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All things Jeff Ireland following Sunday's victory

ORCHARD PARK, NY -- During yesterday's Dolphins victory in this hazy, cold town, I conducted an unscientific survey of my twitter followers (please follow me, if you aren't already).

I asked if people have confidence in owner Stephen Ross making a good head coach hire. It's a yes or no question. I also asked if people people have confidence general manager Jeff Ireland will make the right call on finding the Dolphins a franchise-caliber quarterback this offseason, another yes or no question.

Neither fared well. And, believe it or not, Ross fared better than Ireland.

Within the span of 30 minutes, 46 people answered "no," to the question Ross would get it right on the coach hire. Thirteen (13) peope said "yes," he would get it right. One person answered, "Hell no!" that Ross would not get it right. So not much confidence in Ross.

It was worse for Ireland.

Forty-one people said no, they have no confidence in Ireland getting the QB pick right. Eight said, "yes," Ireland would get the QB issue right. And five people said, "Hell no!" Ireland has no chance of getting it right.

So 49 of 54 respondents have zero confidence in Ireland.

I told Ireland after the game that folks simply don't have much confidence in him. He was somewhat surprised, asking me what people? Fans, I answered.

I tried to convince Ireland to speak to me, and thus to you, after the game. He declined. But I wrote about him and his situation in today's Miami Herald nonetheless.

Simply, Ireland is in a no-win situation right now. Most folks don't dig him too much. And, as I wrote, it doesn't seem to matter to those folks that Ireland picked Matt Moore and he's worked out. It doesn't matter that Ireland picked Reggie Bush and tha he has also worked out.

But, as I wrote in my column, the guy whose opinion of Ireland really matters is Ross. And I tell you in the column what Ross thinks of his GM. I also tell you what Ireland's exact role in the looming coach search is and how far along that search currently stands. I also tell you about the caveat that might get Ireland fired despite Ross claims that he is safe for 2012.

I have news for you on what the Dolphins think of their chances to get Bill Cowher and Jon Gruden. And I tell you why I believe Jeff Fisher is today -- even without an interview -- the leading candidate to get the Dolphins job. I also tell you who will lead the coach search -- no, not Ireland.

Please read the column.

But I must warn you if you are anti-Ireland: The column makes the point that however you feel about him now, you will definitely change your mind if the Dolphins get the right quarterback in the offseason. It is what it is. You folks are fans. And fans are a fickle what-have-you-done for me lately bunch.

Ireland gets the QB call right as a GM, he is going to be in a win-win situation for a long time. 

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Mathew,My Wife spends a lot of money each year., As a matter of fact the fins were 13 Million under the salery cap last year,What does spending a lot of money do excatly?, & and 9(At best)?Thoughts?

They got Moore right as a BACK UP QB, not a starter. Bush has been successful....so far.

What NFL team is the most successful over the last 3 years? The Green Bay Packers! That's where I would find my next coach, not some one who drafted Vince Young!!!

Lol YG, I Think Aloco said it best that Ross looks like "Droopy Dog", He does.LOL

I believe what's played a major factor in Bush's resurgence is his work ethnic. His former piers in New Orleans say they never seen him do the things he's reported doing in Miami. Like coming early and staying late.

These are definite signs Bush was unhappy not having a feature role in Neww Orleans. Thus being another factor in being often injured. He was probably in good shape in New Orleans, but, never in great shape there.

Being given a feature role, something he's always wanted, seem to have totally re-energize Reggie and his nfl career.

Yea Dead Fish,

Since taking a coach from a winning team ALWAYS works out...... (Josh Mcdaniels)

YG, Im Sure hanging with the Kardashian Ho had a lot to do with it.

BREAKING NEWS....Ross is the owner of the phins and will be for the foreseeable future. For all that want to abandon ship, do so now! Why wait?

I mean really....waiting to see how things turn out is the text book definition of a fair weather fan. If you're only going to be a "fan" if things get turned around...then chances are you're not really a fan at all.

