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Stephen Ross and Jeff Ireland in full effect

I apologize that I did not post this earlier this week because covering the NFL annual meeting and writing this column for the print edition of The Miami Herald  and this other column for the print edition of The Miami Herald made me lose focus. I apologize.

Allow me to recover:

Ross and Ireland made themselves available to the media this week. Here is everything they said in full effect:

Stephen Ross Opening Statement: “Good afternoon. A beautiful day. I thank you guys for coming and giving us this opportunity to talk to you and talk to our fans which I think is very important. It’s been great to know and I think we’ve all seen it in the last week or two how passionate our fans are. I think that’s the good news and the bad news. I think it’s great they are passionate. We have great fans in South Florida and we all have one thing in common, we all want to see a winning football team. I guess everybody has ideas how do you get there but I’m very excited the way things are going on. We’ve had a lot of changes as you know. We have a new football coach. I think he once said, I’ve been speaking to him…he said you know, I thought it’d be great here but it’s even better than I thought it would be. I’m really enjoying being here and I think he’s very excited about what he’s doing and the direction he feels he can take this team and the great energy he’s really brought to our whole organization. We’ve also made some changes in the business side and Mike Dee is doing a great job from that standpoint. I think we probably have the best organization that the Dolphins have had in a long time. So I’m very excited about that. It also gives us a great chance to really engage in our fans. The time is right so I’m open to any questions and Mike (Dee) and Jeff (Ireland) are here and they can chime in.”

(On how he addresses the concern that the fan believe the organization is in disarray) – “I don’t think all the fans feel that way. I think there probably hasn’t been enough communication with them. We’re going to engage in that a lot more. I feel that with the changes we’ve had, I mean if people look at it today and they say hey, you haven’t gone out and gotten major free agents that maybe people thought you might have had. We look it at we’re in the process. Free agency has a period to run. I don’t know if there are a lot of major names out there but there’s the draft. There’s a whole plan that we have set forth. Some things go well; some things don’t go as you would have like them to go. I think you know what I’m referring to from that standpoint with regard to Peyton Manning. We’re looking to really take this football team to a different level.”

(On what Brandon Marshall did to concern him to not be on the team) – “That’s history. We want to go on. We wish him the best. That’s really behind us. It was a trade. He wasn’t cut and we think we got fair value. We think the football team is better for it.”

(On the decision to call the fan) – “I’m a passionate fan as they are. And when you really realize someone’s passionate enough they are going to go out and protest that’s the kind of person I want to talk to. I asked Mike (Dee) to find out who the fans were, who I could talk to somebody who’s that passionate.”

(On if he thinks this team is a playoff team or rebuilding) – “We think we have a fine nucleus. I think we’re excited about where we’re going. Rome wasn’t built in a day. When I came in here how poor the team was performing I think it’s done better. We were all very disappointed…I was like everybody else with the start we had last year. You saw what happen; you see the nucleus of this team. They continue to fight and I think they surprised everybody. I don’t think anybody’s ever had a turn around the last part of the season with a miserable start that they had. I think it tells a lot about the team and the personnel that we have. I think certainly we know where there are some weaknesses. We are looking at that. We look to really correct that.”

(On Coach Philbin in his tenure thus far) – “He’s much better than I even thought. I was excited about him. I wanted a coach that really came from a winning organization. The energy he’s brought to that, the staff that he’s assembled and the plan that he has, I think you’re going to see a lot more energy from this organization. I think you’re going to like the offense that he has. We all talked about offense. Everybody was always asking me do I want to open it up a little bit. I think we got the guy who really put together the best offense in the NFL. I think it’s very exciting. I think we’re going to see an exciting brand of football. We certainly have pieces we need to put together.”

(On how concerned he is with the perception of his franchise right now) – “You always want to be concerned. You listen to it. That’s why I really want to engage the fans. That’s why I made the phone calls. I think it’s unfair but look winning really resolves all issues. It’s like we haven’t lost anything. We all knew where we were at the end of the season. We’ve made some major changes and we’ll continue to look to upgrade the team anyway we can.”

(On the heat his General Manager has taken) – “I think it’s unfair. I don’t like it. I don’t think Jeff (Ireland) likes it. I think it’s unfair. I think the ideas were the fact that we didn’t get Peyton Manning. I think the fact that we are right in the middle of the process. It’s an unfinished product and I think to judge him at this point in time is not the right thing to do by anybody.”

(On if he reached out to more than one fan or just the one fan so far) - “I spoke to two fans.”

