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Free agents could bring right age, salary to Miami

Dolphins general manager Armando Salguero would not make Peyton Manning his No. 1 free agency priority in 2012. If this were 2002 and we were talking about 25-year-old Peyton Manning and not 35-year-old Peyton Manning, that would be different. But Dolphins GM Armando Salguero wants to build a team that can compete in the AFC East for the next decade rather than next year and then so he's not putting his money on any old, old, old players. He wants to use his elite free agent money on an elite free agent that isn't past his prime. Dolphins GM Armando Salguero spends his pennies (hundreds of millions of them) on someone who is more likely to rip a quarterback's arm off than a free agent whose throwing arm is already hanging by a thread.

GM Salguero wants Tom Brady to pay attention to his signing and think of the event as bad news.

He wants to strike fear into the heart of Mark Sanchez.

Dolphins GM Armando Salguero's chief priority in unrestricted free agency is .... Mario Williams.

Not Manning. Not Matt Flynn, although I have a serious sit-down with coach Joe Philbin and if Flynn is a guy the coach believes is a franchise QB in waiting, I also try to sign Flynn if I can.

But if you restrict me to one move, one addition, one big-time free agency signing?

Mario Williams, whose resume includes 48.5 sacks in the past 66 games, is my guy. That's the guy I team with Cameron Wake and turn the Miami pass-rush into a balanced nightmare.

But alas, Armando Salguero is but a know-nothing hack columnist. So I will sit and watch as the Dolphins weave their work starting March 13 when the free agency signing period begins. The Dolphins are expected to chase Peyton Manning, assuming he is an unrestricted free agent at the time.

So what other options other than Manning might the Dolphins pursue? It's hard to know now because last year the Dolphins went a little off the free agency reservation. They broke their own rules. They violated some time-honored Bill Parcells tenets.

To begin, they signed a starting running back in free agency, something I'd try not to do because I don't like paying running backs unless they are extremely special -- and Reggie Bush is good but not special.

They signed Jason Taylor, something I didn't think they would do because he was 36 years old at the time and previously the Dolphins had made the point of building with free agents that were about to hit their prime rather than free agents past their primes.

So the Dolphins did some things in free agency that were beyond the parameters of the approach they themselves had set down in previous years. That makes predicting what they do going forward more difficult.

If they sign Manning, it signals they're in win-now mode and will look at everyone and anyone as a possibility. The signings in that case won't be limited to younger players that can become cornerstones. The signings may take on an all-hands-on-deck approach, hitting young and older players alike -- in a rush to be good before Manning because really, really bad.

That is the likely approach the Dolphins will take if Manning is the guy. That's not how I'd do it. I want young guys. I want bargain guys, if I can get them. I want up-and-coming, not down-and-fading, I'm fine with less recognizeable names about to be bigtime over household names that no longer play up to their reputations.

The Dolphins need a quarterback. They must get a pass-rusher. They must get a right tackle or a guard, depending on their plans for John Jerry. Here are some possibilities:

Williams, DE/OLB Texans: He will not be franchised because that number is $22.9 million and the Texans have other issues to address, namely re-signing Arian Foster. So Williams will likely test the market and he will be expensive. What else do you expect of a player who has experience at both a 3-4 rush outside linebacker and a 4-3 DE and is elite?

Cliff Avril DE, Detroit Lions: He is not Mario Williams, but he fills the same need at a more reasonable price. He has 19 1/2 sacks the past two seasons, including 11 last season. He turns 26 in April, which suggests he's going to get better. Dominant? No. Very good? Yes.

Jared Gaither, OT, San Diego Chargers: I watched Gaither sign with the Chargers on a Thursday and start for them on a Sunday against the Oakland Raiders and Richard Seymour. And he got the better of Seymour. Sold! The Ravens gave up on this kid way too early. So did the Chiefs, who cut him ostensibly because he had a costly offside penalty in a game. He is not a break-the-bank guy. He is 25 years old.

