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Steep price of trading up can be worthwhile

Sometimes trading up is the right thing to do. Sometimes trading up is brilliant. Sometimes trading up helps win a Super Bowl.

Or two.

If the Dolphins were to have doubts they can fill their quarterback situation the hard way -- the right way, in my opinion -- by trading up to get Robert Griffin III for example, all they have to do for affirmation is look at what the New York Giants did in 2004 with Eli Manning.

Manning, you'll recall, was supposed to be the No. 1 overall selection of the 2004 draft. But the San Diego Chargers held that pick and the Manning clan made clear to the Chargers they didn't want to be in Southern Cal. (Who knows, maybe Eli didn't like Mexican food or something). Well, the Chargers picked Manning anyway, but only because they had a trade already executed with with the New York Giants, who had picked Phillip Rivers with the No. 4 overall pick.

Basically the Giants traded away their No. 1 pick in 2004 (Rivers), their No. 1 pick in 2005 (turned out to be Shawne Merriman), their third-round pick in 2004 (turned out to be K Nick Kaeding) and their fifth-round pick in 2005.

So two firsts, a third and a fifth for the top overall selection.

It was considered a treasure trove of picks then. Today, it is considered a wise investment for the Giants, who have won two Super Bowl titles the past four years with Manning as their quarterback.

So I turn your attention to the coming draft in April. Unless there is a major surprise, Andrew Luck will be selected with the first overall pick. The St. Louis Rams have the second pick and coach Jeff FIsher recently said his team is open to trading the pick to the highest bidder.

That pick can be used to select Griffin.

So what would it cost the Dolphins to rise from No. 8 or No. 9, depending on a coin toss, to No. 2?

A lot.

It will take at least two first round picks and probably closer to three first round picks. And it might actually take this years No. 1, next year's No. 1, the 2014 No. 1 and possibly something else like a third or fifth rounder thrown in there somewhere.

I wasn't kidding when I said a lot.

It sounds like an outrageous price to pay. It seems ludicrous that the Dolphins would pay it. But in weighing whether to pay it or not, one must balance that steep price with the idea that Griffin will likely play a decade and he may well become every bit the franchise quarterback that Eli Manning is today.

No, I'm not saying Griffin will win two Super Bowls someday. I am saying that to a club that has a conviction on Griffin, to a club that believes him to be a franchise talent, the price is worth it.

Yesterday, I told you why I don't believe Peyton Manning as a free agent is the answer in my opinion. Mostly it has a lot to do with the lack of certainty about this nerve issues but it also has a tremendous amount to do with the fact his window with his new team is two, maybe three years at best.

That is not a long-term solution to Miami's quarterback situation.

By the time Peyton is saying good-bye to the NFL, RG3 will be warming up for his primetime years. You must remember that Eli didn't win the starting job his first year in the NFL. And in his second year, he posted a 0.0 quarterback rating in a game against Baltimore. And yet, the Giants had the courage of their conviction on the kid. The stuck with him, grew with him, and now they're reaping the rewards of that long hike to the promised land.

That's how great organizations handle the quarterback issue. The Steelers, Patriots, Packers, Ravens, Falcons, Colts, Lions all trained their sites on draft picks they believed would become franchise QBs and went with their conviction on those players.

I understand Houston, Chicago and New Orleans acquired their franchise QBs differently -- through trade or free agency. But none of the players those teams acquired where over 30 much less 36. Peyton Manning will be 36 next month.

Griffin will be 22 years old next week. He can play a decade for Miami and still be many useable years younger than Peyton Manning is today.

And I get the idea that perhaps Griffin will be a bust. As Bill Parcells is fond of saying, they don't sell insurance for this stuff. But I just don't see how this kid doesn't succeed. He's got the arm. He's got the brains -- he graduated seventh in his high school class, was on the Baylor Dean's list multiple times, was on the Big 12 Commissioner's list in 2010, graduated Baylor in three years and was working on his Master's Degree this past season -- and he obviously has the athletic prowess.

It also must be said RG3 carries no personal baggage. Kid lives right, prays hard, works hard, comes from a military family and is getting married soon. He's the kind of kid you want as a son-in-law.

I do not see how RG3 misses the mark in the NFL. Does he throw off his back foot sometimes? Yes. But I hear that is what coaches are paid to correct.

