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So where is the Jake Long contract extension?

Jake Long is in the final year of a contract that seemed oh-so-expensive in 2008 when he signed as the first overall draft pick but has been well worth the money to date. Long is scheduled to make $11.2 million in his contract year and cost upwards of $12.8 million against the cap.

The base salary is basically the cost of doing business. The cap charge seems like a case of business that could be done better.

The fact is the Dolphins need to extend Long's deal. He has been a good player. He is a foundation stone for the franchise. And an extension could easily lower that cap charge and give the team more space to maneuver as it wishes in the coming days of the 2012 league year.

Yet, off Long went on his honeymoon recently and the Dolphins didn't have a new contract ready for him as a wedding gift.

Why?

Ah, the why is a puzzle.

The club's official stance is that Long without doubt is not going anywhere, that he is outstanding and that he absolutely will not be allowed to hit free agency at the end of 2012 so that he can possibly go elsewhere.

Good call, Dolphins folks!

So why the delay when an extension could be beneficial for both sides? Well the possibilities are the puzzle.

Maybe both sides have a wink-wink agreement that something will get done and it will. Great, but time is money and the longer this is on the back burner, the weaker the Dolphins seem from a cap standpoint.

Maybe both sides have talked and they simply haven't come to an agreement. This is probably the most likely scenario. The truth is gauging Long's value won't be easy. Cleveland re-signed Joe Thomas to an 8-year contract worth a reported $92 million that included a whopping $44 million in guaranteed money. That's an $11.5 million annual average. And the trouble for the Dolphins is Long will expect to exceed this deal by a significant amount.

Worth it? Obviously yes at first blush. But look deeper. Long is worth is if he's healthy. Long is worth it if the club last season judged his play to be as good as ever -- unlikely considering his rash of injuries. Long, in short, is worth it if the Dolphins believe him to be Jonathan Ogden or Walter Jones -- both of whom played for years at exceedingly high levels and without injuries.

But what if Long is Tony Boselli? Boselli was perhaps the best left tackle in the game early in his career with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Big, strong, mobile, he was Long before Long. But then he injured a knee. Then he injured an ankle. Then he hurt his shoulder. And then he hurt the shoulder again. And again.

And by his seventh NFL season, Boselli was broken. Folks were surprised when Boselli was placed on the expansion list and allowed to go to Houston. But when he arrived in Houston, injured and unable to contribute, everyone understood.

So is Long on the road to being Boselli? In the past two years he's had a building litany of injuries -- first a knee, then an ankle and shoulder and last year a back and a torn right biceps that forced him to finish the season on injured reserve.

Are the Dolphins worried the trend might continue? Even privately there is confidence Long will recover and continue to be a pillar of the offensive line. But I would imagine the club would nonetheless like to protect itself financially against the continuation of the recent trend.

Perhaps the club prefers to see how Long returns and is handling training camp and the early part of the season before committing to a new contract.

That would be smart. Of course, in the meantime, that significant cap hit glows in neon as needing to be addressed. It is a catch-22. Pay Long and gamble he'll be fine? Or delay a new contract and suffer the tightened cap space?

There is, of course, another scenario that might explain the lack of a new contract for Long. It is obvious this is a big-ticket item. It will cost a lot of dollars. What if owner Stephen Ross, smarting from tanking ticket sales, simply isn't in position to dole out $40-$50 million in guaranteed money right now, much of which would no doubt come in the form of a hefty signing bonus?

What if the Dolphins -- among the bottom five spenders in cash outlay a year ago -- are simply trying to hold down costs again?

These are all questions the Dolphins don't have to answer. But it would clear things up if they did.

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GOOD MANDO...JEFFY REBUILDING? FRONT OFFICE CAN TRADE LONG FOR TO 1ST ROUNDERS? WHAT ARE YOU THINK?

Thomas with 44 million guranteed?! Only if I was a 6 ft 8 fat block head who can push around other fat men..

Irescum will trade Long for a 4th rd pk.

Ross is too cheap to pay Long any more.

Before Long's contract is extended he has to meet Jeff Ireland's criteria:
1. Is he a true acorn?
2. Are his mother's morals beyond reproach?
Then and only then will the Dolphins even consider a contract extension.

