« Agent: Paul Soliai return not likely | Main | Peyton Manning had unreported procedure and may need another surgery »

Manning might not be available after all ... maybe

Throughout the ever expanding Peyton Manning saga, there's been one bothersome thought that has continued to hound my mind ... and my mind hasn't appreciated the overtime work.

ESPN reported a couple of weeks ago that Manning will be open to an incentive-laden contract in which he would be paid little or no guaranteed money up front with his new team and that he would have to earn every cent he makes strictly through performance.

That got me wondering if Manning would do that for his expected new team why wouldn't he do it for his old team -- you know, the Colts, the team for which he's played 14 seasons and is the face and heart and soul of the franchise?

Well, that's exactly what Manning might have the opportunity to do if you can believe Indianapolis owner Jim Irsay. Irsay spoke with the Indianapolis Star on Tuesday and made the point he wants Manning to return to the Colts as long as Manning restructures his contract.

"We can make it work if he wants to be here," Irsay told the Star. "We'd be excited to have him back and finish his career with us.

"I want him to be able to make the choice. We would love to have him back if he can get healthy and we can look at doing a contract that reflects the uncertainty of the ... healing process with the rengeneration of the nerve."

Suddenly, every team that fancies Manning has to feel a bit disappointed that the almost-certain divorce that seemed destined to happen by March 8th might not actually happen. Manning, as you probably have heard ad nauseum, is due a $28 million bonus on March 8 and if he's not paid that amount, he becomes a free agent.

The Colts have no intention of paying that bonus. But now they have put the ball in Manning's court, basically asking the quarterback to restructure his deal.

The proverbial ball is now in Manning's court. He can still refuse to restructure his contract and get out of Indy. But that would make him a villian in his own town. He can accept the restructure, but then he'll find himself on a team that is diminished by age and is no longer considered a Super Bowl contender -- even with Manning.

So that certain chase of Peyton Manning that everyone in Miami, Washington, and other NFL outposts that value the veteran may not happen. Assuming the worst for the Dolphins -- because that's what I've learned to do after the past decade of team history -- where does it leave them if their priority QB addition is no longer available?

It is funny to me that suddenly the talk of Manning's uncertain health situation has taken a back seat to where Manning is actually headed. Manning has undergone three neck surgeries in the past 20 months. He is waiting for the latest surgery to help nerves connecting to his triceps, which has suffered atrophy and was often numb as a result of the deadened nerves that the surgery was supposed to regenerate.

In rehabilitating from his cervical surgery, Manning has talked often to former FSU quarterback Chris Weinke who had a similar surgery in 1998 and sat out the end of the season before returning in 1999 to lead the Seminoles to the national title.

Weinke will be on Armando and Perk this morning at 8:30ish. You can watch the show here during the interview or anytime between 6-10 a.m.

 

TrackBack

TrackBack URL for this entry:
http://www.typepad.com/services/trackback/6a00d83451b26169e201676261770c970b

Listed below are links to weblogs that reference Manning might not be available after all ... maybe:

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.


Yea Mike, the team has come out and said they were not ready to play until week 7. not in condition for game play. Terrible excuse, but Dansby and a few others let that leak.

Posted by: Poizen | February 15, 2012 at 01:52 PM

The "team" didnt say anything. That was one disgruntled player.

I said most realistic fit. Read, bro!

Posted by: AndyNJ | February 15, 2012 at 12:57 PM


Realistic fit for what exactly? Is there any point in taking a QB you don't believe has true franchise potential? I don't care how well he knows Philbin, realistic fit is meaningless if he he is not seen as a franchise QB. Besides, we still don't know if Philbin thinks he is an option, so realistic fit is based on pure imagination and nothing more.

The blog is becoming a re-tread of the smae garbage.

Not that this changes much regarding Flynn, but the week 17 game against the Lions was no meaningless game. The Lions could have locked up the #5 seed instead of being #6 and would have avoided going to New Orleans for their 1st round game.

