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The type of QB Mike Sherman looks for

General Manager Jeff Ireland knows the quarterback search this offseason is the thing. He knows it's important. And he's eyebrows deep in working the problem.

He's so fired up about the issue, he's told coach Joe Philbin and his assistants and scouts not to breathe a word about Miami's plans, although everyone knows owner Stephen Ross has already identified Peyton Manning as his target if/when he becomes available.

But outside of names, what are the Dolphins looking for to drive their incoming West Coast offense?

"You like to have a guy that will let the system work for him instead of [him working for the system] -- go through his progressions," offensive coordinator Mike Sherman said this week.

Believe it or not, the first thing Sherman looks at when searching for a successful quarterback is not the arm. It's the feet.

"I like to start with feet," he said. "I want to have a guy that has good feet. If you have good feet, you have balance at the top of your route. You're in good throwing position. I always start from the feet up on quarterbacks because we're going to do a fair amount under center as well as in the shotgun on quarterbacks.

"The timing and the rhythm of the play is so important. In the West Coast offense, tempo and rhythm is very important -- one, two, three. One, two, three. We time the drops. With [Brett] Favre for six years we timed his drops to see where he is in his time from point A to point B."

OK so feet is a big deal. What else?

"Other things in the West Coast offense is you like ot have a quarterback who is able to make a good decision, have a quick release, get the ball out as he goes through his progression."

So if you're judging the QBs available in free agency, the draft and through trade, judge the things Sherman is judging.

 

 

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Still think VY would look good running a west coast in Miami. Much better deep ball than Flynn or anyone else in the league for that matter.

My new partner Tony Mototola and wife Thalia will sell Peyton one there Palm Beach Homes near the rest of my Celebrity ownership. We will move the team to West Palm and rule.

Go all out and trade up for Justin Blackmon.. period.

We don't need RGIII and we aren't going to get him if we even could. THE SCOUT Ireland wont pick a QB in this draft because he believes in VALUE picks.

Justin Blackmon will be a HUGE PLAY MAKER immediately for us not a QB who needs to sit on the bench unless it's Luck.

Now.. As I been saying for over 3 months now... Andrew Luck as Colt IS NOT A LOCK. And for those who keep saying that Luck and the Colts is a lock... Well, that's fine as you have your point as I have mine and time will tell. The Colts owner is NOT impressing Andrew Luck and there just may be retaliation such as Luck not wanting to play in Indy.

I mean... for starters.. exactly what does Luck have to play with??? The team is being torn down and ripped apart. Coaching and management changes and they have a Drunk owner won pukes on demand anything against Patten if he believes it works in Irsay's favor.

You just may see a trade. The Colts opt to trade the #1 pick for say a few other 1st round picks and also snatch up RGIII and Blackmon while at it.

The Rams may also opt for Blackmon as Bradford would love having that option. So IMO Luck is not a lock. The Fins just may be able to with a miracle get Luck but I'm NOT losing any sleep over that happening. More realistically we should be in play for Blackmon.

If we cant walk away with Blackmon then really.. what other PLAY MAKER with Justin's caliber is out there? Slim pickings if you ask me.

Just saying... Don't go out and buy any wedding gifts for the marriage between Luck and the Colts.

Just say in.

Still think VY would look good running a west coast in Miami. Much better deep ball than Flynn or anyone else in the league for that matter.

Posted by: C. Brock | February 19, 2012 at 03:15 PM

VY?

VY???

As in Vince "psycho head case" Young?

A better deep ball that anybody???????

Awww I get it you're just kidding.

You actually had me going there for a second.

Nobody is that stupid.

Peyton says to sign Reggie Wayne and Edge James to live in Palm Beach. Archie Manning, Dan Pastrami and Bobbi Brown with Whitney money want in as well.

Brock,

Your right, Taylor Shhhhh! We sign VY to team with Marshall until Manning gets better in Palm Beach home eating his shrimps and escargot.

Just to reiterate on the Colts and Andrew Luck.

This off season I haven't seen a more hostile environment with an attitude such as the Colts GM and HC and his posse who are all a chip off the Drunk Irsay block.

The "Lead by example" with Drunk Irsay puking out against Patten Manning all day and night and his NEW staff, GM are all following suit is deploriable.

I see a NEW Raiders team being born right in Indy and I do NOT believe that Andrew Luck wants any part of that. Time will tell on that.

Luck comes from a great football family with banks full of loot. It's going to be negotiated by Andrews Dad who is going to work the best deal as Andrew has an extreme amount of leverage.

Tannehill is a raw rookie, but has some skill with the WC. Just needs reps and get used to the faster pace of the NFL.

