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Reports: Redskins trade for rights to RG3

The Washington Redskins had to know they were practically eliminated from the Peyton Manning derby earlier this evening. They'll be OK.

They just completed a blockbuster trade for the No. 2 overall pick in the April draft.

They're now in position to draft Heisman winner Robert Griffin III.

FoxSports.com first and ESPN afterwards reported the Redskins are sending the St. Louis Rams at least two first-round picks plus future considerations for the right to own the No. 2 pick. ESPN is actually saying three first-round selections -- the team's firsts this year, in 2013 and 2014 -- are involved in the exchange as well as this year's No. 2 pick.

The trade cannot become official until the new league year opens March. 13.

So what impact does this have locally?

On national radio with Profootball.com Friday I told Mike Florio the Dolphins weren't going to make a strong enough play for the second overall pick because the asking price was simply too high and the Dolphins 1. didn't wish to use their chips to move that high and 2. didn't want to send that many assets to Jeff FIsher, the man who declined to become their coach earlier this year and picked the Rams instead. The Dolphins, however, did inquire about the possibility of getting into this deal -- to no avail.

Given the price of the trade, the Dolphins weren't able to get in play for RG3.

But this absolutely takes another QB option off the table.

The Dolphins are fully invested in the Peyton Manning chase but the need to succeed there now grows for Miami because options are fading.

If the Dolphins add Manning, they'll consider themselves successful and set for the near future. If they fail to convince Manning to come to South Florida, the only apparent option to addressing the void for a franchise quarterback is free agent Matt Flynn or selecting a lesser-rated quarterback in the draft -- assuming there's conviction that would bring an elite player.

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"Not to nitpick but they still have a first round pick, they just lost the next 2 years first rounders and a second."

Ha ha...."just?" That's a lot. And yes, you do have to count this year as 3 because it's in the deal. It's not like they get him and then another pick.

Posted by: Samantha | March 10, 2012 at 11:18 AM

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I don't find this trade to be substantially crazier than what the Giants did to get Eli. Teams who want a franchise QB do what they have to do to land them. Ross and Ireland have ZERO balls.

How old are you Aloco?? You should at least be out of grade school to comment.

That's an excellent idea, shula71. But I'm afraid that that at the last second, NO is going to tag Brees.

Posted by: oscar canosa | March 10, 2012 at 11:55 AM

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I believe they already tagged him last weekend.

Ross is putting business ahead of quality. I don't like it. Well, no decision has been made, so I will wait and see how this plays out.

For one Reggie Wayne has seen him throw because that's who he was throwing to. And Wayne has spoken with at least the Big O on 640 about how he's thrown.

ALoco,

Manning's neck is fine- it's been fortified four times! Teeth also in great shape for all those hilarious commercials. Arm will be strong in September after concrete workout regimen. (He hates that silly Cardinals helmet);;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

((Buffet of condo pizza delivery))

No Manning=no ticket sales. Healthy Manning=lots of sales.

Signing Manning without seeing him throw would be like marrying a girl before giving her a spin in the hay.

Brees was tagged last week. He hasn't signed the tag yet meaning he can't get trade. You must sign the tag and negotiate a contract to be traded.


But I respect them for taking the chance. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Ireland took a chance on a CFL player (Wake) and was rewarded. Sometimes taking a chance pays off, sometimes not.

Posted by: DC Dolfan | March 10, 2012 at 12:36 PM

DC,

There's an old saying we used in the Ghetto, "Scared Money don't make Money".

I'm sure the Fan Base is loving it(I'm assuming), but Snyder and Shanahan are going to have their Hearts in their throats for the forseeable future.

Can you imagine the elevated stress levels at Redskins Headquarters for the next 6 months?

Either way, it's going to be interesting watching the RGIII saga play out in DC!

ValHalla!!!!

AFTER 12 YEARS IN THE CELLAR .

AFTER 4 YEARS OF SPARANO THE PIZZA MAN AND HIS SON .


AFTER 4 YEARS OF IRELAND OUR GARAGE MANAGER.


