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Rams travel to mountain top to get Fisher wisdom

Jeff Fisher is interviewing with the St. Louis Rams today in Denver, according to YahooSports.

Searching for clever lines now ... So if the Dolphins brought Fisher in on a helicopter, do the Rams give him a ride on a ski lift? Or on Tim Tebow's shoulders?

Seriously, the next day or so is going to be nail-biting time for Dolphins owner Stephen Ross, general manager Jeff Ireland, advisor-in-chief Carl Peterson and Dolphins fans everywhere. Fisher, the best available coach candidate on the market, is very much in play and very much in demand and St. Louis Rams owner Stan Kroenke wants him just as much as the Dolphins do.

Both teams are what I would call, um, what's the word ... desperate.

Fisher will coach either the Rams or Dolphins, an NFL source is telling me.

In South Florida, the Dolphins are needing to make a splash to renew their increasingly sagging reputation. They have made the playoffs only once in a decade. Ross was booed at his own stadium by Dolphins fans on Sunday even when he was trying to do something nice, giving Jason Taylor a fitting sendoff.

Season ticket buyers, already in short supply, will go AWOL in droves if the Dolphins don't land Fisher but try to sell you Joe Philbin or Dave Toub or one of the other lesser light candidates, as a good hire.

So the Dolphins are counting on Fisher joining the team. They need Fisher joining the team. They're willing to change their structure, their culture, change their defense even (Fisher runs a 4-3) to hire Fisher. And they are willing to pay through the nose to do it.

But guess what?

The Rams are similarly desperate. The Rams have had only four winning seasons since 1990. They've won only 15 games since 2007. And they're trying to get the community to fund renovations to their domed home.

They are reportedly interested in interviewing former Dolphins interim Todd Bowles, but they can never actually hire Bowles because, well, he is not Fisher.

Fisher is the thing in Miami, yes. But ownership in St. Louis is under similar pressure to show itself competent of hiring the biggest name on the block with failure signaling serious repercussions to its reputation, financial standing, etc ...

Now, I have seen some of you question the logic, even the intelligence of hiring Fisher based on his style of play or his record. I've read more than once in the comments section that Fisher had only six winning seasons in 17 seasons with the Tennessee Titans.

This is a statement of fact, but not of truth. It fails to recognize the situation Fisher dealt with while working for the Oilers first and then the newly named Titans after the move to Nashville.

Consider these truths in today's the St. Louis Post Dispatch:

In his first four full seasons as the coach of the Oilers-Titans, Fisher's teams played "home games" in four stadiums, in three cities, in two states. The Houston Astrodome in 1996, Liberty Bowl in Memphis in 1997, the Vanderbilt University stadium in Nashville in 1998, and the new stadium in Nashville in 1999. The Titans remained competitive. Fisher calmly coached through the chaos.

The Titans were fifth in the NFL in victories over a 10-season period (1999-2008) after finally getting settled in their new Nashville home. Only Indianapolis, New England, Pittsburgh and Philadelphia won more games.

Fisher rebuilt the Titans on the fly after core-nucleus veterans were cleared out during a salary-cap purge in 2004. After retooling during two losing seasons (2004-2005), the Titans improved to .500 in 2006 and made the playoffs in '07 and '08.

During Fisher's 16 full seasons, his Oilers-Titans had the NFL's seventh-best winning percentage. They were sixth in rushing and fourth in stopping the run. They were fourth in sacks and third in preventing sacks. They had league's 10th-best touchdown/interception ratio.

Fisher had five 8-8 seasons. But three came when the Titans were in their transient phase before 1999. Another 8-8 came during the rebuilding process of 2005.

[RADIO NOTE: I'll be discussing all things coaching search this morning on my radio show, the Armando Salguero and Chris Perkins show on 640 Sports from 6-10 a.m. You can watch the show on The Miami Herald's u-stream telecast. You can also call the show from anywhere in the nation. Call 1-888-640-9385.]

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FISHER IS A (( CERTIFIED CELLAR HC )).........................


HE HAD 8-8 ,7 SEASONS IN THE CELLAR ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

"Get a Clue",

Interviewing him first to get the Roony rule out of the way does NOT mean we are thinking about him. You know as well as I do that an interview doesn't mean they were serious about it.

I'm not saying I even want him, I have no idea, just bringing up the fact I saw an article saying some teams are giving him some attention for some reason

SPARANO HAVE A BETTER RECORD THAN FISHER ..........

