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So David Garrard saga wasn't about money

There is one side's story. There is the other side's story. And there is the truth.

And, here I am, stuck in the middle with you.

I am the idiot always trying to chase the truth while both sides often run for cover or tell different versions of the same story. Such is the David Garrard saga.

As you know, the common thinking as to why the Dolphins did not land Garrard this week is because they would not guarantee certain portions of his contract or would not meet certain contract requests. This version of the story comes from Garrard's agent who spoke with The Herald, the NFL Network and ESPN and gave that general accounting as the reason his client did not join the Dolphins.

[Update Sunday, Oct. 9: Garrard sure enough echoes these sentiments in an ESPN report meant to respond to this report. (Glad I could set thing in motion for the World Wide Leader). In the report, Garrar is quoted as saying the Dolphins "were not willing to guarantee me the kind of money that reflects a real commitment and what I believe would protect me from being cut twice in one season.]

This version, by the way, enraged Dolphins fans because it made their team look ridiculous. It made the Dolphins seem cheap. It made the Dolphins look like they had thrown in the towel on the 2011 season after losing four games and starting quarterback Chad Henne.

This version, I am now quite certain, is not accurate.

I am hearing from multiple team sources that, in fact, the reason Garrard is not on the Dolphins today has nothing to do with money. I'm told that if Garrard wanted his base salary guaranteed, the Dolphins would have done that. I'm told that although reports are Garrard would have played for $1 million, the club might have gone to three times that amount and "probably" paid it.

I'm told that the reason the Dolphins didn't get Garrard is, in fact, because he simply didn't feel like playing right now. Garrard apparently talked to the team and showed no great desire to play. He is, according to this version of the story, quite content sitting out this season, spending time with his family, and hitting free agency next March.

This version of things is obviously much more logical because it wouldn't make a ton of sense for the Dolphins to balk at paying Garrard $1 million guaranteed when his veteran minimum for signing is $910,000 anyway. I cannot see how any team would refuse to sign a good player because of the prorated portion of $90,000. That just doesn't pass the sniff test.

But here's the thing, neither does it pass muster that Garrard has turned into a total couch potato. So I did a little bit more digging, more pressing. And the next version of the story I was told is ...

Garrard sure enough wasn't all that enthusiastic about playing right now -- but mostly because the team that came calling has such little chance of winning as the 0-4 Dolphins do. If, say, the 3-1 New England Patriots suddenly lost Tom Brady and needed a starting QB, he'd be on a plane in a heartbeat.

[From the ESPN report: Garrard also sounds like a guy that I'm told got on the phone with Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland and himmed and hawed and didn't sound enthusiastic at all about playing in Miami. He speaks of his wife being 13 weeks pregnant (congrats, sir). He wonders if coach Tony Sparano is going to be fired in a couple of weeks. He speaks of not being familiar with a situation in which he comes in cold and is expected to help turn a team around. "I'm one man," he says.]

So yeah, Garrard sounds unenthusiastic about playing with Miami. You simply don't want someone on your team that isn't 100 percent certain he wants to be there -- particularly in these tough times.

So now that covers the gamut of explanations and counter-explanations why Garrard was not signed by the Dolphins this week. I'm not certain which part of all that is really, truly the truth. Again, the folks telling me this stuff don't want to offend each other, don't want to even contradict each other publicly although they do it for a living privately.

I don't care about any of that. I do care about this:

I'm now quite comfortable telling you money was not the reason the Dolphins did not get David Garrard. You can rest easy knowing that your team is not going around like a hobo offering a used toothbrush as payment to quarterbacks wanting million-dollar contracts for their services.

The Dolphins were, in fact, in the game financially on this one had it been a financial issue to overcome. It simply wasn't. At least not exclusively.

That is the truth.

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Well, I think I've been pretty coherent when you consider I've been sipping on Bourban since early afternoon

ValHalla!!!!


Posted by: odinseye | October 08, 2011 at 01:45 AM

Big surprise there.How's that liver of yours doing anyway?

ODEN,WHY YOU DRUNK SO MUCH,YOU DRUNKING SINCE EARLY AFTERNOONE,DID'T YOU WAKE UP AT 3PM?