Dont be fooled again. Long will be gone next season!

Pay the man!! He is only Dolphin player worth a woot

Long has most certainly not been worth the money, and this is proven by emperical evidence. Offensive linemen cannot be difference makers. That this is incontrovertibly true is proven by the Fins lack of playoff wins since drafting Long # 1 instead of a good QB.

Also, Long is washed up and he should not be resigned, at all, let alone contract extended.

Please try to pay attention! Even Mando is a sheep sometimes.

Watch the games; don't just listen to ESPN. Long has been okay but he's basically fungible. Don't go citing me to Columbo. Yeah yeah. You can't have O linemen who totally suck, but what i'm saying is generally true.

Jake Long is damaged goods and is facing another shortened season and a short career. He has FIVE different nagging injuries. Doubt he could pass a trade physical. Should've drafted Matt Ryan.

Good question, Ireland, you've had an easy offseason, get it done!

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I was wondering when mando will get fired so I don't have to read him anymore. Just get someone else to right about the phins since mando hates the phins and only covers them because its his JOB!

Once again I was right. I told you 2 months ago that Long is finished. He's injured. He's Boselli. Terrible pick that has set the franchise back. Look at our playoff record. That's incontrovertible evidence that I am correct.

You let Long go is what you do. Nothing against him as a person. Also a winning attitude guy. Just too big and now his knees and ankle are shot.

I was wondering when mando will get fired so I don't have to read him anymore. Just get someone else to right about the phins since mando hates the phins and only covers them because its his JOB!
Posted by: BoulderPhinfan | March 22, 2012 at 11:32 AM


Mando is the voice of the people. He tells it like it is. Everyone hates THESE Fins!

Who's left to spend money on?

Maybe Ireland can get another 3rd and a late 6th.
ACORNS BUDDY , YEA !!!!

JL could cruch you all between his fingers, dancing circles around you in the process.

Mando,

The injuries with Long are a MAJOR concern. Joe Thomas has stayed relatively healthy where Jake has been beaten up the last two seasons. Although I believe we will draft Coples b/c he fits the Parcells/Ireland prototype in terms of size, personally I'd draft Riley Reiff. I'd start Reiff @ RT this year (like the Patriots did with Nate Solder) & if Long can't hold up physically then I'd have to let him walk & give the LT job to a younger & less expensive player.

Long is a GREAT LT when healthy BUT the most important attribute for any professional athlete is his durability & his sustainability. If a player is starting to break down you don't extend him. Breaking the bank on Long for another 5 years is WAY too risky at this juncture IMO. This is not so different then what the Texans did with Mario Williams. Had Mario stayed healthy the last two seasons I don't believe he would have ever became a Bill.

If there's a player that deserves an extension it's Randy Starks. The guy plays with all heart regardless of how poorly the rest of the team has played at times. He's an extremely valuable player b/c he's really a DT in a 4-3 BUT he can still produce @ DE in a 3-4 at a very high level. The guy was asked to move inside to play NT which is NOT a position he was comfortable with & did what the team asked of him. Luckily for us Soliai stepped up & became the NT (or the plug) that we were looking for to replace Jason Ferguson.

Mando,

There are A LOT of idiots that post on this blog. How the hell are you still sane?

Maybe they have not restructured his deal because he's on the trade market.

IMO it might be a good idea to see what we could get for him this year. There are a lot of OT available in this years draft to replace him for a lot less money.

I like Long and he's a very good OT but he's expensive and was drafted before the rookie Salary structure. It makes sense money wise and we could draft another OT to fill the gap.

I am not sure who would take him but I would at least see what could be had for him.

Maybe they have not restructured his deal because he's on the trade market.

IMO it might be a good idea to see what we could get for him this year. There are a lot of OT available in this years draft to replace him for a lot less money.

I like Long and he's a very good OT but he's expensive and was drafted before the rookie Salary structure. It makes sense money wise and we could draft another OT to fill the gap.

I am not sure who would take him but I would at least see what could be had for him.

