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No deal yet on Jeff Fisher

Regarding the only topic anyone wants to know anything about right now:

Jeff Fisher is still not the Dolphins' coach. Or the Rams' coach.

He was scheduled to make his decision on either the Rams or Dolphins on Wednesday. I do not know if he did that. My sources got suddenly vague at one point, refusing to tell me if negotiations were underway on a contract or not.

All I could get out of one was this: "No deal done."

I did ask about the NFL Network story that said Fisher was close to a decision and leaning toward the Dolphins. Dolphins didn't know anything about that. So if Fisher is close to deciding or has decided, I cannot tell you.

Fisher has been speaking with both teams (either directly or through his representation) over the past few days -- apparently to get clarificcation on certain issues.

It is interesting this has not happened yet because it shows that neither organization -- neither the Dolphins nor Rams -- is a slam-dunk in Fisher's mind. Both have positives aspects. Both have negative aspects.

Understandable since both have been strangers to the playoffs most of the past decade and as for playoff wins? Zero.

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At this point I think I would rather keep bowles. Fvck fisher. He can go pay for his tans in a salon in missouri instead of getting tanned for free on south beach.

No worries. Nothing will ever go wrong again in Miami. Jeff Ireland will make us a contender. LOL!!

DC,

They're all arrogant pricks. That's what you get with leaders. Doesn't matter if we're talking head coaches, QBs, politician, rock stars. Whatever....they're in positions of leadership and they move and think differently than you and I.

Who is it you are all upset about not grabbing as assistants for next year? Who is it that you think we're missing out on? First of all, we still have all the guys from last year. Some of them may/will be retained. Secondly, I think a guy like Greg Williams will be our DC next year. His contract's up in NO after this year and he's tight with Fisher. I expect they've already had a few conversations about it.

And I am NOT Ok with any of the mediocrity we've had but nice try....

So you and others would do what right now? Say bye Fisher and hire who? Today I guess, versus wait to hear from Fisher today or tomorrow?

Too funny.....I hope Jeff Fisher knows what he's in for. Guy hasn't even coached a down yet in Miami and the fanbase has turned on him.....

Run Jeff.....and don't look back. You'll be glad you did.

Jiff Fisher SUCKS. If we hire him look at the last 10 years and that's what we will still be. Losers.

Cowher is the only HC that can clean house and turn this around.

Posted by: NY "G" | January 12, 2012 at 08:25 AM
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First... (and very much foremost) Bill Cowher is no longer a Head Coach in the NFL. He is a Television Commentator and annalist for CBS... That has not changed, and has not even been remotely close to changing in over 3 year.

Second... (and apparently should be taken seriously) He is not in the negotiations, picture, outlook, forecast, near or distant conversation, family of similar items or even the reasonable prayers of the sane.

Third... Money (Big, well stacked, newly printed and available in any denomination and Nation or Origin) is not the issue... Ross would likely give Cowher whatever he asked for... The man is perfectly content doing what he is doing and not having to answer to owners, Media or fans who would be outraged when he did not walk on water, raise the dead and promise his return after the world ends even though it is what people such as yourself believe to be true....

Fourth... Neither Ireland, Peterson, Nolan, DaBoll, any other coach, player assistant, water boy, secretary, carpenter, lawn maintenance personnel, plumbers, janitors, hot dog vendors, insect control personnel, bus drivers, Pilots, cheerleaders, OR ANYONE ELSE DEAD OR ALIVE that is associated with the Dolphins organization and football teams job or status would be untouchable should Cowher tell Ross it is that person or group of people who is keeping me from signing a contract with Ross and the Dolphins to be head coach...

And Fifth or Lastly..... I do not blame him one damned bit for wanting to stay just where he is until the day he does want to return to coaching either in the NFL or High School if indeed he ever does at all.... WHY...? You may ask.... That answer can be found mostly explained in the #3 Reason why Cowher should just be forgotten about.... Because if having to deal with the fans that have been brought to bare against team in the last 20 years or so was the 2nd choice of having nothing to do but talk football on TV with HOF QB's and other coaches.... I would stay right where I was also...

Because here is a news flash in case you haven't "Got It" yet....

"No matter who takes over in Miami as Head Coach or Young developing QB out of the draft... there are ALWAYS going to be people such as yourself who come into the picture being absolutely CERTAIN you know more then those who have done this for a living since they either quit playing or got their degree in athletics or business management"... and will be right here on these blogs demanding for them to be fired.... or telling us all how big of a BUST draft pick they are..... And some folks have just had enough of that and no loger want to play you dumb games...

