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Dolphins at Osweiler pro day PLUS private workout coming

I'm not a big Brock Osweiler proponent. He reminds me of Dan McGwire who was a good college quarterback but never made it in the pros. I guess you can understand the comparison because Osweiler, at 6-foot-7 and 242 pounds, is built like McGwire.

The Dolphins, however, are doing their homework and that work includes the former Arizona State quarterback. Nothing against the kid, but I don't like his mechanics, I don't necessarily love his mobility and his accuracy is inconsistent.

Oswelier has been addressing his mechanics since the end of the college season.

"It's more over-the-top now," Osweiler said of a revamped throwing motion. "I was kind of always dragging my elbow when I was playing here at ASU, and we really wanted to utilize my full 6-7 frame, or whatever it is, and make sure the arm and delivery is over-the-top."

Osweiler, who seems like a third-round talent to me, will go on multiple private workouts for several NFL franchises including the Dolphins.

"I'm meeting with the Chiefs and the Broncos next week and I'm taking trips to Miami and Buffalo and a few other places," he said.

During his workout today -- attended by Dolphins brass, including general manager Jeff Ireland -- Osweiler competed 66 of 75 passes with seven overthrows and one dropped pass, according to ASUDevils.com.

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Row, I was talking about Tanne actually.

If we draft this turd, I WILL F^CKING LOSE IT!

A 3rd rd QB isn't going to get us anywhere. I've been hoping for Tannehill for months now, and now there's talk he may go as high as #3.

If he's still around at #8 and Ireland passes on him...

Vikings

I'm talking about unchecked aggression here dude.

I hope Omar Kelly's mock is right. He doesn't have Whitney Mercilus going in the 1st rd. Be nice if he were there for us to grab in the 2nd.

He had Tannehill to Miami at 8 btw.

Jeff Row,


It was Ireland that drafted Pat White DUMBO!

Misi is another Irescum bust.

Squandering 3 picks on a backup RB was RETARDED!

Scotty, you are retarded and know nothing, maybe less.

Trade Misi for a Whopper Jr.!!

Kris,

I don't agree. This team has been ignoring the most important position on the team for way too long. I don't need to preach to you that there's been no first round QB drafted in almost 30 years. As you've professed over and over, first round QBs win Championships. To me, you draft this guy and if you're wrong you do it over again in 3-4 years. It's not unrealistic. QBs can leave after 5 years now through FA, so what's wrong with drafting them every 3-4 years. You keep doing it until you get it right and right now, hopefully he's the guy.

Drafting a 3rd round project in the first round won't make them a first round QB. It doesn't work that way.

I get what you are saying Craig, but drafting them in the 1st rd doesn't make them 1st rd talent. Though sometimes, they don't have to be.

thavafin,

I don't think it matters where they have Tannehill ranked. I think you take a chance on this guy and hope that Sherman can work with him and develop him. If you believe in this guy, you take him. I'm not a fan of letting a guy slide because you don't think he should be drafted at 8. How is this worse than Ginn or Jason Allen? Sometimes they work out and sometimes they don't but one things for sure if you NEVER take them it will NEVER work out.

This team hasnt been ignoring obtaining a qb post Marino era. They seemed to place higher value on other positions and and "over valued the qb they already had in house. This always happened when in great draft position to obtain a "franchise calibre qb".

By this statement I mean every time we drafted anywhere within the the top 10, top 5. Every time we drafted in this range, we highly over valued the qb we already had in house.

When we werent in the top 10 draft position. There really wasnt a qb to match the value of the draft position we were in, were either to far back or the top couple of qb's available werent close enough to a sure thing to trade the house for. Or we had a pressing need where we had to draft certain other need position being located in the mid to late 1st rd.

You gotta also remember, over the past 15yrs, qb hasnt been our only "critical need" area. We just failed to address the qb position every single time we drafted top 10 up to the 1st overall draft position.

CraigM,

You sometimes say the crazy things you say because "your job" isnt on the line for making a risky failed decision. Dude, some of the things you post, you wouldnt be a nfl gm for no longer than 1 year.

YG,

You're right. I'm talking from a fan's standpoint. I'm not the GM. I couldn't care less about losing the job because it's not's my job. But at some point this team has to be prepared to go out on a limb and get that QB. The top guys aren't there when we draft and the second and third round guys aren't getting it done. Time for a new strategy.

Thank You SILVA!

I've been waiting for someone to come to this realization. Some here seem to think drafting a 3rd round talent in the first, will somehow magically transform them into a legitimate player.

I'm amazed at peoples ignorance over Tannehill. I don't care how desperate they are, closing your eyes and clicking your heels together will not bump up Tannehill's talent level.

What's even more mystifying, toe to toe, it's a toss up between Tannehill and Cousins. Cousins, in all reality, the better of the two.

