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Judge the information with a grain of salt

Don't believe everything you read. Don't believe this blog, the websites, the pundits or so-called insiders on ESPN, NFL Network or other networks, either. Take it all in with a grain of salt when it comes to this Dolphins coaching search.


If you've been paying attention you've noticed a lot of good people have been feeding you a lot of bad information.

At this time last week, the NFL Network had a report up all day that Jeff Fisher was about to take the Dolphins coaching job. How'd that work out? I was told Fisher would decide by last Wednesday, but he didn't come in with a decision until Thursday. (The decision was leaked Friday.) Other local publications have been off the reservation as well, with one reporting Fisher never spoke to the Dolphins once his decision was made.

In truth, he called Jeff Ireland personally and told the Miami general manager he wasn't coming.

And then this: Over the weekend every network reported one candidate or another had a great interview with Miami. ESPN and FOX have said Joe Philbin wowed the Dolphins. NFL Network said Mike Zimmer blew the team away.

If these guys were so awesome, how come the interview process continues, with Denver offensive coordinator Mike McCoy on the interview schedule within the next couple of days? How come the team still wanted to hire Jeff FIsher?

All I'm saying is this so-called inside information comes from one of a couple of sources: the agents representing the coaches -- the ones the Dolphins tell not to speak to the media -- or Jeff Ireland or one of his Dolphins minions. All of them have an agenda. The agents want to drum up good tidings for their clients. Ireland and the Dolphins want to make it seem like this search is going exactly as planned without hiccups and that all the candidates they've indentified are the most incredible leaders since Patton.

The truth is all the candidates the Dolphins have so far interviewed either didn't make the playoffs or got bounced from the playoffs by teams and coaches staff that apparently did better work. No one on any of the NFL's top four teams -- New York Giants, San Francisco 49ers, New England Patriots or Baltimore Ravens -- has interviewed for the Miami coaching job.

Think about that: Those four are the NFL's best teams this year as defined by the fact they have reached the furthest point in the season still alive for a Super Bowl title. And not one coach on those most successful teams has been reported to be on Miami's radar. Amazing.

Meanwhile, reports that defensive coordinator Mike Nolan is bound for one place or another have to be met with a grain of salt, too. Nolan is indeed a valuable coach. And he is on the radar in New Orleans and Atlanta. But he's valuable in Miami as well. And he's under contract. And no one is asking to interview him for a head coach vacancy.

So the Dolphins can hold him back until they are certain he will or won't be on their staff. If the Dolphins give the job to an offensive coach such as say, a Philbin or McCoy, the chances are good they'd like to retain Nolan. If Zimmer, a defensive coach who likes the 4-3 and not the 3-4, gets the job, the chances are Nolan will go elsewhere.

The only caveat to Nolan staying is his state of disappointment over not being interviewed for the Dolphins head coaching job. I hear Nolan is not too happy about the apparent snub. And so the Dolphins might be forced to let him go because no one wants an unhappy employee.

But I doubt the Dolphins are so dumb as to allow Nolan to cruise on down the road without them first knowing which direction they're going. So as to the reports Nolan is on the radar in New Orleans and could be hired soon ...

Take the information in but judge it by what you see. Plus, I still believe his more likely landing spot is Atlanta.


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#1 In order to win a SUPERBOWL, you must be able to put up points. In order to put up points, you must have some STUDS at the skilled positions. While it is surprising both the Packers and Saints are out, the remaining teams all have STUDS AND good defenses (with the exception of NE which has a poor overall defense and had a very easy matchup with overachieving Denver).

Posted by: IrelandSucks | January 16, 2012 at 09:27 AM

Agreed. That's why I said you still NEED to be able to score points. Yes we do need studs, how long have I been screaming Marshall needs help?? Hartline and Bess aren't the answers. Neither is Mustrud. Having said that, defense is STILL VERY IMPORTANT. Look at all the STUDS the Saints and Packers have and now they're getting ready to play some golf...

Just because teams were eliminated from the playoffs or didn't make the playoffs doesnt mean their coaches are all of a sudden inferior to the coaches on the teams remaining! That is about the dummbest logic around. The final four teams are where they are because the players executed better on the field! There is not one coach on the remaining 4 teams that would do any better as HC than the coaches now available, just because they reached the conference championship!

