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Source: Bowles return to Dolphins unlikely

Joe Philbin is about the business of hiring a coaching staff right now. And while many of Miami's assistant coaches are excellent at what they do and the club denied some of them permission to interview with other clubs the past two weeks, their chances of staying seem slim now.

Philbin talked to interim head coach Todd Bowles Sunday and the message didn't exactly suggest the new coach is eager to retain Bowles. In fact, a source close to Bowles just told me the club's secondary/assistant head coach/interim head coach will not return to the Dolphins.

Obviously this can change at the last minute -- just google Chip Kelly. But Bowles is not in Mobile, Ala. for the Senior Bowl representing the team and he was told to feel free to search for other opportunities if he likes.

Bowles and Philbin are scheduled to speak again on Wednesday to finalize the plan for the assistant, but the source tells me the vibe when Philbin and Bowles talked last time was he was told he's free to find another job and Philbin would not hold him back.

The Wednesday meeting, meanwhile, is not expected to be anything formal. It's supposed to be a phone call, unless Philbin changes his mind between now and then.

Bowles, meanwhile, is going to do exactly what he was told: He has one year remaining with on his Dolphins contract. But he's going to search for opportunities elsewhere.

He's not alone. Philbin is setting a course to revamp the Miami offensive staff. I was told not to expect too many coaches to be retained from that offensive staff.

One coach who is not expected to be retained is offensive line coach Dave DeGuglielmo. Philbin, a former offensive line coach, wants to instill his way of doing things and he obviouslyy wants his people. He has already reportedly reached out to Jacksonville offensive line coach Andy Heck. Googs, as he is affectionately called in the building, is headed to the New York Jets with longtime friend Tony Sparano, according to a league source.

[Update: The Florida Times Union is reporting the Jaguars are retaining Heck.]

Wide receiver coach Steve Bush also leaving the Miami staff, according to a source in the agent industry. Assistant wide receivers coach Ike Hilliard's status is uncertain, according to the same source.

[Update: Hilliard has been hired by the Washington Redskins, that team announced today.]

Offensive coordinator Brian Daboll had feelers from other teams after the regular season. The Dolphins denied him permission to interview elsewhere, according to a source. While his fate in Miami has not been sealed, it is a long shot he will return to the staff, according to a source.

Daboll may wind up in either Kansas City or with the New York Jets.

A source close to linebacker coach Bill Sheridan also tells me he'll be leaving the Dolphins. Sheridan was with the team two seasons.

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If you all want the correct up to date 411 on the Dolphins go to there Facebook Wall. There are so many rumors, slander, gay-bashing and bitching on this site that I have to weed out to get into some intelligent discussion. Some of guys (including women) need to get therapy, smoke a joint, get some sex, all the above or just go f@#k yourself.
Philbin has the authority to pick any and all of his coaches. At 6-10 no one is safe. Anyone with good sense should be exhausted with the "Dallas Connection". The next move is get rid of some busters on the team. That's how you motivate people to perform.

What's WRONG with this guy. Philbin's been HC what, 36 hrs? WHERE'S HIS STAFF? WHERE'S THE NEW PLAYBOOK? WHERE'S THE NEW TEAM PHILOSOPHY? How long do we need to wait?

On another note (and I know this is tricky trying to be gray on a black & white blog), but, two things I respect about Chad Henne: his toughness and his heart. Henne recently was asked about his future, and let it be known he really, really wants to stay down here in Miami. I respect that. All the abuse he's taken, all the negativity and poor record, he STILL wants to be a Dolphin. We need players like that.

With that said, I don't want Henne to still be here come next Season. If it happens, something will have gone wrong in the search for a QB. Matt Moore fills Henne's role better than Henne anyway.

So, sorry Chad, love your heart, but you gotta go.

wipe that bum clean jp.

I know Omar over at the other paper was eaten up with Bowles, but what exactly did Bowles ever do?

He has some nice talent in the DB's, but none of them have seemed to really improve or become elite.