Obviously the Lions were all in....Stafford threw for over 500 yards and five td's. Calvin Johnson had over 200 yards receiving. The game pretty much went down to the wire. It was no "exhibition" type game, as some have posted.

It was reported that the window to restructure player contracts closed at the end of the regular season. If that's true the Colts could cut him and try to resign him which isn't hard to imagine.

Signal, it was one doggone game, remember Henne had that 400 yard game agianst pats. Well that was a fluke

Lastly, I didn't know we were having a Williams argument. So what you're saying is you wish they'd resigned Williams and it was wrong to draft Thomas? I'm saying the guy you're bashing for being a 'whiff' outrushed Williams in 11 games, while Williams played 16. I'm not getting your point.

Posted by: Craig M

UHM seriously? What I'm saying, with almost 100% certainty is, I think you see what you want to see in other peoples posts & ignore what they're actually saying. I don't think your interested in reading, just typing.

3rd time now, there were more than a few players available who out produced Thomas & would not have cost 3 draft choices. This is poor player evaluation & use of draft choices.

Williams, Murray, Mcgahee, Ingram etc etc etc

Also, what you've also made clear is what you have no idea what "more productive PER CARRY mans". Regarding Williams, thats what I said. Same thing actually applies with Ingram.

Not total yardage. You're talking about that, not me. Players can't control the amount of opportunities they get so if we want to be FAIR, we can only analyze how good players are when they get it.

Compared to others, Thomas was least productive & that productivity cost 3 draft picks. It's a fact.

It's simple math.

Williams: 108 - 444 = 4.11 ypc 2 rush TD's
Ingram: 122 - 474 = 3.9 ypc 5 rush TD's
Murray: 164 - 897 = 5.5 ypc 2 rush TD's
McGahee: 249 - 1199 = 4.8 ypc 4 rush TD's
Thomas: 165 - 581 = 3.5 ypc 0 rush td's

4th time the charm I hope? If not, it's time to move along.

Okay!

Let's go for 4 more pages of trying to convince everybody that you are right and everyone else is wrong.

Mike, That was not a shot at you, If I get time I will look it up. It may have been a prev Mando blog. Dansby was the only one I can remember off the top of my head. But there were a few sources referenced.

When considering which Players Miami will choose in the Draft(or in FA), you have to consider these 2 factors. First: our Offence is in worse shape than our Defence, so more Offensive Players will be acquired. Second: those Players drafted or FA's will resemble those that Philbin worked with in GB as OC.

Second: those Players drafted or FA's will resemble those that Philbin worked with in GB as OC.

Posted by: oscar canosa | February 15, 2012 at 02:20 PM


Philbin did not draft in GB, nor will he draft here, so I would not assume this.

Clue, I wasn't saying the one game defines what Flynn will or will not be as a qb in the NFL. Just saying it should be viewed in the correct context. At the time, it was an important game for Detroit to win.

Poizen, Re: your comments as to the team not ready to play , All you have to do is look at the record regaurding them not ready, 0 And 7, You can have a I.Q of 59 to see they were'nt ready.LOL, I Think Mikey looking to stir the pot.Dansby a disgrunted player, I suppose 98 $ of the phins were "Disgruntled" By there 0 and 7 start.

4th time the charm I hope? If not, it's time to move along.
Posted by: Captain Obvious | February 15, 2012 at 02:14 PM

dont count on it fella! you aint da first cowboy 1 to tango with this knuckle duster. he just gonna pretend like you didnt say nothin, call ya dumb cause he cant grasp a lick of it.

you cant talk sense to dem blow hards!

Sorry, 98%.

I have to take issue with the idea that Peyton would automatically be a villain in Indy if he chooses to leave. There is too much uncertainty about what the Colts intentions are to definitively say that.

What if the Colts want to keep Manning on with a much cheaper deal, but only as a back up and mentor to Andrew Luck? Would anyone really blame Manning if he decided he'd rather leave and continue to start somewhere else? I certainly wouldn't.