AFTER WE HIRED A NEW HC FROM GB......


AFTER ALL THAT, WE R GOING TOI SIGN A QB WHO HAD 4 SURJRY ON HIS NECK,,,,,,,,,,..


(( BUFFET OF DONKEYS ))

Forget it then. What they will ask for Brees will be much more than what they asked for RG3.

Yeah, yeah, but is he going to get all that $ before anybody knows what he will end up with? Hmm..

Posted by: oscar canosa | March 10, 2012 at 12:41 PM

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Therein lies the crux of the problem. He's not going to throw because his arm isn't anywhere close to ready and the nerve has not regenerated. If he does throw, he's going to look terrible....and it won't matter because anyone going into this thing is banking on him getting his arm back by the start of the season. They know he doesn't have his arm right now.

He may well be throwing "better" than he was a month ago...two months ago, whatever....but it is pretty well known that the nerve has not regenerated. He will not be able to throw anywhere near what he is capable of until that nerve fully regenerates....which may or may not ever happen.

So, regardless of whether he throws or not, whomever lands him is simply taking a flyer that he will be healthy by the start of the season.

THE DENTIST WILL BE THE DECIDING FACTOR IF WE SIGN MANNING.......

I TRUST OUR DENTIST .......


PS.......ODRICK ??????????

ALoco,

Manning's neck is fine- it's been fortified four times! Teeth also in great shape for all those hilarious commercials. Arm will be strong in September after concrete workout regimen. (He hates that silly Cardinals helmet);;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

((Buffet of condo pizza delivery))

Posted by: Sylvester in Pompano | March 10, 2012 at 12:46 PM
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The neck isn't the issue.....nerve damage is! Until his nerve fully regenerates (if ever), Manning will be a shadow of his former self and nothing more.

Quilombo,

Isn't it really 'sour grapes' on your part that they didn't get RGIII, rather than you not liking the prospects of adding Manning. Is it true that neither you nor Jason Cole nor me nor anyone else REALLy know what conidtion Manning will be come September or future years. Isn't it REALLY you who's being 'narrow-minded in this whole thing. You talk of things of which you no nothing about. You're not close enough to the situation to have anything of real value to say about the situation and neither am I. You're talking about things you've read othr places but you make it sound factual....it's not.

I think it's time to get off the RGIII bandwagon and move on...

No Manning=no ticket sales. Healthy Manning=lots of sales.

Posted by: oscar canosa | March 10, 2012 at 12:47 PM

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Manning on the sidelines in a warm up suit = lots of people wanting their money back.

Seems the Redskins are much smarter than the Dolphins. They apparently know it takes a top notch QB to win games and they will select RG3 with that second round pick.
Once again the silly Dolphins have ruined the possibility of winning.
I have been a fan since Don Shula was hired and I now will cancel the NFL Sunday ticket and suggest to all my family and friends in Miami to let Ross know how disappointed we are. To not renew their season tickets.

CAN ANYONE SAY EMPTY SEATS? THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I HOPE NO ONE GOES TO THE GAMES.
THE DOLPHINS HAVE MADE ME SICK. SO SICK I WILL NO LONGER CALL THEM MY TEAM.
STEPHAN ROSS IS THE DUMBEST OWNER IN THE LEAGUE AND JEFF IRELAND IS ACTUALLY ON THE JETS PAYROLL UNDERCOVER.

Even though we have a new coaching staff, the rest of this regime (which is basically just Ireland) is in it's fifth season.

Starting over is not an option. Thats what you would be doing if traded a bounty of picks for a rookie QB or if you traded away your pro bowl LT tackle for a draft pick.

This team is in a must win now mode and doesn't have franchise QB.

Manning and Flynn are risk's that they must take a hard look at.

If Ireland doesn't win this year he may be out the door as well. And while that may not sound like a bad idea to some i would much rather us just win NOW!!!

WOLFMAN/SYLVESTER.........

YOU NOTICE THE DOLPHIN FANS ARE THE ONLY ONE IN THE COUNTRY WHO PLAY DOCTOR ,A NERV DOCTOR THAT IS ...WHEN WE SHOULD BE TALKING DRAFT AND YOUNG PLAYER ......

