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Rams travel to mountain top to get Fisher wisdom

Jeff Fisher is interviewing with the St. Louis Rams today in Denver, according to YahooSports.

Searching for clever lines now ... So if the Dolphins brought Fisher in on a helicopter, do the Rams give him a ride on a ski lift? Or on Tim Tebow's shoulders?

Seriously, the next day or so is going to be nail-biting time for Dolphins owner Stephen Ross, general manager Jeff Ireland, advisor-in-chief Carl Peterson and Dolphins fans everywhere. Fisher, the best available coach candidate on the market, is very much in play and very much in demand and St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke wants him just as much as the Dolphins do.

Both teams are what I would call, um, what's the word ... desperate.

Fisher will coach either the Rams or Dolphins, an NFL source is telling me.

In South Florida, the Dolphins are needing to make a splash to renew their increasingly sagging reputation. They have made the playoffs only once in a decade. Ross was booed at his own stadium by Dolphins fans on Sunday even when he was trying to do something nice, giving Jason Taylor a fitting sendoff.

Season ticket buyers, already in short supply, will go AWOL in droves if the Dolphins don't land Fisher but try to sell you Joe Philbin or Dave Toub or one of the other lesser light candidates, as a good hire.

So the Dolphins are counting on Fisher joining the team. They need Fisher joining the team. They're willing to change their structure, their culture, change their defense even (Fisher runs a 4-3) to hire Fisher. And they are willing to pay through the nose to do it.

But guess what?

The Rams are similarly desperate. The Rams have had only four winning seasons since 1990. They've won only 15 games since 2007. And they're trying to get the community to fund renovations to their domed home.

They are reportedly interested in interviewing former Dolphins interim Todd Bowles, but they can never actually hire Bowles because, well, he is not Fisher.

Fisher is the thing in Miami, yes. But ownership in St. Louis is under similar pressure to show itself competent of hiring the biggest name on the block with failure signaling serious repercussions to its reputation, financial standing, etc ...

Now, I have seen some of you question the logic, even the intelligence of hiring Fisher based on his style of play or his record. I've read more than once in the comments section that Fisher had only six winning seasons in 17 seasons with the Tennessee Titans.

This is a statement of fact, but not of truth. It fails to recognize the situation Fisher dealt with while working for the Oilers first and then the newly named Titans after the move to Nashville.

Consider these truths in today's the St. Louis Post Dispatch:

In his first four full seasons as the coach of the Oilers-Titans, Fisher's teams played "home games" in four stadiums, in three cities, in two states. The Houston Astrodome in 1996, Liberty Bowl in Memphis in 1997, the Vanderbilt University stadium in Nashville in 1998, and the new stadium in Nashville in 1999. The Titans remained competitive. Fisher calmly coached through the chaos.

The Titans were fifth in the NFL in victories over a 10-season period (1999-2008) after finally getting settled in their new Nashville home. Only Indianapolis, New England, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia won more games.

Fisher rebuilt the Titans on the fly after core-nucleus veterans were cleared out during a salary-cap purge in 2004. After retooling during two losing seasons (2004-2005), the Titans improved to .500 in 2006 and made the playoffs in '07 and '08.

During Fisher's 16 full seasons, his Oilers-Titans had the NFL's seventh-best winning percentage. They were sixth in rushing and fourth in stopping the run. They were fourth in sacks and third in preventing sacks. They had league's 10th-best touchdown/interception ratio.

Fisher had five 8-8 seasons. But three came when the Titans were in their transient phase before 1999. Another 8-8 came during the rebuilding process of 2005.

[RADIO NOTE: I'll be discussing all things coaching search this morning on my radio show, the Armando Salguero and Chris Perkins show on 640 Sports from 6-10 a.m. You can watch the show on The Miami Herald's u-stream telecast. You can also call the show from anywhere in the nation. Call 1-888-640-9385.]

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Mark, Your right switch the defense back to 4-3 and sign Finaly and Jackson to long term contract get rid of Solai, Fasano, Hartline. IMO..

I see the same names here day after day. Not trying to be rude, but are some of you guys just jobless or have some kind of physical disability? I can't imagine how you could be employed.

