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... And another thing that makes Manning wrong choice

A couple of days ago I made the case why I'm not too fond of the idea of the Dolphins signing Peyton Manning to be their starting quarterback in 2012.

I'm not done.

Moving on from Manning's health questions, his age question, his eventual decline, his being a short-term fix at best when the quarterback problem requires a long-term solution, I've come up with annother issue to ponder as I continue to swim upstream on an idea the Dolphins apparently are intent on developing.

I was reminded by a former coach yesterday that adding Peyton Manning to your team can become a royal pain in the posterior.

The point was made to me that whatever team Manning joins will have to make concessions for him. The team will have to run an offense he's familiar with to maximize his talent immediately because, after all, he's going to be 36 years old and time is short. No time for him to learn a new system and get comfy in the system and start to produce maybe late in the year and maybe next year.

In the Dolphins case, that would likely mean new coach Joe Philbin and offfensive coordinator Mike Sherman learning a system Manning is comfortable with rather than the other way around.

So let me get this straight: The Dolphins hire Philbin because they admire his work in Green Bay. They like the Green Bay model. They like the Green Bay system. And he hires buddy Mike Sherman, who was at Green Bay and feels a kinship with Philbin and the system he wants to run.

And having all that familiarity available to them, the Dolphins would scrap it all to make Manning comfortable with a system similar to the one he's run the past 14 years? They would make Manning the de-facto offensive coordinator?

One of the advantages everyone assumed the Dolphins would enjoy by hiring Philbin was expertise on soon-to-be free agent quarterback Matt Flynn, who played under Philbin in Green Bay and is obviously familiar with that system. Assuming Philbin wanted to make some tweaks to the system, the foundation was still going to remain and Flynn was going to enjoy a head start if he joined the Dolphins because he is very familiar with that foundation.

And the Dolphins are simply going to turn their back on that?

That would be better?

I have to say this: The reason everyone knows the Dolphins are enamored with the idea of signing Peyton Manning if he becomes available is because owner Stephen Ross loves the idea. And he's the boss. He is apparently going to make this call come heck or high water.

Everyone knows this as fact because Ross has let his feelings be known on the subject.

But no one knows how Philbin feels about it. Nobody knows general manager Jeff Ireland's opinion on the subject. Don't they get a vote?

Do Miami's football men have the ability to say 'No' to the owner if all their football wisdom tells them to go in a different direction away from Manning?

Now, I suppose it is possible Ross spouted his opinion on chasing Manning after careful consideration and conversation with both Ireland and Philbin. (For Miami's sake, I hope that's the case.) But knowing the Dolphins as I do, my guess is no such conversation took place before Ross indirectly made his desires known.

Despite my worst fear, perhaps such a conversation eventually takes place and Philbin and Ireland are all in on Manning. (Something that will cause me to wonder about both men, but that's another story). At that point it won't be an issue that Philbin might have to subjugate his system for one that fits Manning. At that point it won't be an issue that ownership is dictating which quarterback the team must chase first before checking with, you know, the football experts. Those points would be moot.

But it still raises the question: Why have such a logical connection to a young quarterback after hiring his coach and then going in a totally different direction with an old quarterback? Is that fair to Philbin?

And will it work?

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Same Price Odin......the bottle even looks the same, just a little bit smoother, goes down a bit easier, great taste too.

By the way "Dabbling" = two 1 liter bottles in 2 weeks, lol

It haas been reported today that Manning is having trouble throwing to the left and across his body. I had a similar operation and had lost the strength in my right arm. I went to PT 3-4 days a week. I was in the OR for 11 hours. Now 4 years later, I am at 80% strength. Sorry to say, Manning will never be the same and should hang up his bots and go out in class. It tough to accept for any pro but there caomes a time when it's over. ross, 'MR. FOOTBALL MORON' willl sign him for his name. At 80%he will still be an improvement over our current situation. HOW ABOUT THE FUTURE. HOPE SOOMEONE FALLS OUT OF THE SKY IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. GAVEUP MY SEASON TICKETS LAST YAR AFTER 14 YEARS WITH 4 TICKETS. BE SMART...tHE FINS "BRAIN TRUST" is a true OXYMORON.

well the bottle looks the same but the label is yellowish

Marlboro lights are being increasingly hard to handle, and so is single malt Whisky. So I might go with that Cracker juice...

The NAACP said that the term Cracker is allowed in reference to white boys.

I think the Manning issue is pretty simple.

He has more than a month before Free Agency begins.

You bring him in at that time. Give him a physical, a workout and check any and all medical reports, old and new.

This will give you the best indication as to the level of his recovery. You simply won't be able to take out all the guess work as nobody will positively know until he steps out on the field in September.