Delray ray, I own my own business. We build decks and enclosures, it's spring,summer,and fall work. From Dec. 23rd until March 17th we are off because I live in the North East and the ground is frozen, can't dig.

So in the summer time when all of you people are leaving early and taking vacations I'm working 14 hour days 6 days a week. We work hard all year so we CAN take a few months off and it's great!

No longer am I part of the drones who all drive together and leave together, all wearing the same clothes and listening to someone far less qualified give them tasks to complete. Working for yourself is the only way to live!

Search This!!,

Bellichick is a Parcellian too. You can search that one if you like.

You can run the guy down all you like but the guy has had success in this league and knows a lot more about football than all of us on here combined. It didn't work out in Miami....so what....get over it!

PHINS 78.........................

NOT EVERY ONE CAN WORK FOR HIMSELF LIKE THE CUBAN ,HOW CAN YOU BE WORKING IN A GARAGE PARKING CARS FOR LIVING AND HAVE TO WORK FOR YOURSELF ...........

Phins78,

Amen brother! Self-employed also. Have been for the last ten years. It's the only way to be.

Hey anyone seen DC, lately? Has he changed his username? He's been missing since the New Year?

I've been wondering where DC is too.......

GRAIG M........

DC HAVE LOST HIS JOB AND HE HAS MOVED OUT OF HIS CONDO .....

LOL....ALoco....you're pricless!!....LOL.

Doesn't he have a Goverment job? My guess is he's changed his handle but which one?

Craig M,

Assuming Rams would take Marshall and a 2nd or 3rd round pick, Fins could trade up to get Blackmon.

On Fisher. Fins money could be great but some people (not just in sports) prefer "power".

Brock with all due respect wtf are you talking about? We keep signing big name coaches? Sparano was unknown, Cameron was unknown, Saban was a college guy, and Wanny in no way was a big name coach before he was hired, he was a DC. Jimmy Johnson was the last big name coach we had, that was around 15 years ago, and was the last time we won a playoff game.

Let's face it fellow Fins' Fans, Fisher is a Fantasy!!! Wow, that was a lot of F's. Unfortunately there will be a very loud and audible "F4(

ALoco,

And you're still getting the name wrong. Thought mayeb you might have worked that out by now.

DC HAS LAST HIS JOB,HE POSTED IT A FEW DAYS AGO AFTER HE KICKED HIS BOSS ON KNEE .....TRUE ....

I like Billick. Think he would e a better fit than Fisher IMO.

CRAIG M.... SORRY, I JUST GO BY THE SOUND OF THE NAME ........


SO MANY NAMES,WITH VERY LITTLE TIME ........

Ohio they're giving him attention because of the Rooney rule. He's the best black candidate out there so teams are going to use him to fulfill their obligation to the league rule. I would be shocked if he were hired as a head coach this season as I think he probably need a couple more years under his belt.

Swamy,

Highly doubtful we could trade them Marshall and a 2nd or 3rd and still have the amo to move up and get Blackmon. If Blackmon is still there for the Vikings I would think he's their pick.

However, I wouldn't be opposed to picking one of the other two kids, including Floyd.

I'm not all that excited about Fisher. I want a fresh coach with new ideas.

With Fisher, We'll probably switch to a 4-3, and be run first again. Like Sparano. Remember, He had Eddie George, and Chris Johnson.

Not much is changing if Fisher is hired.

Aloco, save money, buy land, build your own garage, and make someone else park the cars while you collect the money. Not sure exactly what you meant, may have been talking about the Menace but this is what America is all about. You can work for yourself, you just have to be willing to make some sacrifices in the beginning.

CRAIG M
CRAIG M
CRAIG M
CRAIG M

I AM GETTING USE TO THE NAME ..........


I HOPE DC FINDS ANOTHER JOB SOON TO PROVIDE FOR HIS 4 KIDS AND WIFE AND HIS MOTHER WHO'S LIVING WITH THEM .

I still cant believe Ireland will have this big a hand in hiring the next coach. Mind boggling.

Oh yeah, it helps if you have a super supportive wife! If not, dump her. Wouldn't have been able to do it without my awesome wife.

Phins78,

There was some talk that the Dolphins were dragging their heels on letting the Rams interview Bowles. Do you know if they've agreed to that yet? Not sure what the thinking in that would be? Maybe to delay their opportunity to sign Fisher. Bit of a strange one.

