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Dolphins concerned about capacity at Sun Life Stadium

The Dolphins visited The Herald offices Friday as part of a tri-county tour of the newspapers serving the region the team claims as its own.

During the meeting with Herald reporters club president Mike Dee, general manager Jeff Ireland and coach Joe Philbin discussed as openly as they felt comfortable issues of interest. The football aspect of the meeting is covered in this story that discusses, among other things, Miami's plan to use both the 3-4 and 4-3 scheme on defense in 2012, according to Philbin.

On non-football matters, Dee took the questions and discussed a coming Super Bowl bid by South Florida, stadium improvements, and other matters. And in discussing the need for stadium improvements, he mentioned the possibility that capacity at Sun Life Stadium needs to be adjusted.

The reason for that is, well, the Dolphins think the place is too big.

"We have the furthest distance from the sidelines with our lower bowl in the NFL," Dee said. "We have the fewest number of seats in that lower seating level between the 20 yard lines, between the goal lines, in the NFL. Not just the facilities that compete for Super Bowls. We've got to fix that ...

"At the same time, we may look to amend capacity in areas where we may have too much. Right now, we have the largest upper deck in the NFL -- 35,000 seats. The next facility in line is 27,000. The Redskins took 10,000 seats out of their upper deck this past year. We're looking at all those things to retrofit the stadium to today's standards."

That creates something of a problem for the Dolphins. And here it is:

The best way, the right way, to fix the capacity issues Dee mentions is through construction and refurbishing Sun Life Stadium. There's nothing like taking seats out of the upper deck that is too big. There's nothing like adding seats in the lower bowl that is not big enough. That is the optimal approach.

But that costs money. And neither the legislature, nor local politicians are volunteering to pay for that. The public would likely vote down a ballot measure for such expenditure. And owner Stephen Ross is in no hurry to spend the multiple millions of dollars it would cost to do the project.

So the reconstruction idea doesn't seem workable.

What's next?

Well, I don't know how the Dolphins would add seats in the lower level without actually adding seats physically, but they can definitely adjust the numbers of seats in the upper deck without actually touching the place. They can simply ask the NFL to consider certain seats basically invisible. The Dolphins can just lower capacity by giving the NFL a new capacity number and then not selling, say 10,000 seats in the upper deck, for at least one season.

Other teams -- Jacksonville for example -- have done it. Unable to fill an extreme number of seats, the Jaguars just threw a tarp over whole sections of seating. The Hurricanes do it at Sun Life for their home games. The Miami Heat did it for a couple of years before LeBron James and Chris Bosh joined Dwyane Wade on the roster and seating demand skyrocketted.

The Dolphins can simply pick out a section of seats and cover the area. Or they can just black out certain seats or sections from being sold and those would simply be empty on game day.

All of this, by the way, affects you -- the ticket buying customer.

You see, as the Dolphins figure a way to attack this problem, the capacity of the stadium hangs in the balance. If the club is successful in lowering that capacity, either through construction, putting a tarp over sections of seats, or simply blacking out seats electronically, then achieving a sellout becomes easier.

Games are on TV!

You get to watch!

If the Dolphins don't find a way to lower capacity, and the tickets go unsold, the club would have to make a decision whether to rescue local TV-watching fans -- as it did multiple times in 2011 -- by purchasing its own tickets.

I have news for you: The club really doesn't love purchasing its own tickets. No business wants to buy its own product. It is not profitable. And that might lead to a decision not to purchase the unsold tickets. And that means ... no games on TV!

Your Sunday is ruined :(

So the looming decision on how the Dolphins address their stadium capacity issue, particularly in the upper deck, is a big deal to folks who watch the games on TV -- which happens to be a majority of fans. If capacity isn't decreased or ticket sales boom, the club may decide purchasing its own tickets is not a practice it wants to continue.

Blackouts ensue. Not good.

(Oh, one way to solve this without changing capacity? Sign Peyton Manning. Not advocating. Just stating logic.)


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So, barring a major trade up, Luck and RGIII are out of reach.

Realistically, probably, Blackmon too(still holding out hope).

