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Report: Manning cleared to play (sort of)

ESPN is reporting that quaterback Peyton Manning has been cleared to play by two doctors who determined that "the stability in his neck would have allowed the quarterback to play this Sunday if the nerves in his arm had regenerated to a satisfactory performance level."

Great. Manning, as you know, has had three neck surgeries the past 20 months and the fact there is stability in the neck is a positive sign for the 35-year-old as he tries to return to his NFL career after missing the 2011 season.

But ...

The nerves that had basically quit firing, causing repurcussions in the triceps of Manning's (right) throwing arm, including him feeling numbness, suffering atrophy, and losing strength, are apparently still not completely regenerated.

And that is very, very important because that means Manning doesn't have full strength in his arm. And if he doesn't have full strength in his arm, he may or may not have an NFL caliber arm yet. The report says that Manning's problem is not a "safety issue; it's a performance issue."

Um, well the only reason the Dolphins are even remotely interested in Manning is his ability to perform at a Pro Bowl level. Nobody cares that a quarterback can be safe. That is fundamental. They want a quarterback that can performn.

And if Manning still is fighting performance issues, he's still not a sure thing. If he's merely a gamble with uncertain arm strength, I'd say his chances of joining the Dolphins remain ... a long shot at this point.

Now, if the nerves do indeed regenerate to the point Manning's arm resembles the helped him win four MVP awards, the Dolphins definitely will be one of the teams chasing him -- assuming he is available. But we've not reached that point yet.

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The Dolphins announced moments ago they have indeed hired Jim Turner to coach their offensive line, as I reported two days ago. They have also retained defensive line coach Kacy Rodgers, assistant special teams coach Dave Fipp, assistant strength coach Dave Puloka, and defensive quality control coach David Corrao.

 

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Good job Armando.....

When did Soprano's son get fired as the quality contro coach....

Ohhhh....

Defensive quality control coach....

I think someone is going to jump at Manning, healthy or not and take the risk. The question really is one of money...What is someone willing to pay for the risk and what safeguards will there be. That is one of the reasons I think the Redskins will sign him....Snyder has always been reckless.

Armando,

Are you getting any info from your insiders as to Philbin's honest assessment of Flynn?

It would be great for us to know what he really thinks of Moore, Flynn and even perhaps Henne.


I need a reason to keep checking the blog because things have gotten so dull. I may wait until game one of next season before I start checking back regularly.

Ross is way too cheap to pay a Peyton Manning.

Well, we went 11-5, afc east champs, with "noodle-armed" Pennington. Peyton "as is" should be at least good for a wildcard berth.

But, I warn you, we'll win a wilcard berth with Manning, then there's the problem to stomach yet another playoffs one and done.

Peyton Manning is going to play in 2012 and he is going to be an interception machine at worst and Chad Pennington at best.

The Dolphins will go after him because he will fill the stadium.

Ross has the cheapest GM, HC, and QB's in the NFL. What does he expect?

DA,

The "new nfl year" hasnt begun yet. So legally Flynn is still under contract. Philbin cant talk about him without violating league "tampering rules".

With two of the top three picks going to the o-line, could Fins get 4 to 6 years out of Manning?

Hopefully we will jump at Manning...

Manning @ 70%=top 10 QB....

Top 10 QB= playoffs....

Signed,
Do the math

The "new nfl year" hasnt begun yet. So legally Flynn is still under contract. Philbin cant talk about him without violating league "tampering rules".

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone | February 02, 2012 at 06:26 PM

I didn't think about that. When does the new year officially begin?

Bad shoulder weak arm - sounds like Pennington.

Matt Moore camre into a new system at the start of the season and went 6-3 when he finally got the chance to start.

He will only improve going forward.

Manning's career would probably end by mid-season if he plays behind the Fins existing o-line.

sometimes when i break wind.. i have an embarassing leak from my brown eyed friend.

On the other side of the ball:

The Dolphins pass defense was ranked around 25 last year so I say check the secondary for improvements.

i like to juggle hairy balls myself, and of course check the prostrate.

godamn trolls!

troll? Not so much honey.

