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... And another thing that makes Manning wrong choice

A couple of days ago I made the case why I'm not too fond of the idea of the Dolphins signing Peyton Manning to be their starting quarterback in 2012.

I'm not done.

Moving on from Manning's health questions, his age question, his eventual decline, his being a short-term fix at best when the quarterback problem requires a long-term solution, I've come up with annother issue to ponder as I continue to swim upstream on an idea the Dolphins apparently are intent on developing.

I was reminded by a former coach yesterday that adding Peyton Manning to your team can become a royal pain in the posterior.

The point was made to me that whatever team Manning joins will have to make concessions for him. The team will have to run an offense he's familiar with to maximize his talent immediately because, after all, he's going to be 36 years old and time is short. No time for him to learn a new system and get comfy in the system and start to produce maybe late in the year and maybe next year.

In the Dolphins case, that would likely mean new coach Joe Philbin and offfensive coordinator Mike Sherman learning a system Manning is comfortable with rather than the other way around.

So let me get this straight: The Dolphins hire Philbin because they admire his work in Green Bay. They like the Green Bay model. They like the Green Bay system. And he hires buddy Mike Sherman, who was at Green Bay and feels a kinship with Philbin and the system he wants to run.

And having all that familiarity available to them, the Dolphins would scrap it all to make Manning comfortable with a system similar to the one he's run the past 14 years? They would make Manning the de-facto offensive coordinator?

One of the advantages everyone assumed the Dolphins would enjoy by hiring Philbin was expertise on soon-to-be free agent quarterback Matt Flynn, who played under Philbin in Green Bay and is obviously familiar with that system. Assuming Philbin wanted to make some tweaks to the system, the foundation was still going to remain and Flynn was going to enjoy a head start if he joined the Dolphins because he is very familiar with that foundation.

And the Dolphins are simply going to turn their back on that?

That would be better?

I have to say this: The reason everyone knows the Dolphins are enamored with the idea of signing Peyton Manning if he becomes available is because owner Stephen Ross loves the idea. And he's the boss. He is apparently going to make this call come heck or high water.

Everyone knows this as fact because Ross has let his feelings be known on the subject.

But no one knows how Philbin feels about it. Nobody knows general manager Jeff Ireland's opinion on the subject. Don't they get a vote?

Do Miami's football men have the ability to say 'No' to the owner if all their football wisdom tells them to go in a different direction away from Manning?

Now, I suppose it is possible Ross spouted his opinion on chasing Manning after careful consideration and conversation with both Ireland and Philbin. (For Miami's sake, I hope that's the case.) But knowing the Dolphins as I do, my guess is no such conversation took place before Ross indirectly made his desires known.

Despite my worst fear, perhaps such a conversation eventually takes place and Philbin and Ireland are all in on Manning. (Something that will cause me to wonder about both men, but that's another story). At that point it won't be an issue that Philbin might have to subjugate his system for one that fits Manning. At that point it won't be an issue that ownership is dictating which quarterback the team must chase first before checking with, you know, the football experts. Those points would be moot.

But it still raises the question: Why have such a logical connection to a young quarterback after hiring his coach and then going in a totally different direction with an old quarterback? Is that fair to Philbin?

And will it work?

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And Vick was the FOURTH highest rated QB in 2010, which could easily be considered his career year. It was the only year his completion percentage topped 60 percent in his career. Look it up and lol@you home on the herald try learning how to read and process information

Get your Shine Box on RG3

Nothing but a Phucken NFL Bust and major waste of draft pick(s)

Ok Genius

Here is 6.2 Pat White IN COLLEGE b4 becoming AN NFL BUST AND BEING CARRIED OUT ON A STRETCHER AND QUITTING THE NFL

6.2 college QB Pat White passed for 6,049 YDs and passing 56 TDs 23 Ints

QB rating of 147.4

QB college Pat White rushed for 684 times and 4,480 YDs averaging 6.5 per carry and 47 rushing TDs

Thank HOME later for Not getting on the college sheeple RG3 bandwagon

have a HAARPy day :(

home is right

Odin,

U want to go out for a grilled cheese sandwich w me? :)

Odin....i like what you're saying today.....i got your back

Though I do completely agree with you home lol. Sign Peyton ASAP!!

