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Riley Reiff to Dolphins at No. 8? Are you kidding?

Riley Reiff is a good football player, OK? I have nothing against the offensive tackle from the University of Iowa. I have watched a couple of games in which he has played and he's always performed well enough.

And that, coupled with his size and ability and smarts, is a reason he's considered a top of the first round type of talent. But to the Dolphins? Are you kidding me?

God, I hope not.

Seems Reiff to the Dolphins is a popular stream of thought among NFL draft analysts. ESPN's Mel Kiper penciled Reiff to Miami in his first and only (so far) mock draft. NFL Network talent analyst Bucky Brooks similarly has Reiff going to the Dolphins with the eighth overall selection. And NFL Network reporter Steve Wyche has the Dolphins picking Reiff as well.

I get it.

Reiff is an offensive tackle. He's perfect for the Dolphins to fill the void at right tackle -- even though he played left tackle at Iowa. And, of course, his connections to Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz makes him a natural for the Dolphins because Miami coaches Joe Philbin and Mike Sherman know and respect Ferentz and value his players.

But ...

Riley Reiff, for all his attributes and gifts and the logic of filling an obvious void, would be a terrible pick for the Dolphins at No. 8. Why?


There is simply not a great deal of value of picking a right tackle in the top 10 selections of the draft. No, there's no rule that says this is a fact. No, there's no philosophy or statistic that has proven this to be the case. But work with me for a second and let me state my case ...

{UPDATE: Since posting this, I got a call from an NFL scout who reads the blog and he told me he has Reiff as a guard. And he said he's not alone in the thinking. So there's that.]

The draft is not only picking the right players, but also getting them in the right round to maximize their value. And in the top 10 a team with so many needs as Miami has should not be investing on a player that neither will score points, nor prevent points from being scored. The offensive right tackle will never, not even on his best day, throw a TD pass, or intercept a pass, or sack the quarterback, strip him of the ball and run it in for a TD. He will never make a game-changing play.

And that game-changer is the only kind of player that brings value to a team in the top 10 picks.

Said another way, I want my team to pick a quarterback, a cornerback, a wide receiver, a 3-4 OLB or 4-3 DE. I want playmakers drafted in the top 10.

I do not want grunts.

Grunts are wonderful additions later.


Because grunts don't lead a team to the playoffs or the Super Bowl. Playmakers lead teams to the playoffs or the Super Bowl.

That doesn't mean I am against drafting offensive linemen later in the first round or anytime after that. And some special offensive linemen deserve top 10 consideration depending on a team's relative needs and whether the player is a left tackle or center.

But a right tackle? Or a guard?

In the top 10?

Quick, who was Green Bay's right tackle this year while they went 15-1? Quick, who was the last right tackle to be named NFL MVP or even his own team's MVP?

Yeah, thought so.

A top 10 pick is a premium, premium draft choice. It should be used to select premium, premium NFL playmakers.

And right tackles, no matter how gifted, do not qualify. Reiff, by the way, is No. 77 in the video below.


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I think Miami has the best shot at Peyton. SB's are never guaranteed, but in the AFC East he will have a chance to beat Brady twice a year and improve his legacy.

The colts have needs everywhere. You name it they need it. between resigning manning and signing luck thats what 50million on two players? I dont see that happening. Also not mentioned is how does the new coach and gm feel about being hamstrung by that much capspace? That oline is.horrible not to mention the defense as a whole.

Most of the sportscasters are now saying the Colts wnt to sign him for somewhere between 15-18 mill.

yeah i dont thinking manning goes back to a rebuilding team at this stage of the game.if startstruck stephen really wants him in miami then peyton at 75% is better then all but rodgers-brady-eli-ben-brees.use #8 to take tannehill.he's got prototypical size,he's atheletic,he knows sherman's system,and he's got a nice stat line for a guy that started 20 games. hopefully he gets 2-3 years of watching/learning from one of the best ever, and he works with 2 coaches who worked with favre and rodgers.

Who or what is "fleener", and why in the world am I picking him in the 2nd instead of a QB?

IF we get Flynn, I would not expect them to draft a QB (unfortunately). But Manning, or neither - we draft a QB. Nothing worth putting money into in the 3rd, so has to be the 2nd. We have Moore as probable back-up(3rd round equiv), Devlin (competition for a back-up spot), so anything less than an attempt for starter QB would be worthless.

God I hope I'm not wrong.
Keep #8, or trade down for two lower spots BEFORE our 2nd round. But another 2nd rounder doesn't help us.
We need a star. Last time we drafted one? ....
Taylor, Thomas? It's hard to count Long. And V. Davis is on the fence still.