This blog is definitely way better during the season. Now, well, enough said.

Joe Montana took the Chiefs t the AFC championship game in one year....

Manning has a shot at doing the same for us.....or better.....

The biggest draw back on Manning will be the system HE wants to run....

I doubt he will want to learn something totally foreign to him when he was so successful running the offense he ran in Indy....

That could be the biggest push back....

Peyton is an upgrade over any of this QB. We don't know or seen much of Flynn to just gamble on him. It was like Pennington, his success in NY had already spoke for itself. Manning will give us a spark and motivates the locker room. Guys want to win and they know we can get that with manning. The Colts defense has never been great but Peyton keeps them in the game. I wouldn't care about the money. We made that mistake on Culpepper and this is Peyton Manning, we're talking about.

If Denver could modify their offense to accomodate Tebow's style of play, it should be a lot easier for the Fins to modify their offense to match Manning.

Tim in Tampa -you r a troll lover......

Manning will NEVER put on a Dolphins uniform, please accept this and move on folks...there is nothing to see here!

Get Peyton Manning and Reggie Wayne

1st Luke Kuechly ILB
2nd Coby Fleener TE
3rd Marcus Forston DT
4th Aaron Henry FS
5th Matt Reynolds OT
6th Jordan White WR
7th Russell Wilson QB

P.MANNING IF HE RETURNS TO PLAY,THE ONLY TEAM HE WOULD PLAY FOR IS THE FINS ........


WE HAVE THE BEST DENTISTS IN THE WHOLE WORLD ..........HE WILL PASS MEDICAL WITH US ....JUST ASK BREES AND ODRICK ......

Manning is toast.

Weak arm and big $. Plus, he hasn't played in over a year.

Phins better to go with Flyn and have a future than another 40 year old Bret Farve.

Swamy....

I would agree if we had an established coach....

But Philbin got hired on the belief that HIS (philbin's) system is effective....and I am sure Philbin is eager to prove both himself and the owner right for being in to the PHILBIN system.....

If you bring in Mannning....manning will get all the credit....and Philbin will be seen as a coach....ALONG FOR THE RIDE.....and a new one at that....

Anybody remember the name of the recently fired Colts coach......

Did anybody ever know it....I know I didn't.....

Don't get me wrong...I want Peyton.....

But is Philbin willing to gamble his coaching future on him.....

We want a blogger that can spell.

Manning had one oc his entire career, stability. He had some good receivers and good RB's and a good D. I say Peyton is one of the best ever. But still, he has only one ring.

What makes people think he will waltz into a new system on a new team in the twilight of his career and bring a trophy in 1 or 2 years.

It is not logical.

Point...

Like I said before....

See Joe montana...and the Chiefs...one year...AFC Championship.....

So it can be done...When you have that kind of talent....

Point.....

There is also....Brett Favre for the Vikings.....

Who came within....a few Adrian Peterson fumbles of the SB....

So again....it can be done....

Horrible example follows...

Trent Dilfer rode the Ravens D to a SB in the 1st year.....

I know.....I hate the 2000 ravens as an example.....

I bring it up to say he played 6 years in Tampa.....and then won the SB with the a ravens in In his FIRST YEAR IN A NEW SYSTEM.....

Yes....he was a care taker...game manager....whatever you want to call him.....

But still...1st year in a new system...SB.....

So it can be done....

Did Montana win the AFC championship? I don't think so. I think Marino terminated his career.

If they get Peyton Manning I'll consider buying a ticket.

Who said WIN.....

I said made it there....

You do enjoy watching the FINS play post season football right.....

Ause that is what we are talking about.....

Don't be another one of those postes who SEES what he wants....RATHER than responding ti what what written....

It demeans us all.....

I clearly said SEE MY EARLIER POST ABOUT THE CHIEFS....

Not gona keep writing the whole post....when you could just as easily read it.....