There now.... I hope I have spoken the last word on Bill Cowher... and hopefully people will not act like the "Dumber" guy in the movie "Dumb and Dumber" and say after being told the woman would only want something to do with you if you were the very last person on Earth... with you saying "Then there IS a chance still???".....

have a great day.....

I think this only looks bad at this time. the last report out there was he was close with the dolphins. Historically with these types of reports the "rumor" is put out there to try and get more money or quicker action from the "other" team. correct me if I'm wrong Mando.

Not saying this is the case, but more often than not it is strategic Jockying. Or howevr you spell that crap.

Why would we spend millions on another WR? We need an OLB and a Rt tackle.

dc......... DON'T FORGET TO WATCH PATS VS DENVER NEXT SATURDAY @ 8;00 PM .......... TO WATCH THE BEST QBON EARTH (( BRADY ))........


IN THE LAST 15 PAGES ON THIS BLOG , YOU ONLY READ PEOPLE WRITE NOVLES ABOUT CRAPPY HEAD COACHES AND CELLAR TEAMS ........

If Fisher sucked as some of you claim, like Rich Kotite "who sucks" there would not be this much hype about him.

He is a solid coach guys. I dont know if he is the answer to a SB, but no one does. But to say he sucks is slightly unwarranted with his resume. JMO.

Look you don't have to like him, Im indifferent. But I will say most of the teams and performances he has with houston/Ten I would gladly take over the crap we have had here for a while.

NY "G" - your response please.

There's a TON of small details that have to be worked out with this type of deals. Details that most of us aren't even aware of. Most of you have probably never changed jobs or locations or careers before. Take that and multiply it by what ever factor you want. That's what's involved with making these deals work. Nothing simple about it.

But let's be the Raiders....let's do this kind of stuff every year........why not!

I'm so glad we didn't hire Cowher or Gruden, and I'm not that sure about Fisher either.

ALoco is in love with Tom Brady.
ALoco has posters of Tom Brady in his bedroom.

Who would you all rather have?

Jeff Fisher who is torn between Miami and St Louis? (This must mean both jobs are not very attractive to him)

OR

Brian Billick who would love to come here and coach this team?

IMO Fisher is not worth waiting for!

If we hire Fisher he'll pull something out and grab some coordinators from other teams we didn't expect, that's the one main positive most people are overlooking are his connections and reputation. Chud and Zimmer would have a harder time building a top tier staff than Fisher would. I'd keep Nolan if we can which leaves us with an OC (glad its not Josh Mcdaniels)

I want Fisher to come here, my concern though is that he won't and we'll miss the boat on other good candidates. With that said, I don't see jobs filling up from folks we should have wanted anyway yet. Certainly not Mularkey.

You guys think Bill Cowher coming to town would have been much quicker and much easier?

Yeah OK....got some swampland you might be interested in. You tell yourself that.

Go back and look at how long it took JJ to come to town. I'm sure you'll say, 'look how that turned out'. He did fine.....except that he QUIT what he started.....maybe he should have taken more time. Maybe he would have seen what he had ahead of him. Saban too. No longterm commitment from either guy....

WOULD YOU RATHER HAVE......... TOM BRADY OR JEFF FISHER OR MOORE ?

Fisher is not my first pick, but I would certainly welcome him as the next HC. Ross wants him and reports are that he's willing to pay a king's ransom, plus key to the kingdom to get him. That's Ross's choice. But I hope Ross keeps a cool head about this and learn from history. Huizinga went down this path with Parcells and we know how that ended. If I were Ross, I'd contact Fisher, give him a final offer with no more negotiation, and a deadline. Ross has to realize that you can sometimes lose by winning. Meaning, what happens if he makes Fisher the highest paying HC and ended up with a lousy record (think Parcells again)? Sounds like the Rams would win in the end (think Atlanta not getting Parcells but Matt Ryan). Ross should realize there's no guarantee for winning - just a guaranteed payment in salary compensation (a big one) for Fisher.

I'm beginning to think head coaches don't want to live in Don Shula's shadow. We fans do have pretty high standards here.

OK, I'm out guys....you guys fight it out....

Craig M,

The biggest free agents on this team are Paul Soliai and Vernon Carey. I don't see Soliai being resigned because he will get a big pay day because of his size and ability to play a 3-4. Too many teams have switched to a 3-4 and there aren't enough players to go around to fit the system. He will be in high demand. Carey got more comfortable as the season went along playing OG and I think he is a good fit there. He has lost some athleticism and sliding to OG is a natural fit. He grew up in Miami, played college ball at the U and plays for Miami. I think he stays home.