Richardson and Rieff don't appear to be favorites around here either.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...........that leaves Coples(DE), Kirkpatrick(CB), and Kuechley(MLB).

The thing I ABSOLUTELY LOVE about Coples is that he can be an every down player. He's rare in that he can play end in a 4-3 and the 3-4. To top it off, he's played inside at DT(at a high level)throughout.

Kuechley is a straight up FREAK. The best MLB prospect to come out in YEARS! It wouldn't be the most sexy pick, but if the 4-3 is really going to be our BASE D, I would happier -n- Shyt!

Kirkpatrick would definitely be an upgrade. I'm just not sure it's a big enough need to warrant spending out 8/9 pick.

So barring a miracle(RGIII or Blackmon), it looks like our Defense will get the benefit of this pick. I can live with this, I want one of these playmakers. I don't to trade down and play the safe acorn games!

Get us some PLAYMAKERS!!!!

Coples at LDE(initially), Wake at RDE. Brady in the Middle! I could live with that.

Agree fully with those D picks Odin Coples or Kuechly are immediate impact starters on D. I think I like Kuechly more becuz of intagibles. Dansby and Burnett move outside. Wake and Misi go back to DE and we might have something. Special up front w/ D. Starks. Odrick and T McDaniel could play inside.

Ireland's not going to pick anyone good.

If Richardson is available it'd be hard not to pick him but D Thomas should be good enough and Bush has proven himself worth his contract so I don't see them taking RB. But Richardson is a freak.

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But I feel your service's are still needed

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Some people believe Tannehill to be worthy of a top 10 draft spot as well. It's more of a gamble than Locker but I think he has some ability there that we haven't seen yet in his college career at QB. Sherman coming in also would know if he is a guy worth building around or not. I'd like to see Ireland work magic and trade down if that is the route they take though becuz 8-9 is a lil high.

Not sure which is worse---the amateur art critic who tries to impress people with explaining the 'intent' of a painter, or the 'draft expert' who has never been any closer to a single one of these kids than their TV set and uses terms like "field awareness" and "explosiveness" because parroting the talking heads on ESPN is the entirety of their "expertise."

Is anyone stupid enough to take either one seriously?

Other then Andrew Luck, its a bad year for QB's.

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Starks. Odrick and T McDaniel could play inside.

Posted by: Beerphin | January 29, 2012 at 01:50 PM

The thing I like about Starks and McDaniels is that they both have played really solid inside and out. The versitility in this instance can't be underated.

We may have no choice in taking Kuechley as Coples could very well be gone by our pick.

Picking one over the other is a toss up. It just depends which direction your thinking. Coples will shore up the pass ruch, Kuechley will SOLIDIFY the Linebackers.

It would be hard for me to take one over the other. So, I'll be just as happy either way.

Kuechley reminds me of a Bigger/Faster Zach Thomas! What's not to love about that?

PS: And NO, it's not just because he's white-LOL.

Is anyone stupid enough to take either one seriously?

Posted by: rice stadium | January 29, 2012 at 01:59 PM

Is anyone stupid enough to hang out in a place they **SUPPOSEDLY** don't like?

Is anyone stupid enough to hang out on a blog with a bunch of people he **THINKS** are stupid?

It's what we do here. You don't like it, Kick Rocks Honky! Simple as THAT!

Exactly what I thought about Kuechley plaus 191 tackles 111 solo doesn't hurt. He has the best football instincts I've seen in a long time

I hear he is bulking up and has put on close to 20 lbs of muscle as well and is working on his speed

I'd go Kuechley becuz of the depth we already have on the D line even if we do lose Soliai and Langford. WE still have a good group of guys

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Posted by: SoiledBottom | January 29, 2012 at 01:55 PM

MYOB - Puddle Pirate!!!!

Some nice highlights



You forgot to mention they often talk to themselves, pretending others are reinforcing their point.

PS: Geronimo! You MYOB and STFU TOO!

Not drafting a QB last year was insane.