Laurent Robinson, WR, Dallas: I know, I know, he's a Cowboy and we've done this before. But Robinson was actually productive with Dallas last year in scoring 11 TDs and he did this in replacing Miles Austin rather than in benefitting from coverage dedicated to Austin. This guy, a former third-round pick in Atlanta, seems ready to take the step toward being a full-time starter.

Pierre Garcon, WR, Indianapolis Colts: Well, if you cannot beat them, join them. I am in the minority arguing against signing Peyton Manning. But if you must sign the guy, give him a receiver he's familiar with ... And give him the young receiver he's familiar with, not 34-year-old Reggie Wayne. Garcon is big (6-foot and 210 pounds) and very fast. He's 25 years old. He is from West Palm Beach and his parent are from Haiti. So maybe he'll give the Dolphins some sort of discount?

Broderick Bunkley, DT, Denver Broncos: If Paul Soliai becomes too expensive, I think Bunkley would be a nice alternative and probably a cheaper one. He is coming off his best season, he's got playoff experience and he's actually younger than Soliai by several months.

Reggie Nelson, S, Cincinnati Bengals: The Dolphins just hired Kevin Coyle as their defensive coordinator after he served as the Bengals secondary coach fpr nearly a decade. That means he knows a little something about the Bengals secondary. And he somehow got Nelson, an early-round draft bust in Jacksonville, to play well in Cincinnati. Maybe Nelson might be the answer to getting some plays out of the Miami free safety spot.

Pat Sims DT, Cincinnati Bengals: Read the above and understand that Coyle saw Sims in practice every day. He has started 23 games in four seasons for the Bengals. He is mostly an anchor inside against the run. He is another, cheaper option to Paul Soliai. In fact, he's a cheaper option to both Soliai and Bunkley and he's only 26. Sims is from Fort Lauderdale so maybe he'd like to come home.

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Dolphins gm armando sounds like the only worse thing in the world than dolphins gm Jeff Ireland. What an idiot, and. Wry hard to read, more and more, as of late.
The dolphins have not had a star qb, so they have not had a chance at the superbowl, and almost never the playoffs, since Dan the man. That is a fact even his feeble mind can't deny.
And even getting Peyton for one year let alone two or three or five changes ALL OF THAT. We have a chance at a superbowl. Or two. Immediately. The only thing stopping this is people like Armando, and frankly, I think it's time to see someone else take over this job. For this reader, it's no longer fire Ireland, it's fire Ireland/Armando. The dolphins deserve better.

The Heisman trophy didn't go to Luck not because he wasn't deserving but because it's a popularity contest.By the way andre ware won that trophy.Winning the Heisman isn't a litmus test to certain NFL success.Many players have won that award and been busts.Andruw Luck was cheated out of it. Luck didn't run to the NFL after one year of collegiate success.

Armando,I found out about your blog this morning while listening to your show. I'm glad I did. The Dolphins need to draft a QB, sign a free agent QB and they need to continue to do so until they get it right. We need to outscore Brady first and sack him second.

Craig,

I am in agreement with you on Pennington. He earned his money big time that year. And when he went back and beat the Jets when dumped him for Favre, that was just complete sweetness.

Others feel he had an awesome year too.....NFL Network voted it as one of the top 10 comeback performance years from a player of all time. I have nothing but respect for how hard Penny played for us that year, even if it was an "easy" schedule. And the wildcat just made it HARDER on him!!!! How would you like to get into a good rythem as a QB and then get taken out right in the middle of the series for a gimmick play!! He played well despite all these interruptions and distractions.

Welcome Frank of the Tower.

Ohio,

Very well said at 1:19pm.

Andrew Luck: Pass: 3,517 Yds CMP:71.3% 37 Pass TD 10 INT 2 Rush TD this season.

RG3: Pass: 4,293 Yds CMP: 72.4% 37 Pass TD 6 INT 9 Rush TD this season.

He was equal or better in every category! And against better competition!!! Andrew Luck did not deserve it.

You don't know what you're getting into, Frank.

Manning would be a key step in building for the future(not to mention making us an instant playoff team).

