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Free agents could bring right age, salary to Miami

Dolphins general manager Armando Salguero would not make Peyton Manning his No. 1 free agency priority in 2012. If this were 2002 and we were talking about 25-year-old Peyton Manning and not 35-year-old Peyton Manning, that would be different. But Dolphins GM Armando Salguero wants to build a team that can compete in the AFC East for the next decade rather than next year and then so he's not putting his money on any old, old, old players. He wants to use his elite free agent money on an elite free agent that isn't past his prime. Dolphins GM Armando Salguero spends his pennies (hundreds of millions of them) on someone who is more likely to rip a quarterback's arm off than a free agent whose throwing arm is already hanging by a thread.

GM Salguero wants Tom Brady to pay attention to his signing and think of the event as bad news.

He wants to strike fear into the heart of Mark Sanchez.

Dolphins GM Armando Salguero's chief priority in unrestricted free agency is .... Mario Williams.

Not Manning. Not Matt Flynn, although I have a serious sit-down with coach Joe Philbin and if Flynn is a guy the coach believes is a franchise QB in waiting, I also try to sign Flynn if I can.

But if you restrict me to one move, one addition, one big-time free agency signing?

Mario Williams, whose resume includes 48.5 sacks in the past 66 games, is my guy. That's the guy I team with Cameron Wake and turn the Miami pass-rush into a balanced nightmare.

But alas, Armando Salguero is but a know-nothing hack columnist. So I will sit and watch as the Dolphins weave their work starting March 13 when the free agency signing period begins. The Dolphins are expected to chase Peyton Manning, assuming he is an unrestricted free agent at the time.

So what other options other than Manning might the Dolphins pursue? It's hard to know now because last year the Dolphins went a little off the free agency reservation. They broke their own rules. They violated some time-honored Bill Parcells tenets.

To begin, they signed a starting running back in free agency, something I'd try not to do because I don't like paying running backs unless they are extremely special -- and Reggie Bush is good but not special.

They signed Jason Taylor, something I didn't think they would do because he was 36 years old at the time and previously the Dolphins had made the point of building with free agents that were about to hit their prime rather than free agents past their primes.

So the Dolphins did some things in free agency that were beyond the parameters of the approach they themselves had set down in previous years. That makes predicting what they do going forward more difficult.

If they sign Manning, it signals they're in win-now mode and will look at everyone and anyone as a possibility. The signings in that case won't be limited to younger players that can become cornerstones. The signings may take on an all-hands-on-deck approach, hitting young and older players alike -- in a rush to be good before Manning because really, really bad.

That is the likely approach the Dolphins will take if Manning is the guy. That's not how I'd do it. I want young guys. I want bargain guys, if I can get them. I want up-and-coming, not down-and-fading, I'm fine with less recognizeable names about to be bigtime over household names that no longer play up to their reputations.

The Dolphins need a quarterback. They must get a pass-rusher. They must get a right tackle or a guard, depending on their plans for John Jerry. Here are some possibilities:

Williams, DE/OLB Texans: He will not be franchised because that number is $22.9 million and the Texans have other issues to address, namely re-signing Arian Foster. So Williams will likely test the market and he will be expensive. What else do you expect of a player who has experience at both a 3-4 rush outside linebacker and a 4-3 DE and is elite?

Cliff Avril DE, Detroit Lions: He is not Mario Williams, but he fills the same need at a more reasonable price. He has 19 1/2 sacks the past two seasons, including 11 last season. He turns 26 in April, which suggests he's going to get better. Dominant? No. Very good? Yes.

Jared Gaither, OT, San Diego Chargers: I watched Gaither sign with the Chargers on a Thursday and start for them on a Sunday against the Oakland Raiders and Richard Seymour. And he got the better of Seymour. Sold! The Ravens gave up on this kid way too early. So did the Chiefs, who cut him ostensibly because he had a costly offside penalty in a game. He is not a break-the-bank guy. He is 25 years old.

Laurent Robinson, WR, Dallas: I know, I know, he's a Cowboy and we've done this before. But Robinson was actually productive with Dallas last year in scoring 11 TDs and he did this in replacing Miles Austin rather than in benefitting from coverage dedicated to Austin. This guy, a former third-round pick in Atlanta, seems ready to take the step toward being a full-time starter.