Here's the trade so everyone can understand.

We gave up.

5 & 7

We switched our 3 for their 2. We always had the 3, we just exchanged our 3 for the their 2.

Interesting, as Patrick Turner was catching balls in NY I was thinking to myself why did we let the kid go...

Posted by: ESPNsucks | January 16, 2012 at 11:47 AM

The Patrick Turner that made 8 catches for 96 yards all season for the Jets? That Patrick Turner? C'mon people...

If we don't improve our pass rush, Brady will keep on killing us...Won't matter how many studs we've got. We have to do what the Giants did to him in that SB game. We need more than Wake. Pass rusher is the 2nd biggest need in my opinion.

IrelandSucks, Big Paul may have to walk if he doesn't address his contract demands. We can't pay a nose tackle quarterback money when we have so many deficiencies in more important parts of the game. I'd rather spend the money on our pass offense or disruptive players in the pass defense than Big Paul. I'm a fan of his but being 3rd in rush defense doesn't mean much. Especially when you suck in pass offense, pass defense, and turnover ratio.

Did anyone watch the game yesterday?? Rodgers didn't have that much time...If he wouldn't be such an awesome scrambler he would of got sacked probably 8 or 9 times...That's what you need to do against great QBs...Bring on the heat...

Toronto, we switched our 3 for their 2. We didn't give anything up for the 3, we exchanged it for the 2. We improved our 3 for the 2. We gave up the 5 and the 7. We lost those picks. But the 3 was just exchanged for a 2 because we didn't have a second round pick. That second round pick went for Marshall.

3 picks for a backup RB?? WTF??

Maybe we already have the coach on the team. Nolan?
We could do a lot worse. Pickins are slim and rightly so, no one wants to work for Ross or Ireland. Seems Nolan could be a solid choice.

How old is Don Shula?

Ireland sucks,

I can meet you in the middle of your last post to me. I can see where you are coming from, I'm not convinced on Thomas and it will suck if we traded multiple picks away if he doesn't pan out.

The only last question I have thought is, what do you think we could have really gotten with the 5th and 7th round picks? Do we ever usually get good talent that late in a draft anyway?

When you say "the Dolphins would be interested in keeping this guy or that guy on" is a bit off base. The question will be who is doing the hiring of the assistants. I don't know whether Zimmer has any relationship with Nolan or Philbin with Daboll, but whether they do will have a lot to do with who stays and who goes. Normal protocol (except for Al Davis), the HC does his hiring after he himself is hired... You're right tho that the fate of the Miami assistants is certainly in limbo at this time. Bowles is interviewing for a HC job, so they likely won't hold him back, as again is protocol. Either way this goes, the HC will have a lot more input on who stays and goes. The bottom line, is that while this group has some talented ass't coaches, this group is 34-31 in 4 years, save for Daboll, who is 6-10...does that make them worthy to be retained ??

Michael, so we still have the 3rd pick then? Deferred until next year?

We ended trading our 5th, 7th, and 3rd to get a second.

Jiminy crickets!!

I can't explain it any more clearly.

Michael, you're a friggin moron, sorry kid. You are saying we gave up a 5th and 7th for nothing, then someone was gracious enough to give us a 2nd for our third?


#1, Your right a pass rush is crtical in stopping a good QB. Rodgers look flustered yesterday.

..What does someones political affiliation have to do with an opinion of Danial Thomas?? There has been some asinine statements made here the last couple of days..The one about being a Democrat if you support the Thomas pick..Or Republican if you disaprove takes the cake..Are we in kindergarten??

Toronto we only gave up 2 picks. Id we had 7 picks in the draft after the trade we would have had 5 picks. the 3rd pick was SWITCHED for a 2. We didn't have a 2nd round pick. Our total picks decline by 2 not 3.


If they went from 4-12 to 6-10 to 8-8 I'd be optimisitic. Miamis gone from 11-5 to 7-9 to 7-9 to 6-10! Where is the optimisim? In your imagination? Wake Up!!

Mark, LOL!!! By the way, how cold is it down there? God I miss Toronto...It's fu*****g freezing here in Montreal...Like -24C or something...Without the wind!! Brrrr....

Mark in Toronto, don't be a moron, we switch our 3 for their 2. We didn't lose a pick by switching. If you don't want to try to understand, or are too obtuse , that's fine.