Luck and RGIII won't make it to Miami in no way, shape or form. It ain't happening. Even if a price tag was offered up, Ross and Ireland would NEVER pay it.

Tannehill? Christ, Cousins fro MSU is better than him!

Manning will allow us 2-3 years to address our QB of the future. Probably win a lot of games to boot.

Flynn's the only wildcard. This one will rest in Philbins hands and then whether Ross and Ireland will pay up.

Thinking about it from Ross and Ireland's perspective is a little different. Do we pay 30 to 40 Million for a wildcard? Do we pay a lot less for a Super Bowl winning future Hall Of Famer?

I'd say Manning is the safe bet. He buys us a little time and makes us INSTANTLY revelent!

PS: Fire Ireland, Don't hire Salguero!

There's lot of dirty People here, Frank, they talk about Sex, and most, about QB's.

odin but then were in 2008 revisited and no closer to a STABLE future. Manning is a bandaid to a gushing wound, he does good for maybe one year but even that isnt a guarentee!

Wouldn't Calais Campbell be almost as expensive as Williams and more than Manning?

odinseye | February 14, 2012 at 12:51 PM

In the case of M.Williams we all saw what the Franchise tag will cost and I heard on NFL Net. he's looking for over 10 Million a Yr. and by the way don't be surprised if he's tagged even at that number.

I figure Campbell will cost an average of 6 Mil. a Season. Is a Miami native and wants out of one of the NFL's small fanbase teams. You replace Langford here and see what you squeeze out of Merling who's CAP # is under 1 Mil.

Manning will have to take an incentive heavy deal so make it a 3 to 4 Yr. contract and spread the cash out along with a signing bonus there are ways to get creative here. If that were the route but his workouts at Duke Univ. this week showed that he couldn't throw across his body or an out still and you need to take that into consideration.

I'm on the trade the 2012 farm for RG111 just in a rookie CAPPED league have my reservations about trading players who now by League rule have to play out their CAP friendly rook deals and while some are asking what is the harm I tell you it could be BIG. If he doesn't pan out your stuck for a few fielding the Redskins of the last 10 Yrs. always maxed at the CAP Ceiling with few picks cause they trade them, just a thought on the Dan Snyder, Al Davis and Jerry Jones way of doing it in the FA ERA with zero Titles and few winning Seasons in between.

Eric Crotch won the Hesiman, so this tells you that winning the Hesiman doesnt translate to a pro bowl caliber player in the NFL.

Jimbo,

Nothings guaranteed.

I think we need the band aid given our current circumstances.

1. Luck and RGIII just ain't going to happen.

2. Flynn comes without any guarantees and an even bigger price tage.

These two points really limit our options. And please, for the love of God, don't mention Tannehill. He lost every QB competition in college, started only 7 games at QB and managed to help get his Head Coach fired.

Our worst case scenario, let the young up and coming Matt Moore(who went 6-3)be our safety net. Then sign the least likely risk, with the highest chance of reward in Peyton Manning.

Band Aids are the first step in the healing process.

Do none of you remember that you've all posted the same thing an infinite amount of times now?

The last time anyone said anything new here I fell off my dinosaur.

Lets not get on the Redskins FAIL plan which includes throwing TONS of money at over hyped over paid over the hill free agents for a surprising 5-11 season...

Fun facts cluelessly said "You mean like the fact Henne ended his season on the NFL's longest losing streak? Henne was on the team 4 years, Moore in a few weeks posted a better record than Henne ever did."

Um. Henne threw for 400+ yards in week 1. Henne was the games top passer in week 3. Moore took over in week 4 and went on to lose the first 4 games single-handedly. It took him 5 games to match Henne's productivity in 3.

You can point to win-loss records but you lose here as well. QB's don't win a game by themselves. Only a half-wit looks at win-loss records and thinks he is determining the QB's ability.

Rodgers was on the bench for 4 years before he ever started. Henne was on the team for four years but has only played 2 seasons. You lose again.

"Dolphins GM Armando Salguero's chief priority in unrestricted free agency is .... Mario Williams."