IS ANY ONE HERE IS A NERVE DOCTOR ?

If the reports are true, RG3 is past. Now, Manning and Flynn.

Craig,


I've not even mentioned RG3 so I don't know where you are coming from. I simply can not understand this giddiness for Manning considering his condition and the risk level that he will even be ready.

Go project your thoughts on somebody else, not me.

Here is my thought on whether Dolphins are getting Manning. It will of course be impossible to prove.

I think that there was already an agreement between the Dolphins and Manning, in other words TAMPERING. Manning is creating the dog and pony show, visiting a couple of other teams with the last visit being the Dolphins, he then signs and it looks like he did his DD.

There was too much talk "I haven't even thought about where I want to go", SURE. Then 30 hours later, it's "narrowed down" to 3 teams : )

Then in 3-4 days it is announced. HMMMMM.

I think the decision is in place, and it will be the Dolphins.

My opinion by the way.

Craig

You are wrong. I know Manning is not throwing for anybody. That to me is a huge red flag. If he was 30, maybe I risk it, at his age, no way. It's foolish. Manning isn't taking anyone to a SB on limited training with a brand new team.

Juan Valdez,

you the only one envious of the Redskins! Please don't hassle your family and friends!

John Valdes, again John the Dolphins did NOT have enough chips to compete with the Skins for the 2nd pick, not the 2nd round pick. The Skins had the number 6 pick, the Dolphins had the number 8 pick. The Skins had the better picks to offer, period. The skins weren't going to take picks that were higher from the Dolphins just to do tem a favor. It has nothing to do with Ross or Ireland or anyone. The picks are the picks and the Dolphins didn't have them,.

You guys talk about signing a QB that won't even throw for you?

That is incomprehensible to me.

Quilombo,

You say things like 'I thought Manning would be fine last year and he wasn't', like this is supposed to mean a dark future for Manning. Again, what were you basing your decision on? Did you talk to doctors that were close to the situation and then found out afterwards to your surprise that they were wrong. I'm not getting your point. We're not close enough to have an opinion of any value, so why bring this up? It's something you read on Yahoo from a writer and some 'sources'. Get my point? We don't know. We can comment on it all day but it means NOTHING. Unsubstantiated OPINION....that's all.

Not sure why you are so Hell bent on spending money on Manning anyways. It's not your money....who cares! What's your REAL beef with this whole thing? What's your gameplan now (other than go on and on about RGIII)?

Ireland isnt savvy like most GM's. So we suffer until he's fired.

RGIII talk is ridiculous. The chart price for us to get ahead of the 'Skins offer would be adding next years 2 also.

2012, 2013, 2014 #1

2012, 2013 #2

No thanks.

THE NECK

THE DENTIST


AND THE SIDELINE..............


Remember when Tim TeBoy was scrambling around for his dear life in every game? Picture Peyton Manning doing that. Can't? Neither can I. A visit is not the same as signing. Yet right now, a blogger with the first name of "O" is saying we should "move on" from Manning.

Craig, I think either you are addressing the wrong person or can't read. I am not discussing RG3. Futhermore, your attitude is nasty and ugly, so don't talk to me anymore.


To repeat:


You guys talk about signing a QB that won't even throw for you.

That is incomprehensible to me. I can not believe it every time I think about it. It's the most foolish thing I've ever heard.

Long time I had heard of Trini Lopez. I think he got killed in The Dirty Dozen.

Quilombo,

You were ALL OVER RGIII this week. You and I talked about it. 'Give up the farm'..."Give them anything they want'....'Future franchise QB'. Come on....at least man up and admit that you're crushed because the team didn't get RGIII. It's what you wanted. At the end of the day, it's not really about Mannning at all, is it bud? It's about not getting that future star QB that you wanted....

And you address RG3 with me saying we should have done more than Washington.

John Valdes,

Thanks for sharing.....guess you're going to miss the fun when Manning comes to town and gets this team rolling. Too bad.....good luck!