The biggest free agents out there that can help Miami are possibly at FS or WR. Michael Griffin from the Titans is FA and would finally sure up Miami's biggest weakness on D. He could take this D to another level. Not sure outside of him who else there is and I'm sure his services will be in high demand. If Fisher ever gets off his high horse there may be a connection there.

Also at WR there are a few guys out there that can help. Miami seriously needs to find a guy who can consistantly get open. Hartline is a nice depth guy but he can have a nice game 1 week and disppear for a month. QB play has something to do with it but he isn't reliable to be a week to week #2. There are several guys who can easily be tagged and Miami has money invested in Marshall but he is only on the books for another 2 seasons so DeSean Jackson, Dwayne Bowe, Mario Manningham, Laurent Robinson all come to mind that would be good fits at #2 Wr.

GRAIG M.... FOR THE RECORD YOU R SUPPORTING FISHER TO BE THE HC FOR MIAMI AND ALSO SUPPORTING THE GARAGE MANAGER ,SO IN A FEW MONTHS ,I HOPE YOU DON'T DENY IT AND TRY TO SQUEEZ OUT OF IT .........

First lets get the coach. Next do what you need to do to get Matt Flynn! There will be no QB worth taking at #8, so GET MATT FLYNN!

HAWK.......YOU HAVE THE HIGH STANDARDS OF A CELLAR .........

ALoco,

I'll be right here. You can remind me about it.


And it's C R A I G.....with a 'C'.....

Try it....

Cheers!

For those of you who think that Ross giving Fisher organizational power and money will lead to a trade up for RGIII, get a clue.

IF Fisher comes to Miami, the only way he did it is by making the Rams out to be losers. What are the odds that the owner he embarrassed makes a trade with him and allows him to get the qb he really wants?

The odds are against the Rams trading all the way back to 8 or 9 with the Browns and Redskins needing a qb, but with Fisher the probability goes down to 0. So, if you really want the Dolphins to try for RGII, you should hope Fisher goes to St. Louis. If you think RGIII isn't a sure thing, then Fisher makes sense. The Dolphins won't get both men.

SORRY CRAIG....

The problem with the 4-3 defense is it can't stop the run as well as the 3-4. That means a couple of years retooling the 5th ranked defense into a 20th ranked defense.

We may never get back to such a high level once Fisher takes over.

HAWAK.....WHAT HIGH LEVEL....WE R LIVING IN THE CELLAR...........


TRY TO REALISTIC ............

TRY TO BE REALISTIC ......

Fisher go away! Fins need an offensive minded coach! Go after Mike Martz!

Hawk1052,

The 3-4 and 4-3 has no bearing on whether 1 is better then the other at stopping the run. It's about the players executing. But if I had to choose one it would seem a 4-3 is more suited to stop the run. You have the extra guy on the line of scrimmage to take on blockers to allow your LBs to fill. Remember Bowens and Gardner and Zach would clean up. Seems logical that a 4-3 is better againts the run IMO.

From a fins fan in Toronto: if the Rams hold the number 2 slot in the draft, and lose out on Fisher, what makes anyone believe they'll trade to Dolphins? They'll withhold the pick out of spite, no?

OK, I'm out guys....you guys fight it out....


Posted by: Craig M | January 12, 2012 at 09:14 AM

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Craig M post 4 or 5 inflamatory post.....and then says..."you guys fight it out"....

If only I could have some of what Craig M was drinking....

I'm not sold on fisher

I'd like Philpin.

ANY HC WITH A MUSTACHE IS NOT TRUST WORTH ,,YOU CAN SEE FISHER ALWAYS THINKING ,NEVER SMILES .........

DID TS HAD A MUSTACHE ?

If we get fisher we won't trade with rams to get RGIII we'll trade with vikings sitting at 3. If browns or skins want RGIII bad enough to trade with rams then so be it. But I doubt they will.

DOES COWHER HAS A MUSTACHE ?

A few people have posted the same idea. I wonder if a third party comes in like the Raiders and messes up the whole thing. Its not like it hasn't happened before when Parcells was linked to two teams and then winds up with the Fins. Something we all know was regrettable in some aspects.

Craig M is at it again. Ego maniac telling everyone what how comical everyone is. How dumb we are.

What's comical is that youre more predictable than the weather! Thank god youre here to set all of us dumba*ses str8!

Fun facts on a snowy day in NH:

No NFL Coach has ever won a Super Bowl with two different teams.