ODEN,DID YOU GO TO THE BUFFETT OF KNOWLEDGE LOUNGE TODAY?

It was sad enough that Ross couldn't seal the deal for Harbaugh and lost out to the 49ers. Now the team can't even close for a player that doesn't even have any other suitors.

Embarrassing would be an upgrade.
They're officially pathetic now.

Jason Taylor for one deserves better.


Dude, You know you've been posting since 12:30 this afternoon?Dude get a life or take yours, but please leave.PLEASE.

Posted by: Coalition to ban Odineye | October 08, 2011 at 01:40 AM

12:30 this afternoon? Whose the high on now?

I've been posting here-UNDER ONE NAME-since Mando fired this place up! I like Mando and I love what he does, because I can remember the days before he came to cover the Dolphins.

But GOD help me if he's actually related to you and your retarded brother "Smalls".

Oops, I guess I am getting buzzed(ALRIGHT-FINALLY!)You always work midnight "Smalls".

Just out of curiosity what's your pet name for your big brother? You can tell me. I wont tell anyone, I promise ;p

PS: How's the knob shinning going? Mario in a good mood tonight?

Bhwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Not EVEN a ValHalla to you PUNK!!!!

That is my main point, Odin. This is the NFL. The most prominent athletes in the world are at the disposal of these teams. Some are worlds apart from the others, most are not. It is up to the GM to get talent; it is up to the coaches to utilize his personnel. It's like when Shula had Czonka, Kiick and Morris behind that monster O-line. He passed to pick grapes off the vine. When he had Marino, he passed because he could-stop me if you can. That was a great coach utilizing his talent. If Yatil Green and David Overstreet had not met with such dyer tragedy; well I digress. But look at what Jimmy did when he came in; he tried to make a silk purse into a plow horse. Just saying the team is as good as the coach can make out of the tallent provided.

WTF, You see people, this is what we're trying to get banned, This Idiot is out of control.Take my advice at 1:40.PLEASE.

DevilsAdvocate @11:00 PM

While it is a huge lame problem that teams rest players if in a good spot already heading into the playoffs, the NFL has not said even one thing about having them "Have to play their best" players and try to win all out.

Same goes for the tanking of a season or games in it to gain favorable draft position.

The thing the NFL will never be able to regulate is how hard players play, plays that are called, the NE style wink nod injuries, team motivation, morale etc.

In my opinion, when two guys that have their own jobs on the line decide to go into a season with a QB that has been suspect at best for 3 years and proceed to get NO REAL QB competition for him...that is "Tanking" in plain sight at it's finest.

Ireland and Sparano are suppose to have a have a clue in their positions. Pfft.

I believe the proposed 18 game schedule was meant to add that same "play hard" objective by converting phony baloney preseason games to important regular season games. This in light of the fact that the fans payed the same very high prices for the preseason games.

It kind of back fired when the fans didn't rally to the 18 game schedule like the owners and Goodell thought. It ended up being a sacrificial bargaining chip to get the CBA done.

In the end, I don't believe a lotto will add a huge, extra effort to play hard every down with all of a given teams best players.

I am sure some fans will like the lottery proposition but I agree with others...I would leave it.

Cheers,



Posted by: odinseye | October 08, 2011 at 01:45 AM


Big surprise there.How's that liver of yours doing anyway?

Posted by: Coalition to rid this blog of odineye | October 08, 2011 at 01:48 AM

My livers fine, thanks for asking. It's my Heart I'm worried about. Josie Schmoe broke mine today.

She won't take my calls and I think the Home Coming Dance is out of the question.

Bhwaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

I'm leaving, I'm leaving. Time to fire up the Telecaster and play my Josie Schmoe Blues Away!

Bottom's Up Be-atches!!!!

This guys in OJ land man.Odin, Get help please.

Badger,

Your preaching to the chior Brother. I couldn't agree with you more. My entire life of being a Dolphins Fan, I've never felt so lost!

I'm out man, gonna beat up on some Guitars!

ValHalla!!!!

Enjoy Odin, Dont get to loud or Debo's Hearing will go.Peace.