(On his decision to change Tony Sparano and retain Jeff Ireland) - “I mean if you look at his past. I think he’s done a great job with the draft. He’s a great talent evaluator. He is somebody who is as hard working as anybody I’ve ever met. He’s as smart as they come with the football side. And I think the idea is what are you judging him on. I think that the team is certainly not the same team that it was when he started here. It’s a lot better. When people feel that you should be there, that’s when the greatest frustration always is. I think we’re a lot closer and you got to get the brakes but you play the game to win. I mean, I’m interested in winning football games.”

(On how to excite the fans and getting a franchise quarterback) - “Well we’re going to keep looking certainly for upgrading that. I’m very excited about Matt Moore. We got so many people that really liked what Matt Moore did last year and I think as he got more experience the team got better. That’s a good place to start with and if we could continue that, that’d be great. There’s a lot of good personnel on that team.”

(On if there a miscalculation on the interest level that Peyton Manning would have in the Dolphins) - “I felt like a lot of people, I met with his father earlier in December. We spoke about it. He loves South Florida. I think it came down to he wanted be placed where he didn’t know anybody in our house. He wanted to be comfortable. He’d been at two teams his whole life and I think he judged it based on the fact where he would feel most comfortable where he had familiar faces around him. Because that’s what he was used to. But you know we gave it a big effort. He was the only franchise quarterback out there that we saw and what he could do for that team. Look it.. I went after him. If I didn’t go after him I wouldn’t be interested in really winning. I want to win today not tomorrow. It didn’t happen.”

(On how much he has learned in the last three years about being an NFL owner) - “It’s a real experience. I’ve had more owners come up to me and say hey, I didn’t know what was going on for four or five years once you step in there. This is a different business. You can succeed in business. It’s a lot easier to do that then it is, and it’s not that easy to do that in these times, but it’s difficult to really win. You know what players you want but that doesn’t mean you can get them. And there are a lot of things that are just out of your control. We’re all competitive as hell and I haven’t lost in many things and I’m not planning on losing here.”

Jeff Ireland:

(On if he should not have been as powerful in saying he was going to address the quarterback situation) - “I don’t have any second thoughts on trying to address the quarterback position. I made it very clear that quarterback position needs to play better for us to have the ultimate success. I think we have addressed the quarterback position. There was in our estimation, there was one franchise quarterback out there that became available. We took a shot at him. We didn’t sit on the sideline hoping and wishing. We went after him. We didn’t achieve that goal. Other than that I think a lot is to be said about Matt Moore and what he was able to accomplish last year with limited, no OTA’s, limited training, limited knowledge of the offseason. He finished us 6-9. I have a great respect. I have a lot of confidence in Matt Moore. The second part of the plan if we didn’t achieve the Peyton Manning aspect was to provide a competitive atmosphere at the quarterback position to raise the play of the quarterback position. We felt like we’ve done that. We weren’t going to be reckless and go after players that we didn’t definitively think can beat out Matt Moore. We weren’t going to do that. We want to provide competitive environment at the quarterback position to raise the game of either Matt Moore or the competitor and we feel like we’ve done that with a seasoned veteran. A guy that’s been started a lot of games in this profession. I feel like he’s got a lot left. So we feel good where we are at the quarterback position at this time.”

(On the scrutiny that’s been coming his way) - “Comes with the job. It’s not my first time to have a little adversity. I think adversity is the companion of a champion or the enemy of the weak. So I believe in that. With responsibility becomes visibility and you know like Steve (Ross) said we have some passionate fans, as passionate as any place I’ve ever been. They have a right to voice their opinion and we’ve got to do a better job of communicating with our fans and making sure that we’re a little bit more transparent of what we’re trying to get accomplished. Steve’s made that point as well and we’re going to try to do that. But at the end of the game it’s about finding football players and winning games. And right now we’re in the finding football process and five months from now we’ll be winning, hopefully winning games.”

(On the final plan) - “Well I am not going to get into exactly what the plans are, we’re right in the middle of free agency. We’re trying to prepare for the draft fellas. And we’re trying to attack our musts. I think we did a pretty good job of retaining Paul Soliai which was a must. Keeping the inside front for the most part intact. We felt like upgrading the secondary was a position of need for us, the cornerback position. So we addressed that need. We’re going to continue to attacking our musts whether it be from a depth perception. We needed depth at the offensive line. We needed some more special teams players. So we’re addressing some of those. Maybe not all musts. There’s several needs and wants but we’re keeping our philosophy intact and that’s going after value in free agency and continuing to build through the draft.”

Stephen Ross:

(On Tim Tebow becoming available and if he considered bringing him here) - “We’ll I talked to the coach. He didn’t really fit our system and you’re not going to bring someone in just to sell seats. Therefore we kind of dismissed that early on because the coach has an idea where he wants to take this team and how it’s going to perform and you get players who can really fit in that system and Tim Tebow didn’t fit in that system.”

