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Miami's 'intimate knowledge' a good thing

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The Dolphins hired Joe Philbin as their head coach. He was the offensive coordinator at Green Bay and so one supposes he is familiar with Green Bay reserve quarterback Matt Flynn, who is expected to be available as a free agent this offseason as he searches for a starting job.

Philbin hired Mike Sherman as his offensive coordinator. Sherman was the head coach at Texas A&M where one supposes he became very familiar with starting quarterback Ryan Tannehill. Tannehill is available in the coming draft as perhaps the third or fourth-rated quarterback in the draft.

General manager Jeff Ireland, meanwhile, is a graduate of Baylor University. One supposes he still has ties to Baylor, where quarterback Robert Griffin III did great work in winning the Heisman Trophy in 2011. Griffin will be in the draft and could be the first or second player selected and a target for the Dolphins if they get the hankerin' for trading up.

So, pardon me for doing a lot of supposing here, but I'm supposing the Dolphins should have an advantage over other teams when it comes to knowing and understanding Flynn, Tannehill and Grffin.

"I guess you could suppose that, couldn't you?" Ireland told me during his appearance on my radio show, Armando and Perkins on 640 Sports (640-AM in South Florida) Tuesday. "Yeah, you know, we have some intimate knowledge of a lot of different people. Obviously with Mike and Joe and my ties to those universities and obviously the work that our scouts do -- my pro scouts and college scouts and how they surround themselves with resources and people -- we have intimate knowlege of the market. And that's a good thing."

It is a clear advantage in a situation where more information is always better. Of the five top quarterback possibilities for the Dolphins this offseason, including Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck, the Dolphins are ahead of the game on the three mentioned above. They obviously have work to do in gathering information on Manning and Luck, but I have serious doubts Luck is within reach so really, the issue is they know three of the likely four players on an "intimate" level.

Advantage Miami.

The Ireland interview is below. In fact, the entire 8 o'clock hour of the show is below, including our interview with Mike Florio of Profootballtalk.com:

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Ireland is aware of the comments about playing with elite quarterbacks that Brandon Marshall made following his winning of the MVP award at the Pro Bowl.

Marshall said his job was easier when he was catching passes from elite quarterbacks because they "put the ball in the right spots." Marshall also agreed with me when I said on my twitter account that if the Dolphins improve the quarterback position, they improve that position and Marshall at the same time. He retweeted my tweet.

Some of you took exception with the comments for various reasons, among them that they were a slap at Moore. Ireland disagreed.

"I don't know if it's a slap in the face at all," he said. "Matt did a nice job this year. And he's going to continue to develop as any quarterback we bring in is going to do. When you're over there and playing with Pro Bowl quarterbacks, they do things differently than some other guys. They're there for a reason. You've got the Tom Bradys of the world, and obviously he wasn't over there, but you have the Ben Roethlisbergers and Drew Breeses of the world and they're Pro Bowl quarterbacks. They play at a little different level than other quarterbacks. But that's not a slap at Matt. Matt did a great job and I think Brandon would tell you Matt did a great job."

I agree.

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The Dolphins continue to fill out their coaching staff. I've been told Jim Turner, a longtime friend of offensive coordinator Mike Sherman who served as the Aggies offensive line coach the past three years, is close to being hired in Miami. I presume he will coach the offensive line.

No announcement has been made by the team. Turner has never coached in the NFL. He did coach at Delaware, Northeastern, Harvard, Temple and Louisiana Tech. He also served from 1990 to 1994 in the United State Marine Corps.

So one supposes discipline will not be an issue with his unit.

Semper Fidelis.

 

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Ohio,

Yeah he played in Washington with some very bad QBs and still was effective. He is a 1 rules violation away from a year long suspension so that has to be a factor but Miami rolled the dice on players with checkered backgrounds with Marshall, Vontae Davis as well so we'll see.

