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Reports: Redskins trade for rights to RG3

The Washington Redskins had to know they were practically eliminated from the Peyton Manning derby earlier this evening. They'll be OK.

They just completed a blockbuster trade for the No. 2 overall pick in the April draft.

They're now in position to draft Heisman winner Robert Griffin III.

FoxSports.com first and ESPN afterwards reported the Redskins are sending the St. Louis Rams at least two first-round picks plus future considerations for the right to own the No. 2 pick. ESPN is actually saying three first-round selections -- the team's firsts this year, in 2013 and 2014 -- are involved in the exchange as well as this year's No. 2 pick.

The trade cannot become official until the new league year opens March. 13.

So what impact does this have locally?

On national radio with Profootball.com Friday I told Mike Florio the Dolphins weren't going to make a strong enough play for the second overall pick because the asking price was simply too high and the Dolphins 1. didn't wish to use their chips to move that high and 2. didn't want to send that many assets to Jeff FIsher, the man who declined to become their coach earlier this year and picked the Rams instead. The Dolphins, however, did inquire about the possibility of getting into this deal -- to no avail.

Given the price of the trade, the Dolphins weren't able to get in play for RG3.

But this absolutely takes another QB option off the table.

The Dolphins are fully invested in the Peyton Manning chase but the need to succeed there now grows for Miami because options are fading.

If the Dolphins add Manning, they'll consider themselves successful and set for the near future. If they fail to convince Manning to come to South Florida, the only apparent option to addressing the void for a franchise quarterback is free agent Matt Flynn or selecting a lesser-rated quarterback in the draft -- assuming there's conviction that would bring an elite player.

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dusty bottoms you make no sense, flynn cost us nothing but money, and rg3 costs everything we have, we mortgage the farm for the next 3 years, for an nfl unproven quarterback.

and please tell me now ireland blew this with rg3, i can tell you i would have been upset if they mortgaged the future on this guy, I would feel more comfortable doing it for luck then rg3

Ok , so the Redskins get RG3 as they have agreed in principle with the Rams for 3 first round picks and their 2nd as well this year. As much a fan of RG3 that is too much to pay. If our front office would not have fallen asleep -as usual unfortunately- and offered a deal with two 1st rounders (really one would a swap and in our favor) and a package of picks and V. Davis and B. Hartline, the Rams may have considered the offer. Again we fall asleep and it is becoming a habit. The same way we delayed pizza boy's firing and the neverending hire of Philbin (instead of Chud but that's another story) here we are again.

So now it is on, it's all in for Manning or this season and new coaching regime will be a failure even before it started. This got to be Ross' doing, our inept owner who also is taking forever to do a full-court press on Manning. Really at this point I don't care if it's Ross' or Ireland's fault, the bottom line is that we keep getting out hassled by obviously more adept front offices.

Actually now that I really think of it these clowns keep getting out maneuvered by some of the other inept front offices, I mean SF -led by Baalke?? I mean WTF- then the Rams (all time low) and now the Skins.

So instead of having the upper hand with at least a deal in principle with the Rams for Griffin now we got nothing and we just gave Manning's agent plenty of ammo to drive the price up our arses. Way to go idiots. Better get Manning or this will be the worst offseason and season in our history, and this pace and precedent it's not looking good.

My final point here is that whether you preferred either of RG3 or Manning we are seemingly missing the bus again on both. This front office is a disaster.

Craig M.
I don't think Peter King considered when Ditka gave up his entire draft for Rickey Williams. That was the craziest use of draft picks that I've ever seen. And, set them back for years.

this is hardly news, and it really doesn't "take another QB option off the table" for Miami because RG3 was never realistically "on the table", because it would've been nearly impossible to leap over 2 times in the draft--this was never gonna happen--its PM, Flynn or Tannehill, but thats what its always been

I agree Craig and just think if the Redskins have a real bad season. The Rams could have some nice picks next year in the first.

If Manning signs with denver then maybe we can get TEBOW!!!

Talk is Cleveland wouldn't go to three firsts for RGIII. Who knows where they go now? Weedon or Tannehill later maybe? Flynn?

Stupid spellchecker! RICKY not RICKEY!!!

So glad Miami didnt get involved in the trading for RGIII mess. I LOVE the kid, but WOW. I think Dolphins brass knows that if Manning falls through they will be able to sign Flynn. Now, lets go get Peyton!