Why all the Daniel Thomas talk?? He's not a bad player, but trading up for him might of been a bit of a reach. Who knows? He's played 1 year. People should wait. What if he rushes for over 1000 yards next year? What will people say then? Just sayin...

Hey Montreal, it's cold here but not THAT cold. Wow. I'm actually working in Kitchener 3 times a week right now. Kitchener in January .. holy moly .. got to pay the bills though

If they went from 4-12 to 6-10 to 8-8 I'd be optimisitic. Miamis gone from 11-5 to 7-9 to 7-9 to 6-10! Where is the optimisim? In your imagination? Wake Up!!

Posted by: Captain Obvious | January 16, 2012 at 12:48 PM

LOL! Imaginations can sometimes be the product of narcotic medication. Sometimes presribed, often times not! I'm hoping those vivid imaginations are the result of that & not any kind of logical thought process.

The next season there will be no NFL sunday ticket on Direct TV in my house,this franchise has been the commedy of the entire nfl,the fan base should not buy any longer season holder ticket,so we as a fan can show to this front office who got B.A.L.L.S.

You work in Kitchener Mark?? Holy cow...That's a hell of a drive from Toronto...Hope it's worth it for you...$$$ ::)

Mark in Toronto, don't be a moron, we switch our 3 for their 2. We didn't lose a pick by switching. If you don't want to try to understand, or are too obtuse , that's fine.

Posted by: michael | January 16, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Michael, did you work in finance at Olympus? WorldCom? Enron maybe???

Just wondering because by your record of tracking, assets just go missing and ficticious transactions just appear.

We traded our 3rd for their 2nd? Straight up? Really? That's what you're telling me?

And you're right, we didn't lose one pick by switching, it cost us two picks to move our 3rd for their 2nd. Plus the pick we used to eventually select the ordinary player and voila ... 3 picks.

DFM...Exactly..the guy was injured most of the year. Everyone is so quick to put a lable on these guys. Even the point of overspending for Thomas is a little premature, at least this point is debateable.

Mark in Toronto, we were only talking of the cost to move up. It cost us 2 picks. period. Nothing more nothing less. Any moron can see that,

i have been a dolphins fan forever can not remember any other team. I used to laugh at the New orleans, Bucs and Bangles, becuase they used to be the laughing stock of the league. Well now i hit rock bottom the dolphins are now the joke of the league. Everyone is laughing at the Dolphins a once proud team now a pit a ful orginization. This team has no upside and if i was a established player or a coach i would not come here. I am at the point i do not blame the fans for not going to the games. only sell out next year will be the three divisional games and thea is becasue the away team fans will buy the tickets

Montreal, I'm ont eh west end of Toronto, so it's like 45 mins because I'm the only guy who works that way it seems, haha. Because I'm consulting, I arranged unique terms, they pay me for the extra kms but it still ends up costing me because my 6 cylinder SUV burns the gas. Should've just bought a prius or a volt, haha!

Let the circus continue.....and the next HC puppet is......

Mark and Michael are both kind of right, so this argument could go on forever.

How many picks did we technically trade? 3

How many picks did we lose? 2

Ireland needs to break the bank to get DeSean Jackson...

Michael, I was talking about the cost of selecting Daniel Thomas - 3 picks. Irregardless, the cost of moving up was using our 5th, 7th, and 3rd to get their 2nd.

Ok, I can't waste anymore time with guys who can't count to three - I'm out.

Mark, Odin & I argued this last week. But, I wasn't thinking it out clearly. I wasn't taking into account the actual pick used to select him. It wasn't free!

Simply said, we gave up 3 total picks(3,5 & 7) & wound up with Thomas.

What Toronto can't count a subtraction of 2 picks.....................hummmm

Mark, that was funny...I'll tell you one thing...If you go from an SUV to a prius or volt, you're going to flip out...I'm all for the environment and all, but with 2 girls and my 90 pound golden retriever, I like my SUV...My wife agrees...LOL!!

Later guys...I'm out.

2 picks sounds less painful then 3 picks.

Merling needs to be cut and Hartline cant be starting.