Tannehill is a mid 2nd rounder AT BEST. Having said that, even in the 40 to 50th pick range, he's a REACH! There's just no way around it. I don't care what the Browns do in trying to fool Ireland, their not using a 1st and probably not a 2nd rounder on Tannehill NO MATTER WHAT! It ain't happening. It's a smoke screen perpetrated by GM's and talking heads.

Besaides, Cousins is the more complete player. He has the more complete skillset and experience levels. Cousin's is a mid to late 2nd rounder at best and Tannehill is a notch lower.

Ireland's might be the only one stupid enough to take Tannehill in the first round. You watch, if Ireland passes on Tannehill, watch him take a bigger slide than Ryan Mallet!


The top guys aren't there when we draft and the second and third round guys aren't getting it done. Time for a new strategy.

Posted by: Craig M | March 30, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Craig, I agree with needing a new strategy.

It's just Tannehill shouldn't be any part of it. If it weren't for Barkley and Landry staying put, Tannehill wouldn't even be in ANYONES 1st round conversations.

We need a new strategy for sure. Just lets not base it on desperation and an extremely weak "leftovers" class of Quarterback.

Odin,

I don't get where you're coming up with Tannehill as a second or third round talent. Every mock I've seen has him going in the first and most are saying top ten. The only knock on this guy is that he doesn't have a big enough body of work to have a complete book on him. When guys like Mayock, Casserly and Brandt says he's a top ten talent, I'll take that over you saying he's a second or third round talent, with all due respect to you. This guy is a very good athlete with a good arm. He moves well. What he's missing right now is the ability to read defences and a few other things. He's not a finished product at this point but his talent is PLENTY good enough to take a chance on. If you're expecting him to come in and dominate, it's not going to happen. But I think it's time to get a guy like this on the roster and start developing him. We've never done that.

CraigM,

My strategy would be not to overdraft Tannehill out of panic. Him not panning out sets this franchise back even further. The deal is to solve an issue, not compound it.

Rather than take a guy many scouts admit clearly isnt ready and it could be at least 2 seasons before he is. As a whole this team is better off going with bpa at a position of need. At least there's less risk of a total whiff.

We have a extra 3rd rd pick from the Marshall trade. If we "wanna risk" then risk one of our 3rd rd picks for a player that needs to be groomed for 2 or more seasons, not the 1st rd pick.

If Garrard or Moore isnt the answer. Its guarranteed we will probably be picking top 10 or very close to it, for at least the next 2 seasons. Meaning we will still be in decent position to find "THE RIGHT" qb for this long suffering franchise.

Odin,

We see it differently. That's fine. I'm not here to change your opinion on him. I'm saying it's time to get some top end talent at the position and see if we can develop him for done the road. If I'm wrong and their wrong, I couldn't really care because at least they are trying. What they're doing hasn't been working. Philbin and Sherman and supposed to be these offensive masterminds....show me! Tired of the 'safe' OL or DL. They are making any different to what we're doing...time to take a chance.

Odinseye,

I dont believe Cleveland's throwing up a smoke screen neither. After carefully studying Tannehill they've come to a tangible conclussion there's nothing in Tannehill's draft jacket to conclussively proves he' an upgrade to thier current starter.

YG,

We disagree. I'm not asking Tannehill to come in and play right away, I'm looking at him 2-3 years down the road. That's how the top teams do it. We've tried putting the guys in too early and it doesn't work. I don't want a third round guy....we've tried that and they aren't good enough. The consensus is that this guy is a first round talent. So draft him. Who cares if he goes at 8 or 28. Nobody remembers that. Get a top talent and watch him grow. If it fails, let's do it again in 3-4 years. These lower tier guys like cousins etc....aren't good enough.

YG,

I don't believe that's the case with Cleveland at all. They have a ton of needs, including running back. Have you looked at their roster? They have nobody to run the ball. They are where we were with Henne last year with McCoy. They have to fully find out what they have with him before moving on and they can only do that by giving him more help. They will very likely take Richardson (a guy who helps right away) and then go WR or OL at 22. If McCoy shows he doesn't have it this year then they will likely go QB in next year's draft.

CraigM,

Tannehill's now being viewed as 1st rd talent because of two things:

1. Process of elimination. Barkley and Landry Jones didnt declare.

2. Couple teams "deperate for a qb". Miami being chief among them.

3. Brandon Weedon's 28yrs old.

Remove all of these things and Tannehill easily slips to 3rd. So you see, drafting Tannehill 1st rd out of desperation, we're truly getting a 3rd qb anyway if things were different.

3 Things

Weedon would easily be a legit top 10 qb if he were Tannehill's age. It would be the no brainer pick for right now.

Tannehill's rise to 1st rd is all "fluff" and very little base. The goal is to pick the right qb. Mid 2nd to early 3rd is where Tannehill rightfully desrves to be drafted.