Pierre Garcon, WR, Indianapolis Colts: Well, if you cannot beat them, join them. I am in the minority arguing against signing Peyton Manning. But if you must sign the guy, give him a receiver he's familiar with ... And give him the young receiver he's familiar with, not 34-year-old Reggie Wayne. Garcon is big (6-foot and 210 pounds) and very fast. He's 25 years old. He is from West Palm Beach and his parent are from Haiti. So maybe he'll give the Dolphins some sort of discount?

Broderick Bunkley, DT, Denver Broncos: If Paul Soliai becomes too expensive, I think Bunkley would be a nice alternative and probably a cheaper one. He is coming off his best season, he's got playoff experience and he's actually younger than Soliai by several months.

Reggie Nelson, S, Cincinnati Bengals: The Dolphins just hired Kevin Coyle as their defensive coordinator after he served as the Bengals secondary coach fpr nearly a decade. That means he knows a little something about the Bengals secondary. And he somehow got Nelson, an early-round draft bust in Jacksonville, to play well in Cincinnati. Maybe Nelson might be the answer to getting some plays out of the Miami free safety spot.

Pat Sims DT, Cincinnati Bengals: Read the above and understand that Coyle saw Sims in practice every day. He has started 23 games in four seasons for the Bengals. He is mostly an anchor inside against the run. He is another, cheaper option to Paul Soliai. In fact, he's a cheaper option to both Soliai and Bunkley and he's only 26. Sims is from Fort Lauderdale so maybe he'd like to come home.

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Someone tell me, which QB of all the options would do better than Henne in 2012?

Peyton Nerve Dead Manning?
Matt Last Round Flynn?
A Rookie?

Don't see it.

I have no confidence in Ireland.

I have confidence in Ireland.

Bart-I can't tell if you're serious or kidding w/Henne. Henne has taken his last snap in a Dolphins uniform.

As for this article Mando, the Dolphins sure have won a lot of games this past 4 years going younger huh??

RG3 and Mario Williams

GREAT Call David. Usually agree with Mando but not here. Pass rusher is a need but not a #1 need for the dolphins. So what if we have Wake/Williams. Don't matter if you don't score points on the other end. Mando.....C'MON MAN!

Last thing we want to do is go into a win-now mode. I mean, we really haven't had anything to hang our hats on in over a decade, so why win this upcoming season???? That wouldn't make sense. Instead we should continue to get younger, even though we are a young team right now, with a lot of our starters entering their 3 & 4th years in the league. We DON'T want to bring in any vetern leasership in free agency that would allow our young guys to continue to develop.

What a terrible article Mando. You continue to amaze with your lack of football knowledge.

Your article, swimming upstream (against the signing of Manning), your not the only one who believes Manning is not in the best interest for Miami!!!!!! I would say most Dolphins fans DO NOT want Manning.

This is the problem, you are like most Dolphins fans. Completely clueless when it comes to football. This past season, all we hear about is how Miami didn't go out and get a QB to compete with Henne. Now the next off season, it's not important?

Are you just trying to stir up the fan base? To get a reaction? You should try being a journalist and reporter and actually report the news instead of your opinion. That may actually schock people enough to read this terrible articles. Never know.

Looks like another 5 and dime reporter trying to play pro ball. stick to high school games you might get some right or go back to writing cartoons because you are a joke! you actually get paid for your crap, heck you should pay them for letting you write this bs!!

Agree 100%, but I'd have to include Flynn there. If not Flynn, then we have to trade up for RG3. QB needs to e a priority. I'd like Mario Williams too, but just look at how important a true franchise QB is. Look at what happened to a Peyton Manning-less Colts. I don't want Manning, but id like someone who could become as valuable as Manning. A DE will never have that value. So my #1 goal this offseason is identify the QB (hopefully RG3 or Flynn and not Manning) and go after him aggressively.

Moore is better than Henne. But he is not the answer. Need to upgrade! I don't have the crystal ball needed to know what the best option at QB is going to be, but I do know what we have ain't it!

Decent read. I'd like to sign williams as well, wake and williams would indeed be horrifying.