This is not shanahan 's goings. This obviously Dan Snyder operating the deal.

Craig, if Cleveland thinks for one minute that Miami might take Tannehill they will have to get him at 4. SO if Flynn ends up lets say in Seattle then Tannehill could go 4th to the Browns.

Armando, the Dolphins can still go with Matt Moore the number 12 rated passer in the league. Aaron Rogers said that Matt Flynn should become a NFL top 15 QB.
So who needs Flynn but for a back up.

sheehanje - good point; I have been checking the Broncos web site and blogs; latest update; 6 hours of meetings, NO worko=out; toured entire facility; local TV shows have been interrupted, Manning staying over night in Denver, and a 2nd meeting with Elway tomorrow morning.....

Is anybody really convinced that Flynn is a significant upgrade over Moore?

Tracy474,

I consider three firsts and a second to be a bigger haul than what Ditka gave up for Ricky. Think about it. Yes, Ditka gave up seven picks but I'd rather have the four the Rams got from the 'Skins. Some of those have the potential to be pretty high if the 'Skins struggle.

Craig M...I was OK with your post till you said " Failing all that we're going to have to look at guys like Campbell, Orton or dare I say it Henne."
I ALMOST fell out of my chair in both anguish and astonishment! LOL
Please, CAMPBELL?
Bad enough you mentioned Orton and Henne.
c'mon, man, buck up. Things aren't desperate yet.

We have a new staff, and being that we're not experts, we've got to count on them to find a QB if the Manning express is derailed.

BB - I myself have NOT seen enough Flynn to pick him over Moore, HOWEVER, our new coaches have seen him on a daily basis, so if they like him as 2nd best to Manning...then???

Griffin could be very good (or maybe not.....or maybe he blows out that ACL again) but this is a good deal for the Rams

Texas,

I'm not coinvinced the Browns will take Tannehill at 4. I like the kid....liek him a lot but even four is too high for him. I could TOTALLY see them going after Weedon let's say at 22.

people do u know u can make an offer 4 drew brees and only give up 2 first round picks

Posted by: mlb2007atla | March 09, 2012 at 11:44 PM

so would I, but the really GOOD teams would have drafted any of them other than Pouncy.
Then again, a really good team would ALREADY have a PRO Bowl caliber QB.

lizard.....then I'd be comfortable signing him.....maybe our biggest asset in all of this is that Philbin and Sherman know Flynn and Tannehill as well as anybody

Whoops, meant to say the really good teams WOULDN'T have drafted any of them other than Pouncy.

Craig M.
I see your point. Well, RGIII had better be all that he's advertised. And, he'd better be fast because now it will be a while before they can get him any weapons or O-linemen to block for him. I have the feeling that he's going to be injured a lot! Just saying...

IMAWriter,

Understand that I'm not adovacting those guys as a first option. They are fall backs. I'm also saying we need to draft a kid too. But honestly, I still think Jason Campbell can we a decent QB in this league. He still not that old.

UPDATE - ETS are out of Manning hunt; resigned Sanchez to a 3 year deal

Funny thing is if we don't get Manning or Flynn I can see Fisher putting the screws to us again, potentially trading out of the #6 slot to a team that wants Tannehill. I personally don't think the trade for RG3 was foolish. Would you trade Odrick, Vontae Davis, Pouncey and Pat White for RG3? I would.

smart GM,

Not true. Of all the potential free agents that were franchised Brees has an 'exclusive' tag attached to him. No other team can talk to this guy. He's the only one of the 21 or so that were tagged.

Worst case Miami ends up with Matt Flynn. No one chooses Cleveland over Miami

Ok guys I'm out....cheers.

The mayor of DC gave RG3 the key to the city a week ago. Of course their going to sell house. Its Manning or bust now because Tannehill sucks, Weeden is dumb and Flynn will be in Cleveland. And u dont have to be a 1st rd pick to be an impact player. That is non sense!

So this inept front office -led by Ross make no mistake- is so full of S that they considered not trading with the Rams b/c Fisher signed there? RUFKme? This is a business gentlemen. No one told you to wait for your "rose" just to get shafted.

If anything a more shrewd businessman or front office guy would have used the petty we could have drawn from the Rams to get a deal done. Not saying it would have worked but how can you find out if you do no even try.