With all things considered, Ireland had a chance to take R.Mallett but instead he traded up to take a RB who's always hurt, and this is the same RB who could not even get one stinking yard in the Eagles game and he had 3-4 shot at it !! I would have loved to see what Mallett can do instead of Moore, I'm a firm believer that with a top flight QB you have a greater chance of winning more games than to have a top 5 Defense.. Look no further than what the Chargers did last night to the Ravens ! P.Rivers is one of those top 10 QB in the AFC easily.

Wolfman,
Indy, Washington, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Cleveland, and maybe St.Louis are all a little bummed at their QB situation.
**St.L may take a chance if they get the guy that lights their fire, but I think it less likely.
**Cleveland has flunked out in the FA choices past years, so who knows, but McCoy isn't making them happy. and this is the best QB draft in years.
**Jacksonville is rapidly finding out that Gabbert is a wuss. Not sure what they'll do, but I know what I'd do.
**Buffalo had a case of premature satisfaction at QB. I suspect they'll stick one more year with FItzy, but bets are off.
**Wash has a penchant for signing FAs rather than draft, but again -bets are off. they defintely want a QB upgrade. Star if possible.
*We already know about Indy.

Im not saying we are absolutley 6-7 Qb picks behind, but it doesn't look comfortable at all. Nope.
Not meaningless wins at all folks.

We should be 11-3.

I believe Matt Moore could be a wildcard playoff calibre qb. But his inconsistency could be a crapshoot as to whether we moved to the next round or become one and done.

However, I still consider him an upgrade to Henne. Henne had many faults. Chief of these faults seemed to be "playing down" to the level of competition. You just cant coach that out of a player.

I never believed Henne could ever get us past 8-8 at best and still dont. I think Matt Moore could be a 10-4 to 11-5 qb. I just dont think he's a championship calibre qb.

I will always believe this about Moore until he prove he's "more".

I'm willing to set aside my contempt for Ireland for a moment. I'm willing to give him one more chance. The picking of a QB in the first round is a no brainer. Ross will instruct him to do so if he has any other stupid ideas. That's not the issue. What I think will be the most important factor for Ireland's success will be based on how well (or how high) he can position us in the draft.

Presently, we are in 10th place in the draft. We're going to have to leap frog several teams who may be looking for a QB. Can Ireland put together a smart trade deal with St. Louis, Minn., or JAX, for example? If he can't do this, then the discussion of which QB to draft is moot if Barkley and RG3 have already been gobbled up. Or can he bring in P. Manning for a good deal (assuming he's healthy and available)? In short, if he can't bring in a top QB, then he's dead to me as far as I'm concern.

FP4FG'S,

I doubt Kardasian had anything to do with Reggie's New Orleans performances. Good, bad, or often injured. I believe muc, much had to do with being offered so little, little.

Chief evidence of that is the re-energized work ethic, performance, and non injury thus far in Miami. His career in all areas is now doing a total 360.

Kardasian may be back on the horn asking Reggie can she make a comeback too.

cosmodo,

Are you also willing to set aside your contempt for the moment for a broken clock too?

You do know, even a broken clock's right twice a day right?

Cat lovers everywhere would tell you, dont clean the house without cleaning the "litter box". Clean the house and not the litter box and the house still stinks(Ireland)!

Keeping Ireland is like keeping a broken clock because you know it will be right at least twice a day. Enuff said.

LOL YG, Seems Reggies going North and the Kardashian Hos are going South. Just Saying.

Keeping Ireland is like cleaning the house and not the litter box. It still stinks! Enuff said.

JS -

I believe Washinton will take a QB. I don't think St. Louis is as down on Bradford as they are on the fact that he has zero O-line and no weapons.

He looked outstanding last season....to introduce another QB at this juncture would be to create a turnstyle at the position. They will build around him is my guess.