Posted by: Tracy474 | February 19, 2012 at 03:08 PM

Tannehill never got used to the speed of college football. In 4 years only started 7 games. Blew chunks and got Sherman fired.

You want to bring him here with Sherman? Why, so he can never earn the starter job and get Sherman fired again?

Are people so desperate they'll just throw any name out there?

TANNEHILL COULDN'T BE A STARTER IN 4 YEARS OF COLLEGE BALL.

Hello? What part of that don't you people get?

If we draft someone as terrible as Tannehill we might as well cut Moore and Henne. Forget Manning or Flynn, we could resign Pat White to compete with Tannehill.

JESUS FREAKING CHRIST PEOPLE.

One more thing:

Let's just look at size and QB ratings for a second---

Peyton Manning-(Colts)- 6'5"- 230 lbs.- QB rating 91.9
Matt Flynn-(Green Bay)-6'2"- 225 lbs.- QB rating 124.8
Robert Griffin III- 6'2"- 220 lbs.- College rating 189.5
Ryan Tannehill- 6'4"- 219 lbs.- College rating 133.2
Brandon Weeded- 6'4"-218 lbs.- College rating 155.42

Interesting, huh?

agree on that tannehill sucks.

Peyton says to sign Reggie Wayne and Edge James to live in Palm Beach. Archie Manning, Dan Pastrami and Bobbi Brown with Whitney money want in as well.

Posted by: Sleven Rass Owner | February 19, 2012 at 03:21 PM

Dear Sleazy Azzz Owner

I suppose you want Phil Fulmer as a special QB coach too huh?

By the way, how's life at the funny farm these days?

Out To Lunch,

I totally concur with you on that kid. dolphin fans are desperate for anything that they think will someday pan out. I believe we all have been through enough of the projects.

We are STILL looking for Marinos replacement and it's not going to happen this season. The dolphins sealed that with the meaningless wins as they were almost a sure bet for Luck but blew that. The team only has the FA to acquire another QB this off season. Other then that at best we can walk away with Blackmon if they have the nuts to make an aggressive move for him.

I would if anything else be very happy with knowing we got a Play maker in Blackmon vs another project O line or LB or D line that will be over paid and traded away.

Who will be the Dolphins starting qb in 2012? Take the poll @www.professorlousnfldraftblog.wordpress.com

dont need blackmon, wrs dime a dozen

If you look at some tape on Tannehill, you'll notice that his receivers had butterfingers a lot.

TRADE UP FOR LUCK....or....CONTINUE TO STINK

Based on the buzz around the league, the Seahawks could be the early frontrunner for Peyton Manning, assuming he is released," says Pompei. "Pete Carroll needs a quarterback and is believed to have a strong interest in at least exploring Manning.

"The Seahawks could offer Manning an attractive scenario. They have a young team with some fine skill players to put around him. They play in one of the league’s loudest stadiums. Manning wouldn’t be subject to the same kind of scrutiny in Seattle that he would in a lot of other markets. The Seahawks also could have a better feel for Manning’s medical situation than some teams. One of their team physicians, Stan Herring, who also is one of the country’s preeminent specialists for spine injuries. Herring is a member of the NFL’s Head, Neck and Spine Committee."

. lets hope this is true and not make the mistake of signing manning

And, if Tannehill sucks so bad, then why is he rated as one of the top 5 QBs in the Draft?

Professor Lou,

If Philbin when the time is right says that Flynn is the QB of our future i would say take him if we can.

Philbin at this juncture can not discuss or talk about Flynn because it would be "tampering".

FINS STINK

Please tell us at what price Luck would be available?

Thanks.

tracy after luck and griffin there isnt much else.


dont need blackmon, wrs dime a dozen

Posted by: dusty bottoms | February 19, 2012 at 03:40 PM

DB,

Your not the real DB as the real DB would not call a potential #2 pick in the first round a dime a dozen WR.


tracy after luck and griffin there isnt much else.

Posted by: dusty bottoms | February 19, 2012 at 03:46 PM

Now THAT's the real DB.. I concur db. lol

wrs are a dime a dozen ,sorry man. how many top ten wrs lately have been busts. blackmon sure looks alot like crabtree who everyone thought was jerry rice. blackmon im guessing will be good, but jordy nelsons are found many times later in the draft. how bout a pass rusher, or stud tackle from iowa. or what i say ,trade up for luck or griffin if possible

agree on that tannehill sucks.

Posted by: dusty bottoms | February 19, 2012 at 03:35 PM

Mocks have Tannehill as the consensus number three QB behind Luck and RGIII.