Yep, that's the guy. I like Hartline too, the man makes impressive catches. I'd also keep merling and switch to the 4-3. Odrick, starks, merling and langford. Dansby in the middle, misi on the outside. Not sure if wake would fit in the mix but anywho

ESPN, Making an impressive catch every now and then doesnt mean Hartline should start. He's not quick, fast, elusive, he's avg at best. Just pay Deshawn Jackson his money and sign him. Misi stinks, we have no explosive pass rushers. Langford - hell no, Merling - F no, Starks - old as dirt.

Its the GM’s fault as much as anyones. A blind monkey throwing darts could draft better. Ireland has not supplied much talent especially at the all important QB position. I thought he was getting fired over the Dez Bryant debacle. And he eliminates the top 5 HC candidates. Ross is paying a huge price keeping Ireland.

Montreal, I hear you. I'm also vain as heck in my possessions. Wish I could get by driving a little car but I wouldn't be happy. And neither would the ladies, haha.

That's your opinion. I'm okay with finding a starter more explosive than hartline but I like most of the players on D. Misi doesn't stink and was basically spliiting time with JT. I'd be ok with letting lose merling if wake could play on the end. That's how JT started out. I think our frontline is nice and would be more so in that scheme. I don't get the misi hate, seems like its just cuz mando doesn't like him. I didn't miss a snap all year and misi looked good to me.

If Starks is old as dirt at 29, what is Dansby at 31 & Wake at 30?

ESPN, your delusional if you think Misi bings anything to the table. Name one gamechanging play he made or interception or Fumble recovery or Fumble Forced. He just a guy in there I cant fault him though the blame should be on Ireland. Misi didnt do anything in college what makes you think he's a decent player in the NFL? Your splitting time with a 37 year old who more productive than a 23 year old second year player...

rality check, old as dirt as well

Well I think you help my point. JTs football IQ is through the roof and has no upside obvioulsy since he retired. Misi is still learning the game and has obviously much more upside. Just because he didn't have an interception or fumble recovery doent mean he stinks. How many INTs did revis island end up with? And he's the crowned king. Starks had 2 INTs the last game of the year and you just ripped him apart.

I like our people on the field save a few and you don't like any of them. That's fine. Our opinions really are irrelevant.

Here is another falsehood:
Back in October Mando reported that the team was moving on without Henne.
Since neither Mando nor anyone employed knew who would be making that decision how could it possibly be more than a guess (or in Mando's case wishful thinking. Ever since Mando discovered that Henne is german for jefe he's tried to get rid of Henne).
But guess what?


And you heard in here first but not from Mando he is the last to know.

ESPN, LB shouldnt need 2 season to show some sort of impact. Look at Jason Pierre Paul, Von Miller, or Timmons from the Steelers, these guys showed potential their first year Misi hasnt showed anything in 2 seasons. Everyone knows team dont throw to Revis and when they do is coverage skills are excellent, Starks is a decent player but is no where near pro bowler. I guess you content with decent average players.

Langford is OK but UFA. Merling is utter garbage & also UFA. I agree on Misi, he has shown nothing in 2 years. Same thing with Clemons at FS. Just because they play, don't mean they're any good. People over estimate the talent on this roster.

Throw in what reality check said about Wake & Dansby(2 of the better D players) over 30. Bell is 34? This D is average as it is, what will it be in a year or 2 when these guys start getting phased out?

If Ross is happy with the team Ireland has put together, he's certainly ok with losing.

So Jeff Fisher is adding Brian Shothemier as his offensive coordinator and Greg Williams from the 29th ranked Saints defensive as the defensive coordinator. Arent you guys glad he didnt choose the Dolphins?

The only last question I have thought is, what do you think we could have really gotten with the 5th and 7th round picks? Do we ever usually get good talent that late in a draft anyway?

Posted by: Ohio Dolfan


With the Dolphins, you could make the argument they don't usually get good talent anywhere in the draft!

Let Langford go he hasnt recorded more than 5 sacks in any season

I'm wearing fishnet stockings and NOTHING else. Mmmmmmm.

I don't trust ESPN anyway, They're big fans of the Ptriots, Jets and Bills and trash on Miami any chance they get

So let's see. There are three teams with high draft picks looking for QBs (Washington, Cleveland and Miami). And it appears Griffin, Flynn and perhaps Manning may be available for the right price. It seems to me that if we really want a QB we should be able to get one. Or should I say if Ireland wants a QB he should be able to get one.

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