Jeff Fisher: Decision next week

Jeff Fisher is done with his initial meetings with the Dolphins and St. Louis Rams and he will decide between the two next week, according to ESPN.

Fisher apparently said idependently or told the network he won't decide between the two teams until next week, which suggests he'll take the weekend to think things through. He also said the decision is, as has been reported here, between Miami and St. Louis exclusively.

Both teams are hopeful of landing Fisher.

Why?

Simple: Both know he can do the job. Fisher has been a successful NFL head coach.

But both teams are continuing with their coach search. The Dolphins today are hosting Green Bay Packers offensive coordinator Joe Philbin. The Rams are similarly continuing with their interview process. But everyone both teams are interviewing that is not named Fisher pretty much comes with this warning:

None have any NFL head coach experience. So in that regard, the teams are hoping these candidates can be head coaches.

See the difference?

Fisher is known to be able to do the job. The other candidates, the teams hope they can do the job.

Comments

[Mike]

I don't think Fisher is a good fit for the Dolphins. Besides, what has he done lately? Philbin might be a better option since he is a proven Offensive Coach and we do have a need to score more points. With an improved defense and a better Offcense, the Dolphins might just be able to get into the playoffs.

[Phins78]

Oh my God NYG are you serious? hahahahahHA! Why are you still talking about Cowher as if he's a viable option? The Dolphins reached out to him first, before they talked to anyone else Petersen called Cowher, this has been reported. He told Petersen, or his people told Petersen NO, under no circumstances would he be coaching in 2012. I just don't know why you are still talking about it. You want to throw a bunch of money at him and force him out of retirement? That's the worst possible thing you could do. If he's begrudgingly coming to your team and only because he was given a boat load of mon,,,,,,, ahhhh forget it. Hope you get Cowher. Cough cough pipedream cough cough. :)

[New Coach Wanted]

CraigM,

I didn't give say why Tampa and other teams weren't interviewing Fisher. You did.

I simply stated other teams weren't interested, which if this is difficult to understand, is proven by not scheduling him for an interview.

It would be nice if when people challenged me, they actually challenged what I said not what they think I said or what they themselves said.

Lets make it simple.

Fisher is a career .54 coach. There is nothing to suggest he will improve that winning percentage or be able to develop a QB.

Fisher is unquestionably more likely than Cowher, Gruden, or Billick to win a Superbowl.

A first time headcoach is more likely than any of them to win a Superbowl for Miami.

In the alternative, a HC with less than a decade of experience is far more likely to win a Superbowl for Miami than any of them.

End of story. Debate it if you want but those are the facts.

[odinseye]

Philbin ran the scout team and passed out game plan sheets.

Other than that, he stayed out of the way.

I can't understand how you can ask what has Fisher done lately in one breath and advocate Philbin the next.

What has Philbin EVER done?

[Phins78]

Mike, you say what has Fisher done lately and then condone hiring a man who has proved nothing,,,,,,,ever. Doesn't make sense. The only coaches who have done anything lately are coaching teams in the playoffs right now and will be for a long time. IMO I don't want another rookie head coach with a bunch of first time assistants. I want a coach who can put a top notch staff together and who will command respect from the first day he walks in the locker room. Not some first timer who has to get the veterans on his side by kissing their azzes and then pull his last teams rejects over to our team so they can help install the playbooks.

Because that's what will happen guys, just like Tony did when coming from Dallas. Philbin will want a bunch of players from Green Bay but we're not getting the good players,,, oh no, it will be third stringers who will take the jobs of up and coming rookies, who will go to other teams and most likely be successful just to make us cry some more. It happens all of the time.

And where is Philbins staff coming from? He doesn't have any connections! You think any of those Green Bay assistants are going to quit that job to come to Miami? Pfffffttttttttt! So guess who's hiring Philbins assistants? JEFF IRELAND. MUwaaaahahahahahaha. Have you guys really thought out this Philbin thing?

[Phins78]

New Coach Wanted how do you know other teams haven't wanted to interview him? Maybe they asked for permission and his agent said he wasn't interested. Maybe he only wanted the Rams or Dolphins job? I'm making a point about how easy it is to assume. You're assuming some of these things you're saying. They aren't facts, just educated guesses.