Forget Long the guy is making over 10 million dollars this year. How about Wake who is making less than the kicker!!1

Slow day Mando? You know damn well he will get franchised, then they'll negotiate the deal. Business as usual in the NFL (Brees, Vick and Peyton last year).

Oh I've been talking to myself on the last post. Here:

Ozkar, the white big mouth linebacker (it was Brian Bozworth!!!!) who got run over by Bo Jackson called Elway "HOrse Face," I belive. that's where I got it from.

"Home the blog idiot," you are truly uneducated. You can't read or write. I am not Home. It is obvious to any educated person who can read and understands little nuances in writing.

I am not Ozkar or Home. I detect that they might be Gators.

I happen to agree with Home on many--but not all--of his points.

One of them is that Tim Tebow is a winner. It's a proven fact that cannot be disputed. Look at his record at every level of football.

Look at what he does on the field. He's the type of teammate who makes thugs like Brandon Marshall get his head on straight.

I don't care if you understand this or not, but it will happen: you will see Tim Tebow on winning football teams. Not as a Bradylike QB throwing 40 times a game, but as a change-of-pace guy or even as a FB/TE who will contribute 12 to 16 TDs for his team. You will see his teams win playoff games.

Also, Home's comments are entertaining and always related to football (or sometimes the Illuminati). All you do, "home the blog idiot", is complain about home and falsely accuse others of being home and you say nothing about football.

You are the one who should be banned. You're probably the idiot who stole my Timmy Couch name.

What happens is that I write hard hitting facts and, even though most of you are uneducated, you are sometimes able to understand perhaps 40% of it, and
the truth hurts like a kick in the gut.

See now here I disagree with Ozkar. The Patriots will again be unstoppable and will represent the AFC, again, in the super bowl.

Tebow is a winner and a good addition to a team, but I am NOT predicting Jets vs. Broncos for AFC championship.

What I am saying is the Jets are, at least, exciting, and getting Tebow was smart, whereas my former team, the Fins, are boring.



Maybe Ross is asking why the 2 teams with the best left tackles are also among the worst teams in the NFL. And if you don't even have a QB to PROTECT, then why the h*ll are you paying an arm and a leg for a stud left tackle.

I thought Long was expendable THIS Season. I wanted him used as trade bait for a trade-up or to get more draft picks or to get maximum return if there's even a chance of him walking next year.

Didn't Ireland see John Jerry playing LT those last 2 games? He looked like Jake Long to me.

But, then again, if we lost Jake Long, we'd have NO PROBOWLERS on the team (Soliai was a late addition, not initially on the ProBowl squad).

Sad when you're best player is a LT. But explains why your club is 6-10.

Is there really much of a cap savings to be had if the new contract would exceed the contract signed by Joe Thomas? What would be the projected cost to franchise him in 2013?

Like many others, I am not convinced he is worth that kind of cabbage. I am definitely not convinced that he is the best LT in the league.

I would be very tempted to ride 2012 under the current contract and then franchise him in 2013 if he is healthy and the cap number is acceptable.

I would love to get my mouth close to Tebow's virgin jewels

Timmy Couch,

Are you for real??? Now you're a Jets fan??? They're even more of a mess than we are. I'd take Moore over Sanchez any day of the week.

I may not be a fan of ownership or management but a Jets fan???? For what??? B/c they signed a RB who is ultra-religious to be a backup QB??? B/c they continue to delude themselves that they have a franchise QB??? That's just sad.

I hate the Jets. I am a fan of Tebow (even though I myself am not religious--I'm talking only about winning attitude players). That's who I'm a fan of.

Did you see my post that mentioned Henne, Reggie Bush, Matt Moore, Welker, and Brady as other winners with good attitudes who I am a fan of?

I am not a fan of racists who can't speak English such as Warren Sapp, Charles Barkley and Joey Porter.

I am not a fan of loudmouth azzhold Rex Ryan or the racist 4 time loser Cromartie either. But the Jets have someone smart in their FO and Tebow will help turn them around.

I'm not saying he will turn them around by throwing 40 TDs like Brady. Rather, he will turn them around with his attitude.

Slam, there is only one idiot posting here. Unfortunately, he posts often and under several names.