Luck will come here if he gets the chance to do so. Where would you rather be a millionaire ? Miami or Jacksonville ? Miami or Seattle ? Consider the teams that may have the first pick in 2013. Besides, Luck is a Republitard and the Gunshine State is run by Republitards and it has no state income tax. Luck could use his Stanford education and do considerable business here for himself and his daddy. Eli Manning's daddy wanted his son to play in Manhattan for finacial reasons outside of football. Miami, with its ties to N.Y. and South America is a city that's on the map. Raleigh N.C. just ain't.


This guys in OJ land man.Odin, Get help please.

Posted by: Coalition to rid this blog of odineye | October 08, 2011 at 02:09 AM


Man, I'm from Chicago and I grew up on the Eastside of Detroit(it was affectionately called "Little Beirut" back then). I not only survived, but I THRIVED in EVERY Ghetto East of the Mississippi! Including Jacksonville, Tampa and Miami!

OJ land my a ss! He's a punk!


Enjoy Odin, Dont get to loud or Debo's Hearing will go.Peace.

Posted by: Coalition to rid this blog of odineye | October 08, 2011 at 02:15 AM


ROTFLMAO! Debo hates it when I fire up the Marshall stacks this late at night!

My Pups do too Odin. Enjoy.

FYI...Wes Welker is an arse.

Doesn't say a lot for Miami now does it? Ross should be looking real close at this right now. He has a team where a player who has been cut by another team and is not working is offered a job. The guy views sitting at home better than coming to Miami. Yikes.

That means he simply doesn't trust the oline or the coaches to protect him from getting killed. He would rather wait for free agency next year. Talk about dissrespect for Miami. I think it is league wide.

Had Garrard joined the Dolphins, he would've started from scratch at week # 5. On the AFC East you can't win that way. I think Ireland got this one correct, signing Rosenfels to back up Moore. Bringing Garrard would be like taking an aspirin when the patient is on the intensive care unit.
I don't believe the Dolphins would try to lose on purpose to have a better place to pick in the draft. I could never see guys like Jason Taylor, Cameron Wake, Jake Long, Reggie Bush or Brandon Marshall giving chances. It's completely stupid to say the Dolphins are not trying to win. Was the game in Cleveland gifted to the Browns? I don't think so. Of course that doesn't mean the Dolphins are playing good football. They are playing 0-4 football.
To say the Dolphins are in "Suck for Luck" mode, seems like a thought that the fans take as relief during these sour times. On the 70s we had Griese, on the 80s and 90s Marino. Two hall of famers. We had Don Shula. We were not used to lose. It's understandable that Miami fans dream on having a great QB once again, but at this time, what we have is what it is.
One last thing...if the Dolphins are to win a game this season PLEASE let that game be VS the Jets...

LET'S NOT MISS THE POINT HERE - Garrard had every right to balk at this team, and I don't blame him. EVERYONE in the league, I'm sure, is aware of how incompetent and shady the team management is. I WOULDN'T BE TOO EXCITED ABOUT playing for an 0-4 team going nohere EITHER! It goes to show, that if ross/ireland would have paid for the right players from the beginnning THEY WOULDN'T BE IN THIS MESS! IT ALL COMES BACK TO ROSS/IRELAND's INCOMPETENCE.

HE SUCKS ANYWAY.

MY SOURCE TOLD ME HE WAS RELEASED BECAUSE HE WAS A THIRD STRING QB.

I'M GOING TO PROTEST ON WALL STREET TODAY WISH US ANDREW LUCK.

WE MUST GET OUR COUNTRY BACK ON TRACK.

THE PREZ CAN'T DO IT ALONE.

THE REPUBLICANS WOULD RATHER KILL EVERYONE THAN ALLOW HIM TO HELP THOSE IN NEED.

TO MANY JOBLESS.

TO MANY HOMELESS.

TO MANY WHO DON'T CARE.

IT'S NOT THE DEMS AGINST THE REPS.

IT'S US AGINST THE WORLD!!!

U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A

not many players,even unemployed ones,want to come here with our coach/gm/owner.

I am sure Ross big plan is to move the franchise to LA (less fans during games = move).