By missing the boat on RG3 even if at the end they did not want him we lose leverage b/c just like Washington neither them or us or anyone could have made the trade possible until Tuesday anyway. So now we just gave Manning's agent a huge load of ammo to drive their price up our arses. Unfreakingbelievable.

Dunno about you but I'm just dead tired of these clowns smearing the pride of our franchise and setting new lows. If we miss the boat on Manning wow, I mean wow. WTF were we waiting for to put a full court press on Manning?

BB - I agree regarding trusting that Philbin and Sherman know Flynn and Tannehill. Happy to see Skins and Jets out of Manning hunt.
I hear Jeff Saturday wants to play 1 or 2 years more also...

Good for Washington. I hope boldness like this pays off.

This pretty much also means Flynn will be a Brown.

Rumour is that is where they have been focusing all along. And no way Flynn will consider Miami now with all the Peyton association. He would have to have no pride to go to Miami now.

So where does that leave us?

Peyton or Tannehill at 8 or Weeden in round 2 is my guess.

No way Tannehill is considered QB#3 in the draft will get by Seattle.

Cleveland is signing Flynn and drafting Richardson at #4, maybe Blackmon.

Nobodys taking Weedon 1st rd. He'll be 29yrs old 1 month into the his 1st nfl season. Born October 14, 1983. He isnt really projected as a 1st year starter. So he could possibly be 30yrs old before he takes his first starting nfl snap.

Weedon's comiong into the league when most very good nfl qb's are smack dab right in the middle of thier prime. Any team using a 1st rd pick for Weedon would be considered a very unsound move. Would a team give up a 1st rd pick for Matt Moore? No, but he's far more nfl proven and about the exact same age.

Trunks......might be manning or bust, but don't act like flynn or tannehill (or weeded?) are certain studs--they're getting the hype because thats all thats available, but it doesn't mean they're great options--sucks but thats a fact

TigerSam,

Where are you getting that stuff from? Who said they won't deal with the Rams because of Fisher? Seriously?.....why do people just make stuff up. The price for the second pick was ridiculous....that's why they didn't make the trade...end of story. Cleveland wouldn't make it either and they had a better pick PLUS an extra first this year. Don't make stuff up just to back the FO.

OK, now I'm out.....

Mark.....c'mon...."Flynn would have no pride to go to Miami now"?--geez, we're talking about 7th round/backup Matt Flynn here.....if Miami offers him a boatload of money, he'll sign......he's not in a position like manning where he's proven and can pick his spot--he's looking for his first starting job, and money talks, period.

YG,

After RGIII and Luck, Weddon is considered most ready to start. The Browns need a QB. Why would they not take him at 22. Who cares if they take him at 22 or fourth pick of the second round. What's the difference? 14 picks? Was Locker expected to go 8 last year? Was Ponder expected to go at 12? What's the difference? Teams picks to fill needs.

I think the FO made the right call on this. Im glad we did not trade the farm for RG. And all who are hell bent on Manning, so your willing to sign him when 1) he has been unable to pass a physical 2) possibility Miami will not get him to try out and test his arm..If this is the case, I find it just as crazy as the Redskin trade.

So we miss out on Manning, and have given Moore a vote of "no confidence" and released Henne; sooooooo is Pat White still on the roster?

'Night....

Miami's better off trading thier #1 pick to the team underneath them for that team's 2013 #1 pick.

At least that gives us two #1 picks in 2013 and plenty of ammunition to move up to perhaps take Barkley next year.

We'll either take Ryan Reiff(safe pick) or screw it up on a bust pass rusher this year anyway.

Craig.....I actually would have no problem taking Weeden later in the first round, if we trade back, or up from Rd 2--or take him in Rd 2 if he's there--and lizard.....i know its not a thrilling option, but Orton is a reasonable (but not exciting) option, and Moore is serviceable for the year too

Craig,
Did you read Mando's post? It clearly states that one of the reasons the Phins would not agree to a deal with the Rams was that they did not want to give Fisher -who just stood us up at the altar- too much ammo for the future.

That is fken dumb. Look my beef is that these clowns did not even try, and it is their lack of trying or their clumsy way to go after prized players/coaches that keep us as the laughing stock of the league. I mean we used to be the freaken Miami Dolphins, think about it, Miami, a gorgeous place to live, especially if wealthy like these players/coaches are and it seems we can't get anyone of value here.