Finally Armando!! An article with some teeth in it. Now we can have some good topics to discuss.

I really don't see many FA being signed before the draft.

There are a bunch of FA that could help Miami right now, but Jeffy needs to be patient.

Another good thing is that our new coaches know first hand info about some of these FA and college players which is huge!

Good morning guys,

First and foremost Miami must address the QB position. If Miami went and signed Mario Williams I would be estatic but this in turn to me would mean Miami must reach and I mean REACH for a guy like Tannehill so at least when Matt Moore plays like a good backup for a year, Tannehill could then step in by year 2.

Now there is a possibility Miami can throw big money at Mario Williams and if Peyton Manning takes the rumored incentive based contract then that would be one hell of an offseason. Of course the hope is Manning is at least 80 percent or better cause let's face it Manning at 80 percent is better then anything Miami has had at QB since Marino 97ish.

If Miami does go Peyton I would hope they still spend a high draft pick on a QB. Maybe a trade back up into round 1 for Tannehill or possibly a second on Foles. The rookie will be nothing but a 3rd string QB in year 1 and year 2 elevated to second string.

But if I had my CHOICE I would hope Philbin is sold on Flynn as a long term starter. It's a win-win situation. Flynn is 26 years old so he has room for improvement and also could be the Dolphins QB for 8-10 years. The other part of the win-win is that gives Philbin "his guy" and if he fails they fail together meaning that Philbin knows at 50 this is probably his only shot at a Head Coaching job in the NFL and I know he will have to be convinced that Flynn, the same QB he has watched every practice, scrimmage, OTA and game is "his guy".

First and foremost Miami must address the QB position.

Posted by: AndyNJ | February 14, 2012 at 07:34 AM

Do you really think so? Hmm. I wonder what DC thinks about that. I'm not sure if he's thought about it much.

Signing Matt Flynn to be the Dolphins starting QB will set this franchise back another 4 years. The dudes stats in GB's (elite) offense: 9Tds-6Ints and a fumble. 6 OF THOSE 9 Tds CAME AT THE END OF LAST SEASON! HE'S NO GOOD!

Lol I'd say stick to your day job Mando, but unfortunately and inexplicably this IS your day job. damn I miss Darlington.. can we please get a real writer who actually knows football please?!?

If Jeff Ireland wants to keep his job, he better start putting together a trade package to send to Jeff Fisher for that #2 pick, and take Robert Griffin III. I just hope this new group of coaches doesn't try to switch the defense to a 4-3. We had an incredible defense the last 2 seasons, we just had a terrible offense. If it isn't broke, don't try to fix it! And adding Mario Williams to be the strong side OLB in the 3-4, forgetaboutit! Mando is right, him and Cameron Wake would equal pressure on everyone. The QBs wives will be asking for prayers every week.

slinky,

Yeah it's an obvious statement but just wanted to throw a few things out there to create a discussion and pass some of this down time I have going on in the early morning.

I wonder what’s growing faster, Armando’s head or Armando’s gut. What a self-indulgent little turd.

paPhinsPhan,

I disagree. Incredible? No. Miami's D was good in spots and good in others. An "incredible D" is one that is consistent and can win games.

The Dolphins never make the right decisions. Is there anyone competent within 100 miles of the Dolphins office?

The day Ross sells the team is the day Dolfans can rejoice. Ross/Ireland have destroyed the franchise. Hard to be a Dolphin fan these days.

Sorry Armando but I think the idea of Mario Williams playing QB is a stretch...;-)

TGH,

Armando is 100 miles of the Dolphins office. They just aren’t smart enough to make him president of football operations & GM. I wonder why every NFL team isn’t knocking down his door.

Dolphin Disciple ,


He'd be a HUGE upgrade to Irescum.

I WOULD TAKE MARIO WILLIAMS AND WAKE.
GIANTS SHOWED WHAT A GREAT PASS RUSH CAN DO.

SIGN HENNE BACK LET HIM BATTLE MOORE.
UNLIKE MOST I THINK WE WIN MORE GAMES WITHOUT DROP TDs.