RG3 will be an NFL franchise QB long after Peyton Manning is out of the league. That's only my opinion. The Dolphins have scouts. I suppose they have an opinion. General manager Jeff Ireland has Baylor connections as an alumnus of the school. I suppose he has an opinion. They should know things about the kid no one else does.

But if they don't know that sometimes you have to pay a price to buy a top prospect, all they have to do is look at the New York Giants and how they got their franchise quarterback. It was done with a draft-day trade-up that cost tons of treasure.

But that trade-up has returned tons of treasure as well in the form of Super Bowl rings.

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I meant *RUIN* the place. As in completely trash the joint at the first sight of jets and pastsy fans!

Till the Wheels Fall Off Bro!

odinseye | February 07, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Cats and Dogs living together in peace type anarchy!!

fin4life.......... LEAVE ODIN ALONE .......

ALoco | February 07, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Huhhh?? You gotta give it to odin, one way or the other the most discussed bloger on the site.

ALoco,

Picture our QB options as Value Meals at Burger King.

No.1 A healthy Peyton Manning W/Cheese.

No.2 A Matt Flynn W/Chicken Nuggets.

No.3 A Robert Griffin W/Super Sized Fries.

What says you?

(Food For Thought)

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I just saw something on the new NBC Sports Channel which had me LMAO!! It seems an internet based sports betting line sent N.E. WR Wes Welker 900 Pds. of BUTTERFINGERS candy bars to his home. On the Channel their calling it classless and wrong to treat someone as classy as Welker in that fashion, me LMAO!!

I smell an endorsement deal!

Move over Bart Simpson, Wes Welkers moving in.

I smell

Posted by: odinseye | February 07, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Coming up on NFL Total Access: Do Fins Need A QB?
Can't wait to here this.

Mando,
This and yesterday's piece are some of the best articles you have written here. Bravo!!!! Excelente!!! You are 150% correct about your assessment -via historic numbers and stats- about the chances we have with Manning at the helm. At best I think we could get the deal the Jets got when they brought Vinny Testaverde in. A solid year or two and then poof!

I really hope Mr. Ross, who is supposed to be a shrewd business man, does not buy into fixing a deep wound with a band aid -just like you said it- and goes bold with RG3. Is it a risk? Of course, in fact it is a huge gamble. But also an educated one.

I'm hoping Mr. Ross is also a bit of a poker player and all this Manning talk is nothing but a bluff. Like in poker, numbers and probabilities play a huge role, it isn't just luck, and as you also pointed out RG3 has everything you can hope for in a prospect QB to make that move and go all in.

I smell

Posted by: odinseye | February 07, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Vivian Vance | February 07, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Vivian Vance as in Lucy Ricardo's best friend Ethel Mertz who use to sleep with that old smelly guy Fred!?

What's not to like about this guy! He wears freaken Cookie Monster socks LOL and was the most interesting QB in college football!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhyqhn1LJps

We need this guy. Marino seems to like him, he was very impressed except for his actual height. To be fair Dan is pretty darn tall, and RG3 in fact is taller than Vick, he has Steve Young and Aaron Rodgers size. He will be a perfect WCO QB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=k9zkRL-HcRA

I'm not too fond on Mel Kiper but he has it 110% right with RG3 going to Miami.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=szZRuYXpoWA

Well, it seems as though Brian Baldinger and Nick Barnett feel Matt Moore should be given the opportunity to continue to start for the team under the new head coach.
Nick Barnett said the offense they will run in Miami with Philbin and Sherman is very quarterback friendly and also added, "will they get him(Flynn), he would be nice to have but do they need him, not really, because the system they run is very conducive to Matt(Moore)..."
Very interesting comments from someone who plays the game.

Nobody knows nuttin'.

I've been a 30 year fan of the dolphins and I'm apolled you guys would even consider a sandlot player.. Gentlemen I've watched perhaps the greatest thrower of our time "Dan Marino" give us meaning, history, greatness, one man show, and more anything I'm proud to say he maybe the greatest QB of all time WHICH PLAYED FOR THE DOLPHINS.......... And you guys want to draft a sand lot player........ It's unfortunate that with the Kid from USC staying in college broke our back, but it happened so the dophins need to imprevise, take the best available position player (Pass rusher, wide reciever, or DB) and persue payton or Flynn preferably Payton and grab the kid from USC next year to exceed Payton later on, but don't you ever insult the dolphins by saying such a luticrus thing such a RG111. Makes me sick to even think about him in a Dolphin uniform..

Who is RG 111? Is he a prototype?

Gauge1354 I agree, RG3 is the man! Lets grab him!