Honestly, I'm just curious---not being snarky.

i think Hartline would be decent on a high powered offense. Just like Jordy Nelson would suck if he had Blaine Gabbert or Sanchez throwing to him.

wolfman, No I agree that Moore would be the perfect bridge for a rookie QB whether its somehow on earth RG3 or some 2nd rounder like Tannehill or Foles. I was only arguing Moore if he started the season is the worst in the AFC East.

Posted by: AndyNJ | January 05, 2012 at 11:23 AM

AndyNJ,

Get a clue on the QB's. I live out side Rochester NY which is Buffalo territory. The media here believes Moore is the second best QB in the AFC East. They are all crying over the fact they are stuck with Fitzpatrick due to the boat load of money Ralph Wilson paid him. And any fan on this blog would take Moore over Sanchez. By saying Moore is the worst QB in the AFC east, your saying you would take Fitzpatrick and Sanchez over Moore, correct?

Delray, Im at work. The standard 9 to 5 and I work on the computer all day, when Im not technically doing work, Im reading/blogging Dolphins, it gets me through the day.

kris, i tink it was yimmy yohnson who said stats r for losers.

Getting another explosive receiver will not make our pass offense more explosive than the patriots..so whats the point? In order to win our division you have to hit tom brady. Until we can do that or get a franchise qb its pointless to add another 50 million dollar receiver. If you take away our run defense not only are we beatable by the patriots but now the jets and bills will beat us too.

Cool, Spiderman. I figured some people might get super defensive about my question but you took it in the spirit it was intended. Just genuine curiosity. Thanks!

I read yesterday that Kiper has Foles as a fifth round pick....take that for what it's worth. Is there really a point to drafting the 'next' QB in the fifth round?

Much rather see this team take a chance on somebody in the first and be wrong than try and pin the future on a latter round pick.

Ray, your saying that B Marsh should be having 1500 yard 10 Td seasons but since he doesnt have Brees/Brady throwing to him its only 1000 and 6 TD's.

Hartline isnt a gamebreaker alas a D Jackson.

boca bob, we all work for the phins fo, thats why the team f'n blows.lol

Spiderman, where in the US are you?

Remember also that the Steelers & Ravens both had competitive advantages over Fisher's Titans. He had trouble against them. So I'm not sure he will get the better of Belicheat. I think Fisher is a good coach & would rather have him than not, but I think if Ross looks hard enough he could find someone else who is capable.

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Spiderman,

Much rather have a guy like Vincent Jackson on this team than Desean. No room for quitters and that's what Desean is. If Fisher's here he won't want DeSean either. The Eagles are saying all the right things right now about Desean. Now let's see if they back that up by giving him the big contract he wants.

Aslam, I think the point is we nned to add more playmakers, the game has changed and its based on scoring points not holding teams to 10pts.

But I do agree we also need to find some defensive playmakers, Cam Wake had a down season and we lost our second best pass rusher in JT. Its a shame a 38 year old is our second best pass rusher...

Spiderman,

I see your point, and I really enjoy watching Jackson's long electric plays for the Eagles, so I don't hate him, and I would love the explosiveness.

Maybe he matures too........I have really become a Marshall fan while he's been here, so who knows

#1, In Atlanta, Georgia. Craig believe it or not but there has been some games where Marshall quit in the game (not on the team. Jackson was frustrated it comes with the territory of a diva WR. I think he just wants his money. Also VJ and BM are essentially the same type of WR's.

D.Jackson was just frustrated because of his contract issues. Never was a problem before. He's not the first one and certainly not the last. I'm out for lunch. Later guys.

thats correct dmfins!

Spiderman,

There's two ways you can go. You can do what the Jets did and throw a whole lot of money to resign Holmes or you can avoid him like the plague. You think the Jets wouldn't like to get out from under Holmes' contract now? They are STUCK!!....and they are SCREWED!

I'm just saying, if you're giving me a choice between the two players, I'd take Vincent Jackson (and he's had his problems off the field). If Jeff Fisher is here he won't want Desean here. He had his problems with Pacman Jones and Young and couldn't wait to get rid of them. They were a distraction to the team.

For my next job interview I hope the company flies me in on a Helicopter too :)

We should hire Goldie Hawn.