Good point about Tebow Samantha. He was running for his life quite regularly.

Pass that on to Peyton would ya. :)

NO Team is going to give Peyton anything until they verify that he can throw the ball with the same effectiveness as before. No fools in the NFL, specially with the amount of bucks flying around.

WOLFMAN/SYLVESTER.........

YOU NOTICE THE DOLPHIN FANS ARE THE ONLY ONE IN THE COUNTRY WHO PLAY DOCTOR ,A NERV DOCTOR THAT IS ...WHEN WE SHOULD BE TALKING DRAFT AND YOUNG PLAYER ......

IS ANY ONE HERE IS A NERVE DOCTOR ?

Posted by: ALoco | March 10, 2012 at 12:59 PM

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LOL....I'm not a nerve doctor, but I can tell you what doctors told me when I severed the nerve in my thumb. "It could be 6 months, 9 months, a year, 5 years.....could be never.

Nerves are weird that way. They're not like ligaments, muscles, and tendons that you can do some sort of physical therapy to expedite the healing process. When I severed the nerve in my thumb, it took about a year before I started to get SOME feeling back in my thumb. Before that, it was completely dead....I could hold a lighter to my thumb and not feel a damned thing (fun party trick). All in all, it took about 3 years for the nerve to fully regenerate and get complete feeling back in my thumb.

Personally, I can't imagine if it was one of those big nerves coming out of your vertebrae....would make it pretty hard to do lots of things, let alone throw a football with NFL velocity.

Craig, yes, that was yesterday or before. Today is a new day and I have no longer been discussing RG3 because its a done deal.

When you go over 10 years with no viable QB, I'd blow the wad just like Washington did and be done with it. Your plan is to mire in mediocrity with Flynn and Tanne and other acorns.

You and others would rather risk an aging injured QB in rehab who won't even throw the football over a young promising star. Not me.

Why do we not grab Reggie Wayne regardless?

So, if Peyton signs soon with whomever, you can rest assured that all those injuries and rehabilitation stories were magnified and he is still the same old Peyton. If he doesn't, bad news for him, and us.

Gotta ask yourself one Question, If you had the oppirtunity to Play for A Ross/Ireland team or another team Which would you do?, Two coaches chose the latter, Iam sure Manning will too.

wolf,

So if Manning is offered a contract, heavy on incentives, what's the down side? It doesn't pan out and we have to release him? Could be worse....we could have done what the Cards did last year, trade a player and a second round pick and pay the QB, $60 million with large guarantees. The what?

You're only talking about the negatives. What if he rebounds to what he was before the injury and has another 5 productive years in the league and does it for someone else....remind me you of anyone? Give you a clue....he plays in NO and just broke Marino's passing record this year.

"I don't find this trade to be substantially crazier than what the Giants did to get Eli. Teams who want a franchise QB do what they have to do to land them. Ross and Ireland have ZERO balls."
(Wolfman)

I don't agree for several reasons. One, Ireland loves RGIII. Secondly, even Eli was not a three 1-round trade. This beats his deal. And are you saying RGIII is going to be Eli Manning? Because he'd better be at this point, right? And that assuming he doesn't get hurt.

For the next two seasons the Skins will be sitting at the draft saying, " It would be really cool to have a 1st round pick"

Hey maybe can trade John Beck for one.....oh well maybe not.

If RG3 doesn't pan out they are toast. Big time.

Coalition To Ban Ireland and Odin, depends, if it was a Bill Bidwell team, I'd pick Ross and Ireland any day.

So Quilombo,

Just to recap what you just said:

It IS about not getting RGIII and not about Manning so much. Give it up, man!! It's done! Ireland didn't want to pay the price and I applaud him for it. I really like RGIII but I like the plan they have better than yours. 'Mediocrity'? Who said anything about being happy about mediocrity?

Just so I'm clear, how so will it be before the 'Skins are out of mediocrity? Next year?