If Miami decided to not address the TE and instead goes WR I would like to see Mario Manningham. He stretches the field and has made some really big plays for the Giants. Plus he's a Michigan man! lol

The Dolphins will continue to stink until they get an elite QB. And Matt Flynn aint it. LOL

OMG, did you guys know the Pats picked up Lou Polite? I didn't know that. What a lucky b*stard. Would never have seen the SB in Miami, now he's in the big game. I'm happy for him (but still want his team to lose).

Good point on Fred Davis, guys. This guy is coming into his own. DC pointed out that Davis was just suspended four game and I believe next time will be a season. Bit of a risk there. Do we know that it was for weed or was it PED? I missed the details of that.

Reagrdless, good player and I'm with Dc on this one, if he doesn't sign a long-term deal he will likely be franchised. Which begs the question, would Landry not be an upgrade over Bell? I've always been a fan of this guy but I truly believe he's DONE. Great pick, I think in the 6th round but not worth the money any more.

Anybody like the WR Douglas from Atlanta? He's been playing as a number 3 in Atlanta but I think he could be a good number two. From what I remember of him he has good speed. Could be a guy who can open up the field a bit and won't break the bank.

Craig, it was weed. Him and Trent what's his name (the 1st-rd LT they got a couple years ago).

I agree on Landry, the guy can't play 1 game without being injured. Too bad, he's a good player, definitely an upgrade over Bell. Just always injured. I wouldn't want to risk it.

Craig M,

Landry would be a huge upgrade over Bell. Landry doesn't offer much as far as a ball hawk type but he is a freak athletically and is a hard hitter who can make plays that Bell can't. However his injury history has to be a concern. He probably will expect big money as well.

Not sure why People want to erase YB. He was, by far the MVP of the d backfield last year and probably of the whole D. Containing these speedy modern TEs is not up to the SS alone.

DC,

Thanks for that. Yeah maybe Landry's not the answer but it's time for some younger legs at the position.

Not great numbers on Douglas (ATL) but I think he's been under-utlized......possibilities...

oscar, because that's all he can do. He can't cover my 96 year old grandmother. He's definitely upgradeable.

oscar. they don't block in the pb btw.

oscar,

We don't agree on Bell. To me, he was a non-factor last year. He was frequently out of position, and late to the play. I just don't see it in this guy any more and at $5-6 million a year, I think that money would be better spent elsewhere. I was a fan of this guy at one point too.

I'd like to see Jones put in as SS and find a real FS.

Don't know enough about Douglas. Don't see him used much in Atlanta.

Well, it's 3 vs 1, so I go by the majority. But the guy is a competitor, the only player that was going full out at the end of last Season. Probably Belichick will pick him up.

oscar, don't go with the majority, stand by your convictions. You may be right in the end.

It's better to die on your feet then live on your knees.

Andy, I was surprised personally that the dolphins didn't draft manningham in 2008. He slid hard.

Toronto,

He slid because he ran a slow 40. I remember he ran like a 4.6 plus and then on his Pro Day did like 4.58 or something. However, he said he doesn't track he plays football or something along those lines. He doesn't look slow playing. He averages 14.5 per catch in his career and always seems to find away to get behind coverages though. I don't speed is an issue with him in the NFL. In NY they already have Cruz and Nicks so Manningham will be expendable.

Manningham,

BTW he wouldn't be a star of stars type of WR in Miami but someone to push Hartline who has been given the starting position by default the past 2 years.

WR,

A true diamond in the rough (acorn) is Laurent Robinson of Dallas. He really came into his own in Dallas. He had 11 TDs and the Dallas offense didn't miss a beat when he filled in for Miles Austin. He may be even a better risk/reward option. Dallas obviously has Dez, Miles, and Witten they can't afford to sign Robinson to even #2 WR money. Not sure what anyone thinks of him but I think he might even be better then my biased opinion of wanting Mario Manningham.

DC,

I went on a rant about the Pats getting Polite when we could have really used him this past year.

I think that was during that month or 2 that we didn't see in the blog at all though.