It's a pretty safe bet he'll be franchised. I would think as GM of the Dolphins you'd know that...unless you're willing to give up a couple of picks on top of the huge contract he'll get which would be a colossal mistake.

Troy Smith did too and he didnt do much but your telling me in the year of Andrew Luck for another quarterback to out play him and beat him in the running for that award that its outrageous to think hes not of the same talent level as Luck? Hell Luck has as great a chance to fail as RG3 does but Luck is worth the risk?

If the worst case scenario happens I still pass on Manning and wait til next year hopefully with a higher draft pick and grab a QB. Stop fantasizing that these retreads will save the franchise, its not going to happen we need a long term solution til then the Dolphins are going no where.

...This was on ESPN so take it or leave it. I think it is just some mumbo jumbo offseason talk..Clayton mentioned perhaps a trade with Chicago that would include Brandon Marshall..I think Marshall would command a second round pick, perhaps a late round add on as well. I think this would be a horrible trade as we have no reliable option at reciever at this point. Sure, free agency will probably start to shape the process. But right now, as we sit today..This would be a bad idea.

He was equal or better in every category! And against better competition!!! Andrew Luck did not deserve it.

Jimbo Febuary 14, 2012 at 01:24 PM


AGREED!!!

I saw the BIG 4 play plenty:

Landry Jones: extremely overrated to me the Joey Harrington hype machine all over

Matt Barkley: Looked good on a nearly Fr. O at the skill spots and gave Luck all he could handle.

Andrew Luck: Awesome but was up and down a little late especially Vs. Oregon whom Barkley took apart in putting on a clinic while playing in those WAC/PAC Conferences were scores resemble a pinball game.

RG111: Really impressed put up the better #'s in the BIG-12 Vs. the Texas and Oklahoma's of the World. I fully expected him to win the night of the Heisman.

Just read it'll cost the Texans something in the neighborhood of 23 mil to franchise Williams. Guess that's NOT happening.

Mando for GM 2012!! lol

Darryl i hope that inst true

...This was on ESPN so take it or leave it. I think it is just some mumbo jumbo offseason talk..Clayton mentioned perhaps a trade with Chicago that would include Brandon Marshall..I think Marshall would command a second round pick, perhaps a late round add on as well. I think this would be a horrible trade as we have no reliable option at reciever at this point. Sure, free agency will probably start to shape the process. But right now, as we sit today..This would be a bad idea.

Darryl Dunphy | February 14, 2012 at 01:52 PM

I saw that on NFL Live and was surprised Wingo, Shlereth and Bruschi didn't LOL!

Henne was on the team for four years but has only played 2 seasons. You lose again.

Posted by: New Coach Wanted | February 14, 2012 at 01:44 PM


Making excuses doesn't change the facts. The team responded to Moore far better than Henne. Marshall hates Henne.

By the way, don't alter the facts, Henne was on the team FOUR seasons. FOUR. Was he playing video games before he became a starter or was he working on learning his craft? Either answer means he failed.

More facts on Henne:

Worst in league in the redzone
Worst in league on 3rd down conversions
Worst in league in the 4th quarter.

You are infatuated with yards that add up to nothing in the end.

Of the FAs Armando mentioned, I'm down with Williams if it doesn't cost us our entire team budget. Gaither, Bunkley are good bets too. Loving Gaither as the Columbo replacement, and skip the drafting of another OT.
Bunkley, like Armando says, if Solai leaves. Bunkley may be better anyway.

Don't you love these fans infatuated with Hennes 400 yards games, even though he still lost those games? Then its everyone elses fault but Henne's.

Moore won with the very same team and very same coaches with 1/10 of Hennes experience on the team.

Dear Mr. Jimbo,

"Stop fantasizing that these retreads will save the franchise"

I often fantasize about the Girl that works up at the local Gas and Go.

I fantasize about the Waitress at my Favorite Waterin Hole.

Once in awhile I fantasize about playing my Stratocaster in my underwear on the stage at Carnegie Hall.

Needless to say, I NEVER fantasize about retreads at all.