ALoco,

I was once a mighty fine nerve doctor, in my younger days.... if our Peyton feels he'll be fine that's good enough for me;;;;;;;;;;;; (Hope John Valdez leaves family & friends the heck alone too)////////

((Buffet Arm & Hammer))

Still, there are some Owners that profit more from their Team losing than winning. I remember Wrigley, Snyder now, others. Ross might/mightnot be one of this type. I don't know, yet.

wolf,

According to Peter King, this is the biggest trade for a draft pick in over 30 years. Bigger than what the Falcons did for Vick and bigger what the Giants did for Eli. Bigger than what the Saints did for Ricky. 'Skins are a bottom ten team and have been for years. They'd better getting moving or it's going to be THREE top ten picks, not just the one from this year.

You're only talking about the negatives. What if he rebounds to what he was before the injury and has another 5 productive years in the league and does it for someone else....remind me you of anyone? Give you a clue....he plays in NO and just broke Marino's passing record this year.

Posted by: Craig M | March 10, 2012 at 01:17 PM


Hahaha. Craig, seriously, you are on some serious hallucinogetics.

1. The down side is you are only wasting more time and taking time away from others to develop.
2. The down side is endless speculation who will be the starter in Sept, not a good thing.
3. How can you compare Brees to Manning? Brees did not have 4 neck surgeries and nerve regeneration issues and Brees was FAR younger. Five more productive years for Manning? Dude, you are seriously dreaming.

I'll tell you, you argument is really just plain stupid. I don't even know why I am responding.

Craig M - I would be very happy with that. I'm expecting the Phins will ink Manning....and I hope I'm wrong on all accounts. Just seems like everyone is getting very excited about a guy whom himself has said that his nerve has not regenerated. I think fans should be happy if the Phins land Manning, but also be prepared for the very real possibility that the only Dolphin uniform he'll be wearing is a warm up suit on the sidelines.

The Brees/Manning comparison is apples to oranges. A fairly standard shoulder operation (many QBs have had) vs a dead nerve. Also....Brees was in his prime at 27, almost a decade younger than Manning. Personally, I think the doctors steered clear because of how the exact same surgery impacted Pennington and Pennington's ability to put any zip on the ball. In many ways, it made sense....looking at two QBs coming off injury....one to his throwing shoulder and the other a knee. What Saban failed to take into account was how much Cpepper relied on his legs and mobility....other than that, it seemed a no brainer at the time.

What kind of nerve, ALoco, peripheral or Central. Because I treat nervous People.

The ironic thing is that it would have made more since for Miami to make this trade than Washington because Miami has less holes to fill in the future. Not that trading 3 # ones has any since to it at all.

DC,
There's an old saying we used in the Ghetto, "Scared Money don't make Money".

Posted by: odinseye | March 10, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Now Oder pertending to be Black,LMAO,What's next dude,Well you be spanish next?, What a idiot.

Farve was a very rare exception in that he played well so late in his career. (And no neck surgeries or nerve regeneration issues) The Marinos and Elways and Fouts and all the others were in full decline by Mannings age.

Let's not smoke the peace pipe here.

You will all be happy to know I am done for the day. Really, there are too many dreamers here and very little sensible logic.

wolf,

'A very standard shoulder operation that many QBs have'? Are you kidding me? The doctors recommened to Saban not to sign Brees. That's NOT a 'standard operation that many QBs have'. Come on man, your twisting the facts of the story.

For the next two seasons the Skins will be sitting at the draft saying, " It would be really cool to have a 1st round pick"

Hey maybe can trade John Beck for one.....oh well maybe not.

If RG3 doesn't pan out they are toast. Big time.

Posted by: Dolfan Rick | March 10, 2012 at 01:17 PM

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Yup....that's the chance you take. At least they're willing to put themselves out there and have the balls to go after the guy they like. And it's not like life won't go on...they'll have a rough patch for 5 years or so....but then again, they've been in a rough patch for even longer than the Phins. Nothing to lose IMO. I'm sure I'll be on my death bed before the Phins ever go after QB in the draft that really has "franchise" potential.

Conversely, If he does work out, they're set at the QB position for the next decade plus.

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