Ohio, not sure how I missed that one. Crazy. Lucky him, he's finally a bride. We're all just bridesmaids.

oscar, jmo on the coconut.
if u want to watch a real nt,watch wilfork on sun.
wow.doubled and still gets through.
lol

I'm not sure if you were on vacation or what, but it was during that long stretch you weren't in here

At any rate, good for him, but I hope Eli kills his team

Andy, upgrading the wr corps would be nice in any manner seen fit. Just add talent.

Anyone know, is Mando in Indy?

Toronto,

Yup! Miami can't go at it again with Marshall playing along with Hartline and Bess and then acorns of the world like Marlon Moore, Roberto Wallace and Julius Pruitt.

If I had my choice of scenarios in the offseason would be to add Flynn as the biggest signing and to draft a WR in round 1. Take your pick who they think will be better in Michael Floyd or Alshonn Jeffrey. I personally would love Floyd in round 1 and don't even feel it's necessary to trade back. I think he will rise on draft boards to around top 10-15 status after the combine when he jumps out of the building and runs a sub 4.6 40.

Reggie Wayne... I believe he'd be a perfect fit at #2 WR and he'd make Marshall better. His savvy in the locker room alone would help develop younger WR also bring in Tommy Streeter from the U in 3rd rd. he will be a steal

yes he's getting old but from what I've heard he isn't slowing down and wants to continue to play for a while. had 980 yrds this year on a terrible team with no QB

beerphin,

I like that plan too! Wayne and Marshall would be one helluva WR duo. Best we have seen in Miami since the Mark's bros. I wonder how much Wayne will see on the open market as far as contract goes. I personally don't get into that because contracts can be guaranteed money vs signing bonus but just wondering would his price tag be so high that Miami would have too much committed to the position overall with Marshall and Wayne.

Also I wonder "IF" Peyton plays does Wayne sign there too? Possibly but not guaranteed. Both have to do what's in their best interest $$$$$$

Streeter 6'4 4.4 40

andy, IF Peyton plays I think Miami will be one of his top choices to come play. A QB prolly has longer time in Miami cuz weather and training but also it'd be one hell of a matchup him vs Brady in AFC East

sometimes I like to wear a sheer top so my hard nipples can poke through the soft fabric. Feels nice

Why does Miami do exactly the opposite of what rest of the league believes in?

Draft QBs - check

Never enough pass rushers - check

Never enough playmakers - check

Miami spends countless resources on the O-line of all positions. I'm not saying the O-line is not important but Sparano was an O-line coach. He should be able to take what is considered lesser talent or rough around the edges guys and develop them into good players. Instead Miami went boom or bust with 2 injury riddled linemen via free agency, Smiley and Grove and spent countless draft picks on guys who don't contribute or never contributed, Shawn Murphy, Andrew Gardner, John Jerry

Oh Jenny,

If only you weren't a 42 year old man in your mother's basement......if only

Mondo, help me out on this, OK? You tweeted if the Dolphins can lay their hands on an elite QB, that elite QB will help make Marshall a better WR. So Marshall re-tweeted your tweet. Help me now, how can an elite QB help Marshall catch the ball better? Marshall the "knife target", dropped 14 balls, 5 being of the TD kind. Moore throws the ball better then most in the NFL and its not his fault Marshall has hands of stone two or three times a game and drops passes. What you need to do Mondo is list the qualities of an elite QB. Write them down on paper and show us what we need to be looking for. Elite QBs have this, that, what ever makes them elite. Ill bet your Matt Moore isnt far from that list, if there is one. Some, in the know, people worry about Matt Flyn not having enough experience and being a product of GreenBays talent. Well hells bells, aint that true with every "elite" QB in the NFl. Theres not one SB team that doesnt have a good offense, defense, kicking game, special teams, coaching, the whole ball of wax. The QB is just one cog in the wheel,,,,,ITS TEAM WORK.