Dolphins fans so stupid.
PriceMaster so smart.
PriceMaster tell you 2 months ago Peyton not come here.
PriceMaster tell you 2 months ago Flynn not come here.
Only acorns come here.
Last season Phins started 6 acorns.
Acorns belong on end of wang not in stating lineup.
By Monday you will all have to swallow PriceMaster load as an apology to him.
PriceMaster smart
You so stupid.

Polian cleaned house. He is just trying to be diplomatic with Peyton. Until Peyton proves his is back to form, nobody is going to invest in him.

It's not 1990 where you let #1 overall pick QB's ride the bench for 3 years. Look at how many first round rookie QB's have done well over the last few years. Luck will start day 1. They will throw him into the fire and let him learn by doing. If it worked for Flacco, Ryan, Sanchez, Stafford, it will work for Luck.

Just read about N.O. cheating. Ha! Never liked the squeaky clean Brees and the media always talking about Kathrina. Hey everybody, that was 7 years ago.

Ever heard of Andrew? Floridians know what I mean.

A right tackle is not crucial with a right handed QB...unless his name is Columbo.

Mando, you knocked it out of the park.

Columbus one of 6 starting acorns. Not even qualified to be a backup on other team is starter on this team.
No wondr no good FA's want to come here.

JS -- In my scenario (which is obviously pure speculation) I have us taking -

#1 Mercilus DE
#2 a Fleener TE from Stanford
#2 b Bobby Massie OT
#3 Osweiler QB
#4 AJ Jenkins WR Illinois - When I watch him he reminds me a little of John Taylor from the 49ers back in the Jerry Rice days.

I am going off the huge assumption that we get Manning and Osweiler can learn behind Manning for 3 years.

JS -- in my scenario I talked about trading with Cincy, I have us taking -

#1 Mercilus
#2a Coby Fleener TE Stanford
#2b Bobby Massie OT
#3 Osweiler QB
#4 AJ Jenkins WR Illinois - reminds me a little of John Taylor from the 49ers back in the Rice days

With this I am making the huge assumption that we pick up Manning and Osweiler can learn from him for 3 years or so.

Ooops, It looked like it didn't post the first time so re-posted. ha -- it is worth a 2nd read...haha

very simple, trade up and take griffin


#1 Mercilus(or Coples/Kuechly)

#2a Coby Fleener TE Stanford

#2b Kirk Cousins QB MSU

#3 Massie or next best Right Guard available.

#4 AJ Jenkins WR Illinois - reminds me a little of John Taylor from the 49ers back in the Rice days


To each their own Texas,
Osweiler is the only Maybe I'd see in the 3rd. But I'd still rather no waste a QB pick on anyone other than a dude we really do want to be the future of the franchise. Another so-so back-up pick will turn into another QB pick a year or two later.
Our holes at DE/OLB, S, and WR are much vaster IMO than a TE, especially since he WCO uses speed and YAC to drive the chains, size is the least important.
Mercilus is a reach according to the "experts" but what the heck do they know. Who knows?

john taylor couldnt play in the nfl today

I'm sure Peyton Manning wants to play 1-2 more years and retire a Colt.

Oh, Lord! Why do we Cuban Dolfans have to go thru this? Armando.

good let manning stay right where hes at. guy is done


If you are asking who I'd choose between the three at #1 I would say Mercilus. But that is for 2 reasons.

1. I think Coples will be gone at #17 (trade with cincy)

2. I place a little more value on pass rush than I do ILB. Plus Keuchly may be gone at 15 to the Eagles. I realize Mercilus is a 1 yr wonder but so was Clay Mathews.

I do think we go 10-6 with a healthy Manning.

tgh we will never know, manning will never be healthy again

I'm sure Peyton Manning wants to play 1-2 more years and retire a Colt.

Posted by: TGH | March 02, 2012 at 08:54 PM

I'm sure Peyton does not want to finish his last two years on a team rebuilding from scratch. He has a tiny window to win a trophy. He won't go back to the Colts.

I don't want to select an offense guard and u r preaching to the choir but I just want to point out that you stated a player in this position is less valuable than a RB, WR, LB, CB etc....to the exception of a QB every player is just as valuable, this player will prevent sacks..to your sack logic, this player can open up a 70 yard run, this player can prevent an interception which just as much of a game changer. What we don't see is just as important (insert Marc Colombo). Based on need I have to believe we need two or three more positions more than this but not based on your logic. I would not pick a guard after selecting a Center last year..I think we have to go Defense LB, CB or WR if they don't use this pick for trade for a QB...i think the Defense can't be ignored just because it did well last year. We have seen some times a top Rated Defense Fall to the bottom 3rd in less than a Season.

reese he will for 28 million

JS -- If the trade happens who do you take 1 with the same picks?

We need a first string QB, Man. Whomever.

yeah only trade that is gonna happene is miami trading up to nuymber 2 pick for griffin

Odin - Sorry just noticed you slipped Cousins in there for the 2b pick. I prefer Cousins over Osweiler and if we could get him there that would great. We could always look at Mitchel Schwartz OT in the third. or best OT there.