You guys need to re-visit my posts from Sunday. What did I say?
I said philbin would start off Monday watching the Phins 2011 season from game 1.
In game 1 he would see Chad Henne put more yards on NE than any team this season and set an NFL record doing it.
He would also see:
-Brandon Marshall drop 2 TD passes
-Fasano latering the ball to the NE defense
-Reggie Bush gain all of 10 yards (Henne led the team in rushing also that game)
-Marc Columbus playing RT
-Our defenders rolling around on the turf while the plays were still in progress with leg cramops.

I told you on Sunday that's what Philbin would see Monday.
And what happened Monday? The Ol coach, the WR coach and the secondary coach were all fired.

How's that all-star cast of coaches that Philbin is putting together coming along?

odin,

You read a post and miss the point. You are the guy who can't see the forest through the trees.

It is funny to see you miss the point though and then rant about others. The irony.

The attacks on me about being pompous and condescending only work if you acknowledge and accept my superiority. So the real issue is you would like me to be more deferential and make you feel better about yourself.

and another thing:
Jeff Darlington writes yesterday that Peyton is Phins first choice, RG3 is second and Matt Flynn is third.
How does that make sense?
Those are not 3 equal choices.
Those are 3 completely different offenses.
Peyton equals Brees. They both are potential free agents. How was Brees left off the list?
And RG3 does not equal Flynn.
RG3 is a Michael Vick offense and Matt flynn is a Matt Moore offense.

Can anyone believe the idiots in San Francisco sending death threats to Williams for fumbling the ball in the 4th quarter?
That is just outrageous and uncalled for. It's only a game!

some people have no life lou.

Smf, you really think there's even a one percent chance brees doesn't re sign in new Orleans? We had our chance twice. That ship has sailed. The greatest missed opportunity in the history of this franchise and the idiots they had calling the shots.

Only a Fukkin idiot moron retard mustache wearing franchise destroying piece of shits loser would think a nickel corner would he more valuable than a first round grade qb when you have two all pro corners and your starting qb average less than two hundred yards passing per game.

Philpin talks the talk and apparently he can walk the walk. Whats all the bruhaha about Bowles? Hes under contract for another yr. Either he stays and works out his contract or Philpin fires him and Ross eats another contract. Hope Bowles stays, hes an asset, unlike some of the deadwood thats already been cut.

After 5 head coaches and who knows GM's. Let's hope we finally get the message in a QB league that we get the right Qb. This team has been a day late and more than a couple of dollars short for a long long long time. Back in the 90's we had a QB with NO NO RB. In the early 2000's we went out to get a RB Ricky "COC" with NO QB (Jay "Arthur" Fiedler). We need to look at how the Giants and the Pat's get the Super Bowl a QB and receiving players TE's and WR's did we not look at Hakeem Nicks no real big names (TRADE MARSHALL). Ireland has to make this right this year. Or they we go again with another rebuilding year.

DRAGON............

FIRST RULE WHEN HIRING A NEW HC;


1- FIRE ALL THE COACHES AND FIRST FIRE THE EX HC/SECONDARY COACH BOWLES..........ALL THAT TALK ABOUT BOWLES IS JUST TO FILL PAPERS AND BLOGS ............

Good Morning guys,

Hey DC I wouldn't hold my breath on a playbook or whether or not there will be a defensive scheme change (3-4 or 4-3) because Philbin is part of the Dolphins motto now of why give the fans anything to get excited or talk about. It's always wait and see with the Parcells/Ireland way of doing things.

I don't think offensively there is much to say. I think he hit the nail on the head when he said what is a West Coast offense. Granted that's the principle of the offense but coaches over time have added so many wrinkles to it that it is just an offense. Now the high/low (guys in same passing window, 1 on a deeper 10-12 yard post or crossing route and the other 4-7 yards underneath running a slant therefore in a zone a LB has to decide what to do drop deep and allow the underneath catch and run or play the underneath guy and hope the safety comes up and isn't over the top) of the West Coast principles are there but as a whole the West Coast offense originally was way different then anything in todays game.

A run first team or even a 50/50 run/pass team is not true West Coast yet Gruden in Oakland ran it that way, Shanahan in Denver and now Washington the same.