Too bad Tannehill didnt have the elibility left to stay at least 1 more year in college. Only 1yr as a starter, same as Sanchez, but Sanchez had a far better 1yr as a starter. Now he's still struggling in the pros.

So what do you guys expect to happen with Tannehill when he wasnt even as good as Sanchez in his single season as a starter? Geesh guys, think..think.. The evidence is right in front of you staring you right in the face. All you have to do is stop staring up your own a..ses!

Sounds like he is an acorn. Let's get him.

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Craig M, the point is, you don't draft a project player that needs 2 or 3 years to develop with the number 8 pick. It just doesn't work that way. Nobody will do it. In the top ten you are drafting starters or at least players that will contribute significantly.

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he's a project w/ potential 3rd rd pick

Wtf people, tannehill had me worried but this dude no damn way ......remember WEEDEN IS IN THE DRAFT, THE QB WITH THE BEST STATS OuTTA THIS WHOLE DRAfT.....PLEASE USE YOUR HEADS...HE'S 28 BUT WHO CARES ...WE WENT AFTER PEYTON AT 38. ...BE FORREAL ....I HATE NOT BEING ABLE TO PICK...I WOULD TRADE MY 1st PICK TO PITTS. GRAB. UP WALLACE...IN THE 2nd I WOULD GET WEEDEN ......OR MOVE UP IN THE DRAFT W/ THE BROWNS AND GET BLACKMON, FOR A 3rd RD, IN THE 2nd ONCe AGAIN GRAB WEEDEN, THAN GET A RT. ANOTHER W.R AND SAFETY ETC. LIKE HELLO ANYONE THERE

U got me nervous about this damn qb situation.....moore will be traded after gerrard beats him and the rookie will be behind him our first rd needs to go to wide receiver ..... fact ..... and why not give up the 1st rd for wallace from the steelers, but screw it, trade with the browns and grab blackmon, none of these qbs are worth a 1st rd pick.....can we do 1 thing right ....in the 2nd I would grab a rt...rg ..3rd rd grab your qb ....weeden might be there but I would not risk it and I would take that man in the 2nd ....he's so good than 3rd I would take a rt rg, than 4th rg rt or de / old ....work on the defence pass rushing and the offence line 3 pick 4th pick 6 th n 7th...1st n 2nd weeden n blackmon ...let them shine in mia ....we wouldn't need a sun if they were doing what they did in college in mia.

I'm gonna admit I was wrong, I was running my mouth without really analyzing about Tannehill except for the occasional highlight here and there and youtube. Please do yourselves a favor and read this guy's blog about Tannehill, I'm still not 100% convinced he is a #8 overall pick but he has some strong arguments about him at least being a 1st round pick. Dunno about you but I can live with that.

If Philbin was part of the team that was able to convert a 7th round guy with a weak arm like Flynn, remember him the one 70% of you were crying Ireland to deal for, I think we stand a good chance he can do the same with Tannehill or perhaps even better. His analysis in fact points that Tannehill is not the so called project many pundits out there like to label him but rather a more polished player already and the fact he's played under Sherman's system is a major plus.

Besides, who do you pick at 8th? There's really no one unless either Richardson or Claiborne fall to us, no other player is worth that selection, and if we find no trading partner, which I doubt we will anyway if we can't find value ourselves, then taking Tannehill is the right choice. One thing I have clear: NO Osweiler, I think the Phins must know this and are bluffing Cleveland. Cleveland would be really foolish to pass on Richardson, they have zero running game unlike us, and if they pick Tanny then I think we should be ok getting Richardson instead. Bush on a contract year will play really hard and we could trade him for picks of value in 2013 and get much needed relief in cap space and we get to keep the better back.

http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2012/03/12/why-ryan-tannehill-is-a-first-round-prospect/

Ireland will prove he is not an idiot. He won't trade up for Tanne and he won't pick him at 8. Tanne is rising on the media mocks only because some of the better QB's decided to play another year in college, not because he is so great. GM's are not stupid. You don't pick a player that needs to be groomed at 8. At 8 you pick someone who can make an impact today, not 2 or 3 years from now.

I claim to be no expert. I've watched some youtube of Tanne and I am just not impressed. He's a guy that will win some games with his athleticism but isn't going to take any team anywhere. I like Moore and Garrard better. Wait until next year or draft Weeden.

I see the debate over Tannehill rages ever onward with some favoring Osweiller.

Craig I see/hear your logic but I believe like others you are not factoring in "Opportunity Costs" in saying just grab Tannehill in 1st round. With Philbin and crew to develop him for 3-4 years and do it again if it fails. The theory you are using is just keep drafting a QB early and eventually one will hit.