That is why I'm pissed. Miami could have offered a package of 2 firsts and a few players the Rams would at least given some consideration. At worst we could have shown the Manning camp that we had alternatives. Now we are in desperation mode again. How is Denver even a serious possibility when they have worse weather and a dinosaur coach who likes to run the ball 80% of the time. To me that speaks volumes of how little Manning -and probably others- think of this organization.

Craig M
I still like the Dolphins chances to get Manning. I see the Chiefs and Texans(if they jump in) biggest obsticle to get Manning. Arizona is too salary cap handcuffed. If we have to turn to Flynn, it may end up being for the best. Flynn has been a winner everywhere he's been. He reminds me of a young Pennington.

Yesterday.....now you're talking--if they miss on manning, i also think they might be best off shooting for barkley (or jones, or whoever) next year--maybe still grab a weeden or someone reasonable in the middle rounds for depth, but i'd probably set my sights on one of the better prospects next year

If Ireland can't land Peyton, I would think that unless Miami did well with whatever version of the Dolphins are put on the field in '12, it would probably be Ireland's last year. Two years in a row of false hopes of upgrading the quarterback position would make Ross look inept. Last year we kept hearing that there would be a signifigant upgrade at qb, there was the failed push for Orton. How do you think Ross is going to feel if he can't get Manning this year? Everyone knows it's Ross that really covets Peyton. So, if we don't get Manning, maybe it clears the way for Joe Philbin to build the team his way, through the draft

CraigM,

Matt Moore is a far better starter right now than Weedon will be next year, if he starts. I guarantee you no one would give even a 32nd pick of the 1st rd for Moore.

Usually a pro qb hits his stride, or prime production years, beginning around year 4-5. Weedon will be 33-34yrs old. So after this he only gives you 2-3yrs of "prime production" before it's time to make the retirement speech.

Any team would be a little foolish to spend a 1st rd pick for that.

According to ESPN, Mel Kiper has Weeden ranked as the #3 QB with Tannehill #4 and Osweiler at #5. Interesting, huh?

I predict that RGIII will be a good if not great NFL QB. He is a physical player, and an Academic All-American. I wish him luck in DC. Wish the Dolphins could have traded for RGIII. Second choice for me is Manning, with Moore learning from that master, like Rodgers learning from Farve. I don't know about Weedon vs Flynn vs Tannehill. I think Reiff would be a good and safe pick.

lizard breath,

You have a great point. After 2-3yrs sitting behind Manning I like Matt Moore far better than any other option available.

But, if Manning doesnt sign with Miami, we could be seriously screwed dude. Although I still like Matt Moore better than any of the 2nd rd qb's available.

Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Dolphins fans so stupid!
How stupid are Dolphins fans?
I sell cheap toys for $1 each.
When customer have on Dolphins gear I charge $5 each.
Why?
Because Dolphins fans so stupid that's why.

Dan Snyder is why the redskins have been .500 for the past decade. Trust me the fans just sit back and pray.

Anyone besides me think Ross/Ireland will find a way to screw up Manning coming here?

I just vhave a strange feeling either Ross or Ireland says something dumb during the Peyton meeting that causes him to choose his "2nd choice" destination.

YG,
Are you delusional?
When was there ever a chance that Peyton would come here?
When did you ever hear a news conference when Ross said "I want Peyton"? Never happened.
Ross only endorsed 1 QB publically his life.
I've been saying this s hit for 3 months why do you not beleive me?

YG,
What screwed up Peyton, or any other Quality FA coming here, is the lack of talent overall.
What's driving the lack of talent is 2nd & 3rd round draft picks leaving here with no compensation to us:

Matt Roth, Channing Crowder, Paul Solai, Kendal Langford, Pat Whie, Pat Turner, Chad Henne

Tiger Sam that's BS. You completely misread that part. Armando was saying it was his opinion that the reason they wouldn't try to trade would be the Fisher thing but then pointed out the Dolphins did try to trade.

Armando was stating his opinion on the radio show. Do you honestly think Ross or Fisher told him they wouldnt trade with Fisher because they are mad at him for spurning them? It was his guess!

Come on you just went off on your own team without thinking. And now some other mental midget will read your post and believe that it's true, then there's two of you and so on.

Come on people, I'm sure you can find plenty of real reasons to hate the front office, no need to make things up.

Manning to Az
RGIII to Washington
Flynn to Clev
Miami w. squadouche!

the Music will stop and miami will be without a chair

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