NICE @ 2:37

He gets turnovers he gets pressure and He'd be an upgrade over Dansby at MLB sorry to say it but Karlos has lost a step he isn't as fast as he used to be. Better suited as an ROLB in a 4-3 like when he was in Arizona

Another great highlight reel This kid will be a leader on D for years to come


Do any of you believe your expert analysis would not be laughed at by any GM?

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Nice...I see what you did there :)

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Anybody think Kirkpatricks Marijuanna possession charge will hurt his stock?

It makes me question his intelligence.

I'm not sure what the rookie scale is, but one simple charge like this could get VERY expensive.

I mean, I like to "Commune with Nature" myself, but at what cost? C'Mon MAN!

I think Kirkpatrick will fall to 20's and someone will snag him cuz of it.

It would be laughed at by anyone with an ounce of common sense, let alone a professional.

Hey, it's harmless. If they actually want to think they have some special insight or aren't just parroting the pablum they're spoonfed on ESPN, let them have their fun.

It's not as if anyone with an IQ above "bran muffin" would take it seriously, anyway.

Please, more about "field awareness" and "hip pivots" and "explosiveness through the gap," etc.

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Jake Long does not have the hip swivel to be an effective LT.

odinseye, that's pretty funny. I'm glad I read some posts this morning or I never would have known Armando mentioned it. Thanks for pointing it out.

The problem was I read the headline "Dolphins concerned with capacity at Sun Life Stadium", fell asleep before I finished the sentence, and then never read the article due to my fear of another Herald induced narcoleptic moment.

Now I'm glad Armando wrote a couple of sentences about the FACTS but I'm amazed after so many years of opinionated pieces regarding Dolphin media policy he only briefly mentioned the change. I don't mean to whine but have been listening to whining from the Herald for so long I suppose I took up the bad habit.

I just hate that when something bad happens everyone at the paper works over time to make sure that it is covered in every freaking corner of the paper. And when the Dolphins do something like make Reggie Bush an every down back there is an enormous wave of negative comments and opinions from reporters.

Then Ross sees something that is bad for fans,reporters, and the team, (something brought on by Saban and popularized by Parcells), changes it and does a "we're going to be more accessible" tour and it gets glossed over in a blog about %*$#% STADIUM SEATING!!!??? Come on already. Puhlease.

Phins78--I would call that NOSE OIL! Do you know what I mean, lol. The ALMOND KIND, LOL!

Neotrogena Jones has amazing hip swivel explosiveness. He would be an instant starter in a 4-3 scheme, and brings great field awareness, intensity, initial burst, and a bunch of other things I heard a guy on ESPN say sbout him.

I have a television and he is great.

I am Kirby Dar Dar's dog Barfy Bark Bark.

The problem was I read the headline "Dolphins concerned with capacity at Sun Life Stadium", fell asleep before I finished the sentence,

Posted by: Phins78 | January 29, 2012 at 03:09 PM

No need for any explanations.

I read the first line(of Mando's post) and laughed so hard I almost choked.

To be honest, the mention of this new openess was so brief, I didn't realize we were even still on the same blog. I scrolled up to see which prior post it was on.


May our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ hold you in His palmn and anoint you with His Healing Oils.

Jake Long's career is in jeonardy. 5 different injuries? YIKES!

lol yeah maybe tannehill can get sherman fired again


May our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ hold you in His palmn and anoint you with His Healing Oils.

Posted by: King Nipsy Russell | January 29, 2012 at 03:26 PM

What's with this "OUR" stuff?

Lucifer's Minions in Rome **ATTEMPTED** to force Chritianity on MY people YEARS AGO!

It didn't workout too well for them, now did it?

"WE" don't want to go there.

lol yeah maybe tannehill can get sherman fired again
Posted by: dusty bottoms | January 29, 2012 at 03:30 PM


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True Dat!

Football is a dumb game, if you think about it.

And how is it a wimpy kicker can make or break a game fought by giant dumb ill-mannered rejects that wouldn't otherwise rise above stocking shelves at the warehouse?

Tannehill is raw but has tons of potential

Please, no religion.

That only leads to Politics.

I'm not in the mood for fairy tales.