The following five coaches have brought two different franchises to the Super Bowl.

Don Shula (Baltimore Colts, Miami)
Bill Parcells (New York Giants, New England)
Dan Reeves (Denver, Atlanta)
Dick Vermeil (Philadelphia,St Louis)
Mike Holmgren (Green Bay, Seattle)

The chances of Fisher bringing Miami to the Big Dance is slim to none....just saying, it's really HARD to bring two teams to the Superbowl and the name above are Hall of Fame type names.

Why would we spend millions on another WR? We need an OLB and a Rt tackle.
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In my opinion, we need someone to better compliment Marshall and I'd rather go after a proven veteran there than a rookie, who are notoriously unpredicatble at that position.

Vincent Jackson - 6'5, 238 pounds (28 years old) and ran a sub 4.5 at the combine 7 years ago and has 1,000 yards receiving 3 out of last 4 years. The one he didn't was because of holding out.

DeSean Jackson - short and small but sub 4.4 speed (25 years old) Almost 1,000 yards each of his first 4 seasons. Passing teams are dominating the league overall now (Green Bay, New England, New Orleans). I'm not saying we don't ALSO need the positions you mention, but going after a WR doesn't preclude us pursuing those as well.

I don't see any real young star players in Free Agency at OLB, tackle, or guard. Additionally, those can be harder to decide upon if you don't know your defensive scheme yet, which we don't.

Guys,

You do realize the Rams are a professional football team? If they do decide to trade the pick they will take the best offer out there. They won't hold a grudge against Fisher because he chose another team.

And I seriously doubt you will have to worry about Miami trading up for RG3 because the Browns have 2 first rounders this year and 2 fourths as well so they ball is in there court when it comes trading up. Miami can only offer future #1's

Not necessarily, Lou. This is a business where the only thing that matters is winning and there's limited supply of talents, so you can't take things too personally. If Dolphins or Redskins offer a highly favorable trade package to the Rams, I'm sure they'll consider.

Are we still holding out for the next "savior" of the FINS....

has the "anniointed one" not made his decision yet...is he still in counsel.....

All this hype for an average coach....

We NEED somebody who WANTS to be here....and is QUALIFIED to be here....

I hope Ross pulls the plug on this circus today....

The FINS deserve better.....

NHFINSFAN........ WHAT SUPER BOWL ?


WE JUST NEED NEXT COACH TO TAKE US OUT OF THE CELLAR FOR NOW........

BE REALISTIC .......

As for Fisher, sign on the dotted line by 5 or move on. It's been a week already. If he doesn't know if he wants to coach this team by now, make the choice for him. Hire Bowles or Zimmer.

Has nothing to do with being held hostage. He knows what he's got in Miami & what he'll have in St, Louis. Man up & make the decision.

If he makes a bad choice, at worst for him, he'll be a miserable millionaire. CRY ME A RIVER!

Craig, Saban took his time, Wayne put more pressure and he still bolted. If a guy isn't ready to kill someone for this job, I don't want him.

NH, fisher hasn't won a superbowl yet so if he wins with the phins it'll be his first.

Cowher is an annalist? Ouch, poor women in Pittsburgh and Carolina...

Boulder...the fact was about coaches who bought TWO different teams to the Superbowl. Fisher bought the Titans and now is being hired to bring the Fins...I'm just saying his chances of succeeding are slim to none based on the record of those who have tried.

But you are correct, he came up one foot short of winning in the most dramatic SB finish in its history.

This is getting silly. King Fisher is 8-8 thru his coaching life. Why does Ross or you Mando believe Fisher is some kind of savior? He aint that good and hes lazy. King Fisher wants everthng in place so he wont have to work.
Ross, move on, hire Chud, Zimmerman, or whoever, lets roll !!!

Dolphins are a total joke.

Trade J Long to the Rams and the Dolphins first to get in their slot. Select RG3. Oh and Fisher pull the offer on that SOB. Dont let these coaches hold you hostage. If he doesnt want to be a Dolphin F him!

Not as big a joke as the Jets.

Ross, MOVE ON!! Fisher is making a fool out of us! NO ONE is worth all this B.S.! He don't want the job, Look elsewhere. It's not that hard of a decision. South Beach vs. Muddy river! Rams are too flaky. Let the Rams have him! If he can't decide on this, how will he make game time decisions on the feild???

Ross should get down on his hands and knees and BEG Fisher.

I agree with the posters here who say Fisher's best days are behind him.

He lacks the "young mans ambition" that every man in their late 40's early 50's realizes is fading away every morning when the get up...

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