I think once he hires the defensive cordinator we may get an idea of what they will do but don't hold your breath for anything concrete. With the versatility of the D-linemen and even with Wake and Misi I would like to see a hybrid defense similar to what Saban ran at times. On some downs 4-3 and others 3-4 and sometimes guys standing up. Miami has the players to do it. Wake can do either and is most effective with his hand on ground. Misi appears lost standing up and might be better getting a chance to play with his hand on the ground in passing downs, Odrick can play inside or out and even Dansby is versatile enough to move around. That's what I didn't like about Nolan personally. He was so base and vanilla for a 3-4. When he moved guys around they made plays but he rarely did it.

I NOTICE THAT ARMANDO HAVE NO GOOD ARTICLES SINCE JT RETIRED ,HE LOST HIS MOLE INSIDE THE DOLPHINS ..........AND LOSING ALL THESE CRAPPY SO CALLED (( COACHES )) WHO ARE GETTING FIRED FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER .....................

Mike Sherman was one of the most successful NFL coaches while at Green Bay. His .663 winning percentage at Green Bay is 2nd only to Lombardi and the Packers were one of only two teams to make it to the playoffs 4 consecutive seasons. He led the Packers to 5 consecutive winning seasons and three division titles.
Philbin seems to want to bring in people who have been winners in the past and I don't have a problem with that.
One last note, Philbin did not replace Sherman. Sherman was the head coach in Green Bay and he hired Philbin as an assistant offensive line coach in 2003.
Finally, Sherman ran a west coast offense while at Green Bay so one would have to assume he would be doing the same if Philbin was able to lure him to Miami.

DC....... HOW IN HELL YOU WANT THE NEW HC TO GIVE YOU HIS PLAY BOOK FOR THE DOLPHINS WHEN HE WAS JUST HIRED FEW DAYS AGO....HE NEEDS MONTHS TO DEVOLP A PLAN .....

IT'S NOT A BURGER KING .


(( BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE )).....

LOU...NICE POST @ 10;02 AM...........

WE STARTING TO HEAR GREAT NAMES LIKE SHERMAN ........


NO MORE ;

COX
BOWLES
TONY SPARANO JR OR

DABALL...........................

Without a doubt this IS a rebuild year. "out with the old and in with the new!"

Andy,
If you notice, a lot of teams have bigger OLB's that rush the passer and are good at stuffing the run.
That is why I have Miami taking Ingram in the first round in my mock. He's 6' 2" 276lbs so it would be like having an end in the game during running or passing downs but he would be playing the OLB position in the 3-4.
He kind of reminds me of Terrell Suggs. Ingram is a great athlete and, despite his size, can move well.
If Miami gets the chance to take him they should do it. Then, they can either keep Misi for depth or they can trade him for a draft pick either in 2012 or 2013. I believe you can still trade players for picks during the draft under the new CBA. I could be wrong.

Peyton is the talk of the sports radio this morning. Sure doesn't sound like he's going back to Indy. On the other hand, not sure we have the package he's looking for either. But I'd like it if he came.

I really think we'll be the best fit for Peyton Manning. We have a decent talent on the offense and our defense isnt terrible. New York is old and has locker room problems, Redskins have no talent, Forget the other 2 places. Get Peyton Manning down here, only if healthy, he's the only guy who can compete with Tom Brady in the division.

MARK...NO TO PEYTON,,,,,,,,, THE COLTS KNOW HIM BEST,,,,,,,,IF THEY DON'T WANT HIM ,SO DO WE............. OUR NEW HC WILL DECIDE ON YOUNG PLAYERS LIKE ROGERS AND FLYNN........................


NO
MORE
RETIREMENT PACKES FOR OLD PLAYERS LIKE PEYTON AND HEAD COACHES LIKE FISHER

Anyone think Jerry Jones would take a shot at Manning?

WE R GOING TO BE LIKE GB IN THINKING AND PICKING PLAYERS ,NO MORE THESE CRAPPY OLD THINKING AND WAYS OF DOING THINGS .......


OUR BLOGGERS SHOULD COME UP WITH NEW IDEAS AND NOT REPEATING THIS CRAP OF GETTING OLD PLAYERS LIKE MANNING .

Tuesdays prophecy-
If Miami brings in Mike Sherman as OC then say hello to your next drafted QB, Ryan Tannehill.