Odin :)

(I hope Soiled doesn't try and sue me for stealing his Stick)

IF ARMANDO WAS THE GM ,WE WOULD BE LIVING BELOS THE BASEMENT LEVL .........YOU FORGOT THAT ARMANDO HAVE ENDORSED ALL THE FINS MOVES FOR THE LAST 4 YEARS AND SUPPORTING OUR PIZZA COACH AND HAVING A LOVE TIES WITH WITH OUR GM MANAGER .........

ARMANDO ,YOU SHOULD STICK WITH YOUR RADIO SHOW WHERE TELENT NEED NO APPLY ........

BELOW

Thank you fin4 I'm glad I'm not the only one that was really impressed by what RG3 did this year. And on top of his talent he's a really smart kid he's made the dean's list multiple times and finished his degree in about 3 years. He's got a good head on his shoulder's and i think he going to do very well at the next level. If the Dolphins could some how package a deal to get him I say do it. I think the risk is worth the reward.

BTW, only way Marshall leaves is if he's part of the package for Griffin. Otherwise, pointless.
The man is a special talent, regardless of how consistent he's been. A matching potential talent would be listed as a early first rounder. You don't find WRs his size/speed in the second round, unless they are injured or pot-heads. So Marshall better not be traded unless he's the only way we get Griffin or Luck. Otherwise, it's stupid. Even then, it's unwise.

Posted by: Fun Facts | February 14, 2012 at 02:03 PM

Most fans give all the credit to the QB for wins and blame the TEAM for losses.

You seem to be of the complete opposite breed.

At least when it comes to Henne anyways.

Twisting Facts is Fun Indeed :)

Odin then get off the Peyton to Dolphins bandwagon because its just going to be more of the same garbage we've been watching for over a decade now.

Worst in league in the redzone
Worst in league on 3rd down conversions
Worst in league in the 4th quarter.

You are infatuated with yards that add up to nothing in the end.

Fun Facts | February 14, 2012 at 01:59 PM

While I say GOOD RIDDANCE to Henne I have some FUN FACTS as well.

In those 3 Yrs. he learned the Dan Henning way of doing things (The QB doesn't play to win, he plays not to loose)

The playcalling was laughed at around the League with opposing D players based on our formations calling out the plays at the line.

QB Coach David Lee (Putz) never working on the flaws in his mechanics like practicing fades in the redzone. They were to busy with they're 2 second bull horn.

Henne looked better under Daboll but the entire team was sucking wind usually by the 2nd Qrt. They came around after R.Bush called them out in public was blasted for it but ironically it hit a nerve because they played different after that.

Not a Henne backer but like the FUN facts as well.

Mr.Ross, you want to sell tickets?? You want the Dolphins to be the talk of the town once again?? Sign Mario Williams and trade up to no 2 and draft RG3...I'd rather have a long term answer, especially for a QB...It's not the quantity of moves you make, it's the quality. Williams would really make our pass rush a force, RG3 would be our franchise QB...Use the rest of our picks and our cap money that's left on o-line, wr and the secondary...A speedy TE would also make sense...And no, you don't trade Marshall when your other WRs are named Bess and Hartline...

I can see ST Louis being trading partners for B Marsh. They need a #1 WR.

Thank you fin4 I'm glad I'm not the only one that was really impressed by what RG3 did this year. And on top of his talent he's a really smart kid he's made the dean's list multiple times and finished his degree in about 3 years. He's got a good head on his shoulder's and i think he going to do very well at the next level. If the Dolphins could some how package a deal to get him I say do it. I think the risk is worth the reward.

Jimbo | February 14, 2012 at 02:06 PM

The Anti-Vick with compatible athletic talent!

THANKS JIMBO.............I DIDN'T KNOW ODIN WAS ON THE MANNING WAGON....................


MANNING WILL NOT PLAY AGAIN,,,,,,,,,, HIS NECK IS HIS LIFE........HE'S WORTH ABOUT 180 MILLION TODAY ,NO NEED FOR FOOTBALL ......