[todd neal]

Im sorry, I just cant get excited about Fisher. He coached the best players in the history of the Oilers/Titans. And he won ZERO super bowls. I feel that he is not even an upgrade from Sparano. Why not just stick with Bowles? He knows the players and the system. Irregardless, we will be nothing until Ireland is gone.

[New Coach Wanted]

Its been thought out about as well as every other team that immediately put in a request to interview Philbin. Of course, what do all those teams know compared to some bloggers on this site. I mean, after all, these were the guys who wanted Jimmy Johnson, Saban, Cameron, oh, and Parcells.

The difference is some people see you should interview and research different candidates. Aside from his name, does anyone here have ANY idea what or if Fisher has a plan to improve the Dolphins? Is it viable? Does it make sense? Is it a plan the team is comfortable with? Let me answer. Nope, no one has a single clue.

Any reasonable person would interview the various candidates, ask the appropriate questions and evaluate the answers before even THINKING about selecting someone. But not on this blog. Here it is forget about their qualifications or plan, just hire Fisher. Same thinking is what got us all the other coaches who accomplished nothing with the Dolphins.

[Phins78]

"Fisher is a career .54 coach. There is nothing to suggest he will improve that winning percentage or be able to develop a QB.

Fisher is unquestionably more likely than Cowher, Gruden, or Billick to win a Superbowl.

A first time headcoach is more likely than any of them to win a Superbowl for Miami.

In the alternative, a HC with less than a decade of experience is far more likely to win a Superbowl for Miami than any of them.

End of story. Debate it if you want but those are the facts."

New Coach wanted it would be the end of the story if those were actual facts but they're not. Every one of those statements is an educated GUESS. Meaning the facts show that IN THE PAST this is the way things played out but in no way suggest that the future is set in stone. That because something happened in the past there will be no change in course or direction. We wouldn't exist if this were true.

[odinseye]

Lets make it simple.
Fisher is a career .54 coach. There is nothing to suggest he will improve that winning percentage or be able to develop a QB.
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There was nothing to suggest Tom Brady or Curt Warner would be Super Bowl winning MVP's. Hard work and dedication, look how it turns out.

Moot Point!
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Fisher is unquestionably more likely than Cowher, Gruden, or Billick to win a Superbowl.
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Ya Think? Seeing how Cowher, Gruden and Billick aren't even coaching. I hope you didn't waste time consulting NostraHomus on that one-LOL.
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A first time headcoach is more likely than any of them to win a Superbowl for Miami.
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The ONLY Coach to have ever won a Super Bowl in Miami wasn't a first timer. You're running real fast and loose with this one.
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In the alternative, a HC with less than a decade of experience is far more likely to win a Superbowl for Miami than any of them.
End of story. Debate it if you want but those are the facts.
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Facts? ROTFLMAO! It's not that I don't want to debate, in this case, it's just not worth it ;)

[New Coach Wanted]

Phins78,

To repeat:

Fisher is a career .54 coach. There is nothing to suggest he will improve that winning percentage or be able to develop a QB.

Fisher is unquestionably more likely than Cowher, Gruden, or Billick to win a Superbowl.

A first time headcoach is more likely than any of them to win a Superbowl for Miami.

In the alternative, a HC with less than a decade of experience is far more likely to win a Superbowl for Miami than any of them.

Debate it if you want but those are the facts. You can research it yourself. The data is conclusive and exhaustive.

[IMAWriter]

Overlooked regarding Fisher (whom I a bit lukewarm about, as I live in the Nashville area...FINS FAN!!) and this is a positive...
Fisher has ALWAYS BEEN LOYAL TO HIS ASSISTANTS, even when Bud Adams put heavy pressure on Fisher to make changes. it is one of the reasons Fisher was let go.

Assistants around the league KNOW this, and subsequently Fisher will have a great chance to hire the best of the available best, assuming their positions are upgraded.
Starting Steve Spagnuola (sp), more respected than even Nolan.
We had too many 2nd half collapses for me to feel completely confident about Nolan. but maybe that was just our guys crapping out.

[New Coach Wanted]

odinseye,

You may want to sit this one out. You may think you actually offered a rebuttal, but you don't even understand the premise. Whats amusing is your one rebuttal actually proved the very next point. This is too difficult for you.