Philbin is from Green Bay.
Flynn is the backup QB at Green Bay.

Therefore, because the sports sites say Flynn is the hot FA QB, that means automatically he must be a franchise QB and our FO will acquire him.

That is the line of thought many of you have.

Until this FO makes a move for Flynn, nobody can know what they really think of him.

OK. From there we can more or less assume that: 1- Matt Flynn will be our QB next Season. 2- Clay, Messum, Reggie, fit Philbin's scheme. D. Thomas, Hilliard do not. 3- Marshall fits, Bess and Hartline do not. 4- Fasano does not fit.

Gotta feeling Payton will be going to Arizona., Thats where a lot of people go to retire., JMHO.

Has Arizona officially taken over as the "retirment" state over FL? I know they were getting close.

FP4FGs you took a little more direct route. I was trying to be a little more suttle, sugar coating it, if you will. :)

And the kicker here is that's where Kurt Warner went to "Retire" with a 8 and 8 team and brought him to another Super Bowl with the Cards.Just saying.

Free Thinker, not all true. It was highly publicized when Rodgers went to Philbin's son's funeral. He talked about how Philbin was like a father to him, how hurt and concerned he was for Philbin. You didn't hear anything about Flynn. Philbin also commented on Rodgers (but not Flynn).

I deduced that the Philbin/Rodgers relationship was stronger than the Philbin/Flynn relationship. So, if Flynn's ok with being the "second favorite" then everything should be ok.

Has Arizona officially taken over as the "retirment" state over FL? I know they were getting close.
Posted by: Poizen | February 15, 2012 at 02:37 PM

Poizen, They have great golf and heve a lot of Resturants have Early Bird Specials.Just saying.My Mom lives there.

Ireland knows Philbin's offensive philosophy and he will Draft according to that. He already started doing that, last year.

What I can't understand is how many people are saying they are for Flynn when they have not one clue what Philbin thinks of his potential. People are saying lets sign Flynn. Why? How about lets wait and see if his ex coach even wants him. Maybe there is a good reason he was a 7th round pick.

POZEN,FPFG, IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT RETIREMENT ASK OSCAR, HE BEEN RETIRED FOR 65 YEARS NOW, OSCAR, WHAT SAY YOU, IS FLORADA OR ARIZONA RETIREMENT STATE?
(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

Gotta feeling Payton will be going to Arizona., Thats where a lot of people go to retire., JMHO.
Posted by: FP4FGs. | February 15, 2012 at 02:35 PM

______________________________________________

That too is my feeling, and has been for awhile. It's a pretty good fit all the way around. Good for AZ....good for Manning.

That division is more or less a fast track to the playoffs with a good QB and from there anything can happen. His home games will be in a dome and he'll have at least one road game in a dome (St. Louis). Other divisional road games aren't too bad where weather is concerned (San Fran & Seattl).

AZ is only a couple years removed from a SB run and they have a lot of talent....one of the few teams IMO that really is a QB away from making a run.

Should the opportunity arise, Kolb may be viewed as a "sunken cost". His guaranteed money has already been paid to him, so if they decide not to pay his option bonus on March 17th, he would become a FA and AZ would owe him nothing and would count ZERO against their cap. The opportunity for AZ to get Manning may be too good to pass up and would therefore not give Kolb his option bonus.

Manning is done. See the latest report now on PFT.

wth is PFT?

There are a lot of risks out there anyway you look at it. I think the fins should draft Ryan Tannehill, pick up Matt Flynn and keep Matt Moore. That is if they have no shot at Andrew Luck or RGIII.