SIGN JERMICHAEL FINLEY AND MARIO MANNINGHAM.
WEAPONS IS THE KEY TO GAMES. ARMANDO POINTED OUT CHAD's TD TO INT RATIO. I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY BOUNCED OFF OF RECIEVERS HANDS?

LET SOLIAI GO. I LIKE HIM BUT HE WILL WANT TO MUCH MONEY.

RANDY STARKS CAN PLAY DT.

RESIGN LANGFORD. OR DON'T. HE'S A PLAYER WHO UNLIKE HENNE HAD HIS TIME TO GROW AND GET BETTER. HE DISAPPEARS FOR GAMES AT A TIME.

CAREY? I AGREE WITH ARMANDO.

I DON'T THINK QB IS AN ISSUE.

SORRY I LOOK AT THE FOOTBALL TEAM.

IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THE FOOTBALL YOU WOULD SEE THE QB MOST THE GAME.

YOU WON'T SEE LONG GETTING BEAT MORE THIS YEAR THAN EVERY YEAR COMBINED.

OR COLUMBO HAVING PROBLEMS ON ALMOST EVERY SNAP.

OR CLAY WHO HAS HAD HIS PROBLEMS BLOCKING.

ELI THREW 25 INTS LAST YEAR. 12 OF THEM HIT IT's TARGETS IN THE HANDS.

TWO I CAN THINK OF WITH CHAD OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. FASANO AGINST THE 49ERS AND GINN AGINST THE SAINTS.

HOW MANY MORE I DON'T KNOW.

BUT YOU NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE.

Signing Bush was a great move, he will continue to contribute for years and is worth every penny. JT was a smart move also...I am sure he taught Misi a thing or two and was a great example in the locker room. As for P. Manning ..bring him, he wants to catch up to his little brother in Super Bowl rings!!!!

Mario Williams...Exactly what I was saying a few weeks ago Armando...Some people told me "No, too expensive, no, get Mathis or Avril, etc etc..." These guys are GOOD, but not GREAT...Why settle for good when you can get GREAT? You start thinking like that and you fit right in with our front office's way of thinking of the last decade...Don't settle for good, aim for greatness...Adding Williams is the first step towards building a pass rush similar to what the Giants have....Couldn't agree with you more Armando...Make it happen Jeff Ireland!

Mario Williams has been tagged. Great waste of time GM Armando.

Can Mario Williams play QB?

Not true, he did not. Quit the bs...

Players can't be tagged until Feb 20.

MJ:

CAN MANNING PLAY QB ANYMORE?

CAN FLYNN?

THESE ARE ALL QUESTIONS WE ASK.

I like Mario Williams, but I think you leave out the cap space he will eat up and the response Cam Wake...who wants his own deal would feel about the signing of another pass rusher.

How can anyone argue the impact Peyton Manning would make on the Dolphins? A motivated and dedicated leader. SIGN HIM!

YOU GUYS NEED MORE PROOF?

YOUTUBE TED GINN AND SNOOP DOGG DROP IT LIKE IT's HOT.

FUNNY STUFF

I like that list of FA's for the Dolphins. I say spend the money that way and forget about wasting it on Manning.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Craig, from yesterday, responding to you.

Basically, I'm not sure how I twisted your words. You wanted more time for Henne/Sparano, both of those opinions were wrong (Henne will no longer be on the team most likely, and anyway now the consensus is Henne and Moore are similar players, meaning both competent placeholder QBs, and we really need to upgrade to a franchise QB, so doesn't make sense to keep both, and we'll probably end up keeping Moore).

On Sparano, he was fired ANYWAY. AND, now that we didn't do it last year, we have to pay him to Coach for the Jets.

Not sure how your qualifications change the fact that those were the wrong choices to make back then. Your reasoning on keeping Sparano was also wrong since Harbaugh did just fine coming in and getting his team ready to play in a shortened year, and they ended up 14-2.

On Henne, I think you're logic is fuzzy. I'm actually more understanding of Poizen's thinking than your own. Poizen believes Henne needed more time (like you), and would improve. And still today thinks he's a better option than Moore.