Ross was absolutely correct in trying to sign Jim Harbaugh last year as evidenced by how good SF is being prepared every week. If Brady Hoke is the real thing you can bet Ross will consider him.

Why would a Lotto make a player play harder? Can somebody explain it? Besides, if the League is resorting to these artifacts to make the players play their best then Football is in deep trouble.

I agree with what somebody mentioned above that bringing in Garrard to start 5 weeks into the Season would have bad move, he doesn't know the system, the players, the timing; even if he had wanted to play here.

The Dolphins have a system?

Dear Mr. Salguero

Some people think that Mr. Ross will move the team to L.A.

The Miami Dolphins were formed in 1965....so thats 46 years of being the MIAMI DOLPHINS.

Now because some BILLIONAIRE owner is not making enough money off of the MIAMI DOLPHINS he will change there future history for a few more dollars.

My heart goes out for the Billionaires off the world not making enough profit.

One of the many things that are wrong today


Soiled :)

The fact is Garrard made an awful lot of money for being mediocre QB and doesn't have to jump at every chance that comes his way. He will probably sign for a contender where his mediocrity can be better hidden than the Dolphins.

Being able to watch both Moore and Henne in the same game, except for the arm, Moore is the more proficient QB and afford us the chance to win more Games than if Henne was starting. If, and only if, this Season is on the level. My opinion.

One new fact that might prevent Ross from moving the Franchise if he really wishes is that Miami's Construction business is beginning to take off.

OSCAR TELL US WHAT FOOTBALL WAS LIKE IN THE 30S.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtoJDtU3UDs

have you guys seen this video about the dolphins going 0-4

hahahahha lmao this thing is hilarious

its say everything we want to say

i thought it was pretty witty

One does not move a team simply because they want to. There are a few teams that could be eyeing moves, but currently only one possible destination, LA. Most likely San Diego will move there based on widely reported news. Also consider LA has already failed twice in keeping a football team there. I don't see Miami losing the team anytime soon.

Talk of moving the team is just that, talk, with no foundation in being remotely realistic at this point in time.

DevilsAdvocate,

it seems that it's just one poster who, with various names, insists on pushing the silly move story- hasn't done such a bad job.

Posted by: oscar canosa
"You still don't answer my question, NY "G". What is your opinion on the League allowing Teams to tank their seasons. What's your Fear, do you work for any of them? It's only opinions here, you know?"

Oscar,

If i worked for an NFL team I would love for it to be the Fins so that i could fire the GM and HC and for once listen to what fans are saying as many, many on here have GM quality and HC quality advice.

But to answer your question of which I thought I already did last night...

First of all I don't rep the NFL or any team, I am just like all the rest on here offering my insight and opinions.

The NFL should do what it's allowed under their rules to punish if the rules allow that any NFL team that purposely TANKS for draft picks. If there are no rules specifically against THAT, I am sure they will come up with one as we all seen.

Tanking is to me unsportsmanlike. The Fins are tanking all by themselves naturally. They just are a perfect image of their leadership.

The Fins don't have any vision or leadership. They have a HC and staff and GM and Owner that are ALL still wearing diapers.

Hope I answered your question.

I too heard the lottery talk this week but don't think it's something that could go into effect this year.

Looking forward to watching Landry Jones play today.

No doubt Miami is a Fun City, more so know, Downtown, with the giant Hotels-Casinos complex being built and Marlins Stadium to open next year. Is there space for Football down here, with the Stadium being so far away as to be almost in another County? Hmm..

Thankyou very much, NY "G". I agree.

Look how successful the Marlins have been while playing at Joe Robbie Stadium, even under Huizinga(the SOB disbanded the Team after winning the World Series) and Luria. Why? Anybody can take a guess? Mine is, I don't know, yet.

My observation is that, Football prospers in Cities that are "dead" entertaiment wise except for NY, and I have been to all of them(Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, NY, except to Boston).

Very hard to prove that a Team is tanking their Season, but, if by any chance it could be done, then they better be saying their prayers for they would go to Jail.