The thing is with 1-3 years of developing the QB you choose it means you would be missing out on drafting guys like Barclay. To have invested in a 1st round guy means the team has to take the time to develop him or else it is a wasted pick. The Fins were proven to be in error by letting Henne "develop" for 4 years...no he was sent packing with no compensation.

Whatever QB the Fins choose, in ANY round, needs to be a legitimate star down the road. The earlier they draft him, the more insane fan pressure to play right away.

They have Gerard and Moore in the fold. I say take a flyer on a late round QB like Case Keenum and see if real camps and OTAs break one from the pack. I know the media and many fans are down on Moore but, he played well down the stretch and did show signs of getting better. Moore hasn't really had that many starts to be written off. If he comes through the intense battles of Camp and OTAs I feel he will be the starter.

With, the #8 choice they need to collect an impact ball player...I say it will be DE Coples or maybe a trade back for WR Floyd.

Tannehill is QB with some talent but has not been doing it long and threw a bunch of picks...buyer beware early as he will haunt not because of his skill but, because of the "opportunity cost" of missing drafting guys like Coples and Floyd (You can put your favorite OFF and DEF player here).

Cheers,

Silva,
Tanny is not a top ten choice, and it goes without saying me do not need to trade up for him, but tell me who do you pick at 8th if no one wants to trade up for that spot?
Coples? We kinda just got burned by a character riddled dude (Marshall), no thanks. Floyd? He or any WR (even Blackmon, who will not be there anyway) can also be considered reaches.
Ingram? That little engine that could story that will not happen in the NFL, he will get manhandled badly at the next level.
I like Kuechly but he will too be a reach there.

Tannehill IMO is a late 1st round selection, problem is that we will not be there for us, so at 8th yes he's a reach but not a huge one and fills a need. At some point I'd like to see us having the balls to dare and do something different, we have had way too many drafts of average players. Besides who are the QBs next year? Barkley? Dunno about you but I'm not sold on him, and does that mean we have to suck so badly to have the worst record in the NFL to get him?

I like Weeden but Tannehill is better and of course younger and that is important. Drew Henson by all accounts had the better arm compared to Brady and he too was ruined by entering the frame too late after playing baseball, sound familiar?

1st- Tannehill
2nd- Fleener (trade up early 2nd) or Ronnie Lewis, LB Oklahoma
3rd- Streeter, The U
3rd- Derek Wolfe, DE/DT Cincy 4-3, 3-4 guy
4th- A.J. Jenkins, WR, Illinois or V. Burfict, LB, ASU
5th- Jamell Fleming, CB/S Oklahoma
6th- Desmond Wynn, OG, Rutgers
7th- Cordarro Law, LB, Southern Miss

Players to watch if selections taken by other teams:
Kelechi Osemele, OG/T, Iowa State; Alshon Jefferey, WR, SC; Will Blackwell, OT/G, LSU; Marvin McNutt, WR, Iowa; Brandon Brooks, OG/T Miami Ohio; Sean Richardson, S, Vandy; Joe Long, OT, Wayne St; Sean Cattouse, S, Cal; Lonnie Edwards, OG, Texas Tech, Adrien Robinson, TE, Cincy

Kind of like Fisher passing on RGIII because the Rams already invested HUGE in Bradford. Time will tell if that was a good move or not.

Cheers,

As for Weeden, drafting a guy that might not be taking starter snaps before 30 years of age screams 4th round on.

Teams panic and QBs get artificially raised up so he may go hire but I would hold my ground on his round value if I'm a GM. That is one very old rookie!

Cheers,

TigerSam,

Coples is a "character riddled" draft choice? He has been accused of taking downs off as a Senior so as not to get hurt. That is not exactly "character riddled". They said the same thing about Super Mario Williams and now he is the richest DE in the league! JJ once drafted DT Darryl Gardener with the same knock in the first round...had a decent career.

If Floyd (my first choice as best WR in the draft) or Blackmon were chosen at #8 the talking heads would not downplay the move too much as the potential for greatness is in both of their DNAs. Floyd is the "character" guy which may push him down some.

I do REALLY like your choice of Okl LB Ronnell Lewis in the 2nd. Guy is a BEAST and will make a good pro in my eyes as well. Excellent choice!

It's all perspective I guess. Time will tell.

Cheers,

TigerSam,

Some of the "other" guys I wouldn't mind seeing as a Fin...

OG/OT Cordy Glen, OT Mike Adams, RB Doug Martin, RB/WR Chris Rainey, DT Fletcher Cox, S Harrison Smith, RB Lamar Miller, OLB Keenan Robinson, LB Mychal Kendricks, RB/KR Isiah Pead, WR Chris Owusu, WR/KR Joe Adams are a few of the names that would be nice additions to the Fins.

Cheers,

Draft don't fail me, er US now!! LOL

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