They are not my facts. They are NFL facts.

[Phins78]

New Coach That's not true at all. Problem is we are not sitting in on these interviews, we only have what we've seen to make our call. I have seen Fisher coach, I know that he is WELL respected around the league, I know he was a member of the ethics committee or something and I know he has tons of connections that will help him hire a top notch staff. I don't know any of those things about the other candidates so my choice is Fisher. The people doing the interviews will have to decide if that's who they really want.

Hey look at it this way New Coach, if Philbin is as good as you say then he certainly blew Petersen and Ross away today in his interview and maybe Petersen will recommend grabbing him now and telling Fisher to screw off. Ya never know. And then after he brings us to the Super Bowl you can tell us how wrong we were. And I'll be happy to agree! :)

[Phins78]

Guy, seriously, once again those aren't facts. Please, you're telling me something is going to happen a certain way because it happened that way in the past. You can't say that with a serious face and call it a fact,,,,,IT HASN'T EVEN HAPPENED YET. You're quoting things that may happen in the future and calling them facts! Did you just get out of a Delorian with a guy called Doc? Probably not so I'm going to assume you have no idea what is going to happen in the future.

No second time coach has ever won a super bowl? What, out of the 8 or so of them that have ever existed?

Okay great,,, than Fisher will be the first!!!! Woo Hooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!

[DevilsAdvocate]

Lots of projecting going on. We don't really know the details of so many things, we can only guess.

Why are other teams not interested in Fisher? Maybe it was him not interested in them?

Why don't we interview Chudz? Maybe he didn't want to, maybe people in the fins org know him and don't have a good relationship with him, maybe 1 million other reasons?

We tried coordinators and it didn't work out.

Green Bay, Pitt and NO tried coordinators and it did work out.

We tried experienced coaches and it didn't work out.

Giants tried an experienced coach and it did work out. Ditto for when the a Fins brought in Shula.

Is Flynn the next Kolb? Flip a coin for the correct answer, or the wrong answer.

Polians got axed. Was it relationship issues, performance issues, or the owner just said I've paid you guys a wad for a long time, time for someone new? The GM had no plan B for QB, and whamo, that is not what Irsay was paying them big bucks for. They failed. They got axed. That is real world. Kudos to Irsay for not hesitating.

Moral of the story? You can't rule anything in and you can't rule anything out. The trick is in mastering the art of judgement.

[Phins78]

Wait a minute did they travel to the past and the future or just the past? I'm confused now. Oh well you know what I was saying damn it! :)

[Phins78]

Gotta go, won't see any response New Coach. It's all good, we'll agree to disagree.

[odinseye]

Whats amusing is your one rebuttal actually proved the very next point. This is too difficult for you.
They are not my facts. They are NFL facts.
Posted by: New Coach Wanted | January 06, 2012 at 06:34 PM

Yeah, you trying to masquerade baseless proclamations and suppositions as fact is WAY to complicated for me.

Since I'm a Bohemian and I have to sit this one out, just let me say:

Dude! You're a Blow Hole of the lowest kind-LOL.

(Imagine that. A guy that can't differentiate fact from opinion implies it's too difficult for me. It's not difficult at all. I can tell when a blowhole ain't woth listening too ;)

[NY "G"]

Patriots will speak to McDaniels this weekend.

Thank GOD.. Hope they hire him before he ends up being interviewed here.

[DevilsAdvocate]

NYG

Just wondering. At what point do the Cowher negotiations start? Before or after the draft?

[Rob in OC]

Sorry to digress but I just had to get in on the helicopter naming hoot...

Helicopter names:

Phinfetcher

Flying Orange Carpet Treatment

Airshark (Take off of Landshark Stadium)

Pelican Briefer

Air Bling

U.C.S (Unfinished Coaching Searcher) "What can Orange do for you?"

King Fisher

The Billick Bullet

Gruden Grabber

The Boss Ross Ring Toss

"XXX" as in fi"X" ailing franchise, ti"X" sales go up, fins in SB mi"X".

Ireland's Roto Rescue

and I'm spent.... Cheers!

[odinseye]

Well, I'm gonna get Drunk and I shore do dread it.

Cause I know just what I'm gonna do!