She got the Wildcats turned around and took them to the city championship.

anyone else think Jeff Fisher is a bit negative?
I mean, last play of the superbowl and he throws a check down pass. c'mon!
i'd rather have a younger, more dynamic coach, more intune with today's NFL.

Ohio, Only in your dreams. Craig M, I respect your opinion.

Ray Finkle?,Where have I heard that name before? Was it Ace Ventura?

Here's the problem as I see it with Jeff Fisher -

His ears are too small.

Seriously. Did you ever notice that?

The man has incredibly small ears.

And you know what they say about men with small ears ...

Well maybe if Ireland keeps searching for Acorns I'll get a chance for a spot on the Dolphins somewhere :) :)

Spiderman,

Thanks man. I respect yours too. Just a difference of opinion. Not saying Desean isn't a talented player and wouldn't add to our team. He just scares me to DEATH!!

Ohio, Doubt it.. Craig, its all good bro and Nate, go f yourself. J/Jk or am I?

AndyNJ,

Well now that's a statement! Anyhow, none of them are franchise QB's and they are easily replaced.

On another note. Everybody blogging here is concerned about Luck and RG3 being the only QB's ready for the NFL. It's hard to pick any QB at this point. The scouting combine can give us all a clue on the QB's.

2watt...you made me look it up...and it was Belicheat...

AndyNJ....

Not to beat a dea horse...but since 2 watt had me look it up....I read an article as to why Belicheat said "stats are for losers"....

It had nothing to do with..."a school yard bunch of offenses"...which BTW...Belicheat is the HC of one of those...

It had to do with a player from Carolina calling out Moss after he "claimed" that he has held him in check and caused Moss to quit on the team....

Belicheat was merely defending a player...not stating his coaching philosphy....which it seems many have taken that quote out of context and interperted that quote to mean something it didn't....

http://www.nesn.com/2009/12/bill-belichick-stats-are-for-losers.html

Craig M,

I don't thin you would have to worry too much about DeSean. I don't see Miami signing another big money WR with the mixed results of Marshall.

DeSean was a great teammate in Philly until the team decided to start shelling out money to everyone but him. I actually was on his side with this one. He has played at a high level for them and they give Mike Vick $100 million over a half of a season worth of games, pay Nnamdi who is over rated, pay Babin. I would have felt slighted too.

The coaching search is fine and all.......but I'm more excited when we will be talking about player additions in the months to come

Andy, Arent you the blogger always advocating a "more explosive offense" or writing we need to score more points. Even though i dont see the Dolphins going after a guy like that because theyre so sconservative but I rather them pay him money then pay a guy like Solai 11million..

Kris,

I was using what he said and applying to something I said. I used Belichick's words not in the same way he was implying it.

Sheesh guys! You really were trying to hold me to my words lol. If I wasn't clear I made the statement and never knew Belichick said it first. I have obviously heard the cliche before but its true stats are for losers. Who cares as long as you win. And Miami is sitting home again so I dont care that Matt Moore dinked and dunked his way to a non-playoff appearance.

Andy,

But it wasn't his time yet. He was still under a contract. I have a hard time with athletes who sulk when they are STILL under contract. Both Vick and Babin had paid their dues. Jackson's time was coming but he hurts his reputation and bargaining position when he pulls that stuff.

As I said, Eagles are saying all the right things right now but it will be interesting to see if they pull the trigger on giving him the money.

Forget Fisher... Find someone else, beside Fisher is known to run, run and run some more with his conservative Offense.. We need Mike Martz, someone who believes in pass, pass, and more passing on Offense.. Toooo many field goals points are being scored from the Dolphins recent coaches style and philosophy..YOU don't see the Patriots or Saints relying on their kicker ?

Peter King is now saying 'hard to say where Fisher is going, until his interview is over with Kroenke. Gun to head, I'd say Rams'.

Geez, just a couple of days ago he made it sound like a sure thing with all the salary cap room, franchise QB and number 2 pick. I think yg must have cracked his Twitter account with all the flip-flopping he's doing.

Craig,

Completely disagree both Vick and Babin were coming off career years. I hardly see that as paying dues. But I get your point about the sulking. Like I said seriously doubt Miami would be interested in him

The only poster here that I read with interest was Stephen Brown as, apparently, the guy knows his Football. The rest, are as Fidel Castro has promised the Cuban people, "mas de lo mismo"(more of the same), sh-t.