You believed Henne needed more than 32 games, but, now after 35 games you've seen enough to know he's not the guy. What happened in those 3 games? Well, Henne DID improve (like Poizen said). He was a better leader, more mobile QB, made better decisions and created more chunk yardage plays. How did he do anything in 35 games that made you believe he wasn't the guy that you couldn't determine from 32 games? I don't get it. Poizen didn't see anything to change his mind. Most watchers (even your boyfriend Ireland) believe Henne improved. So, what did you not see from him.

Again, probably the things many of us did not see the year before (horrible on 3rd downs, 4th quarter, red zone, too inefficient, etc.). Even had a 1st-hand accounting from greg z to say he saw all this in CAMP two years running, and the FO didn't bring in anyone to have a real competition at that position.

But, the whole point of that was to say, you were as unwavering about those opinions as you are now about Ireland. And you want people to accept Ireland's sh*t doesn't stink, when, at the VERY BEST, his record is spotty.

I'm saying, yes, objectively, Ireland did some good. But he's done some bad too. AND, we haven't improved (record-wise) in 3 years. SO, maybe he needs to move to different ponds and stop bringing in acorns churning the bottom of the roster, and focus his attention on playmakers and the top of the roster. That's what I thought of the CFL guy (who's slated to be the backup fullback). It's an ok hire, but do I think we're going to the SB with it? No. And that was my point. This is all well and good (on the acquisition), but the REAL heavy lifting is to come, and I hope Ireland will do better there than he has in the past.

But, once again, you don't want to accept any criticism of any aspect of the team (at least until you see the error of your ways play out and then after it does, change your position). Sorry, to me, that's a day late and a dollar short.

Good piece, but you know Ireland. Gotta have some flash, even if its only in the pan.

Totally agree with you on Mario Williams..on building for the long haul. On addressing the Pats and Jets in our own division.

This is the way we need to think. But they won't and they will try to win now. And we'll stay where we are....the Oakland Raiders of the East, a former powerhouse relegated to bad moves year after year after year.

If the Dolphins spend big in free agency then I see that as a sign they'll be making a move for RG3 in the draft.

Think about it...if they get Mario Williams (DL)or Jared Gaither, OT they fill an immediate need via FA.

...then go all in for RG3 in the draft by giving up picks in this draft and trade with St. Louis for the #2 pick.

...I'm not advocating we pull a Ditka and trade the entire 2012 draft. But give up our 1-4 round picks this year and our 1st next year.

No Manning - Mando Happy
No Flynn - Mando semi-happy
Yes to RG3 - Mando has major wood!

Mando, the fins' current QB was ranked 5th best in the league last year and went 6-3 shoulda been 7-2

also that's not many sacks. 0.6 sacks per game does not do anything to affect whether the team wins or loses

Andy, DC, #1 in Mont.

Am over with Soiled posting on the LIVE show Armando and Perkins and calling going off on talking FA, give it a try we can rapid fire argue like a live blog with Mando while calling in to argue points directly.

I already told you that Henne will win a starting QB job in this league and be very good, and you had better start paying attention. Dude's only 26 and his stats blow away E. Manning's first 2 years. Yes, he's had only TWO years people, with Sparano as coach and no receiver, tight ends, running game, or O line protection, at all. Stop saying 4 years. Last year was going to be his 3rd full year, but he got knocked out after a few games while being heroic when there was ZERO O line protection. The O line should feel humiliated to go out in public after last year's start to the season.

Bart is correct. Those who think Henne was the problem are stupid and ignorant.

Winner...I guess your calling our #1 WR stupid and ignorant.

WRONG ANSWER! Bill Parcells rules (or the spirit of his rules) NEVER included neglecting the pursuit of THEE number #1 Talented, best all round, DRAMA FREE franchise QB.
You took his words and twisted their meaning.
That........is why not only are you NOT a "GM" but as a disgraceful card-carrying member of the American media you can't even quote someone else without warping thier intent. But that's typical.

Williams is going to command a high salary for his services and he is not in the "elite" category that's going to warrant the price tag.
He hasn't played a full season in two years and his sack production really isn't that great for the money.
If you're going to spend this type of cash the guy needs to be getting double digit sack production annually on a consistent basis. Williams has just not done that with 14, 12, 9, 8.5 and 5 over the past 5 seasons respectively. His production is declining and you can look at the past season and say that he only played in five games but you don't know what a full season would bring. So, do you take a chance the guy will go down in the middle of the season or do you sign him and hope he can get you 14 sacks this year?
That's a tough one.
However, if I'm the GM and I'm looking at what it's going to cost me I'm saying no to Mario.