THAT IS TOO BAD FOR THE DOLPHINS IF HE HAD COME HERE HE WOULD HAVE HELPED WIN US A COUPLE OF GAMES HE IS DEFINITELY BETTER THEN ANYONE WE GOT.NOW HAVING SAID THAT MOORE MAY PLAY WELL, HE LOOKED OKAY THE ONLY PROBLEM IS HE IS STILL PLAYING BEHIND THAT AWFUL O LINE AND THAT IS NOT MENTIONING THE DEFENSE THAT CAN'T STOP ANYBODY, THAT SHOULD HAVE KEPT NATE JONES AND GOT RID OF CARROL OR R JONES THEY BOTH REALLY SUCK, AND DON'T HUSTLE TO THE BALL. I DON'T SEE HOW TONY CAN WATCH THAT AND NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT, AT LEAST PLAY WILSON HE GIVES AN ALL OUT EFFORT!!!!

THe losers in the back office should have drafted Mallet. short sighted nit wits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtoJDtU3UDs

HAHAHAHAHAHA AHAHHAHA LMAO

Rocko

If lesbian chit chat annoys you so much, I would suggest either not coming back here, or, convert to lesbianism and check it out. Just watching it from the sidelines is never as much fun.

seansmithsucks.com

tradeseansmith.com

sean smith 2011 follies continue

Smith gave up (2) TDs against the Pats TEs, (1) to Hernandez & (1) to Grokoski including the game winning TD

Dolphin lose

Smith has never made even one game changing play in 3 yrs
including against the Texans (who have never lost to Miami)

Dolphin lose

Smith was completely irrelevant against Josh Cribbs and the Browns
Smith gave up winning TD by Cribbs in the end zone
Smith could NOT go up and get the ball, was embarrassed by Cribbs easy TD catch

Dolphins lose

Smith to cover Vincent Jackson.
Jackson catches 55 YD TD in opening minutes of the game
Smith actually whiffs and knocks down our own safety Y-Bell tackling the wrong colored jersey and Vincent Jackson easily gets San Diego's longest reception TD of the season against Smith

Smith the allows a few more first down receptions by the Browns and follows up by interfering with another of our own players about to make an easy interception
Jimmy Wilson the rookie play maker is about to make an easy pick on Philip Rivers, BUT Smith runs back and dives at the ball, colliding into Wilson and knocks Wilson down, ball hits Smith in both hands and, .... drops to the ground

Dolphins lose


tradeseansmith.com

Saban was the supreme motivator, or so everybody thought. Unfortunately, his schtick seems to work only with the college aged crowd. So, it's just my opinion, and it doesn't carry any more weight than any other opinion that get's posted here, BUT, I'm really not interested in a college coach taking on the the fin's HC position, especially if the coach has not coached in the NFL and has not had to evaluate talent from the NFL perspective.

I want an NFL assistant who has had a lot of success as an assistant, knows how the entire NFL machine works, including the motivation of highly paid professional athletes, is recognized and respected as an assistant in the NFL, and is hungry to prove that he has what it takes to be an HC in the NFL.

And, I want that assistant to be an experienced
coordinator, not a glorified positions coach.

tradeseansmith.com

According to sources, big nose ross is stuck on getting luck, so most likely they will tank the season and hope they will be able to land him.

It is true that S. Smith has never made a game-changing play since his 1st year when he made that one-handed interception. With that long wingspan. Who can understand this?

Good luck getting work next year Gerrard. I'm sure teams are going to jump on an aging QB with no heart and doesn't want to be in a tough situation. Just the type of guy you want running the team, down by 3 with 2 minutes to go.

Espn.

Espn.

Same sources that said henne is done in miami and the only reason he had surgery is to be able to be ready to become a fa and go to another team. Good luck with that!

This "Fish" stinks from the Head down.......

What Ross needs now is to cut a deal with Disney World and top off the freak show in Miami..

What the F*!#... Get rid of the Dallas retards and
bring in a real coach and let him build a real team
and then go shoot yourself !!Between you and Wayne , the pair of you turds killed Miami as a football city. Go back to whatever you were good at!!! and give Miami a break!!

Landry jones looks awfully good and has seen much better competition than luck.

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