Cleveland hasn't had as rough a time with FA as they have with the draft. If they took a rookie here, it would be 3 rookie QBs in the last 5 years. The turnstyle approach will never work...but maybe they do go for it. My bet is still that they bring in FA. There's some good prospect in FA this year, unlike many other years.

Flynn and Hoyer are both top FA prospects at the moment. Many folks talk about these guys the same way they talked about Cassel and Shaub.

Jax....maybe si maybe no. it may depend on the new ownership, but I know the GM who drafted Gabbert just got an extension, so my guess is that he'll be inclined to stick with him. Again, another case where a QB has no weapons and no line....and completely lacking in defense to boot.

I don't think Buffalo is going QB either....but they're becoming my newest potential Joker in the deck. If they keep losing, they very well may go that direction.

FP4FG'S,

You get a Kardasian ho' when youre "hard up" for both press & puss.

They are the press & puss ho's. Kind of sounds like human blowup dolls! I wonder if they come with user friendly instructions?

CANT BELIEVE NO ONE'S TALKING ABOUT DREW BREES IS A FREE AGENT NEXT YEAR. LOL

DREW BREES WILL BE A HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER FA NEXT YEAR. HOWEVER I BELIEVE HE RESIGNS WITH NEW ORLEANS.

I never believed Henne could ever get us past 8-8 at best and still dont. I think Matt Moore could be a 10-4 to 11-5 qb. I just dont think he's a championship calibre qb.
I will always believe this about Moore until he prove he's "more".
Posted by: Yesterday's Gone | December 19, 2011 at 01:00 PM


Henne Will surprise a lot of people this year, just watch..

Posted by: Dying Breed| August 18. 2011 at 12:03pm

I'll take kardashian cooch even if its been beatin worse than rodney king.

"IF" AND THATS THE LARGETS IF, IN THE UNIVERSE. DREW BREES WERE TO SIGN WITH ANOTHER TEAM AND MANNING'S OUT OF INDY.

THAT COULD POSSIBLY CHANGE THE ENTIRE QB LANDSCAPE AFTER INDY TAKES ANDREW LUCK. IT'S GONNA BE ON HELLUVA OFFSEASON GUYS!

DREW BREES WILL BE A HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER FA NEXT YEAR. HOWEVER I BELIEVE HE RESIGNS WITH NEW ORLEANS.
Posted by: Yesterday's Gone | December 19, 2011 at 01:19 PM

Kinda Like the unemployed Sporono Huh??, Your a joke Breed, Follow Oden to sweden and get and get assitted Suicide. PLEASE.

Clue @ 1:21,

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gotta Wonder what I should do about a screen name now that Sporono's gone., Any thoughts?

Clue,

You're probably right. Kardasian cooch maybe the only thing in LA that's been beaten worse than Rodney King! LOL

How about, "1TD3FG'S"?

or

TD3FG's?

how about GTFOH?

Those "COOCHES" Have been beaten more then a egg at a waffle house IMHO.LOLOl, Bruce Jenner Must be upset that his "Adopted" Brood fered so badly., Oh well thats what happens when the Patricach has left the earth.(EG:Joe Robbie and the Fins).

We have a good tough football team, Ireland deserves SOME recognition for this. The defense has almost arrived, the offense needs a QB (maybe its moore).

GO DOLPHINS!!!

not sure why some fans have an opinion about the owner. I'm ALSO an Orioles fan and that owner hasn't given a c%#p what he puts on the field for 15 years. atleast Ross is trying turn turn this around thankfully.

Sometimes Liquid seeps out of my anus.

Under Henne the offense avg: 17.5ppg
Under Moore the offense avg: 21.8ppg

If Matt Moore's a backup, then Henne has to be a 3rd string nfl qb.

Peavey -

Mallett....top flight QB? Interesting indeed.

Never mind the fact that he was passed over in both the 1st and 2nd rounds in a draft that had QBs flying off the board.

Beyond that, he's not even the backup to Brady. He's the third team guy, carrying the clipboard and SHARING scout team snaps with the 4th string practice squad guy.