Or we can offer Dree Brees the largest contract ever over offered to a QB,Ross is always saying money isnt an issue, so why not

Just a side note on Philbin.

He did the same thing in preparing the "packet" that John Harbaugh did in preparing to become a head coach. It may not be as big as what Harbaugh had prepared but Harbaugh was taking notes for a number of years on the types of things he would incorporate into his team should he be given the opportunity to be a head coach. It's probably one of the reasons he's been successful. He prepared himself for that day rather than waiting for it to happen and then start putting a plan together.
Philbin did something similar which says to me he likes to be prepared and has a simialr mentality, in that, he already had in mind what he wanted to do with a team if he had the opportunity to be a head coach.
It will be interesting to see if all of the preparation results in a significant difference in the preparation of the team come preseason.

Professor Lou,

I wouldn't mind a rookie pass rusher to go along with Wake because Misi hasn't showed anything other then he is an effort guy. He seems to have only 1 move which is a bull rush and he get overwhelmed at times by bigger players. Now in a 4-3 he would be even more overwhelmed in rush situations but maybe he finds his way as a strongside backer with less responsibility. Not quite sure what to make of Misi but the transition as a 4-3 DE in college who wasn't over productive to a 3-4 OLB has been up and down with more down.

Melvin Ingram and Courtney Upshaw are similar builds about 6'1 275 give or take a few pounds but I don't typically like them sort of players. They are very hard to project because under sized DE's and OLBs have shorter arms and have to fight to get inside of blockers. There are the exceptions of Harrison, Woodley 3-4 and even Freeney in a 4-3 but I can't name to many others. I think they are the exception as opposed to the rule. I like longer guys at the position but I respect your opinion and if that's where they went then I'd be on board even if skeptical.

AndyNJ, You forgot Elivs Dumerville in Denver.

ESPNsucks,

good prediction on Tannehill. I could see it happening. I guess it comes down to what Philbin thinks of Matt Flynn vs what Mike Sherman has on Tannehill.

Flynn could of had the fluke of all fluke games but in 2 starts has played really well. He shows he does have the capability to play in the NFL. I guess it comes down to whether Philbin thinks he can do that on a week to week basis or just be a spot starter.

Tannehill is as raw as they come and Miami has so many needs (QB, RT, WR, rush OLB/DE, FS) so a 1st round selection on him would be disastorous IMO. He probably will be gone late round 1 or early round 2. If Miami stays put and he falls in their laps the way Andy Dalton fell into Cincinnatti's then I would be fine with that. A trade back up into round 1 for more than likely a 1st rounder in 2013 for a prospect who is raw as a college QB let alone a NFL QB, would be a "WTF are they thinking move" to me.

Tuesdays prophecy-
If Miami brings in Mike Sherman as OC then say hello to your next drafted QB, Ryan Tannehill.
Posted by: ESPNsucks | January 24, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Maybe. But, if it happens, I wouldn't expect him to be the starter in 2012. Tannehill is too raw and he probably will sit for a couple of years and learn. If someone takes him and puts him in his first season I could see him having a year like Gabbert. Also, a lot of people here have a problem with Henne's accuracy on long passes and Tannehill is just as bad if not worse. A & M did a lot of receiver screens, screens to their backs and short passes over the middle. Thus, his high percentage of completions. A lot of his average yards per play came from his receivers getting yac.
When Tannehill went deep he tended to "launch" the ball without setting up properly.

Armando.....when are you gonna right a congratulatory post for PHILBIN.....

Yeah, we know Ross wants a franchise QB but there just might not be one available and Peyton may retire.

bree$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

ALoco, I don't think manning is your typical older player. I'd ride his coattails for a year or two. And more importantly, Ross is absolutely serious about getting a FRANCHISE qb. Only manning and brees (who will be franchised at the least) are free agents who fit the bill. Only luck and griffin from the draft.

Brees and luck are unattainable. So its either going to be manning or griffin.

Personally I think the only team standing in our way for manning is the 49ers.

If they want to go 4-3 they have the horses for it.