It is what it is. There's going to be a certain amount of risk involved in signing Manning NO MATTER WHAT ANY DOCTORS, TALKING HEADS, COACHES AND GM'S SAY!

CHEMTRAILS. If you're going to youtube it, search for "chemtrails Miami Florida" and you'll get several examples on our sunny beach.

We need a good FS.

By the way "Dabbling" = two 1 liter bottles in 2 weeks, lol

Posted by: Ohio Dolfan | February 10, 2012 at 02:27 PM

OH! "THAT" kind of dabbling!

Why didn't you say so? That's "MY KIND" of "DABBLING"!

You ever heard of a place called Mecca?

Yeah, me neither. But Pilgramages to Lynchburg have been a Long Standing "Family Tradition" ;)

I think we need to be careful in the annoiting of Flynn as the next great QB. the guy has 9 career TD's 6 of which came in one game. that is not to say he wont b e a good player but realistically he could easily be the next Fiedler, Feeley, or Mitchell. and he is going to want big guarantee'd money. Manning has already said he would take an incentive loaded contract.that makes him cap friendly and low risk. If he is healthy, he will have something to prove and a motivated Manning is better than a already paid, nothing to prove Flynn.

Jack Daniels, eww

I'm a Chivas guy myself. But Johnny walker blue is very good but way overpriced.

YOU DID NOT JUST "eww" Jack Daniels?

Aww NO! Un Uh MAN!

Them thars Fighting Words HomeBoy!

AGREE!

Johnny Walker: GOOD!

PRICE: BAD!

Mark,

I had a bottle of Black Velvet Canadian Whiskey a few weeks back.

While I mostly stick to our domestic stuff,I must admit, it was pretty good.

Bulliet Bourbon is the absolute best though, hands down....Jack honey is a close second... seriously, you guys gotta try it!!!!

Mark,

What says you on Black Velvet?

Tell him Mark!

T-E-L-L H-I-M!

You people have very ordinary taste. Nothing wrong with that, just saying...

You people have very ordinary taste. Nothing wrong with that, just saying...

Posted by: david n | February 10, 2012 at 02:53 PM

Yeah, you wouldn't be saying that if you seen some of the Women I've brought home ;)

Well, it's been fun.

Getting ready to get the Kids Homework out of the way of the Weekend.

Were getting some 4 wheel ATV's delievered here sometime today............HOPEFULLY!

Ultimately, there will be risk involved with whoever the QB is this year. There will be risk with Flynn, Manning, RG3, Tannehill, Moore, etc, etc. They all have different question marks. Pick your poison.

Not familiar with black velvet. Had some nice single malts at my friends house during the super bowl. Wish I could remember their names.

Sorry Odin but jack is just so bad. How can you compare it to a nice scotch???

Mark,

Scotch is in its own elite category. In order order...

Scotch
Bourbon
Whiskey

But we can't always afford Scotch, so for the everyday man sometimes you settle for other stuff. Bulliet Bourbon is better than Jack though, and only costs a couple bucks more...look it up, it's a really good Bourbon

I happen to like black label (over blue and green). And it's cheaper, so it's a win-win.

But I recommend Pisco, it's a Peruvian spirit. The Peruvian kind is better than the Chilean. Most common drink with it is Pisco Sour, but you make a number of cocktails with it. Good for summer drinks (Miami Lemonade, etc).

DC, Gold is better than all that you refernce, but that being said I like Blue and Geen far better than Black.

BTW, Blue and Green are blended

Black and gold are single malt.

Ohio, try Blanton's Bourbon. It's a Kentucky Derby favorite. DELICIOUS!!!

If Manning is healthy, OK get him !!! If he's not, look else where... But I think Manning right now, is fools gold !!!!!
Posted by: Clint | February 10, 2012 at 02:03 PM

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I keep hearing this......."healthy Manning".....what does it mean?

Never had gold Poizen, I'll try it though.

Ohio, you forgot Rye Whiskey (I like it better than whiskey, I put it up there with Bourbon).

DC,

I'm always open to try new things, thanks for the suggestion!! I will look for it! Do you think they sell it in Ohio?

Good Call DC!

Bulliet actually just came out with a Rye version of their whiskey........delicious stuff!

Thanks for the clarification Ohio. I'm more of a Cognac guy myself. Remy martin!!! I'm not all that familiar with the scotch vs whiskey vs bourbon. But I do know that jack makes me wretch. Ordinary jack anyway.

Now all my friends on here probably think I'm a Boozer, lol.

Not really a boozer, just 27 and looking forward to the weekend without a "to do" list. (My wife is on a business trip in Arizona)

Ohio, they should (at your higher end liquor stores, not the ones with the ceiling to floor bulletproof glass). It's a grape spirit (I guess kind of like port, which is basically fortified wine). But it's a clear spirit. Dude, it f*cks you up! It's smooth, you barely taste it, but it works.