Who knows....maybe he turns out ok in the end, but I can ony imagine the fallout from the presser if the Phins would have moved up to take him in the 2nd:

Press - "Ireland...you moved up to take Mallett in the 2nd, it looks like you're really banking on him being the franchise QB you've been looking for."

Ireland - "Yeah..I think we have found a real acorn here. I mean...he's not really ready to go right now....he's gonna need some time running the scout team at practices for awhile....but we're pretty sure that 3,4,5 years down the road we'll have our guy"

Press - "so you don't even see him as the primary backup?"

Ireland - "Well, what you have to udnerstand here is that we're talking about an acorn...ummm....no....he's not quite ready to take 1st or 2nd team snaps at this juncture, but we really think he's going to develope into something special down the road...3,4,5 years."

Yup...that would have went over like a lead balloon.

I never believed Henne could ever get us past 8-8 at best and still dont. I think Matt Moore could be a 10-4 to 11-5 qb. I just dont think he's a championship calibre qb.
I will always believe this about Moore until he prove he's "more".
Posted by: Yesterday's Gone | December 19, 2011 at 01:00 PM

Henne Will surprise a lot of people this year, just watch..
Posted by: Dying Breed| August 18. 2011 at 12:03pm
Posted by: Dying Breed is a Flip-Flopper.com. | December 19, 2011 at 01:20 PM

Yesterday, What say you about this post?, Sounds like a "FLIP-FLOP" to me.

Henne belongs in the AFL.

In 10 starts More has lead the offense to a 21.8ppg avg.

IMO, an offense needs to avg at least 25ppg or more. With a year under his belt can Moore do this next season? The possibility is there.

However, we've been hoping this about several pot Marino qb's in Miami, still it hasnt materialized. Trade up baby!

wolfman,
second the notion on Mallett. I get sick of the folks that assumed that Mallett was the savior we passed on. Personally I like the crop of 3-4th round prospects this year than I like Mallett. He's Vanilla Ice with an arm, and less brains.
I really did want us to pick up a decent QB last draft (some of which are doing quite well), but not Mallett.

JS, How can you make that assessment about Mallet brains? Are you his doctor or did Mel Kiper tell you that?

odins liver aka "Sissy Krissy",

Henne did surprise, he was improved, just not in the area we "ALL" hoped for. That's redzone and 3rd down efficiency.

Good try though, you copy and pasted, erased then posted your own bs.

Where is Home?

its not what have you done for me lately.

parcells (coward), sparano (not qualified), and ireland (backstabber) had their chance.
they failed.
nothing going forward will erase that.
ireland should be fired.
its the rational thing to do.
ross is managing this team like a woman (not even georgia fontante would do something like this)

Spiderman,
Mallett's lack of intellictual qualities was well known throughout the draft season, and the playing season by pretty much all commentators, 'experts" and casual fans.
Not conjuring up anything new.
Plus, I'm an SEC homer, and watched him a lot. Poor on field decisions contributed to a team LOADED with NFL talent not paying off with any sort of SEC or national championships, ...but he can chuck the pigskin real good.

I think Ireland should get another year. He picked up Moore- good move. I don't know why we didn't trade for Orton, but that was a good move. He kept draft choices available for a move up in 2012- good move. Why so much love for Mallett when he hasn't proved anything yet? I strongly believe Ireland liked Locker above all other QB in the draft, it was clear from his post draft press interview that the QB he liked had long gone before the 15th pick. I also think the personel department has already done a monumental amount of work on this year's QB- I think they have a good chance of completing a good evaluation on this issue. Then it will be what must be given up to get the QB of his choice when everyone knows Miami will be moving up. That will be the moment to judge JI. Wjatever you think of him he seems better than everyone since JJ picked up JT and Maddison in the 97 draft.

Dead Fish, Fisher didn't draft Vince Young, it was the owners call.