Peyton Manning will be the best FA Player to impact the season that the Miami Dolphins ever signed

last game

Peyton Manning played was against the Jets w a QB rating of about 109

last season

Peyton Manning passed for 33 TDs and 4700 YDs

Sign Peyton Manning to Miami

Fire Armando as he is a complete idiot on this subject

Home 4 Pres :)

Peyton Manning will be the best FA Player to impact the season that the Miami Dolphins ever signed

last game

Peyton Manning played was against the Jets w a QB rating of about 109

last season

Peyton Manning passed for 33 TDs and 4700 YDs

Sign Peyton Manning to Miami

Fire Armando as he is a complete idiot on this subject

Home 4 Pres :)

Peyton Manning will be the best FA Player to impact the season that the Miami Dolphins ever signed

last game

Peyton Manning played was against the Jets w a QB rating of about 109

last season

Peyton Manning passed for 33 TDs and 4700 YDs

Sign Peyton Manning to Miami

Fire Armando as he is a complete idiot on this subject

Home 4 Pres :)

have a HAARPy day :(

Manning underwent an unreported surgery last year between his May surgery and his September cervical neck fusion surgery. Banks adds a lot of new details in his extensive and well-reported piece.

More surgery expected: Manning’s neck has potentially developed bone spurs. The Colts believe further surgery is “nearly inevitable,” even if Manning can successfully return to football this year.

Manning pushed to play in December: The “extent and scope” of Manning’s on-field workouts in December initially frustrated former Colts Vice Chairman Bill Polian. Manning wanted to play in the red zone in the season’s final weeks, but the Colts medical staff ruled it out once they took a look at him.

Manning was unable to throw past 20-22 yards at the time.

“He wanted to go on the field and try to dump red-zone passes against Houston,” a league source told Banks. “Even though his neck muscles hadn’t even been strengthened yet. Can you imagine anyone putting him on the field in that situation? Just to throw a string of red-zone passes? But that’s where things were going at that time, and it kind of speaks to the insanity of the situation.”

Just read an article of Don Banks of CNNSI.COM, apparently Peyton Manning had an "unreported neck procedure" which would make it a total of 4, not 3... Back when the league was locked out...More concerns...

Buh bye, you beat me to it...LOL!!

Montreal, apparently that was when he saw Sofia Vergara in NY during one of the lockout talks, and he broke his neck looking at her.

flash in the pan Matt Flynn has played in 2 NFL games

one game Flynn was a good product of the system and only fumbled once

the other Flynn threw 3 interceptions

now Flynn wants to be a franchise QB and demands $50,000,000.00 from any sucker owner willing to pony it up

Right now Flynn is on a bar stool in Wisconsin, where he has been drunk for going on 3 days pouring salt in his beer and swatting the recessing maggots playing hide n go seek in his way overgrown beard

have a HAARPy day :(

last game

Peyton Manning played was against the Jets w a QB rating of about 109

last season

Peyton Manning passed for 33 TDs and 4700 YDs

Sign Peyton Manning to Miami

Whats up PHINLAND"?, I see the talk is still about Manning, IMHO I'd say no., But WTF do I know?, Home, Welcome back, And when is that Movie(Have A Harrpy Day) of yours comimg out, Who's playing "Home"????,Did you get Brad Pitt???, Or is it gonna be Danny Devito as some in Hollywood say???

DC, did he now? LOL! Didn't know that...

Cuban, where you been bro? They got you in Staten Island or something? Coney Island (last stop on the rails)? Or were you stuck in the bowels of Riker's?

Just read an article of Don Banks of CNNSI.COM, apparently Peyton Manning had an "unreported neck procedure" which would make it a total of 4, not 3... Back when the league was locked out...More concerns...

Reply:

So what?

Home has a procedure every week
On Friday Home has his toe nails cut letting the trimmings fall right to the floor!

Then Home has his freshly cut toe nails filed down

After the procedure
Home continues to play

Home always recovers well and plays well

The women of South Florida like the way Home plays

Home plays even better after the procedure

;)

Was reading Dave Hyde's draft preview, him and others from the sentinel were saying OG David DeCastro is the best guard in the draft since Alan Faneca and Steve Hutchinson. I don't know who's going to draft this kid, but they'll be getting a hell of an o-lineman. I was talking about him a few months ago, this kid is a load. He'll start in the NFL from day 1 and will dominate.