What, no more Graig? How did you even pronounce that? hahahah Graig.

This will all be moot point when fisher seals the deal with the rams today or next week...NEXT!!!

Cam, Saban and Parcell's I believe should be included. At the time they were the hottest commodity out there. Cam was an offensive guru and Saban was an all-star coach from college. You may disagree but at the time these were all big names that "we" had to get and how has that worked out. All I am saying, with due respect is big names don't guarantee victories. And sometimes it's good to have a new young motivating fresh face.

Thanks ALoco.....much better!!

PHINS 78.... NOT EVERY JOB CAN TRANSLATE TO BEING SELF EMPLOYED ....... YOU KIND OF EASY TO WORK FOR YOUR SELF B/C ALL YOU NEED IS A HAMMER AND FEW NAILS AND AD IN THE PAPPER ,BUT FOR OTHERS IT'S VERY TOUGH ......

Search This!!,
Bellichick is a Parcellian too. You can search that one if you like.
You can run the guy down all you like but the guy has had success in this league and knows a lot more about football than all of us on here combined. It didn't work out in Miami....so what....get over it!

Posted by: Craig M | January 05, 2012 at 01:57 PM

Boy, you're sensitive! What are you a girl? Get over it! I get it, you're an attention needy gasbag. You have to go after anyone who disagrees with you.

Considering you're Pro Ireland & Parcellian in nature, I can see why the state of this franchise doesn't bother you.

You wouldn't see it for what it was unless it landed on your face & farted.

Phins78,

We pretty much agree then it seems like, maybe you misunderstood my post. I also think Miami just wanted to satisfy the Rule.

I'd like for us to at least hang on to him if possible.

I AM TIRED OF READING THE SAME FOOTBALL POSTS AND SICK OF THE IDEAS AND SAME DRAFT CRAP AND SAME HC TALK .........


Brock,

Cam was NOT a big name. Don't believe he's ever been a Head Coach before, certainly not in the pros. He was the flavour of the month and an unmitigated disaster as head coach. For the guys that loved to run Sparano down I think you forget just how bad Cameron was a head coach. He was the same hot candidate that a guy like Philbin is now. Are you REALLY saying Philbin is a big name? I thought he was the guy that sat beside Kelly Ripa every morning until about a week ago....

Todd Bowles for HC!!!

Anybody else think that Search This! posts read like somebody else on here?

Give you a clue....he posts a lot. Is frequently condescending to others and has changed his name before.

Take a look....looks AWFUL familiar.

I don't want the guy but thought this was an interesting read about Toub that helps explain Miamis interest a bit more.

"Special teams is the third phase of the game, and considering those units feature players from both offense and defense, it's viewed as the one position closest to a head coach because of the position's hands-on nature with the entire team."

"Former Steelers coach Bill Cowher got his foot in the door as a special teams coordinator with the Browns, and John Harbaughwas a special teams coordinator with the Eagles for 10 seasons before becoming Baltimore's head coach in 2008."

"Coincidentally, Toub spent three years with the Eagles as assistant special teams coach under Harbaugh. Before that, he worked at the University of Missouri (1989-2000) as the strength coach and then defensive line coach."

Changed from a two word handle, to a two word handle to a two word handle....

just saying...

I'd like to see Ricky Williams become the unsung hero for the Ravens in these playoffs.

Phins78, if you took Hester away, would Toub be getting a look at all?

Craig is it YG? or Dying Breed?

ARMANDO WROTE;

"What is known is that is Carl Peterson talking to Fisher. That is Carl Peterson boarding the helicopter. That is the same Carl Peterson who has said he would not be joining the Dolphins."

"That is the same Carl Peterson who multiple NFL sources have told me -- even today -- will be named the Dolphins president in the coming days or weeks."

"When Ross last spoke to the media he said he hadn't spoken with Peterson about joining and working for the Dolphins. Hmmm. Looks like he's doing Dolphins work to me."

"In fact, I'm told Peterson was the Dolphins representative that both contacted and spoke with Jon Gruden about the Dolphins job recently. I'm told Peterson met with Gruden to gauge his interest for the Dolphins' 'coaching job."

"Gruden made it clear to Peterson he isn't interested and Peterson carried that message back to Ross."

"That also sounds like Dolphins work to me."

"So why all the denials? What's the big deal?"