Spend my whole paycheck on the same old wreck

And brother I can name you a few.

Yeah, I'm gonna get drunk and I shore do dread it.

Cause I know just what I'm gonna do!

PS: Lets Live Blog the Lions-Saints tommorrow! Should be a Good One!

ValHalla!!!!

[Jus sayin]

Rob that was really bad. No. REALLY bad.

[IMAWriter wants a Harbaugh as HC]

With Peterson around, we'd better pray he doesn't call Gunther Cunningham, whose record at KC was even worse than Herm Edwards.
Only good thing about Cunningham is he could out p-iss even Rex Ryan in a cursing contest.

Somehow, I've convinced myself (with the help of my previous post regarding assistants wanting to coach for Fisher) that jeff is the best choice.

I have to say he really was into the community here. Also, it doesn't hurt to have a coach who is deeply connected on the rules committee and such. Officials may actually start giving us a break.
Thankfully Johnny Greer left the building a few years ago. Talk about Dolphin Hate.
Sorry for the OT. Happens to older guys. LOL

[IMAWriter wants a Harbaugh as HC]

Odin...
Saints by 10...at least.

[robert in az]

So Fisher will decide next week on the Dolphins
or Rams sounds to me he can take it or leave it. Most people think because the Rams have Bradford he will choose the Rams but Bradford is not as of yet a franchise QB. I hope the Fins are still going to interview other canidates while he mulls his decision over.

[clem]

I hope the Fins are still going to interview other canidates while he mulls his decision over.

Posted by: robert in az | January 06, 2012 at 07:44 PM

Do you read? Fins have been interviewing candidates non stop.

[rob]

Hire sandusky from Penn st. He is a players coach

[ALoco]

I SEE BROWN DONKYS ARE OUT IN FULL FORCE, WHY DOS FIND NEW COACH BE MEAN TO THE GREAT ODEN?, FIND COACH, PLEASE ESPLAIN.

[oscar canosa]

I am anxious to see Dont'a Hightower in action. He made pancakes out of Mike Pouncey last year. If we could have him on our side, it'll be a good thing.

[ALoco]

OSCAR,TELL US ABOUT TIME WHEN FOOTBALL WAS PLAYED WITH OUT HELMETS.
(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

[oscar canosa]

Well, I can tell you when I played without helmets, and it wasn't a good thing.

[New Coach Wanted]

Phins78,

You are confused about fact, opinion, and probability. I have not said one thing that was not a fact in the post you find objectionable. I didn't want to explain it in detail but so it can be put to rest, let me explain facts.

Fact 1: No coach who won a Superbowl has ever won a second Superbowl with a different team.

Fact 2: There are a number of coaches who have failed to win a Superbowl with their first gig and won a Superbowl with their second gig.

Fact 3: Cower, Billick, and Gruden have won a Superbowl. They are in fact 1.

Fact 4: Fisher did not win a Superbowl with the Titans. He is in fact 2.

Fact 5: The probability that Fisher wins a Superbowl with the Dolphins is higher than the probability Cower, Billick or Gruden would win a Superbowl.

Now just because you may beat the odds in the future, ie. Cower does something no one else has ever done, doesn't change the fact that the probability is virtually nil. You may believe that you are going to win the lottery (opinion) but the chances are great (probability) you will not. That is a fact.

Now, lets cover opinion.

You may argue that picking a first time headcoach is a crapshoot. You may pick a first time headcoach who does brilliantly (McCarthy), or you may get a moron (Cameron). That sentence is both fact and opinion but I digress. Anyway, you may argue that based on history, the odds of the Dolphins picking the right guy are slim to none while we know what we are getting with Fisher. (Again, a mix of fact and opinion.) In this case, I would opine you are probably correct and the safer bet would be to choose Fisher just to eliminate the incompetence of Ross and Ireland.

[ALoco]

NEW COACH WANTED, THERE ALWAYS A FIRST, NOW PLEASE APOLOGIZE TO ALL BLOGERS FOR YOUR POMPUS POSTS.
(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

[FP4FGs]

LOL At New coach, That is funny.You can Almost bet the farm that Ross And Ireland will indeed pick the wrong guy.

[stewart]

I don't want Fisher. All the clowns here will be asking for his head in three years.

