway.

RULES FOR RUNNING THE FINS''''''''''


1- NO RELATIVES ALLOWED FOR HIRING'

2- ANY GM MUST B E AROUND FOOTBALL MORE THAN 8 MONTHS LIKE IRELAND.

3-NO PLAYER SHOULD BE PAID MORE THAN 7 MILLION A YEAR BUT THE QB AS THE PATS DO.


The problem i have with Sporano its not because the team is losing its the way the team is losing. This team may have a few holes, but so does every team in this league theres no perfect team. But Sporano has shown the inability to cover this teams weakness.
Also for a coach to be in the hotseat. It took a veteran who have nothing to prove to point out the team is not practicing with focus and energy.
All off season this idiots talk about we need this player that player because his gud on ST. The unit still stinks.
He flip flop on signing players showing his inability to identify talent and gamers.
He keeps signing ex cowboys because of his inability to evaluate
Player upside.----
I think hes on drug or hes melting under the pressure
Hes A OL coach his OL line still tinks
Hes team can win at home and he said he has no idea why?
Mr.salguero stop fighting for a guy that already lost the fight.
Sporano is asking to be fired fire him already.

JOE SCHMOE............... YOU WERE RIGHT AND I WAS WRONG RE THIS TEAM ...... MY APOLOGY FRIEND .............

Other coaches NFL records:

Bill Cowher: 149-90 .623 / Playoffs: 12-9

Jeff Fischer: 142-120 .542 / Playoffs: 5-6

Jon Gruden: 95-81 .540 / Playoffs: 5-4

Obviously Cowher has the most impressive resume and logically is at the top of the list.

There is no excuses we really have alot of talent on this team when you have a Hall of Fame players saying that the practice's are very lackluster you have problems.Reggie Bush should be returning punts instead of sitting on the sideline you payed the man to make plays

Fisty will micromanage his way back to a high school offensive line coaching job.

FIRE SPARANO and ALL his kids and assts and coaches and trade away all the Dallas rejects.

FIRE Ireland now. Aggressively pursue a new owner that will make Ross an offer he cant refuse. Ross SUCKS and has no clue or class on how to run anything except the entertainment.


We don't need an owner who is more aggressive in hiring someone to sing Babalu.

Hire COWHER NOW. Don't give me the BS that the potential coaches out there are busy. Throw cash and you will see how they clear their schedules to become the HC for Miami.

COWHER... COWHER... COWHER NOW.

SPARANO HAS LOST 6 STRAIGHT DATING BACK TO LAST YEAR I AM NOT SURE WHY ROSS DECIDED TO BRING HIM BACK THIS YEAR, BUT I THINK IT IS CLEAR THAT IT WAS A MISTAKE

The Cowboys came pretty darn close to making the playoffs after firing Wade Phillips last year in mid season. Sparano should have never been allowed to coach the team this year! Ross proved himself to be a turkey with the whole Harbaugh fiasco! If the team is 0-5 or 1-4, Sparano doesn't deserve to keep his job, and the veterans holding meetings criticizing the teams complacency is 100% proof! Stop brownnosing the team and start being a more than mindless reporter concerned about your future stories!

Posted by: Richard G | September 22, 2011 at 09:24 AM

Funny you mention that! I was telling everyone last year, including my cowboy fan friends, that if they'd gone to Garrett after week 4, they might have made the playoffs. Jones kept putting it off that it was too far gone.

1-7 with Wade to 6-10 with Garrett. You're also right that Sparano, nor Ireland IMHO, should have been running this team this year.

Everyone said with a shortened offseason, we can't afford coaching changes. How's that working for the Browns & niners so far? They each got a win with new coaching staffs & we got 0.

Here's the top HC prospects first four years as coaches:

Cowher's first 4 years
11-5
9-7
12-4
11-5
Fisher's first 4 years:
7-9
8-8
8-8
8-8
Gruden's first 4 years:
8-8
8-8
12-4
10-6

thanks for responding Joe,

I still don't care about the entertainment thing as much. As an example I have a friend who is a big dolphin fan like I am, (he may come to the Giants game also) and his family are fans, so it is kind of a dolphin family thing. the weird part is, they are latin, and more of the family became fans, or paying more attention fans due to Anthony and J-Lo having parts in it.