Dallas is interesting, Lou. Tough to figure out what is holding Dallas back because in paper they look so good. Tough to fire romo though. How can he really be blamed. Tough spot for the cowboys. Romo isn't putting you over or holding you back.

Spiderman,

Good one. Forgot about Dumervil. But again not a long list.

If Miami were going to take a chance on a quarterback I would much rather it be Foles than Tannehill.
Foles didn't win a lot of games at Arizona but the team was terrible as a whole.
However, when you look at the body of work between he and Tannehill there's a huge difference.
Foles threw for 4334 yds, completing 69% of his passes and had 28 tds and 14 int's in 2011. In 2010, he threw for 3191 yds, completing 67% of his passes and had 20 td's and 10 int's. He did that on an Arizona team that was not very good with a less-than-stellar supporting cast of wide receivers and tight ends.
Tannehill, while more athletic than Foles, only has a season and a half of experience under his belt. It would be a different story if he was the next Cam Newton but his play doesn't warrant the attention he is getting. In 2011, he threw for 3744 yds, completing 61% of his passes and had 29 td's and 15 int's. But, I caution. Tannehill's completion percentage could have been in the 50's if it wasn't for the number of short passes and screens he threw in games in 2011.
Finally, his broken foot is going to probably set him back in the draft because he will not get the exposure in the Senior Bowl and the Combine. So, unless he has a huge pro day I wouldn't expect him to go in the first round.
Personally, I think he's third round material.
I have him going to the Redskins in the third in my mock

MARK,

STOP THINKING THE OLD WAY,THINK YOUNG,CREATIVE AND YOUNG QB LIKE FLYNN OR ROGERS,,,THING THE GB WAY ...THEY PARTED WITH FAVRE AND STICKED WITH THE YOUNG ROGERS,WE DON'T NEED MANNING OR BREES................

KRIS,,, ARMANDO SAID (( MY SOURCES TOLD ME BOWLES WILL NOT COME BACK ))....DO YOU NEED SOURCES FOR A SURE THING LIKE BOWLES THE EX HC TO BE LEAVING ......PHILBIN WILL NOT ALL ANY ONE TO SABOTAGE HIM........

Manning to Dallas,

I would gladly take Romo off their hands if that's the case. Romo does have a penchant for shtting the bed but he is a very good QB although not elite. Very good is 10 times better then anything we have had in Miami (save Pennington).

I don't see it happening though. Expecting even the great Peyton Manning to come in and have a Super Bowl or bust situation would be too much. Having to learn a new offense is tough for anyone. They may look good for 3 qtrs but come crunch time they may not have the go to play or comfort level with a particular player to have the same effect. It would be an unfair situation for Manning to walk into. Although he is one of the all time greats and more than likely would embrace ANY and ALL challenges.

I think SF would be a ready made team for him. Great D (Dallas suspect D), great running game and better O-line then Dallas. Dallas does have the better weapons with Miles and Dez and Witten though but again the obstacle of what to do with Romo. I think SF would gladly say "thanks for the whole 17 TDs Alex but we will take Manning".

Daboll-ocks did sweet FA at Cleveland and the same at Miami.I'd love him to join Sparano at the Jets,better chance for two wins next year.
Please don't bring in defensive coaches from teams,eg Green Bay, with crappy records,pick somone who is successful.
No more coaches like Daboll-ocks please.

I told every one of you stupid people after the first game that Patriots would win Super Bowl this year. Fins had a lot of bad breaks. We were very close, in fact, and could easily have gone 12-4, which we will likely do next year, as long as we have Henne healthy.

We are so blessed to have not one, but two, pro bowl caliber QBs, in Moore and Henne. You wait and see.

Professour Lou,

Good point on the broken foot setting Tannehill back. If he is there at our 2nd pick in round 2 I'd feel fine with him being taken. With that said that means Philbin thinks Flynn played a horrendous Lions D and Patriots D not prepared or under estimated him and aint worth spit. I still think Flynn to Miami is going to happen.