Hmmm I like that better.

Leonard Nimoy's 2nd head, is pointed. Also.

I like the Fleener, Cousins and Massie picks. In the fourth I'd rather have either Joe Adams or Jarius Wright depending on which would be available and if they were to pick a wr.

Just caught the end of the new Star Trek movie. First time I've seen any of it. Thought it sucked vs the original.

I’ve been reading where some people have been putting out the scenario where Miami trades down to #17 and Cincinnati gets the #8 pick because they need a running back and really want Richardson. In the scenario, Miami would also receive Cincy’s 2nd round pick plus another pick, maybe in the 4th.
This is the way I look at it. They have a chance to get a player that could make a huge difference on their team if they stay at #8. If they trade down to #17 for the purpose of doing something like getting better value if they took Tannehill the scenario wouldn’t benefit them.
Some would say they got their franchise qb but the franchise qb they would be getting is going to sit for some time before he is ready to play. So Moore could be the starter for the next two years while Tannehill sits. Personally, I like Moore and would like to see what he could do in Philbin’s offense so having Moore play for the next two years wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing, in my opinion.
The part of the scenario I don’t agree with is this. If Miami is going to trade down to #17 I would say, instead of taking a 2nd and 4th round pick in 2012 they should do what the Rams are doing. Cincy really needs a back and would love to get their hands on Richardson. They would be trading up 9 spots to get that chance. I say forgoe the extra picks in 2012 and tell Cincy you’ll do the trade for their #1 next year. That gives them the opportunity to select a quarterback in the first round next year and go and get someone like Barkley, Jones, Wilson or Florence. If you’re going to pick a guy in the 1st who’s going to sit for 2 years anyway why not wait one more year and get a better prospect.

Gene Roddenberry, Rod Serling, Alfred Hitchcock, were highly educated People. Of course TV has to suck now.

Guessing trade down scenarios and how the board falls is beyond ridiculous. Totally fantasy. Might as well spend your time wanking a camel.

IMO, no way Richardson gets to #8. If he does, grab him!

wanking a camel? HoHo!

Hitchcock was a master artist. He started in the days of silent film when you really had to know how to tell a story with the camera. Today is all effects and bs.

As a matter of fact, I loved a TV series named Twin Peaks which very few other People seemed to like. David Lynch. Where has Education gone in this Country? My God!

Today's short attention span society has the depth of a bubble gum comic strip. Nobody reads, nobody has depth, its all very shallow entertainment that wins the masses over.

Of course, it is also a fact that the less educated the Mass is, the easier to govern. Yes?

There are VERY well educated People in this Country. Perhaps, 5-10% of the Population. They are those that will Guide.

You cannot confuse $ or rhetoric with Education when in the act of voting.

That 5-10% over and under in Education, stands fast all over our Civilization.



If Manning comes to Miami it'll be to retire.


Save a tree, wipe with your hand. Works for me!


We could trade back to 17. Then trade back up to around 12. If nobody we want is there, we trade back for yet another pick to 23. Then we should have 23,27 and 28 which is better than just 8. Or we can trade all the way out of round one for several second round picks, exchange our 8 and have multiple #2's. That is if Cincy trades with Cleveland and Washington swaps with St Louis and Denver trades back so that Oakland can trade up.

Philbin = Cameron

Professor Goo, fascinating trade scenario. The only real hole in it is I don't see Denver helping divisional rival Oakland move up in the first round.

Other than that, you're an absolute genius.

Home quotes since two weeks ago to current,

"MVP QB Peyton Manning is doing just fine"

"Of Course Peyton is simply going through physical rehab safely, Peyton will not be throwing 70 YD Bombs at the incipient stage of rehab"

"Expect Peyton to make a full recovery and play excellent for 3 more years"

"Peyton Manning is by far the best choice for the Miami Dolphins because he is the smartest NFL QB and WINS at least 10 games every year fro 11 years consecutively"

"Peyton Manning PLUS keeping our (2)1st round draft picks and (3) other high round draft picks is a No Brainer for Miami"

"MVP QB Peyton Manning WILL be a Miami Dolphin in 2012"


Most of the time, Home brings it Home(in Football matters only).


aren't u dead set against the "broken neck Peyton Manning....who will keep us in the cellar"....

Have you seen the light this morning....

Wait a sec, (2)1st round draft picks?

Oh, I get it. We trade our #8 for a 17 and 25 in the first round. No?

Aloco @ 7:48.....

Your ENGLISH and GRAMMAR are remarkable....almost flawless....

I guess they got somebody knew working @ the Herald staff this morning.....and he didn't read your full bio.....he never got past the ALL CAPS section.....

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