It sounds crazy I know, but I will let him tell you at the game. So I am not seeing a problem with the entertainement thing at all.

Now, if he is skimping with the check book then there is my answer, but I always thought he had a open check book for who ever his operations people wanted to bring in.

Either way, if there is one thing I have never paid attention to is was ownership and how it is handled. I though Huizenga was a cool guy, met him a couple times and I liked the passion he showed to want the team to get better. Most people here hated him more than Ross, so I am a bad jusge of owner obviously. :)

NH, without question to me, Cowher is worth it. Tomlin, right now, is a great coach but his 2 SB appearacnes were with Cowher's team.

AND ANOTHER THING ARMANDO, TEAMS THAT START 0-2 HAVE ABOUT A 12 PERCENT CHANCE TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS, FIRING TONY EARLY WOULD GIVE NOLAN A CHANCE TO SEE WHAT HE COULD DO AS HEAD COACH, HE WAS NOT VERY GOOD IN SAN FRAN, BUT MAYBE THE SECOND TIME AROUND HE WOULD BE BETTER SEEMS MORE INTELLIGENT THEN TONY. THE BEST START WE COULD HOPE FOR WOULD MOST LIKELY BE 1-4 AND IF THIS HAPPENS THE SEASON IS LOST ANYWAYS, I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY WAY WE BEAT THE CHARGERS , MAYBE THE JETS , BUT THE WAY WE ARE PLAYING NOW , I DON'T THINK WE COULD BEAT ANYONE OR THE BROWNS

Gruden has won my vote, only because he lobbied for the job on Monday Night football and was passionate about it. (In code)

Passion goes a long way to creating success. If you live it and breath it for the love of what your doing, not the money. Good things will come.

Joe, The 49ers almost beat the cowboys too, They should be 2 and 0, I just got a feeling that when Ross was trying to get Haurbaugh the guy was probably wondering "Ross still hasnt fired his current HC and hes trying to get me, Sounds like a sleezy way to do buissness", I think he made his mind up to go to the 49ers cause Ross is a clueless,gutless,sleezebag, Then again maybe he would only have to drive 8 miles more to work..., Not sure why he chose the 49ers but Iam sure one of them was "Do I really want to work for this guy???" Ross is gonna have the same problem getting a quility coach down here for that exact reason, Again it's JMHO..

Cowher's wife died of cancer in July 2010 and is the main reason he left coaching...plus his daughers were playing college basketball and he wanted to be at their games.

His daughters have since graduated and Bill is now home alone...

...He is looking for a new project to start and there just might be an opening in Miami.

...Hmmmm

Poizen, Ross spent last year. He didn't this year...why? He started seeing the waste.

Yea, he has lots of money to burn but just because you have it doesn't mean he'll just throw it away.

Ireland & Sparano told them they are close. They said it last year, they had the talent. They were in win now mode. That explained the Al Harris acquisition. LMAO

Well, I would have thought & I'm sure Ross thought, well if we're close we don't need to spend alot. If we have talent like they say, coach it & win.

We're seeing the result.

Y'all will be shocked when we're 3-2 in a few weeks.

Good article Armando

I see the Dolphins winning no more than 4 games this season.Cleveland is one of my 'bankers'. If they lose this one..bad bad news,guys

This suck for luck sucks ...... and is really bad karma.

COWHER 2012

LUCK 2012

PLAYOFFS 2013

SUPERBOWL 2014

Has anybody mentioned that in game one the Dolphins on two drives were one yard and two yards away from the endzone and came away with 3 points? The second time, after turning the ball over on downs, the Dolphins "D" desperately had to sell out trying to sack Brady and allowed a 99 yard touchdown. Now, this coaching staff thought it was a good idea to get rid of Lousaka Polite who was money in one and two yard carries. If Polite was there to convert those two short yardage plays and the defense could play its base coverage, not allowing a receiver to get behind them, that is an eighteen point swing on a game they lost by fourteen. I'm not saying they win it—I'm just saying.