And Home, Who will be your "Love interest in your upcoming film???, Hollywood insiders say you wanted Angelina Jolie but ended up with Rhea Pearlman..., Comment please..

Sun iz Out

Shining bright and 82 degrees right now in South Florida

No visible Chemtrails today in South Florida

Home is heading outside

Home is gonna give Peyton a weather report where his new team practices & plays football outside

Home thinks Peyton will like South Florida and the warm wonderful weather

Home thinks if the Dolphins sign WR Moss for one year to run and catch for Peyton,
that would compliment WR Marshall, RB/WR Bush and WR Bess, WR Hartline and WR Clyde Gates

Home sees QB Peyton then leading the team deep into the playoffs immediately and maybe to the 2013 Super Bowl

Cuz these playas wont be here for the 3 or 4 yr ludicrous plan

Win Now

There is no tomorrow

have a HAARPy day :(

As if it hasn't been obvious since day 1:

STAY AWAY FROM PEYTON MANNING!

I don't know why Manning would want to sign with the Dolphins but what do I know....perhaps things like this appeal to him:

1.) Relatively new ownership still trying to establish itself.

2.) An unproven and questionable front office.

3.) Rookie HC looking to install a completely different defense and a WC type offense.

4.) Probable personell issues related to #3 requiring at least a couple of years of re-modeling (not a ground up re-build, but not just re-decorating either).

5.) Organization does not appear to be in a lay it all out their "win now" mode as evidenced by bringing in a rookie HC.

6.) Organization will most likely want to use a high draft pick on a QB "for the future" rather than a player who could potentially make an immediate impact on the field for Manning to "win now"....more evidence of not being in "win now" mode.

7.) Potential salary cap issues and limited (at the moment) ability to do much in FA without going over cap.

I like how everyone just says...."sign P Manning".....he has to want to come to Miami, and I don't think it will be all that appealing to him considering some of the other opportunities he'll have.

Home why are your writing in 3rd person, your not better than anyone else on the blog you hyprocrit.

Wolf, Like I said before, I Dont see it either, He'll either redo his contract with the Colts(Doubtful after reniging on 28 Mil.) Or he'll go to the cards who have a pretty decent group of players, then again I Would'nt rule out San Fran.

"Which QB of all the options would do better than Henne in 2012?

Peyton Nerve Dead Manning?
Matt Last Round Flynn?
A Rookie?"

Last time I checked Matt already made Henne look like a stooge.

"And to top it all off, a coaching staff with little NFL experience."

Yeah between our coach and OC they "only" have about 60+ years of NFL coaching experience...we are doomed lol

Menace

Home has requested the new 19 yr old SI swimsuit cover model

She is quite cute w luscious curves and all natural dreamy breasts

However
If not available

Home saw a recent pic of Brooke Decker (sexy blonde model & tennis star's wife)
Home also has med - long blonde hair, is quite fit, tanned and aka nature boy or surfer boy

Think Home and Brooke Decker would make quite the HOT COUPLE

Give her a buzz, Menace
See if Brooke will take a stroll on the beach sipping wine w Home
and we will talk

Home has already fixed the fish:

Gates Marshall Bush * Bess Moss
Peyton Manning

in the Miami Spread offense

Gates *** Marshall *** Bush ________ Bess *Moss

____________________ Peyton Manning _____________

please armando stop the hate for peyton manning in a dolphins uniform because it is going to happen and it should be the fins number 1 goal this offseason.!

season 2010

Peyton Manning passed for 33 TDs and 4700 YDs

Sign Peyton Manning to Miami

LOl At Home, Make sure I get a ticket to the first showing of " Have a "HARRPY" Day"...It should be Lavash event......

Like the ring:

Marshall, Manning, Moss


instant NFL relevance

:)

Go Phins!

I Love U, HOME!

xoxoxo

« 1 2 3 4 5 6 »

The comments to this entry are closed.