Let's talk about trading up for RGIII(snicker, snicker)...................

What would Ray Lewis being doing right now if it wasn't for football? Robbing old ladies for his coke fix.

Ditto for 80% of NFL slugs.

Anybody that thinks Football is a dumb game didn't play it or Coach it obviously.

It ain't Rocket Science for sure. But Dumb? Ah.................NO!

no thanks on tannehill

Dumb. Sure there is strategy. The premise is dumb. Basketball, tennis, hockey, soccer are somewhat logical. Football and baseball, the whole premise is dumb. Baseball doesn't even have 10 minutes of combined action in a 3 hour game. 10 or more guys on the field and rarely are more than 2 doing anything. Sure, there is strategy, both dumb games.

What would Ray Lewis being doing right now if it wasn't for football? Robbing old ladies for his coke fix.

Ditto for 80% of NFL slugs.

Posted by: Rodin | January 29, 2012 at 03:48 PM

Oh man! This ain't right Bro. You couldn't be more wrong!

He wouldn't be robbing old ladies.

Come on Man! You know as well as I do, that Brother would already be in PRISON!

How many kids grow up wanting to be a Right Guard? 0. Only the freak show big dumbos do it rather than bag groceries.

Not only is it pretty dumb (agreed) but when you think about it, what is the point? Why does it matter one iota whether this team or that wins or loses?

It's not as if 99% of the Earth is even aware of these games---or gives a crap.

I think I'm done with football. It IS pointless!

Field goals and extra points are stupid too. They make no sense.

Only the freak show big dumbos do it rather than bag groceries.

Posted by: Rodin | January 29, 2012 at 03:56 PM

Hmmmmmmmmm.................let's see, bag groceries or make Millions?

And you're calling THEM Big Dumb Freaks?

How many Millions have you made so far?


It's even more pointless because teams are illusions. Players swap teams so much only the uniform doesn't change. This year your enemy is next years FA acquistion.

It's all beyond stupid. And, it only exists to sell beer. That's why beer commercials are so stupid with stupid dorky guys, because...that is the fan base, mostly.

How long can it go on? It's beyond meaningless.

Yes, dumb freaks, of course they do it for the money. My point, which has bypassed you, was without football, the vast majority would be stocking shelves at the warehouse or driving forklifts.

It's not as if 99% of the Earth is even aware of these games---or gives a crap.

I think I'm done with football. It IS pointless!

Posted by: reg | January 29, 2012 at 04:01 PM

I think Amhueser Busch and The Ford Motor Company disagrees.

They don't spend all that advertising money to reach 1% of the world's population.

Don't you hate it when FACTS get in the way of complete bullshyt?

True, Rodin.

And think of the kind of beer that is being sold. Watered down, flavorless crap like Budweiser, Coors, and Miller that these conditioned drones have been mesmerized into thinking is a quality product.

You are quite correct the NFL is simply a vehicle for advertising. It has no other intrinsic value whatsoever and the outcome of these games should not be "important" to any mature and emotionally stable adult.

They don't spend all that advertising money to reach 1% of the world's population.

Don't you hate it when FACTS get in the way of complete bullshyt?

Posted by: odinseye | January 29, 2012 at 04:08 PM

You are seriously out of touch with reality if you think the NFL garners more than 1% of the worlds attention. Seriously.

You making a point?

Bypassing me?

ROTFLMAO-At least you've got a sense of humor.

Additionally, I think Freud would have a FIELD DAY breaking down the psychological implications of grown men obsessing over athletic young males in spandex pants and appraising their athletic gifts in almost lustful terms!

the NFL is simply a vehicle for advertising. It has no other intrinsic value whatsoever and the outcome of these games should not be "important" to any mature and emotionally stable adult.

Posted by: reg | January 29, 2012 at 04:10 PM

That is so true its funny the way you put it.

Reggie Rodin talking to self about why him no like feetball.

I thought you said you were done with it?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, that doesn't quite explain why you're still on a **FOOTBLL** blog.


I'll be back when Troll goes out to score some more "STUFF"!

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