Please tell us why they are wrong and you are right.

Dusty, after Luck theres a huge dropoff.

If you look at some tape on Tannehill, you'll notice that his receivers had butterfingers a lot.

Posted by: Tracy474 | February 19, 2012 at 03:41 PM

All 4 seasons at Texas A&M?

That excuse doesn't work for Henne, it sure ain't working for Tannehill.

Sherman gave the kid a chance to compete for a job right out of high school. He lost the QB competition 4 years straight. If he couldn't convince Sherman to start him at Texas, what do you suppose happens here?

I'll make a prediction. If Ireland drafts Tannehill, Sherman resigns on the spot. I wouldn't blame him either.

I would trade the farm and house and Owner with Ireland for Andrew Luck but we need play makers and i see a huge one in Blackmon.

Our next 3 1st rders should get Luck. Well worth it.

minds i just told u, after the first 2 there is nobody else worth a damn, read

Dear Owner

I suppose you want Phil Fulmer as a special QB coach too huh?

By the way, how's life at the funny farm these days?

Posted by: Where do | February 19, 2012 at 03:35 PM


Phil Fulmer doesn't have star power and we need it ! I was thinking William the refrigerator Perry for Q.B. Coach.

Life at Neverland Farm is great since the stink of Micheal Jackson left, just ask your daughter it's a hoot !

fins, colts would laugh at 3 first round picks. irsay isnt dealing that pick for anything. luck wanted to throw at combine and colts told him not to. its 1900 percent colts draft and start him. 3 first rounders could get u griffin though

DB,

and your point is well taken on WR's. It's all a crap shoot but we really don't have much else to do but take what is closest to making us better. i see Blackmon as doing such. Shore up the O line and D also and address the QB in FA if possible.

And, if Tannehill sucks so bad, then why is he rated as one of the top 5 QBs in the Draft?

Posted by: Tracy474 | February 19, 2012 at 03:43 PM

Ryan Leaf was ranked the top QB the year he came out.

Rejected. Try again.

I think I'll go with Sherman's ranking of Tannehill: Complete Garbage.

Dusty, agreed! But, that may be the best QB available when we pick in the 2nd round (which has not been very kind to us). That's why I'd like to go Flynn in FA, but still take a young gun in the draft. Weeded may also be a possibility. I still think we use our #1 pick on either a playmaker; defensive secondary, TE, or best available O-lineman. Then, take a QB in the 2nd to sit and learn. Flynn and Moore battle it out in Training Camp for the starter spot. The other becomes the back-up. And, the youngster takes the 3rd spot.

minds i just told u, after the first 2 there is nobody else worth a damn, read

Posted by: dusty bottoms | February 19, 2012 at 03:52 PM

EXPLAIN WHY THIS STATEMENT OF YOURS IS TRUE AND NOT JUST SOME SPECULATIVE GARBAGE.

tracy if we sign flynn and he has to "battle it out" with garbage moore then we are screwed

I wouldnt use any 1st rd pick on RG . He's got bust written all over him. Another Pat White.

kiper griffin isnt anything like pat white

Professor Lou,
If Philbin when the time is right says that Flynn is the QB of our future i would say take him if we can.
Philbin at this juncture can not discuss or talk about Flynn because it would be "tampering".

Posted by: NY "G" | February 19, 2012 at 03:44 PM

Just so you know you can also leave comments after you vote.

Life at Neverland Farm is great since the stink of Micheal Jackson left, just ask your daughter it's a hoot !

Posted by: Sleven Rass Owner | February 19, 2012 at 03:53 PM

Sleazy Azzz
Okay, after I finish banging your mother's backside.
She HOOTS when getting drilled.

kiper griffin isnt anything like pat white

Posted by: dusty bottoms | February 19, 2012 at 03:59 PM

EXPLAIN WHY THIS STATEMENT OF YOURS IS TRUE AND NOT JUST SOME SPECULATIVE GARBAGE.


I also doubt that our new head coach is going to sign off on moving up in the draft unless he can really get a shot at Luck or RGIII. He knows he needs a QB, so he'll hedge his bets. He's familiar with Flynn and his OC is familiar with Tannehill. Coaches tend to go with what they know. Or, has everyone forgotten Sparano's obsession with ex-Dallas players?

I can only speak for myself but I am freaking SICK of all the projects at QB.

I don't want another Project in Tannhill to sit on the bench. I fully understand that we need to address the QB position but I don't see it in this draft. perhaps, just perhaps we can trade away for some picks and hope to make a move in for Matt Barkley next year and that all of course depends on how our season goes and who is chosen to be the starting QB this coming season.

tracy ross is wanting manning badly, so lets hope manning doesnt want to come here first.