Guys don't forget that Wayne is 33 years old and starting to break down. I'm not saying no to him, I'm just saying there might be some better options. I really like Colston, for one, I just wonder if he might not be too expensive.

Dang Craig, what're you saying? I'm 38, are you calling ME over the hill?

Let's check the age discrimination on this blog. Geesh, way to break a man's spirits.

Obviously joking Craig, but I did feel old reading that.

mock w QB 1st

1st Ryan Tannehill QB
2nd Zebrie Sanders OT
3rd Tommy Streeter WR
4th Kheeston Randall DT
5th Olivier Vernon DE
6th Matt Daniels S
7th Tank Carder LB

DC,

I'm 44....doesn't mean that 10 years ago I would have been a good answer for the Dolphins at WR....LOL.

Seriously, I would like to see an upgrade there.....just don't know if it's in the budget.

5 is no's?

I'd go after Colston 1st too but he is likely staying w/ Brees in NO. Nicks imo is going to be the odd man out when they resign people in NO

Reggie Wayne is a special player maybe HOF? I don't think he is slowing down or wearing down he played every game last year and had close to 1000 yrds with no QB

still a top 10-15 WR in league.

Beerphin, Hello you play to win the game. Wayne wont help us

also Colston will cost twice as much

beerphin,

It's not an AWFUL idea but he has played in the league for ELEVEN seasons. I think he's going to be out there....I just don't know where he fits in terms of 'best' options for the team.

Yeah, I'm hoping for an upgrade to WR also. But I see other holes being more important (RT, S, OLB, TE). That might have to wait until next year.

One question on Hartline, can he get open? It's like he has 1-2 plays a game where he's open, then he's quiet rest of the game. Why do you guys think that is? Is he a poor route-runner, gets pushed back from the line? Or is it that Moore just wasn't targeting him (like I suspect he wasn't doing with Bess)? But it was kinda the same with Henne (whereas Bess and Henne worked well together). Can't figure out what's up with that.

#2 WR

See Spiderman, that's why Sparano didn't bring you to NY with him.

You play to win the game. What kind of ish is that?

THAT'S NOT THE DOLPHINS WAY SPIDERMAN!!!!

beerphin,

I agree that colston will likely be expensive. How much more, I'm not sure. But maybe if there are guys like Wayne, V. Jackson, Desean Jackson and Bowe out there, his price might not be crazy. I think NO is going to have a problem keeping all their guys. They may look at it and say, 'we've got a good stable of WRs, maybe we can let Colston go'.....I don't know. I do know they are deep!

also he would mentor guys like Gates and hopefully Streeter. I hope they don't pass on another UM guy.

thing with Jackson and Jackson , Bowe, and Colston they are all #1 guys who expect #1 money ie check Marshall's contract. having two WR that cost 10 mil and 8 + mil a year will be too expensive

NO has three guys worth top money Brees Nicks and Colston. they will probably only have enough for 2 of the three unless someone takes paycut

Wayne's veteran leadership should help Marshall and teams will have to cover both hard or Wayne will kill teams. His mental upside and intangibles alone would be a difference maker. But yea I don't see him as a long term guy. Just someone who can produce for the next 3-4 yrs and retire in Miami

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R--a2JsVcHc

Mostly this years highlights

beerphin,

Tracey Porter is a FA too. Might be a guy we should look at if he becomes available. Our depth and talent at Cb isn't great.

yea we do need help at DB. But Tracy Porter is either super clutch or he is getting torched. He isn't an upgrade over Smith and not sure even Will Allen.

DC it isn't Hartline's speed so I'm guessing he is getting jammed up on the line hard. But to go into next season with him opposite Marshall is a mistake let him cut up linebackers in the slot we all know he is a tough guy he can handle it...
I would trade Bess for a 2nd and Hartline for a 3rd to anyone not in our division. Go after Streeter and develop Gates

And I know nobody is going for those trades but I think letting those two guys go will be a mistake for less. Welker all over again...

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