In game two against Houston they punt on fourth and one with eight and a half minutes left. Did I mention Polite was money on fourth and one? If I remember correctly, the rap on Polite was he couldn't block as well this year—but he might have already won one or two games for them as a runner.

PLAYOFFS!?!

You're talking PLAYOFFS!?!

Been saying since Feb. that they'll be 3 and 13, you all said I was a turncoat,Troll, Not a real fan....., Well welcome to reality..

I can see Miami beating Cleveland. They're the youngest team in the NFL right? Starting the most rookies I think...with a new coaching staff in a shortened offseason.

Now that I think about it, if Miami loses to Celeveland, I wouldn't even wait til the bye to fire Sparano. I'd fire him before he gets on the plane to fly back. Let him pay his own way back.

I've said my peace, but am fine not revisiting this topic until....after the Cleveland game. We win, and I'll sing a different tune (though I want to hear all those "we were supposed to lose to NE and Houston" folks saying, "well, didn't mean much, we were supposed to beat Cleveland.").

But if we lose to Cleveland, Lord help anyone who comes on here afterwards talking about keeping Sparano for the season. I will not be so diplomatic then my friends, take this as a fair warning.

keeping Sparano was our first (and also worst) move this offseason.
Now have to swallow it until the end of the season, because as Armando says there is no really credible alternative.
And come January we fire Ireland and Sparano.

DC, more importantly we have to hope that people don't view beating Cleveland as proof or evidence that the team is turning the corner.

Right around that corner is a lethal offense & we're packing the worst D in the NFL. I implore fans, a win vs. Cleveland MUST be put into perspective!

I think I agree with everything there that you posted.

But does that make Ross a really bad owner that we should blame all of this on him?

Or does that mean he is a rookie owner making a rookie mistake with Harbaugh and now keeping Sparano?

Does it show he might get it more than we are giving him credit for? He is claiming the team is not holding up their part of the bargain. Was the bargain, "Hey Tony, Yes I went to meet with another coach becasue I don't like what is going on here." tony's response, "I understand your upset so am I and Jeff, but I think we have a great plan and the pieces are available for us this year, give me a chance to show you on the field this year."

I know it is simpleton assumtions, but let's say that did happen, and now Ross is being public about his dissatisfaction...

Does that mean it is really the owner as the problem? I guess that is my only wonder about all the hate to Ross.

Anyway, you are right, no matter what happened we are see results of whatever it is, and it is piss poor.

By the way.

the "Suck for Luck" crew.

With the "Luck" this team has had over the last decade, even if your close to impossible dream does come true and we draft Luck.

You can bet he will walk out of MSG with his new Dolphin Hat on his head, cross a street and get run over by a Limo carrying Bill Fatcells to Ruth Cris steakhouse.

Breaking both legs and amputing his throwing arm, Just sayin.

Ross has to use the stadium the way he is planning because the team that should fill the stadium with fans doesn't. So, the criticism against doing so, is really an added criticism to the coach and his team. Firing a coach mid-season isn't meant to turn the team around during the season (as you suppose), it's to send a message to the fans that the Owner feels the same way and change is coming- they are already lost for the season.

LOL @ Poizen......

@poizen: yup, wouldn't surprise me. Damn Marino curse...

I really like Jon Gruden. Not sure he's the most logical choice, but I would be thrilled if he took over.

Cowher is most logical choice, but I just feel uneasy about him. He looks too comfortable to return to coaching. Gruden still has FIRE in his belly.

Anyone have a clue how last year's #6 defense goes to #32 this year?

We all thought Burnett replacing Crowder was an upgrade. WTF?

The odds of beating Cleveland with this Moron as head coach are limited. Picture this scenario - 4th and 2 on the Browns 38, down by 4 points with a minute and a half left and no timeouts, the "Fist Pumper" sends in the punt unit in hopes of getting the ball back. Go figure.

Poizen, I don't think he is a bad owner, but I do think he is part of the problem. I think his 1 mistake was the biggest.