Mark, you might like it, I kind of likened it to a smoother, white cognac.

One of the better brands is Macchu Pisco

Ohio, I think you're a boozer because you're a Dolphins fan. Lord knows we need SOMETHING to get us through a Season. Only a sado-masochist would expose themselves to this amount of degradation and embarrassment without any chemical insulation.

Good point DC,

But A Dolphins fan will be until the day I day.

The several Bourbons, Whiskeys, and spirits we have discussed will be a huge help though. :)

*until the day I die........I'm sure you figured out what I meant though

..McCallan scotch is my drink of choice for sipping..Fernet Branca if I want to do shots..

Ohio fin...I'm not picking on you..To each their own. The JD honey whiskey is the drink of choice for the ladies in Montana...not all of them..just the windblown prarie hags we are famous for up here..Ridden hard and put away wet.

Haha Darryl,

I can see that....it is goes down much easier than straight whiskey.... no offense taken :)

My favorite...Bulliet Bourbon probably wouldn't be your "ladies" drink of choice though.

Pisco is excellent!

Tonight though, I will be enjoying some Bulliet Bourbon with a couple rocks.

Ohio..lol you are right about that!! The ladies like it(JD gold) with ginger ale..or with lemonade...Even in the winter..It is good as a hot toddy with some cider.

DC..Do you make Pisco sours the old school way with a raw egg?? It is the way to go..The liquour and acid from the lime kills all bacteria...It gives the drink an "Orange Julius" type of quality.

Alright Wolfman with the Bulliet!!!

Have you tried the new Rye Bulliet yet? It is excellent

I have not posted in awhile. I am sure I have not been missed.

Jusat wanted to type that I am more confident regarding the organizations potential next year than in the previous decade...(s).

I hope we sign Manning - meaning he cleared the medical scrutiny. Regardless of his age - and potential injury-risk factor - he'd be an awesome addition.

I hope we keep Henne, and he stays on the bench. This probable will cause the anti-Henne crowd to scream, but hell, I can throw in the ear-plugs and ignore ya...

Hope Moore keeps up his tidy performances...

And get Flynn too, if at all costs.

And draft a QB in the first round next year, if we cant get Luck this April.

Daryl, Montana sounds like a place to visit!

DC, thanks for the tip. I will look for it.

Mark in Toronto...Montana is great. I travel a quite a bit. I'm always happy to get home. If you ever end up in the Yellowstone area look me up..Suprisingly there are a LOT of Phin fans in Montana..The Griz have had more NfL players play in Miami then any other pro team..Going all the way back to Doug Betters(he transfered as a senior to Nevada, but was originally, and will always be a Grizzly..In fact he has a huge function for charity every year in Whitefish that draws a ton of NFL guys past and present to raise money for his work with disabled atheletes)

have a great weekend all

Why everyone so high on RGIII? He is not an NFL QB. First of all, comparing him to Cam Newton like most people do, he is a toothbpick. Newton used his size, although it will shorten his career, and after NFL defensive coor realize that they had LBs, and weren't scared off, he got stopped...cold. RGII has the arm and speed, but he will get creamed in the NFL, especially being a high pick and going to Cleveland or Washington with no OL. Newton will prove my point soon enough...he won't even be a starter in 3 years.
Athletes trying to be QB, like Newton, Tebow, and RGIII don't make it in the NFL. And Luck...I don't see it, especially when compared to Elway. Luck's release is almost as slow as Tebow's, and Tebow lucks like he's trying to throw underwater. He's athletic but the next Elway?! I say NoWay.

drink rum,.it good fo ya

Mark, odin,

I'm partial to Chivas Royal salute, there also is a Spanish Whiskey called Old Parr that I highly recommend but Jack Daniels works just FINE along with Jim Bean and Wild Turkey. I pound them all across the board and don't discriminate.

Darryl Dunphy | February 10, 2012 at 04:26 PM

Darryl whenever I get down to Yellowstone I'll be sure to stop in at Sammy's!

Dear Mr. Home and fellow Phin fans


First off I love the Dolphins !

Besides Chemical trails google or bing about the Georgia Guidestone or the Georgia's Stonehenge.

Enlightening

Soiled :)

P.S. Payton manning good, trading away draft picks bad

Ohio - Haven't tried the Rye yet. I'll take a look the next time I'm at the package store. I got turned on to the Bulliet a few years ago....it's my favorite in the winter and when camping (just something about drinking good bourbon in the wilderness).

During the summer months I drink a lot of Rum. Currently, Matusalem is my favorite. I also like Flora de Cana (21 years) but I can't get it here locally....only when I go to Florida or my trips to Belize and Honduras.