Some of you guys try to act so smart...yet still come of as extremely dim witted.....

If you stop trying to be such jack @sses.....maybe you could see what was ACTUALLY written.....

As Opposed to just what you Want to fight about.....

I wasn't gonna ask...but now I gotta SMART GUY.....

WTF did Dan Marion have to do with ending Joe Montana's career.....

The lower I.Q. Poster (myself included).....would LOVE to know you you connect those dots.....POINT....

How you

Kris you seem a little uptight. Or maybe I am reading you wrong.

Odinseye don't know if you were banned from posting but obviously you can still read posts so hopefully you see this. I just went back to the last blog because Someone in here said you were having a problem,might have been banned. I read what happened and just wanted to say welcome to the club.

I've been trying to get Armando to get rid of these people for years. I've posted viable solutions ,all of which get ignored. Any time I bring it up someone screams freedom of speech as if that is supposed to allow an individual to verbally assault and insult another person without consequence. We all know that in the real world, face to face, unwarranted verbal attacks are met with a fist to
the face.

So many times I have tried to point this problem out ,ignored. I tried to get people to boycott the blog with me, ignored. Wrote to the editor and whomever else would listen, ignored. Started a list of names so we could all ignore those not on it, that was my last hope as I tried to solve the problem myself. That had a little success but people started talking to those not on the list and ruined it.

Bottom line? There are good forums out there that have standard rules of civility and protect their customers by throwing out anyone who violates the decency code. This is not one of those forums and it's unfortunate because there are some really great people in here.

The one thing I can say for Armando is I did email him once to point out someone who was stalking me and he got rid of the person. Not sure if you tried that yet. Don't assume Armando reads all of these posts, email is the best way to get help. If we can't stomach reading half of these posts I'm sure he feels the same. And I'm not sure he's in full control over editing and policing either.

I fully agree with you, as evidenced by my similar struggles. Hopefully things will eventually change but I'm not holding my breath. I do know it's hard to get into another forum because you build connections with the good fans who like to talk about our Phins. My advice, unsolicited as it is, would be to make a list of the people you enjoy debating with and ignore all others. It's the only way to protect yourself.

Kris..I understand your point(or I think I'm on the same page) when you bring up the Ravens team with Dilfer..I know they are the exception to the rule..I probably don't have to go into the details as I assume this is part of your point..

My point about Flynn isn't a Pro Flynn stance..I'm just looking at it from what I think the teams point of view may be..Or one of the many that go into the evaluation.. The system familiarity cannot be ignored. I do agree it will not be impossible for another quarterback to learn this system..There may even be another guy out there capable of executing it better then Flynn. I just think it gives us a tremendous head start offensively having a guy that knows this scheme up and down..I feel confident if he is aquired he can be a compatant player, an upgrade. I could be totaly wrong, and he could bust and the team(and myself look like baffoons) It is a gamble. If we play the hand. We have to trust the guy holding the cards(Philbin) is holding the nuts.

I wouldn’t go on a team with Jeff Ireland. I’m not very confident in him,” said Crowder, who has been hosting his Miami-based radio show from Indy all week. “He doesn’t know what he’s doing in my opinion. He’s real disrespectful, he doesn’t know how to deal with people and the whole Dez Bryant (situation) kind of showed to the world what he’s about, but guys in the building know what he’s really about.”

(In case you forgot, Ireland asked Bryant during a pre-draft interview if his mother once was a prostitute. The GM later apologized.)

“He’s not a good person,” Crowder added. “He has no class, and I wouldn’t choose to go back and play there. And I would have to say it’s the only team I don’t want to play for.”

i want peyton manning!

Phins78..Good post. I have tried to E-Mail Armando as well..For some reason my server will not send to his address. So I E-mailed the paper(A few months ago in this instance) And recieved no response. I'm not sure there is much any of can do as the Herald, and Armando have done little in the way of even addressing the issue. At least a comment by Aramndo assuring the readers that something will be done would be nice...