...not to mention the other players who spend 16 hours a day with Henne, sleep, eat, practice & play with him for 6 months ignorant.

These same players who are in the huddle for every play, understand his strengths & weaknesses his lack of leadership qualities and all the other intangibles that make up a quality, franchise QB....meanwhile you sit in your lounge chair and rub one out into a warm wash cloth to a photo of Henne.

Get a clue...HENNE IS NOT GOING TO BE OUR STARTER!

Mando,

How about getting a qb for top dollars and maybe getting a guy like Osi for cheaper than williams. I think the giants are gonna let him go. You can always draft a guy in the first round too. I'd rather the fins address qb in free agency and other needs in the draft. First round qbs are to hit or miss. If you miss you set the franchise back another 3 to 4 years.

Has anyone scanned the Cowboy's practice squad recently. I'm sure there are some 2012 Dolphin starters there...

I didn't say he was going to be our starter, idiot. He will start for another team because this team is clueless.

winner...I don't see it.
Only chance Henne has is to be a back up and hope the starter goes down.

Yes, our #1 WR absolutely is stupid and ignorant. He's childish, immature, a cancer in the locker room, like most of his type, and he has the mental maturity of a 7 year old.

yes, those players elected Henne captain last year. He was ready for a breakout year. NOBODY else on the team, except Henne, was ready to go when the season began last year, obviously. It was 1 (Henne) vs. 22 those first 4 games. Reggie Bush wasn't ready either. The O line, the defense, obviously. Nobody was ready to go last year when the season started except Henne. Please try to pay attention next time.

Winner/Bart,

Are you related to Henne? That is the only possible explanation you can have for defending the guy. The guy DOES NOT have what it takes to be a starter in the nfl. He is very inconsistent, has a big arm but his accuracy sucks on the deep ball, has no pocket awareness, locks onto primary receiver, fails in crunch time, has zero leadership skills and pretty much did the same thing in college so he really has no upside either. Wake up the guy is not starter material!!!

Yeah mando let's spend $40M for an extra 3 or 4 sacks next year. that'll really change the result of hte season

Why are you so concerned with how much Ross is going to spend? It is not your money fool. All you can ask for is for the fins to accumulate as much talent as possible.

We need to sign Gaither and hope Jerry is ready for RG. I can live with 1 spot on the Oline being questionable. I would love to get Mario Williams but he would likely be the only guy we can get because of how much he'd probably demand and we just got too many other holes to fix. So Gaither has to top the list with the possibility of adding Nelson or Flynn.

If we do sign Peyton... which I hope we don't, we ABSOLUTELY HAVE to sign Garcon! I think it will help with Peyton's transition to a new team and I think he'll have much more immediate success having someone he has chemistry built with.

I just read somewhere that Micheal Floyd is expected to have a great work out at the combine and may even jump Blackmond as the #1 WR and he will likely be there at the 8 or 9 slot. If that happens then I think we got to grab Flynn and Averil/Gaither and draft Blackmond in that spot.

And there is no question that Henne *and* Moore are as good or better than Flynn. It's the system. Henne has played his entire career with Spazano as his coach and having no TE or WR threat to speak of!!!!!!! He'd be the hot free agent right now, or a starter, if he'd been in Green Bay's system.

Also I tried to copy an article from SI but it didn't work. In that 6 TD game for Flynn, 5 of the TDs and/or long pass plays were 6 yard dumpoffs that the receiver took to the house. And he should have been intercepted at least twice.

it is mind boggling that everyone is in love with Flynn based on one meaningless game.

Henne has posted numerous 350 yard games and a 440 yard game, playing in Miami's offense. He's a pro QB ready to start his prime.

We also saw Moore be the 5th best QB in the league last year and go 6-3 shoulda been 7-2. It is absolutely a total guess, no way to know, whether Flynn or RGIII or even Andrew Luck will be as good as Henne or Moore.

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