Here's the site

"www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com"


Soiled :)

Still these idiots with chemtrails? LMAO

CONTRAILS appear under ideal weather conditions. Please, do your research on climate & jet combustion, for verification. Yes, educational sites. Not conspiracy blogs or youtube. EDUCTAE YOURSELVES!

CONTRAILS, can actually extend up to a mile long under ideal conditions. That is why you go days, weeks & months and don't see them and coincidentally, when you do see them, it's around the same time for a few days or weeks at a time.

Again, when weather conditions are ideal, they happen!

Spraying the atmosphere with chemicals? What a bunch of gullable morons! LMAO Have you just now started looking up in your skies? It's a miracle we're still alive today considering these "chemtrails" have been sprayed your entire life!

Or factor in that they're happenening all over the world & the entire planet is in cover up mode & have thousands of facilities & agencies in disguise world wide.

I bet you looneys are all big on Bigfoot, Global Warming, JFK, Y2K, etc...Instead of researching conspiracies, focus on educating yourselves & becoming less of a gullable moron.

Mr. Soiled,

Thank you for the info. on Georgia guidestones I always enjoy the unique blend of witty humor your posts bring to the site. You Sir. are definitively without question the blogs box of chocolates! I myself as a younger man wasn't big on blodder but always enjoyed the Gumby stamped trips I took often in my many attempts to expand my mind and overall spiritual enlightenment.

The Georgia guidestones

A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones in eight different languages.

one language on each face of the four large upright stones.

Moving clockwise around the structure from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese, and Russian.

1.Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

2.Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.

3.Unite humanity with a living new language.

4.Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.

5.Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

6.Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

7.Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

8.Balance personal rights with social duties.

9.Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.

10.Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature

Wierd stuff...keeping the world population at about 500 million world wide.

Mr. Salguero's radio show is starting to grow on me.....like a scab over a wound...healing

Soiled :)

Dear Mr. fin4life

Thank you for your kind words.....I like the Box of chocolates refrence too :)

I wish Tom Hanks would do a sequil to Forrest Gump....R.I.P. Jenny Gump

Soiled :)

SoiledBottom | February 10, 2012 at 05:09 PM

Mr. Soiled,

The problem with a sequel to that particular flick is were do you go from were it left off?? I have often pondered the question but believe I have a good jumping off point! I would start the movie with a stumped Pres. Bush 43 sending for Forrest to head up the FEMA disaster after Hurricane Katrina proclaiming that the man responsible with digging the area out of financial hardship during the storm that ravaged the area in the 80's with the Buba Gump shrimp company would save the day, also becoming our Ambassador of good will during that administrations track record regarding foreign policies

Dear Mr. Fin4life

There are so many possibilities for a sequil.

Don't forget Lt Dans magic legs and Forrest and Lt Dan own all that Apple stock and with Steve Jobbs passing away I can see Forrest as the new CEO driving around Apple headquarters cutting the grass.

There's also Bubba Gump Hemp helping all those poor sick people getting the medical herbs they need.

Soiled :)

DD, love talking shop with a true bartender (well, step up, bar owner). But, yes, I make my sours the old-school way (egg whites). Is there any other way to make them? Oh yeah, the Jets way, I forgot, for girls.

Have a good night all, I'm out!

Dear Mr. Soiled

LMFAO! :)

How about none of the above...as in neither Manning or Flynn. Manning is too old, and Flynn is too unproven. This is the time to trade the farm for RGIII. He has the arm of Andrew Luck and the legs of Michael Vick. It really doesn't get any better than that.

Dear Soiled,

Things to ponder regarding the mindset of our beloved Dolphins and getting them back in a winning frame of mind:

1) After losses withhold meals from all Offensive and Defensive linemen with threats to close the teams buffet area at the Davie facility, NO play, NO chow!

2) A $100,000.00 FINE for Mr. Brandon Marshall for each drop of a pass deemed catchable. This given his 18 last year would have meant 1.8 Mil in FINES that would NOT have been a simple Tax right off. I believe this will propel him back to being the player we saw at the Pro Bowl, also a threat to hire his Wife an attorney to get back her privileges to move back into their home might be great motivation.

3) Kidnap the Wife/Mom/Girlfriend of the team QB sending him a video of said relative tide up with a promise to mail him a finger after each loss. This would be a great motivational tactic given anything remotely resembling an 0-16 Season would mean a significant other with only to small digits left on each foot.

4)Team therapy and meditation with incense also the LSD the Military has to make Soldiers more aggressive might be something to ponder with our Defense and especially LB's

Your thoughts??

Sincerely,
Mr. fin4life (lower caps on the fin till the climate changes)

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