Odin,

So i guess this means our Disney World vacation together is off?

Too bad Home was looking forward to riding
Dumbo The Magic Elephant ride w u

C'mon Odin 4give me
It will be fun me & u on the Dumbo The Magic Elephant ride going round and round and round

If RGIII is Pat White we can be assured Irescum will draft him lol

Vick was the 3nd best pocket passer in the NFL in 2010

only Tom Brady was better

check out Mike Vick's QB rating in 2010 against the other starting 32 QBs

NEVER QUESTION HOME!

* Mike Vick 2nd best QB in the NFL in 2010

Home has GF on lap, bouncing up & down

Excuse me

Home,

I guarantee I've attended more games than you ever did at the old Orange Bowl.

I've also went to Home games at Joe Robbie and seen the Phins on the road more than you Fo Sho Negger.

No go save the world from Alien invaders!

Don't forget your Foil!

Home....

If was the third........How could Brady have been the only one better??????

Kris, because I heard Misi was a Ireland pick. And because Parcells is already gone. I'm worried about TODAY'S FO (effing things up).

NO KIDDING, NO ONE EXPECTS MANNING TO PLAY 5-10 MORE YEARS. IF HEALTHY YOU GRAB HIM AND DRAFT TANNEHILL TO DEVELOPE UNDER HIM FOR 3 YEARS. HOPEFULLY 3 GOOD YEARS...

END OF STORY....

Home....

Nevermind my post.....I see you corrected it

Don't call it a comeback. I've been here for years.

Vick was the 3nd best pocket passer in the NFL in 2010
only Tom Brady was better
check out Mike Vick's QB rating in 2010 against the other starting 32 QBs
NEVER QUESTION HOME!

Posted by: Home on the Herald | February 10, 2012 at 01:24 PM

The Camaro was made by Chevrolet!

NEVER QUESTION ODIN! Duh!

Talk about delusional. This guy is quoting two year old stats and pretending he's NostraHomo.

Loosen up the Tin Foil AsssssWipe!

Everybody in the place, PUT YO HANDS UP!! PUT YO HANDS UP!! Everybody in the place, PUT YO HANDS UP!!!

If was the third........How could Brady have been the only one better??????

Posted by: Ohio Dolfan | February 10, 2012 at 01:26 PM

missed typed O D

was being pleasantly distracted by GF :)

Vick was def 2nd best rated pocket passing QB in the NFL in 2010 according to rating

Period

William Frawley was one of the most disgusting, vile creatures I ever had the displeasure of working with.

When there were scenes that required us to show affection towards one another it was all I could do not to violently spew vomit all over the soundstage.

I was thrilled when I learned of his death and remember hoping it was painful.

(Loved Desi, though. What a guy!)

You want a pocket passer? I'll give you a pocket passer: Jiz Bomeaunt

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Odin,

U drunkin lil varmint

Another blogger said 4th
and Home was reiterating Vick was in fact 2nd best rated pocket passer in the NFL in 2010

not a prediction
a statement

u used to be smarter Odin

what happened, too late in the day?
already regurgitating on your own boots?

lo

In all seriousness Odin,

We went quite awhile (months) w o visible chemtrails

The last 3 months we r getting annihilated by chemtrails here in south Florida

So how about that grilled cheese?

Umm I did check it - 1. Brady 111.0. 2. Rivers 101.8. 3. Rodgers 101.2. 4. Vick 100.2. Don't question me home, look it up instead

Odin,
U drunkin lil varmint
Another blogger said 4th
and Home was reiterating Vick was in fact 2nd best rated pocket passer in the NFL in 2010
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You in FACT erroneously proclaimed him 3rd. You were WRONG, and were trying to dodge it. As you posted Don't Question Home-ROTFLMAO-Classic Duh!
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not a prediction
a statement
u used to be smarter Odin
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Never said it was a prediction. I said you were quoting old stats as if two year old stats makes you a genius. You used to be dummer! You have no reading comprehension skills either?
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what happened, too late in the day?
already regurgitating on your own boots?
lo

Posted by: Home on the Herald | February 10,
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No, it's all those Chem Trails! There getting me Homes. HELP!

Bhwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

LOOKOUT HOMES, dem Chem Trails creepin up a hind ya!

Ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun...............

That is career NFL stats passing u r looking at marino4ever80

The stat Home is referring to is pocket passing
which is dif

A stat by completions, yds, etc WHILE INSIDE THE POCKET AND NOT OUTSIDE THE HASH MARKS!

It is in relevance to talking heads saying Vick is not a "pocket passer"

u r looking at generic overall passing stat which yes Vick was top 5 also #4 like u messaged

Pocket Passing only, Mike Vick was #2 in the NFL in 2010

Some of us read farther into depth than others ;)

Home talks in the 3rd person like Bob Dole and Aloco.

haha, makes Ohio laugh though

Time for me to be captain obvious and probably repeat things that have been said here, but I just joined in today.

Matt Flynn is not someone anyone should be clamoring for until we hear from Philbin about him. He was a 7th round pick for a reason, now if Philbin goes and get him, then we know he has develpoed. If Philbin doesn't we know he was not the guy, cause, hell he knows him better than anyone posting here.

Then I read WE BETTER GET RG III. ummm we do not hold the keys to that at all, in fact there are teams in better position to move up in the draft than we do. so WE CANT just go get RG III. Plus he is a rookie and we have no clue if he is as good as Peyton Manning, Michael Vick, Akili Smith, Tim Couch, or Ryan Leaf. All of which were "can't miss" 1st round QB's. I agree RG II has a better chance to be on the "better" side. But he is not, just like anyone is not "cant miss". Can't mortgage the whole draft on the guy.

Peyton Manning - If he is willing to sign an incentive laden contract, it seems to be the least risky option for the poential upside. IMO. He is not the future, but we can keep trying to find the future if he works out for about another 3-4 years. If he does not work out, we will be closer to drafting the future if RG III of Luck do not fall to us this year. Because there is a draft next year, or other free agents.

Drunk daddy,

mean Odin . lol

goes back to an hour ago

try to pay attention, there will be a quiz soon

Mike Vick was rated the 2nd best pocket passer in the NFL in 2010

yes, Mike Vick the running QB!

lol

Posted by: Home on the Herald | February 10, 2012 at 12:45 PM

you tube:

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aircrap.org › Chemtrail Evidence
19 hours ago – France Rare clouds with Massive chemtrail in daylight, Feb 2012.

Google:

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chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress.com/
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Home, I did go to youtube and watched, and I must say, it did get me thinking about it. this is still not the place for that type of discussion. However I guess I just justified you posting all of that here, because it did get my attention.

Google
you tube

The Wings of Lyra: Chemtrails Spraying 1pm 2 feb 2012 Scotland ...
wingsoflyra.blogspot.com/2012/.../chemtrails-spraying-1pm-2-feb-2...
Feb 2, 2012 – Blue skies turn grey spraying chemtrails midlothian scotland. Chemtrails Spraying 1pm 2 feb 2012 Scotland. Posted by Don Allen at 10:21 AM ...

simply google:

chemtrails feb 2012

and watch a few!

: Poizen | February 10, 2012 at 01:50 PM

Gotcha Poizen

good that u had the intelligence to even watch one video and read a little.

now u have been enlightened

the rest is up to u

We get every day here lately in south Florida. ughh! :(

The New World Order,... Does Not Want U!!!

Ahh no that is 2010 passer rating not career stats home. And please explain to me, by telling me what the pocket passer ratings of the 4 QBs I mentioned were in 2010, how did vick end up 2nd when he was 4th overall behind 3 guys who aren't exactly known for getting out of the pocket. I want to see numbers.....if you're right then you're right and I'll acquiesce..

: Poizen | February 10, 2012 at 01:50 PM

1st google: chemtrails feb 2012

and watch a couple 1-2 min quick videos

then we got a deal!

Not drafting ANY QB last year was insanely stupid.

If Manning is healthy, OK get him !!! If he's not, look else where... But I think Manning right now, is fools gold !!!!!