AndyNJ,

My point is both guys have been in the league a lot longer than Jackson. The way the NFL is set up, you have to pay your dues before you hit payday, much more now under the new CBA. Jackson was a guy that fell to the second round and he's probably still got a chip on his shoulder that he wasn't paid as a first rounder.

oscar my friend

your more of a problem than these mindless fans who are more interested in a name rather than a coach that can bring stability and a winning attitude to this franchise. the fans have pushed a lot of solid players and coaches from this franchise through threats of boycotting games and you lead the way with your never ending negativity. Fisher is an average coach who went to 1 SB in 17 years of coaching. Bowles did a great job in his short time as coach. Give him a chance

Should we be concerned about losing Mike Nolan and our 3-4 defense if Fisher comes to town?

didn't want to put u to work kris. oops.lol. but yimmy said something like that too.

Fire Ireland keep everyone else

All of us that think the Dolphins are in a bad situation should look at the Rams. Yes they have a young QB but he played terribly this year. I believe he threw 6 TD passes the whole year. The rest of the Rams team is expansion team caliber. Their stadium is a joke, Its a crappy city and they may re-locate in a few years. Maybe thats what Fisher is banking on. That in a few years he will coach the Los Angeles Rams in the second largest market in the US with a brand new stadium. What you think Armando?

Armando will get beat in reporting Fishers decision. Every major site will report it before he does.

Armando, you should know I love ya, but this whole article is an excuse for Fishers record of 6 winning seasons out of 17. 35% is hardly one that should be so lusted over like it is now. Yes Fisher is a top name but that has never won football games, esp in Miami. We keep doing the same thing, hire the big name coach to compensate for well everything and it never works out. I really like the idea of giving Bowles a shot. We need a fresh new start, I believe Bowles represents that.

reports that 2 other teams are already interested in Bowles.......

Maybe we should at least think about him?

I believe Fisher would go to Rams if:

1) Rams allow Fisher to pick his own GM (give him more POWER than Fins are willing to give him).

2) Rams allow Fisher to pick RGIII or Luck at #2 and trade Bradford.

Assuming Rams decide to trade Bradford, would the Fins be interested and would Fins give up their #1 pick for him or send Marshall to Rams and a 2nd round pick?

wolfman, No I agree that Moore would be the perfect bridge for a rookie QB whether its somehow on earth RG3 or some 2nd rounder like Tannehill or Foles. I was only arguing Moore if he started the season is the worst in the AFC East. Posted by: AndyNJ

Andy -- are you starting to see the writing on the wall? Both these guys are going to be the only logical choice. And IMO both are going to move into the first round before it's all said and done. But that is because the position they play and the amount of teams needing a QB.

reports that 2 other teams are already interested in Bowles.......

Maybe we should at least think about him?

Posted by: Ohio Dolfan | January 05, 2012 at 01:44 PM


Um, we are thinking about him. We interviewed him.

Fins could use their #1 to get Blackmon if they get Bradford or a QB in free agency (pick up Weeden in later rounds).

reports that 2 other teams are already interested in Bowles.......
Maybe we should at least think about him?

Posted by: Ohio Dolfan | January 05, 2012 at 01:44 PM

He's what I like to call a Parcellian. He got an interview with Dumbo Ireland.

He's the perfect candidate Jeffy can throw under the bus at the opportune time.

He's what I like to call a Parcellian. He got an interview with Dumbo Ireland.

He's the perfect candidate Jeffy can throw under the bus at the opportune time.

Posted by: Search This!!! | January 05, 2012 at 01:47 PM


And this is based on what? Your imagination? I'm guessing you know nothing about Bowles personal coaching philosophy.

I'm a blogger.

Whatever I imagine,
Whatever I think I know based on nothing,
Must be true.

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WISDOM

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OF THE CELLAR ............. HISHER IS A


(( CERTIFIED CELLAR HC )) .............................

Swamy,

I would move our first for Braford if that's what it came too. I don't think he's any worse a prospect than Landry Jones and right now that's who I want the 'Phins to take.

No to Marshall and a second. I don't see the point in that. Who would Bradford be throwing too in Miami?

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