NO MANDO, NO.

What we would have to trade up for Griffin makes no sense.

I can understand your trepidation on Manning, but look, there is still a decent chance Manning will return and be Manning for 3 years. Even if he is 85% Manning for 3 years, I'd still take it. Draft Tannehil and use the rest of the draft picks to solidify the team.

We don't have to be great on Defense with 85% Manning, we just have to be good, and we will be.

Imagine how many Superbowls the Colts would have won with a top ten defense...that's what we will have.

But, lets say Manning isn't healthy, I would still take Flynn over RG3. For one, Flynn has been developed in a good system, we have seen him play 2 games and he seems like he can be serviceable to say the least.

You will rebuttal that RG3 has a higher ceiling, debatable.

But with Flynn we don't lose 3 1st round draft picks. And that my friend is something you can't rebuttal.

Flynn & 3 first rounders vs. RG3? That's not even a question.

With that 1st round talent and Flynn the team is way better off.

Manning or Flynn, that's the way its gonna go. My heart says Manning. My head says Flynn.

Fins need to make the move for once and grab that franchise QB for god sakes!! , and to the people that say 2 or 3 first round picks is way too much just look at it this way we've pretty much kept every first round pick for the last forty years and haven't won anything so it sounds well worth giving a few away for what may be a great QB

The Dolphins passed on Drew Brees twice. In the 2001 draft the Phins took Jamar Fletcher at #26, 6 picks later SanDiego took Brees. Then we signed Cullpepper instead of Brees.
I watched Jay Cutler play at Vandy (son went there) for four years and begged the 'Phins to take him in the 2006 draft through letters to Dolphin Digest and Miami Herald. They drafted Jason Allen. How'd that work out?
I know I'm just Joe fan but us fans watch football constantly.

GO GET ANDREW LUCK!!!

This could NOT be any plainer. He is THE GUY as sure as the sun rises in the east.

The Dolphins would be wise to pursue all options. When it's all said and done the final option may end up being Matt Moore and a QB taken at 8-9 or lower. RG3 is likely a pipe dream since the competition for him will include the Vikings, Browns, Redskins, and possibly the Seahawks at minimum. The Browns have 2 first rounds this year, so they are in a better bargaining position. Moreover, the previous blog regarding Manning suggested such a deal would compromise long term success. I would suggest to you that if Miami were to trade up for the minimum number of picks required and RG3 isn't as successful in the NFL as hoped (he wouldn't be the first) the future is irreparably damaged.

Flynn isn't a sure thing either. Fortunately, for the Dolphins, the best judge of that is coach Philbin. Even so, there's no guarantee he would sign with Miami as there are other previously mentioned teams who may be in a position to make a more lucrative offer.

As for Manning, yes, he would be a short term remedy, assuming he's healthy, which should be determinable. I disagree that he would compromise the future, in that he has indicated he would structure a contract that wouldn't destroy a teams long term cap. If so, then drafting a QB with the 8-9 pick or lower can also be done, thus planning for the future. Moreover, keeping Moore wouldn't be impossible either as insurance should Manning not be as durable has he has been in the past. That said, Manning may not chose to come to Miami, since once again, there are even more teams that would certainly be interested in him.

So as first stated, if drafting RG3 is not possible (even if desirable), and Flynn gets a better offer elsewhere, or the Dolphins pass on Manning (or he passes) then you have the scenario I first suggested, which is essentially status quo.

Hence, the best strategy is to pursue all options aggressively, starting with Manning, as he would likely be the first available, as there are no guarantees with any of them for the Dolphins.

First of all, I don't like to sell the farm for one player. A scenario no one has mentioned would be to sign our QB in FA. If griffin falls to us get him if not trade down (if possible). We may be able to do this twice and still keep a late first rounder to help our line , and pick up some 2and 3 rounders. We can fix a lot of our problems here. Players I like would be : Cordy Glenn- OG (1st), Allen or Fleener-TE(2nd), Vontaze Burfict- ILB(2nd-3rd), Brian Quick-WR(2nd-3rd), Alameda Ta'amu-DT(3rd). Pass rusher would need to be addressed in FA. Mario or Abraham would be great. With Peyton willing to work on a production basis, he may be the best to go with for cap space. A project QB on day 3 I like is Coleman at UT-Chat. I see all these players as immediate starters and Jeffy can dig diamonds from the coal pile on day three. In this scenario we don't need to resign
Solia(too expensive/save cap). Also Ryan Broyles may slip late into day 3 or to UFA if injury keeps him out of combine and pro days. He may be that diamond that could make Bess expendable for later on, same type of player with much more explosiveness. I would really be excited to get Burfict and Quick(exceptional athletes that play with passion and love for the game). Any comments?