If Flynn comes to Miami I would love to see their 1st round pick be for Michael Floyd. Mark my words I feel this strongly about Floyd he is going to be the real deal. He is faster then Marshall with the same body type and better athleticism. I'm not a Notre Dame fan. I'm a Michigan fan so I have no reason to be biased for him. I just think certain guys stand out on gamedays and he is one of them. In college (granted against corners who will never smell an NFL training camp in some cases) Floyd is a problem week in and out. His QBs stink to btw. He goes up and over guys to catch bad balls and he also runs past and around guys. He is very athletic and fast for his size 6'3 225 lbs. He and Marshall are similar but not the same player.

Wow, pro bowlers in henne and Moore, wtf

mark, as in strikes and spares and splits.lol

AGREE W/MUSTACHE MAN ON HENNE AND MOORE,,,,,,AT'S ABOUT CONFIDENCE .......

IT'S

I NOTICE MOST BLOGGERS IN THE DAY TIME ARE EDUCATED LIKE MARK,ANDY AND AT NIGHT ALL THE DROP OUTS SHOW UP AND THE TONE TURNS VERY UGLY VERY QUICK LIKE DB/YG ,CUBAN OR ODIN SOME TIMES .......

As far as QB I would say Miami will go after Manning (Depending on health and if available) or Flynn. If they don't land either of them then look for them to take one in the 1st or 2nd round in the draft. An ideal situation to me would be to get Manning and pick up either Foles or Tannehill in the draft to be groomed behind Manning.

I would prefer a trade back in the first and pick up another 2nd round pick. Then select Foles or Tannehill there. If we don't get Flynn.

Dear Mr. Aloco

I'm probly not one who should talk because of the nonsense I post, but I agree at night time there's alot of vulgar, hate and malice in alot of posts.

I hope you checked out the link I posted for you last night in reguards to Godzilla.

Go Phins...sports talk

Soiled :)

I don't feel overly warm and fuzzy about Sherman possibly coming in as OC. I mean I could be wrong but, did the last 68 year old OC work out?

Texas,

Sounds about right. A very good short term and long term solution possibly. I'm very interested in seeing how hard Miami pursues Flynn. If Miami doesn't go hard then other teams might become weary of it as well. Philbin after all has worked with Flynn for 4 years and he would know more then anyone if those games were a fluke or some abberation of what Flynn is capable of or if he is a legitimate starting caliber QB.

Texas, probably any team getting manning will be done with the understanding that the premium picks will be spent on players to improve the team now. For example, I don't think manning goes to any team that leaves the optimal open of spending either the first or second pick on a qb. Its got to be a go for broke mentality.

Matt Flynn = Proceed with caution

(see: Rob Johnson)

Much rather try to trade up for RGIII. I'd rather grab Weeden in the 3rd round. Come to think of it, if it came down to Flynn or Henne, I'll take Henne.

Only a Fukkin idiot moron retard mustache wearing franchise destroying piece of shits loser would think a nickel corner would he more valuable than a first round grade qb when you have two all pro corners and your starting qb average less than two hundred yards passing per game.

Posted by: Mark in Toronto | January 24, 2012 at 09:36 AM


Mark,

I've been reading the posts since yesterday and everytime somebody mentions Brees it makes me laugh, if the Saints were to let him walk away they could possibly KISS their HC Peyton goodbye as well, those two have a partnership beyond HC/Player with careers joined at the hip and Brees with easily 4 to 5 years of over the top Football left.

You know you could take your post a bit further in acknowledging the BIG misses in the last 15 years that would have impacted this teams fortunes dramatically. In 96 we passed on Ray Lewis for D.Gardner (JJ got his pass because he lucked into Zach but Thomas as good as he was is not in the same League), passing on R.Moss in 98 for J.Avery. Then as you mention Brees for Jammar Fletcher. Worth noting that in the deal for Ricky (never got us to the playoffs) the Saints pass on Ed Reed with our pick.

I know hindsight is 20/20 but the picks I've mentioned were NO-BRAINERS in there respective drafts. You couple that with this regime passing on Rey Maulaluga for Pat White or Calais Campbell for Merling and of course ignoring the 3 best T.E.'s in today's game and you understand why we can't get out of middle of the pack. I hope for Philbin's sake he gets better draft results because if not it won't make a difference how good a HC he is just ask Bellichik about his time in Cleveland.

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