Well is it possible that all the denials were merely the team and associates telling you he's not going to be working for the Dolphins in an official capacity? Because as he is advising, (and helping two people who have little experience hiring coaches), he's not an employee. Everyone can see that he's helping find a coach so why are you reporters obsessed with making them tell you what we can all see with our own two eyes? It came out officially today that he will NOT be the new czar of the Dolphins. You may want to have a word with your sources, they seem to be out of the loop.

Clue,

What do you think?

Condescending to whom? Towards Parcells & Ireland? You bet. Not my fault you take offense. Get some thicker skin.

I started posting here this week right when the coach search started. Hence the name. DUH

PS...Didn't know you were the only one allowed to post frequently with a snobbish condescending tone. My bad!

Dying Breed, Yesterday's Gone, Search this????

From an ESPN insider report I just read.

"Dan Pompei of the Chicago Tribune reports that he's hearing that Jeff Fisher is leaning towards the Dolphins over the Rams."

DEL RAY: Everybody that will reply to your question is going to tell you they are at work on their computer or they work for themselves.I'm currently layed off and unemployed and I see these same people on here 24/7 bro and I have always wondered the same thing,LMAO!!Atleast I'm honest

oh & PPS....if other people give you sh*t on this blog, as you're insinuating, it's pretty obvious my gasbag assement of you is spot on.

Just an observation!

WHY DOES ARMANDO ALWAYS SAY"ACCORDING TO NFL SOURCES WHO TALKED TO JEFF ONEAL" ARMANDO,WHY NO ONE TALK TO YOU? ONLY JASAN TYRAYLER WHO NOW RETIRED.WHAT SAY YOU?

I APPROVE THE FAKE ALoco's POST @ 2;33 PM................

GOOD JOB FAKE ALoco..........

ANYONE HERE WITH A "BRAIN" KNOWS I DONT HIDE BEHIND A NEW SCREEN NAME TO BASH IDIOT GRAIG M(THX ALOCO).

EVEN WHEN I CHANGED MY SCREEN NAME I TOLD EVERYONE. STILL IDIOTS LIKE GRAIG M WERE SAYING I WAS DYINGBREED AFTER I HAD ALREADY TOLD THE IDIOTS THIS.

WHEN I CHANGE MY SCREEN NAME I TELL EVERYONE. THOSE WHO KNOW ME KNOW THIS. DONT GET CAUGHT UP IN IDIOTVILLE THE MAYOR OF IDIOTVILLE, GRAIG M. LOL

this regime lies when it doesnt have to so when they actually tell the truth,no one believes it. the jets GM mike tannenbaum) was on mike francesa's t.v./radio show out of n.y. yesterday. wow,did he get grilled on everything jets! he did try to answer every embarassing question he was asked. can you see ireland subjecting himself to that? he is still in his rabbit hole.

I REMEMBER YG SAYING HE WAS DB AND I BELIEVE HIM NOW HE'S NOT SEARCH THIS ........


Search this,

Im surprised CraigM hasnt accused everyone here who doesnt agree with his total bs of being me.

He told me Im the only one on this blog he "fights with".

EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THAT'S A BOLD FACED LIE.

Anyone reading this has probably foughtr with GraigM at one point or another. If you disagree with him, then youre called condencending. LOL

DB COME CLEAN YOU DIDNT TELL YOUR NAME UNTIL A POSTER BUSTED YOU. TRICKED YOU I REMEMBER.

ALoco,

Its just GRAIG M trying to start crap because he didnt think I was here. He's the mayor of Idiotville and Coward of the county! LOL

DB/YG/LOL/FLIPPER BREED NOW SERCH THIS?,FLIPPER STICK WITH ONE NAME OTHERWISE IF NEW POSTERS COME ON THEY THINK WE'ER A BUNCH OF FLIP-FLOPERS.
(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

Definitely the SAME style. I'll let others make up their own mind. Interesting that the guy has changed him before and both guys love to get into name-calling.

Bogus(SISSY KRISSY),

Youre as big an idiot as CRAIG M. I had told everyone for at least a couple weeks I was DB before you began posting you tricked me into saying who I was.

Anyone here knowing this to be true, truly saw what an idiot you were saying you tricked me into confessing when I already told everyone who I was weeks before.

I guess it takes those riding the short yellow bus far longer to get the memo. ROTFLMAO!

Like I said yg/db.....whatever you're going as this week.....

Others are smart enough to figure it out on there own. Just thought I'd put it out there...

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