Believing Sparano & Ireland! When they said they are close, they have talent. I mean Ross is a savy businessman. Knowing Sparano & Ireland were fighting for their jobs, he HAD to know these guys would do or say anything!

He couldn't see that?

The looming lock out will hinder a new FO & coach. Beliving they can transfer a slow plodding team into a fast explosive team in 1 offseason. And on & on & on.

How about understanding slow & big is not the norm in today's NFL. His team was being built to compete in the 80's, not the 2000's.

I'm hoping he's just gullable rather than loyal. But, sadly, either way Miami loses.

Take Ireland and his rotten acorns to while we kick Spo out the door.

Mando I agree with you 100% all the fans that want the fins to suck for luck. Get reall
Tony gives us our best chance at winning right now

First off calling Ross "Mr. Billionnaire" is sophomoric at best.

The discussion has been what if we are 0 and 5 and not 0 and 4.

Yes you do dump the coach. An earlier poster captured it well in discussing that the Cowhers and Fishers of the world will clearly know this job is in play.

Nolan having a tough time doesn't mean you don't let him be the interim coach. It's about letting the fans know that changes are needed and coming.

It's symbolic but at 0-5 you better do something cause the playoffs are gone and every fan damn well knows it.

Joe, Gotta wonder how he made his Money....LOL

This is Armando doing his sugar coat for the Dolphin again. I can't believe there're someone who think it's OK to lose to good team. It means it's OK to be AVERAGE. We'll just compete with Cleveland, Oakland and whole bunch of other losers and lay down to good team. It's not just losing but the WAY this team lose. I mean we are out-played, out-coached for the last two games. It comes down to COACHING. I mean we can expect Ireland and Sporano's metality to be just "SOLID" (translate to AVERAGE) but not you or the fans. If you want this team to be .500 and worse, I guess you are OK with this.

Yes mikeoliver, with Tony at the helm we're sure to go 14 and 2 - no more losses this year.

Armando:

I have to agree to disagree... WE ALL KNOW HE WAS IN THE HOT SEAT TO BEGIN WITH...Wasn´t his friend JEFF and also ROSS team owner looking for a new COACH just this offseason, the truth its not all his fault but this is business and business is bad...

Yes it wont solve anything to fire the coach...


But there is nothing else to do that to build pressure to persue a better outcome...


Cheers,

Saw a Half filled stadium for game 2, Gotta wonder going 0 and 5 what that stadium will look like, Though watching a Marlins gamemight give you clue..

What's up fellas, been a while work has me globe trotting and nobody would believe were I am if I told them. I happen to agree with Mando on this but for another reason all together. I happen to think Nolan a great DC. He didn't get stupid over night, it's like Gary Stevens use to say about turning Chicken S H I T into chicken salad. If not Sapp then who? Carroll has been smoked up and down the field since the 1st. Pre-Season game vs. Atl. and when matched up against the T.E. in the slot Monday night was toast. The DB's haven't kept up there end including of course the starting duo. We have to go blitz happy and hope for the best to cover up the back end.

On another note most Interim HC's walk at Seasons end when not getting the job on a perminant bases. I believe Nolan to be a good DC but not the Head guy. Some just aren't cut that way or have the bravado for the post. I thought one of the things about Sparano was that he was hard nosed while not the sharpest tool in the box and I guess I was wrong judging from JT's very Joey Porter 2007 styled outburst which we all now led to the end of Cam.

I could see someone like Gruden working wonders with the O given how he turned R.Gannon's career around and made a S.B. Champ of Brad Johnson but you also have to be careful because he doesn't play nice and loves control which got him his ticket out of both Oak. and T.B. but if kept strictly in a Coaching capacity with Nolan running the D doesn't sound bad. The others are all more or less going to ask for control as well and it's worth noting that Cowher didn't run any FO aspect of the Steeler org. and neither did Fisher in Tenn.

I believe given the talent on the field at certain positions including depth then I would start by setting the tone and firing Ireland right away, if were going to talk about holding ones end of the bargain. Then at Seasons end finding a young and compotent league exec and moving from there with the Coaching staff and the questionable talent along the OL, T.E. as the most glaring in a host on the roster.

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