As a matter of fact Fisher didn't want to start Young and the owner said he had too. That was the beginning of the end of Fishers time in Tennessee. The owner screwed that team, the guy is horrible.

You're not allowed an opinion on coaching candidates if you don'r know anything about them. You should read up some more bvefore coming to these conclusions.

I am glad we passed on Mallet...he can spin the ball real well, but lacks the intangibles that make a great QB

ireland may seem as though he came out of this loosing season on top, but if he is the one responsible for releasing lousaka polite, then he bares most of the blame for this loosing season. just as miami COULDN'T get a first down in short situations at philly, neither could they at buffalo and in any of their losses, yet they keep throwing away their third down oppourtunities by trying to run it as if lou was still here, and even in sporano's abscence they are still adiment in trying to succeed at this. is ireland calling the plays on third and short? let me get this straight, polite, who would get that first down 9 out of 10 times is released, since his departure the statistics for 3rd and short have to be the exact opposite, the percentage of success on this play has to be somewhere near .6% so why do we keep attempting it? maybe someday i'll brake down each of miami's losses in 2011 and come up with the stat that shows that LOU's abscence is directly responsible for our 3rd and short failures that led to these losses. i know it is a team game, but if you take a away a play that gives you a new set of first downs 99% of the time and replace it with an unsuccessful play that forces you to hand the ball over to a tom brady 99% of the time, then it is the abscense of that successful play that is surely at the root of this loosing season that has prooven game in and game out that miami CANNOT convert on third and short, and it is that person who made the decision to release lou polite who should NOT be in charge of personel

HEY FLIPPER BREED.....

When I want to CALL YOU OUT.....I WILL CALL YOU OUT UNDER MY NAME....JUST LIKE ALWAYS.....your paranoid on a blog...lol.....

Glad your thinking of me sweetie.....

But i'm not thinking about you.....Many on here can't stand your FLIO-FLOPPING and insulting post....just add ODIN's Liver to the short list of people willing to say somethin about it.....

Peavey, with all things considered Mallett hasn't even started a game in the NFL yet while Thomas is a top rookie running back.

He was hurt like many rookies around the league because they weren't allowed into team facilities or to even talk to coaches about what types of workouts he should be doing. There is a huge difference from college to pros regarding workouts.

Like the rest of the rookies in the league, Clay,Thomas, Wilson, and Pouncey had NO playbooks until three weeks before the season, didn't work out with the team, and didn't even get to know what was expected of them.

We all were warned that this season was going to be tough on rookies all over the league. That is why you see league wide injuries to hamstrings etc. Rookies around the league are finally getting healthy.

And do you really think there were holes to run through for Thomas in that game? Did you watch the game? It was like running into a brick wall. As opposed to the gaping holes Reggie ran through yesterday.

Can people at least try to be objective as well as educate yourselves before you comment? Don't some of you ever get tired of looking like know nothing idiots?

Hey Flipper Breed...


BOO....

Everyone around the league, people in the know, agree that Thomas has great skill, wonderful potential, and is top 2 in rookie rbs in the league, maybe even the best rook rb this season. I tend to agree seeing how he is rated as the #1 rookie running back in the league this season, 1 slot over Ingram.

But by all means lets scream about how he's a bust.

My knock on Thomas is that he does not "hit the hole" with authority!

You don't need training camp to teach this...you either have it, or not.

His instincts seem "slow" to me and he reacts a tad late in most situations...this can be corrected with good coaching and extended training camps.

I truly hope he is a force next year, but from what I've seen thus far, he's average at best and not worth the trade up to get him

not sure why people think fisher is gonna come to the phins and win. He didn't win consistently in 17 years in Ten who do you know he will here? It'll be a similar hire to shanahan in washington.

Jacquizz Rodgers
Roy Helu
DeMarco Murray
Kendall Hunter

All of the above have more yards than Thomas and seem to have more explosive speed.

I'm hope to see vast improvement next year with Thomas, but he has yet to really impress me as someone worthy of "moving up in the draft" to get.