The neck is not the problem with Manning. It's the nerves that go to his right arm. They have atrophied (that means degenerated or wasted away due to injury). He literally can't make his throwing arm work as well as he once could. Don't go down that road. You have no idea how that will turn out. Very few regain 100% when that happens. Go get Andrew Luck and let the Colts worry about how to treat their best player ever. But he is done.

The ONLY way I'd do that trade would be to get a high 2nd rounder for Moore, a 2nd rounder next year for Bess or Hartline, Keep Henne (worth more than the 3rd rounder we'd get for him, trade as many DE's as we can for draft picks...in other wards load up on QUANTITY of draft picks 2012 and 2013, and trade our first this year and next...remember, the Rams pick AIN'T Andrew Luck..unless the Colts pull a Houston (Mario Williams instead of Reggie Bush) and pick RG3 INSTEAD OF LUCK!!! (not gonna happen)
So, 2 #1's and Marshall. The Pro Bowl enhanced his stature, good for us. Unfortunately, Ireland lacks the stones to go for it.

Another thing, Mando is getting VERY persuasive these last couple of days. I have to respect his argument that RG3's entire resume of good deeds, character, smarts are a huge +. (weeelll, it's the Texas educational system, only SLIGHTLY better than the state of Fla. LOL)..but I'll cut him some slack there.
Tip of the cap to Mando who, IMO has really stepped up his game, whether you agree or not with his POV.

IMA,I can't see those trades. Henne (if we did have him under contract) and Moore not that valuable. Mario not under contract and it is not conceivable Bush for an all pro DE. Can see a 2nd for Bess tho.

Misread your quote about Mario and Bush.

Sorry if i wasn't clear.
I meant that back a few years ago, much to the amazement of everyone, Houston chose Mario Williams INSTEAD of Reggie Bush.
Using that as an example that you NEVER KNOW...the Colts might pull a switch like that and select RG3, feeling that Luck might not have the temperament to attempt to displace Peyton in the hearts of Colts fans. (actually, Luck seems very calm, cool, and confident, something Fins QB's have lacked for years.)

Badger...we B COOL.
I misread a BUNCH in my lifetime!

Posted by: Geez | February 08, 2012 at 12:01 AM

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Sadly, I must agree, at least the last 15 years.
Long needs to stay healthy. Credit though to our FO for Wake. Not Dansby, as he cost a fortune and only woke up at game 12.

I realize Wake was a FA, but a STEAL.

I remember the Mario draft pick and you are right, nobody knows what can happen. Only one team needs to like someone to shake up the whole draft.

Vontaze Burfict is an animal. I like him better than any defensive player in the draft.

Yeppers, Badger.
I'm afraid the rams, having a far less precipitous climb to the Rams pick will beat us to him.
Several others will fall to us in round 2, including Nick Foles, a very interesting prospect.
The combine will show more, if he goes...and he should.
He played for a very badly coached team, and fell apart in some big games, as he had to do it all.

Kellen Moore my next favorite. Russell Wilson is a great talent, but at
5'9" is a question mark, I believe.

Whoops, meant the REDSKINS climbing up to get the Rams pick.
Time for bed.
Night to all here.

Kellen Moore my next favorite. Russell Wilson is a great talent, but at
5'9" is a question mark, I believe.

Posted by: IMAWriter | February 08, 2012 at 01:25 AM


5'9 LOL

You guys could live for 500 years and still keep dreaming your second rate selections will ever amount to anything.

The Dolphins religiously botch their second round picks anyway. So if the Colts want this year's 1st (1400) and 2nd rounder (500) and next year's first (1000 or more if they pick 16th or higher) for the top pick overall (3000) it's worth it. Even if they have to add another pick or player.

If you want something you haven't had before (or in a very long time) you have to be willing to do something you haven't done before.

RG3 is the ONLY way to go...even that big of a cost in picks is totally worth it..if Ireland pulls it off I will actually forgive him and give him a chance to win my heat back...if Ireland cowers into a corner and selects an O Lineman instead...well then his head must roll

Armando keeps proving over and over how little he knows bout football. None of those players were peyton manning, and for every first round qb there are five that didn't win a superbowl and two that were a bust. Peyton manning hasnt missed the playoffs in a decade. Seriously, get us another reporter for this feed, PLEASE.