We have Draft Picks,

I don't think that is Timmy Couch, I might be wrong, but I think it's one of the other idiots

And yes, when the Jets play the Fins, I will be rooting for Timmy Tebow to smash people in the phucking mouth and score 6 TDs in those 2 games. I'll also root for Pouncey to have a good game.

Go Gators.

We have draft picks,

Interesting theory except, we don't have a QB!!! Until you fix this problem, all other matters are pedantic and inconsequential.

It's like spending your dollars to save your pennies.

Draft Tannehill at 8, then worry about your suporting cast the rest of this draft and next and the year after before deciding whether you need to spend another first round pick on a qb in 2015.

We Have Draft Picks, here is my philosophy:

Hold up. Actually, I have decided on a new approach. I am no longer a fan of teams. Rather, I'm a fan of individual players. I like guys with heart and winning attitudes. I am a fan of Chad Henne--who showed us last year that he had heart and a winning attitude. I wish him well and predict he will have a good career. I'm a fan of Reggie Bush. He has a winning attitude and is the hardest worker on the team. I'm a fan of Ricky Williams, the best teammate one could hope for.

I'm a fan of Tim Tebow, a winner who brings a winning effort to any team he is on. I'm a fan of Wes Welker and Tom Brady--winners who are gentlemen with winning attittudes.

I'm a fan of Matt Moore; he also showed us heart and a winning attitude. I'm a fan of David Gerrard, another winner with a great attitude.

I'm not a fan of thugs who can't speak English and who are racists, such as Warren Sapp and Joey Porter, who are perrenial losers (with a few exceptions) who literally cannot speak English yet are given a platform on national TV to spew their racist venom.

Ditto re: Charles Barkley, an admitted anti-white racist who also, after all his years on earth, is unable to speak English.

I'm not a fan of other crybaby thugs, such as Brandon Marshall--although he has shown heart at times and Channing Crowder, even though he was a Gator, and Cromarties, a 4-time loser who has humiliated himself by bashing Tebow.

"Maybe Ross is asking why the 2 teams with the best left tackles are also among the worst teams in the NFL. And if you don't even have a QB to PROTECT, then why the h*ll are you paying an arm and a leg for a stud left tackle.

I thought Long was expendable THIS Season. I wanted him used as trade bait for a trade-up or to get more draft picks or to get maximum return if there's even a chance of him walking next year.

Didn't Ireland see John Jerry playing LT those last 2 games? He looked like Jake Long to me.

But, then again, if we lost Jake Long, we'd have NO PROBOWLERS on the team (Soliai was a late addition, not initially on the ProBowl squad).

Sad when you're best player is a LT. But explains why your club is 6-10"

DC,

Excellent post. Long was the initial building block in Parcells' foundation but it means nothing unless your LT is protecting a franchise type QB which obviously hasn't happened. I like Matt Moore but let's not confuse a surprisingly good season with greatness.

And btw--there's NO WAY a Dolphin fan can say we didn't have a chance to get one b/c Andy Dalton was right in front of our face. As for Matt Ryan, I think he's overrated & I would have drafted Long as well.

Jake Long has barely (okay not even barely) managed to play for four good years. Maybe this business of not wanting Weedon at QB because he'd play 5-6 years at most is a bit silly.

Ireland!!!!!!!!

I'm not a Gator fan.I AM A CANES' FAN.The reason being why I didn't care for Tebow in college.But I can longer deny that Tim Tebow GETS IT DONE. BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. I don't like his kneeling but if a team wants to WIN Tebow is the answer.The jests will commit to him and will reward it.I know Jim Rome is burning over his precious Sanchez inevitable benching.In his words"Which is why I LOVE IT"!

We can't fault Our front office for being cautious with Jake Long.Hope he has a great season and We sign him to a longer term contract.

Orlando Pace set the bar for Left Tackles in the NFL. He was a true difference maker at the position and would be worthy of another #1 pick. Long as a #1 pick was adequate given the talent available however Atlanta is in a perennial position to advance deep into the playoffs. Hmmm I wounder what they did that year? No they did not draft a Center or a Guard or a WR or a RB... You might think Ireland would eventually get a clue as to what league he is managing in. Perhaps they will select another RB in the 2nd over the TOP QB available. Hmm I wonder when that was LOL Where is that other Ryan now I wonder?