NHFINSFAN what about the fact that he's the #1 rookie rb in the league this year even after missing time? How about the fact that every time the Dolphins play, no matter who the commentator is they always gush about him.

And "hit the hole"? Doesn't there have to be a hole in order to hit it? Even Reggie constantly has to jump horizontally on the line and take the edge when there is a play called up the middle. How many times have you watched him have to do that this year? It's how he's picked up most of his big runs.

Re-watch Thomas' runs yesterday and tell me which hole he could have hit. I'll tell you they didn't exist.

I'm just saying in a lockout year you can't fully judge rookies looking at it from a fans point of view. That's why I will go with the experts opinions on this one, they all say he's going to be a productive back. He has shown some great glimpses when given the opportunity and much like Ricky, he plays better when he's involved more. Takes him a little bit to get going good. And Reggie being the every down back isn't really helping his progression in the fans eyes.

"Thomas didn't do s**t"! Yeah no crap, he's our backup rookie running back.

More than half the posters here hated the Bush move, hated the Dabol hiring, hated the Moore addition, hated the Pouncey pick (should have gotten Mallet crew).. None will ever admit they don't have a clue on how to run a football operation. They also think good teams never miss FA or draft picks. It is what it is.. Too many Monday morning QB's expecting instant gradification, and refusing to admit when they were wrong.

Fact is Ireland has done well. Better than more than half the GM's out there. Fact is Dabol has our offense playing better than we've seen since Marino left. Fact is Reggie Bush can be a the focus back, and can run between the tackles.

And the biggest fact is most here don't know crap and refuse to ever admit they were wrong. That is why I read the comments here for entertainment only, if I want football knowledge I go elsewhere.

And my apologizes to the other half here that gets it.. You know who you are.

Fin4life.....

My work computer won't allow me to copy and paste in this site for some reason.....But in regards to your post to me on page 3 (i think)....

Your right....people celebrating the 17-0 accomplishment has zero effect on how this THIS TEAM...or any other....and while my post about Shula may be relevent to him...it is not relevent to all situations....

Having said that....

It doesn't change how I feel....(wrong or not)...its just one of those things that i don't like....I can't explain it....I can't rationalize it...and can't make it make sense to you....

All In can say is that I will be Happy when that recoord is broken.....

I will probably be the only one...but I will be....

Remember 07....and the FINS almost lost every game....

and after the Colts lost (i think)....there was Shula and his Merry Band of Former FINS....drinking on the 50 yard line....

It was all about them...and NOT about the team and its current woes....I hated that site...and I have wanted to see perfection from another team ever since....

but NOT the PATS....was hoping they would lose...

Than You Giants....

Hey Einstiens, Everybody and thier illigitimate kids knows that we can trade up. Its not a government ufo secret. Question is whether or not our cowardly fo actually do it? I dont place it past them to convince themselves Matt Moore is adequate. Isnt that what always happens in Miami?
Yesterday's Gone | December 19, 2011 at 12:41 PM

I have better question for everyone: Do you think ET is hiding the fact from his people that "humans" actually exist?

Yesterday's Gone | December 19, 2011 at 12:43 PM


Dying Breed,

You spend enough time here to read all the posts regarding our NEED to loose in order to draft the Q.B. of the future. I happen to be of the school of thought that we can maneuver on draft day in order to get that player regarless, that was my point, nothing more nothing less.

In 09 if you remember the Jets after finishing 10-6 (Favre 08) went from I believe pick 17 to pick 6 for Sanchez packaging up picks 1,3,5,6,7, and I for one have no problem doing it once considering how young our team nucleus is. I at one time thought the HELL with it loose them all and pick high in the next Q.B. friendly draft but have come aroung given the character the team is showing in the midst of another losing Season.

By the way my BRAINIAC AMIGO the word THEIR is spelled like I just wrote not THIER and in the repost I didn't put up paragraphs because when I copy and paste my computer puts everything together and I'm to lazy to go back and do it.

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