Just so you know you can also leave comments after you vote.

Posted by: Professor Lou | February 19, 2012 at 03:59 PM

Thanks... Will do Professor Lou.

RG would make a good running back, but QB? Not so much.

Actually, I'm surprised that the "Chad Henne is Our Man" crowd hasn't lobbied for his return. Where did they all go? Where's the love?

rg a rb, hilarious

EXPLAIN WHY THIS STATEMENT OF YOURS IS TRUE AND NOT JUST SOME SPECULATIVE GARBAGE.

Posted by: Inquiring Minds | February 19, 2012 at 03:56 PM

All your mock drafts, consensus and rankings are nothing but PURE speculative garbage.

Leaf, Erickson, Ware, Akili Smith, George, etc, etc.

If you want to discuss specifics on how Tannehill should really be ranked, no problem.

In 4 years of competeing for a starting job in college, he couldn't beat out any of the competition. He didn't even make back up until his senior season.

The guys that he couldn't beat out, the guys that kept THIRD on the depth chart, those guys weren't even drafted. They sucked and Tannehill couldn't even get off of the third string.

The fact that Tannehill is ranked as the 3rd QB this year speaks more to how weak this class is as opposed to good he really isn't.

Landry, Barkley and the other kid would have easily bumped back to arounf 8 to 10 range had they not opted to stay. Weeden as well were in not for his age and should anyways. In my worthless opinion, Cousins is better too.

You call it speculative garbage all you want. I gave you some very viable reasons for how I rank Tannehill.

Please don't speak for dusty bottoms.

Ok, did you notice that Tannehill played wide receiver before becoming a QB? Or, did that fact escape you? Just saying...

Based on the buzz around the league, the Seahawks could be the early frontrunner for Peyton Manning, assuming he is released," says Pompei. "Pete Carroll needs a quarterback and is believed to have a strong interest in at least exploring Manning.

dusty bottoms | February 19, 2012 at 03:43 PM

dusty,

You make good points in the post except for one BIG ?? and that is whether Manning wants to go play on the other end of the Country. The Pacific Northwest is another 4 Hour flight on top of Cali or 1,300 miles and 2 day drive near Vancouver. It's a small market team which would embrace him but not much better than the teams close to home with equal or better talent.

He spends his off-seasons in New Orleans were he's from. In the general area he has Houston and Tennessee which would appeal if just to stick it to Irsay and even Miami at a 14 Hour drive down I-75 has to be more appealing than that particular market. The Hawks aren't any better off than Miami either, I don't see him packing up for what alot of players have called "The NFL Siberia"

All your mock drafts, consensus and rankings are nothing but PURE speculative garbage.


Why are your appraisals NOT speculation when all others are?

Posted by: Out To Lunch | February 19, 2012 at 04:08 PM

There are some on here that are NOT Dolphin fans but pretend through their postings that they are. They most likely are Jet, Pat and Bill fans.

Some of the postings about prospect QB's are ridiculous and a comparison would be if I were on the Pats blog site calling for them to trade Brady while he's got value for Luck and a few more picks.

fin4life we better hope he likes a loud packed stadium and not ours. our franchise will be offcially dead if we make the mistake of signing career over manning

Out to Lunch = dusty bottoms

Sleazy Azzz
Okay, after I finish banging your mother's backside.
She HOOTS when getting drilled.

Posted by: Where do these idiots come from? | February 19, 2012 at 04:00 PM

Have you ever seen me on TV ? After getting over the fact I got a face only a Mother could love, I remind you I'm 68. When I was born my Mother rest Her soul was 24, making Her all of 92 and dead, who's the Sleezy sicko necrophiliac ?!

Ok, did you notice that Tannehill played wide receiver before becoming a QB? Or, did that fact escape you? Just saying...

Posted by: Tracy474 | February 19, 2012 at 04:11 PM

No, this is a common misconception people have about Tannehill.

He played QB in high school. He was recruited into the college ranks as a QB prospect.

Being 3rd on the depth chart and such an outstanding athlete, the Coaches started using him at receiver. Very limited at first. Then showed steady improvement, something he didn't show as a QB at Texas A&M.

Tannehill was QB FIRST. Couldn't rise the depth chart. THEN converted to Receiver.

There are some on here that are NOT Dolphin fans but pretend through their postings that they are. They most likely are Jet, Pat and Bill fans.

Posted by: NY "G" | February 19, 2012 at 04:16 PM
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You could be right. Judging from attendance there are no Dolfan fans left! LOL


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