Armando, cool the jet buddy. It's March 22nd. Why is there an urgency to get a long term deal done with Long? You answered your own question by talking about Long's health status and the uncertainty about revenues for this year. I think they'll wait to see how Long recovers and how his health holds up before doing anything. If his health is a question mark they'll likely franchise him next year and figure things out from there. Worst move they could make right now is sink millions into the guys on a long term deal and he can't stay healthy....and I like Jake Long. If it's $12 mil against the cap this year, then so be it.

Where's kndrly? He is normally here, so he says.

Long is so over-rated it's not even funny.

"Interesting theory except, we don't have a QB!!! Until you fix this problem, all other matters are pedantic and inconsequential.

It's like spending your dollars to save your pennies.

Draft Tannehill at 8, then worry about your suporting cast the rest of this draft and next and the year after before deciding whether you need to spend another first round pick on a qb in 2015."

In all honesty I don't know enough about Tannehill. If he's that good then Philbin & Sherman should lock Ireland in the bathroom come draft day. I trust our coaches a heck of a lot more when it comes to QB's & offense than him.

RG3,

Still waiting for Matt Ryan to win his first playoff game. Long and Ryan have won the excat same amount in four years....ZERO....and Ryan's had a crack at it every year except one. This guy has questions he needs to step up and answer....NOW.

Again the good folks of So Fla miss the point. At least the Falcons have a chance to advance in the playoffs... I truly weep for the future of this franchise and this city. The dumb index is WAY off the charts here.

Armando, you asked this question in a post last week and I would like to put it out there again. Can anyone explain to us Dolfans how a team that is coming off a 6-10 season and 3 straight losing seasons is this up against the salary cap?

Robert we should meet up

You into fondling each other?

Anyone want to buy my collection of thongs sniffed by Mark Sanchez? I really need the money!

RG3,

The Falcons have done well for themselves. Sure they're competitive but are they truly special on offense like GB??? I don't believe so. Matt Ryan is a pretty good QB but certainly not elite IMO. With Michael Turner & Tony Gonzalez getting older I think they've peaked. As for that trade to move up & take Julio Jones??? There's no way I would've given up what they gave up.

Home,

Time to take your meds......

Must be the heat and the water affecting all these good folks. Maybe more rain would help wash the dumb off...

Welcome to So Fla! We hope you enjoy your stay but Don't drink the Water LOL

Tim Tebow will play Peyton Manning for the AFC Championship title! The jests vs Elway's Broncos.
I PUT MY NAME ON IT!!!
Ozkar.

How can fans blindly stick up for Jeff Ireland? A man whose only claim to fame is asking a kid if his mother was a prostitute. He’s done a horrible job. His drafts have been terrible. Karlos Dansby hasn’t earned his money. Brandon Marshall was a fail, considering he was traded. And how can a team with NO superstars, have so little cap space? You can’t say you’re going to fulfill the teams quarterback needs, draft NO QB last year and then sign David Garrard and say you’re satisfied with the position. Also, notice how many are questioning Irelands character more than anything? He’s not a good person, wake up zombies.

Obviously they should've drafted Matt Ryan.

Ant, your right, Ireland a complete failure

This was BY FAR the most forgettable FA for the Dolphins in years.

If Ross trades Ireland to the Saints for a late 7th round pick (since Mickey Loomis is going to be suspended for the first half of the season) then I'd definitely crack the champagne.

wHAT DOES IT MATTER IF THEY EXTEND lONG'S CONTRACT? WE DON'T HAVE A Q.B. TO PROTECT ANY WAY.

I suspect Long will continue to have injuries and miss games. In any case Ireland failed to secure the left side in free agency. Not to speak of major holes to fill....not going anywhere anyhow. So, I say get an early round pick for him the first chance you get.

ralph ortega,
I agree with your Weeden comment. Miami has started 17 different QBs in 12 years...5 or 6 years with one QB would seem like an eternity of stability.

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