They guy has had more losing seasons than wining.

Also, who wants a coach that has to wait a week to decided if he wants to come to your team. This guys is a jerk.

[Gone West.]

Live Blog At 7 pm 1/7/2011 Conducted by Cuban Menace.

[David mullen]

Its funny that most if you have a man crush on Flynn... wasn't everyone screaming for Orton at the beging of the year? How did that work out for Denver and KC? Flynn was a 7th round draft pick... he had one good game and now everyone wants him. If he comes to Miami and has a bad game all of you will say how much he sucks.... philbin seems solid he may not call the plays but he prepares the game plans and so on. Fisher is proven but as soon as he starts losing then everyone will want his head.... everyone just needs to chill and let the cards fall where they fall. We will have our day... hopefully sooner than later.

[oscar canosa]

When is the Game between LSU-Alabama? Some papers are mysterious about it.

[sqwak]

oscar learn how to google. what a bird brain.

[FP4FGs]

Live Blog At 7 pm 1/7/2011 Conducted by Cuban Menace.
Posted by: Gone West. | January 06, 2012 at 08:46 PM

I always wondered what happend To Cuban.He Was funny.

[oscar canosa]

Hell, whomever they hire what can we do about it except to suk our dik?

[ALoco]

FGFP, HE GOT FIRED FROM HIS JOB FOR SELING HOT WATCHES AND NOW LIVES WITH FLIPER BREED AND ODEN AND 50 CATS IN ALABAMA.
(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

[oscar canosa]

Ahh, next Monday. Thankyou.

[oscar canosa]

How about that, you write "when is the game between Alabama and LSU", and they answer you. We's all smart as hell. Thankyou.

[oscar canosa]

He should be ashamed of himself.

[ALoco]

OSCAR, TELL US ABOUT YOUR FIRST LOVE?, WAS IT A WOMEN NAMED EVE?
(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

[1BMFDolphinfan]

Chudzinski is the only choice. There is factual evidence that proofs this. First, look at the job he did with Cam Newton. Secondly, look at how Phillip Rivers suffered without him. The only negaive is that he's going to be selective on the organization he goes to and we all know the Dolphins brass (Ireland, Peterson, Ross) are a bunch of clowns that will screw things up somehow.

[oscar canosa]

Funny you ask. Of course it was.

[ALoco]

BMF IS APLYING FOR THE MARINATED ACORN GROUP I SEE.
(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

[butt head]

what happened to the cuban menace??? I heard that some guy named NJ phin fool kicked his butt.

[DublcOtown13]

Very sad state of affairs that out of Cowher, Gruden and Fisher, that Fisher is the only one who would even consider taking the job. As coveted as a HC job in the NFL is, and Ross preferring an experienced, WINNING! coach, it is bizarre that only one candidate being interviewed even meets those credentials. WOW!

[victor]

hey isnt Regis Philbin retired anyway..

we'll take him only if he brings kelly ripa

bahaaaaaaaaa

[oscar canosa]

Can you blame them, Dublc?

[sqwak]

Fisher will take the Miami job. Its prestige, attention St. Louis is where people go to die.

[DublcOtown13]

Now just imagine if Fisher rebuffs the Dolphins' overtures. Talkin about embarrassing. The team will be scrambling to save face. They might frantically start calling around and offer Billick the job or even beg Tony to come back. Brace yourselves!

[oscar canosa]

Personally, I have no illusions about a magic HC or QB that can turn us into instantaneous contenders. All I hope is, that whoever it is, don't upturn the Cart.

[tiredfinfan]

If you really think about it, its not an easy decision. On one hand Fischer's numbers don't exactly look that great. 6 winning seasons out of 17? And what celeb players was he known for bringing to the Titans. I can only think of Chris Johnson? On the other hand, do we want another Cam Camoron experience with an unproven head coach? As for the QB, it seems like Flynn is the best option out there now unless Manning becomes available. We will have to give too much to beat other teams and move up in the draft to get Luck. Forget about RGIII, I saw him play and was not really impressed. Well lets all cross our fingers and hopr we don't have another crying season in 2012!!!

[victor newman]

dont like fisher..dont like the stache..
the stache doesnt win Super Bowls...
rather have Billick..