Nanog, ur an idiot. He isn't 5 9 he's 5 11 and he will become a. Great player. I saw him in college, four year starter, can make any throw.

Hot in the locker room too, I caught a glimpse.

Nanog, ur an idiot. He isn't 5 9 he's 5 11 and he will become a. Great player. I saw him in college, four year starter, can make any throw.

Posted by: inimounts | February 08, 2012 at 04:14 AM


Learn to read azzwipe. I was clearly referring to the other to guys. Get yourself an enema.

Cleveland will be tough to top. Two picks in this year's 1st Rd. plus they can throw in one next year and we're off the table. I don't like the (3) 1st Rdr. scenario but I do want an aggressive approach to RG111...maybe this & next year's #1's & #3's, & next year's #5 or a player like a Hartline, Bess or Sean Smith?

But wait, you are contradicting yourself. Luck would be the Eli of this draft and RB III will be the Rivers. In order to stay with your thought, we need to trade up for luck Armando

Trading three #1 picks for ANY PLAYER is NUTS!!...... did you smoke your breakfast Armando!!!! ????? Not even for Tom Brady or rejuvenated Joe Montana!!! lmao

so trade the first round pick for the next 3 years for griffin? like yesterday, i just dont get it. griffin could be the next eli or the next j. russell, if they miss with trading 3 first round picks they are screwed. I would like to get griffin, but not at that price. Eli would be my choice, select the qb with the most potential in a later round and let him sit ffor a couple of years behind peyton to learn the game. armando used the pats as an example of sticking with your draft pick, well tom brady was picked in round 6 and they already had drew bledsoe.

not sure about risking that much for RG3... would for Andrew Luck.... prob wrong about this

Went to the Giants parade and "screamed my lungs out"!!!

Can't wait until I can hop a plane and "scream my lungs out" at a Dolphins Super Bowl parade.


Congrats to the New York Football Giants

And

Lets Go Fins:D

Morning Dolfans. Heard an interesting story on the radio this morning. Sometimes we get into a fishbowl here, and the beauty of this blog with fans from everywhere is they can bring these tidbits to the table for everyone to sample.

Warning: I don't stand by this story, I just heard it. It has been discredited by the Redskins (Haslett) but that doesn't make it not true. Take it with a grain of salt but make of it what you wish.

So this Redskins fan wrote a post somewhere (didn't catch if it was facebook, twitter, or what). He described an encounter with Redskins DC (Haslett). He says he approached Haslett at a child's volleyball tourney wanting to talk shop (and future of the Redskins). Haslett was surprisingly open and frank (if you believe the fan).

Now to the important nuggets (that I took). This fan says Haslett basically dismissed all notions of the Redskins being interested in Matt Flynn. Haslett said the word on the street is Flynn was NOT a very good QB out of college, has a very weak arm, and is a media invention (based on the Detroit game). Shanahan took a look, and then said there's nothing to see here (not a direct quote, just paraphrasing). Interesting.

Shanahan, as some of you may know, Coached one of the teams in the Senior Bowl. Haslett says he (and Kyle, his son and OC) left UNIMPRESSED with every single QB there (Weeden, Tannehill, Foles, whomever was there). They believe after Luck and RG3, the QB pool in the Draft is uninspiring.

Haslett says the Redskins have one focus and one focus only to improve their QB position....Peyton Manning.

So, that's the story. Again, could this guy be lying, sure (though on the radio a host backed up one of his statements that Haslett refuted, so, there's that). Could Haslett be lying to the guy, throwing him off the scent, sure. You never know these days what's the truth or not.

I just think it's interesting (because I've felt the same and heard from other areas) that the Redskins don't believe in Flynn, and that he's not as good as the hype is suggesting. I also think it's interesting Shanahan (a pretty good talent evaluator) feels the rest of the QB pack in the Draft are less than to be desired.

Wanted to put that out there. Continue with your regularly scheduled program.

I don't know if this is plausible,
but,
what would be the best long term scenario?
Giving up high picks in subsequent drafts for RGIII,
or,
just going "Mike Ditka" and surrendering the entire 2012 draft for RGIII?