BRADY WILL BE MOVING TO BRAZIL WHERE A NEW FOOTBALL LEAGUE WILL BE BORNED SOON .......

BRAD IS WORTH 210 MILLION POOR PEOPLE ,,,,,,,,,

fin4life, I read your post from this morning but had to go, that's why I never answered you. Had to bring the kids to school and had a bunch of stuff to do. Just got back. Would of been fun though...

BRADY

Trade next year's first, 2013's first and Jake Long for the no 2 pick and draft RG3!!! C'mon man!!!

Fun Facts, how do you explain Moore's record in Carolina?

BRADY...210 MILLION
MANNING....... 180 MILLION

CARSON PALMER......... 82 MILLION

KOLB............................ 22 MILLION

HENNE.......................... 123 DOLLARS,SOON TO SIGN A HUGE CONTRACT WORTH 39 MILLION .........

ALoco, who in their right mind is going to give millions to Henne???

yea montreal trade our best player at one of the most important positions on offense along with 2 first round picks to move up for RG3? god where can i get what your smoking? I'm fine with the 2 first round picks but we need Jake to keep RG3 clean back there

Fun Facts

I've never seen a pro QB worse then RoboHenne. Especially in the red zone and the 4th quarter....when it matters. Maybe someone will sign him to their practice squad so he has more time to "develop".

Blah Blah blah As long as Ireland is the GM the off season is going to go just like it has.

Checking several mock drafts, Luck, Blackmon, RG3, T. Richardson, Claiborne, Kalil are gone before we pick.

Why does everyone insist on including Jake Long for a trade up? Long was 1st overall draft pick, and has played like it. Why is giving him up PLUS draft picks getting egual value? Trading a #1 draft pick that has lived up to expectations, and is still in peak years .. for a high draft pick which no one knows if he'll live up to expectations .. PLUS more picks?
Sorry, but how is this a good deal?
I'm for trading up, but lets not act like drunken hoes with daddy's money.

For my money in FA moves which could be done for young players at reasonable prices I make the following moves.

T.E. Jermicheal Finley

RT Demetrius Bell/ Omar Gaither (If attitude can be adjusted he is a monster)

RB Micheal Bush or Mike Tolbert

DE Calais Campbell

SS Deshon Goldson (Was a ballhawk for S.F. with 6 picks and hits like a ton of bricks KNOCKING OUT teammates and opponents alike, my fav. player in a market that has L.Landry and M.Griffin)I would sign him 1st along with Finley and cut the 5.6 for Y.Bell from the books day 1 in FA

THE RED SKINS.CHARGERS,MIN ALL THESE TEAMS ARE IN DIRE NEED OF A GREAT QB ,AND HENNE FITS THE BILL ........

Subject to change oscar still gotta see what happens at the combine and free agency

MONTREAL.................... DO YOU HAVE A JOB ? OR YOU BELONG TO THE POOR FANS BRIGADE ?

Jimbo, not smoking anything. If you still don't realize that in order to become a champion, you need a QB, well, you're the one who is smoking some good stuff... John Jerry replaced Jake Long last year and did a very good job doing so. It is my belief (just an opinion of course) that Jerry is a better tackle than he is a guard. He's an athletic type of lineman, he's more comfortable in space than he is playing inside. Jake Long is beaten up, he's often injured and it is my belief you should trade him while he still has value. This trade would be a good trade for both teams. The Rams need a lot of picks, they need a LT to protect Bradford and they would still have the no 8 or 9 overall draft pick, which is not too bad. Think QB brother!!! Can you tell me who the NY Giants LT is??? They still made it to the SB right? What about the Pats? Matt Light??? No offense, but he's no Jake Long. Who's the Packers LT?? Or the Saints??? Get what I'm sayin???

Jake Long is damaged goods. 5 nagging injuries. Doubt he could pass a trade physical or complete a season. Not that he helped us anyway.

FIN4LIFE........HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU HAVE TO SIGN PLAYERS ?

There are many good OT's and Pass rushers in this Draft and probably we'll wind up with one of them, Jimbo. Of course, pending Combine.

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