Already did Home. Actually last night. VERY INTERESTING. I will admit, for the 1st time, it is hard to believe ALL of this was by chance... It was the first time I saw the correlation to the work Tesla was working on. that is where I can see how some feel as you do, and you may not be wrong. Not saying I have 100% buy in. But I will tell you I will spend more time doing some research, and I do not feel you are full of useless babble any longer. :)

Clint, I think at worst he is fools bronze... My point, no one is looking at him to be the buy from early 2K... But with 80% of who that person was, with the right system and supporting case it can win a SB. It would be fools gold if we spent 10-15 mil a year. He already stated he will sign a incentive based contract.

If we draftd a QB last year, this could of ended up worse. We have a new coach who may not have liked the guy Sporano drafted. Keep it in perspective.

Move forward, new coach, new idea, hopefully new "better results"

Drunk daddy,

-Odin wouldn't claim you. Odin blame you're Momma for spendin Bortion money on Crack when she was pregnant with ya's.

mean Odin . lol
goes back to an hour ago

-Odin has a life and can't post 24/7. For the record, you was wrong then, you just wrong. Odin don't like all yo bullshyt.

try to pay attention, there will be a quiz soon

Odin don't pay no tention to CRAZY! Odin just laugh and laugh and yo Chem Smokin arse.

Mike Vick was rated the 2nd best pocket passer in the NFL in 2010
yes, Mike Vick the running QB!
lol
Posted by: Home on the Herald | February 10, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Odin don't give two squats bout no Mike Vick.

Odin wonder what you smoking?

I love inhaling chemtrails. They make a great match with Marlboro lights.

Also, my original point was that Vick in fact does not stay in the pocket enough to be considered a pocket passer, I don't care what he did when he happened to stay in the pocket, he gets out of the pocket too much for it to actually matter. If he's so great when he stays in the pocket wouldn't it be smarter for him to just stay there a greater percentage of the time, like the other three guys I mentioned generally do?

you tube:
France Rare clouds with Massive chemtrail in daylight, Feb 2012 ...
aircrap.org › Chemtrail Evidence
19 hours ago – France Rare clouds with Massive chemtrail in daylight, Feb 2012.

Posted by: Home on the Herald | February 10, 2012 at 01:47 PM

Odin googled Michael Jackson's thriller.

But Odin don't believe in Werewolves!

Odin say: Bhwaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaa!

haha oscar

I refuse to talk about QB's anymore, so I will post, other things.

Uh oh, Manning having problems throwing the ball. Here's the deal, whether you go with Manning or Flynn(Philbin would know if he is worth going after) you still must get a rookie quarteback with a high pick(even the 2nd round)because you need a backup for the future. Even if you want to keep Moore we still would need an upgrade as much as possible. We have been suffering with the quarterback position and we must ensure that even if we hit it big with Manning or Flynn,we don't fall back into the quarterback abyss for many decades to come.

Has anyone else here tried Jack Daniel's Honey Whiskey?

I've been dabbling lately and it is excellent, very smooth

Hey, Armando, you seem to be broke. The Herald is. Don't worry, we will buy the Herald, in due Time.

Marino4,

You are correct.

Homes is comparing a negligable stat.

For example: Vick threw a 1000 passes.

10 he threw from the pocket and completed 7.

Therefor, in his Chem Trail Clouded Mind, Vick is awesome throwing from the pocket.

Do you really think that the New World Order will kill everybody with the chemtrails? No way, Man. Only the ones that are sensitive to them.

I am happy on Friday's and before Miami Dolphin's Football games. Aren't you?

Ohio,

Dabbling? Come on MAN, you're better than that-LOL!

Seriously, I haven't even heard of Honey Whiskey. But if Jack Daniels makes it, you can't bet your arse I'm gonna try it.

Is it More or less than regular Black?

BTW-Thanks :)

Does it look like single malt Whisky, Ohio? Might be cheaper.

Exactly. Thank you odinseye. No chem trails here in Tennessee lol

Posted by: Home on the Herald | February 10, 2012 at 01:47 PM
Odin googled Michael Jackson's thriller.
But Odin don't believe in Werewolves!

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phucking hilaaarious....

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