Amando....Rams may ask for 3 number ones but won't get it. I think at least 2 of the 3 teams (Redskins, Dolphins, Browns) that would be willing to move up will solve their QB needs before the draft by signing Flynn or Manning. I don't see the Seahawks in the bidding but they may go after Manning. I don't think Cleveland will trade up...they have too many needs and at #4 are in good position to solve a really big need at WR with Justin Blackmon. Bottom line...I don't think the demand will be there.

DUSTY AND OZKAR:

DO YOU BELIEVE IN WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT GIVING A QB 3 YEARS BEFORE THE LIGHT COMES ON.

THAT'S 48 GAMES OF PLAYING TIME.

DON'T GET ME WRONG THERE'S THE MARINO AND PAYTON BUT FOR THE MOST PART EVERYONE ELSE IS BRESS AND ELI. THOSE THAT BECOME ELITE THAT IS.

LOOK AT ROGERS.

HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL LATE LAST YEAR.

THEY ONLY MADE THE PLAYOFFS BECAUSE THE GIANTS PUNTED THE BALL TO DESEAN JACKSON. WHO RETURNED IT FOR A TD.

NOW EVERYONE IS CALLING HIM ONE OF THE BEST.

HENNE NEEDS ANOTHER YEAR.

IF ANYBODY THOUGHT WE WOULD GO ANY WHERE THIS YEAR IS CRAZY.

I WILL LOVE TO SELL THEM THE EMPIRE STATE BUILDING FOR ONLY A MILLION.

JUST GIVE ME THE MONEY AND I WILL BE RIGHT BACK.

SPARANO SHOULDN'T OF GOTTEN FIRED.

EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T LIKE HIM. HE DESERVED ANOTHER YEAR ALSO BUT WHATEVER.

HENNE HAD SOME GREAT GAMES AGINST SOME GREAT TEAMS WITH NO TRAINING CAMP, LESS WEAPONS AND A NEW O-LINE.

THAT'S THIS YEAR.

LAST YEAR A BEAT UP O-LINE NO RUNNING GAME THE SAME JUNK OF WEAPONS.

HE NEEDS TIME TO GROW.

HE NEEDS WEAPONS.

AND HE'S THE BEST CHOICE FOR THE DOLPHINS.

PS WHOM EVER THIS SW PERSON IS.

SW:

I THINK IT'S TIME FOR YOU TO GROW UP.
PEACE TO YOU ON YOUR QUEST OF BECOMING A MAN.

TO THE OTHER PERSON OR THE SAME PERSON:

YOU ARE A SAD. I'M SORRY FOR YOU.


Just to put a bow on my post, with all due respect to Shanahan, the person who BEST knows what Matt Flynn has to offer is Philbin. The person with the MOST to gain/lose out of this decision is Philbin. He's gotta take the credit or blame depending on how this works out. If Philbin decides Flynn is his guy, I've gotta at least give him room to make it work (I don't have to like it, but at least respect the decision).

This is Philbin's (and Ireland's) call. What will be interesting is if they both have differing opinions, and whose wins out in the end (or does Ross break the tie).

Mando- Manning and RG3 are all you seem preoccupied with. I agree that Manning is just a stop gap and not the long term solution. However the price for RG3 is simply WAY TOO MUCH! Draft a RT in the first to solidify the O line for many years to come. Then bring in Matt Flynn! Why do you consistently overlook this option when it seems the best move the franchise can make? Flynn has spent time learning the game and is ready to take the reigns. Yes he is a risk as well, but much less than the other 2 options you talk about over and over.

In my opinion go for RG3 get the franchise QB we have been looking for since the days of Marino.This Franchise has failed yr. after yr. to get that Starting QB from A.J to Henne.I'm done watching other Franchises getting their guy,you go down the list and most of the teams got their guy for the exception of a few.

demand or not ireland is a retarded rock so anybody can con him into bidding against ghost teams

cantral you are not done watching other teams get their franchise guy, u will watch the draft and see the colts get their next one with the first pick

Just to put a bow on my post, with all due respect to Shanahan, the person who BEST knows what Matt Flynn has to offer is Philbin.


Posted by: DC Dolfan | February 08, 2012 at 08:25 AM

As I read your post Armando I picture a carnival worker throwing pitches to the gullible hick town folks.

The old bait and switch if you will.

Yes sir, step right up folks. Get your Eli's right here. Super Bowl wins guaranteed.

Don't even worry your purty little Heads with any thought of Jamarcus Russell, Akili Smith or Andre Ware. This here Kid is a WEINER!

Just grab those 1st round picks and step right up.......................

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