I am guilty as any of getting off topic. I try to ignore the posts that are meant to simply draw the worst out each of us..There is nothing much I can do about the imposter DD except believe the folks who read the stuff understand my writing style, and recognize that I try to be civil, and open minded..

I'm sure this post will be met with some resistance, a few heckles, even an appearance by my doppelganger.. Any ideas would be welcomed. It is sad to see what has happened to this blog. It won't be long before nobody comes here if Armando and Co. fail to do something.

..@ 9:51 Won't be long before nobody...Nice sentance.. That was supposed to read. Nobody will be here if this continues much longer.

What up fellow Miami Dolphins fans.Quickly,I just wan to say that some posts are beyond Miami Dolphins football.As commentators here We as Dolphans should have some kind of civility and respect for each other.Some posts read like tomes.Others like a Hitler speech.
No to Peyton Manning.
Bienvenido a Miami Mateo Flynn.What # jersey would you like to wear in aqua&orange?

Phins78....

Great post....

I do have a mental list of bloggers who I stop to read...and will converse with...but I still get sucked in...especially when it's slow....

I even called the Herald at one point...and talked to Armando's boss....

While he was polite....I got the feeling he wasn't to interested in what I had to say....and since then little to nothing has changed....

It's unfortunate....but it is the reality of this blog...

Daryl....

I'm on board with Matt Flynn....but I think he should be plan B.....with drafting a QB to be plan C....and of course...manning being plan A.....

But I do get a really good vibe from Flynn...he has had a chance to learn from one of the best in the business....but the barometer for Flynn is Philbin....so if he pursues him SERIOUSLY....I'm all in....

How much validity do channing crowder's words have?
Was the Dez Bryant interviewed overblowned by the media?
Are African-American footballers taken it personal?
To the extent that they would undermine and/or sabotage Our franchise?
Will replacing Ireland have a positive perspective on Our beloved franchise from that faux pas?

I'm PRO-PEYTON....

But I'm not ANTI-FLYNN

I'm wondering if Ireland will trade 3 picks for a backup kicker. Or find us another Pat White LOL

Peyton could end up being a reincarnation of Chad Pennington. One spectacular season with a playoff appearance.Then starts to dilapidate.Chad is the barometer of any worn-out qb who becomes a starting qb for Our Dolphins.Even inept henne wasn't a new qb.Didn't he start like for 4 years in Michigan?
Mateo Flynn has that new car smell!

Darryl, (the REAL one)...your posts are always intelligent, respectful, and agree or not with you, well reasoned.
I'm late to the party here, so I'm not sure what the ruckus is all about, and whose been "banned."

I'm a moderator on a 52k member website (with about a million hits per year, and it takes 8 of us to maintain things, with FAR less acrimony/trolls than here. Our problem, as we are a coffee/espresso based website are spammers.
We have the ability to close accounts based on the IP address. I'm guessing that may not be doable here.

Sorry for the Off Topic.

ON Topic, Peyton keeps reiterating that he loves Indianapolis the city, the team, Irsay, etc.
As Manning's made at least 150 million in salary and commercials thus far, perhaps he'll tell Irsay "let restructure the deal...lets make that 28 million 10 million to me, use the other 18 for FA (if that's allowed), and give me a chance to get us back too the Superbowl, while Luck watches and learns."
Ya never know.

Ireland’s inability to get an elite QB after four years, combined with his backstabbing & brown-nosing, are all reasons the we couldn’t attract a quality head coach. Potential candidates looked for the positives of working with him and found none.

Darryl...there is an easy way to prevent the fake posters using your name. Register on Typepad then your name shows up in blue and lets everyone know it's the real your.

To Point@ 9:02.You posted that Marino terminated Joe Montana's career.Please forgive me. I wouldn't be a Miami Dolphins if it weren't for Dan.However,the 49ers annihilated Us in the SB with Montana.Joe was a wash-out with the Chiefs.I love Marino but Montana was at his best with San Francisco.Joe just didn't want to accept like Manning that their better qbing years are behind them.

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