(On extending players’ contracts) - “Let me tell you, money will never be an issue for us becoming a winning football team that I can tell you right now. We have to live with the limitations of the salary cap as all teams do. Sometimes, you lose players. You have to put your money where you really think it’s going to make the biggest impact. But I think we have a lot of players expiring and we got to make sure we don’t make stupid mistakes by signing players with big names, with big salary bonuses that are really going to impact the cap. So you have to take that into consideration. The one thing I’ve learned in response to your question is this is one hell of a complex business. I got to tell you (laughing). Trying to figure out how you’re going to do things and maneuver things around within this system. And I think that’s very important and certainly those players that we know that are coming up we all know we want to retain them. We have to make sure we’re in a position to do that.”

Jeff Ireland:

(On having a capable right guard and right tackle starters now on the roster) - “Well, like I said, we added some depth with Artis Hicks. I think he’s started somewhere along the line of 70 games in his career. He’s certainly something we needed to address more depth at the tackle position. We got John Jerry returning. We got Nate Gardner returning. We got Ryan Cook returning. We got some other young players there that have some upside so we feel fairly good at that position. But we’re going to continue to address the offensive line needs. That’s one must that we’re going to continue to do.”

Stephen Ross:

“One of the great things when we were interviewing with Coach (Joe) Philbin was his emphasize on developing players and teaching technique and I think this is important. I think you’re going to see these players develop better than they have been in the past. I really have a lot faith in his ability and his belief that we have a good nucleus that he can develop to be a winning football team.”

(On Coach Joe Philbin’s development of players impact not signing big name free agents) - “Absolutely, it’s always better to do that. I think if at examples that we all look at clearly after evaluating him with what Green Bay has done. We should only get there. Question is; it starts this year. It’s great, but certainly it’s the best way to go. The best teams are really built through the draft. We want consistency here. I don’t want to come in one year and say hey we won it and back being below a .500 team. I want to be in the playoffs every year. I want to be in the hunt and you’re going to do that with consistency. You’re going to do that in the draft. You’re going to do that by being smart and having the right people there. I think we’re building a nucleus of that.”

(On not getting your first option as far as coaches and players) - “You know what, I’ll do it again and again. I’m going to be bold and you know what you don’t lose for trying. And if I could find the right guy, I’m going to be bold and getting him. I can’t worry about losing because nothing ventured, nothing gained.”

Jeff Ireland:

(On not trading up for the #2 pick in the draft, were you in the conversation) - “We had early conversations with them. I don’t want to get into depth of what we were willing to give up to obtain that pick. We had some early conversations with them, yeah.”

Stephen Ross:

(On Cleveland willing to match that amount) - “I don’t want to say that what we did because we didn’t.”

Jeff Ireland:

(On talking about the Washington Redskin trading up for the #2 draft pick) -“That’s up to them. That’s the Washington Redskins and we’re the Miami Dolphins. And we got to conduct business the way we feel that’s right way to do business.”

Stephen Ross:

(On players comments about the Miami Dolphins) - “I know one player that did that. You’re always going to find somebody that’s going to say something for whatever reason. Players might say that because they were dropped. They didn’t make the team. Other players came here and we didn’t meet their salary demands. People always want to say something because they like being in the spotlight often times. I know one thing, this is probably the best place in the NFL to play football and it will never stop us from getting another player in this organization. Players will want to play for this organization. The reputation that Coach (Joe) Philbin has and what he’s going to attract here and what we’re doing. I wouldn’t go with what one or two people might say.”

A Statement to the fans from Stephen Ross

“I would just want to thank the really good fans. We’re going to be engaging with you a lot more the fans. I think you’re going to see a different organization. You saw what we did here when we visited newspapers. We’re going to be a lot more responsive and I think you’re going to see that in the future.”


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but Hey like Brittany Spears says: "I think we should always do whatever the President tells us to do. He is on the inside and will make the right decision so we all should just trust him" right...

Great logic there Brittany!

You in the hoodie!

Where you think your going!

Ahh I was wondering when the "fans" who don't live here would chime in...

So it's height that makes a good OLB? I think Jerome Harrison at 6'0" would have something to say about that.

But don't take me for it. Go back and do your homework idiot. The LSU Alabama game is available on the three. See for yourself oh yee with small memory and even smaller ....

You going to the Fire Jeff Ireland Protest!

I dont think so, You leave the racist GM Jeff Ireland alone!

If David Garrard is addressing your QB position, then you're really not intending to EVER go to the Playoffs again.

Posted by: DC Dolfan | March 29, 2012 at 09:59 AM

DC, last year you said worse about Moore, and you begrudgingly had to admit you were way off. Could you be repeating the same mistake?

Not defending or praising Garrard, but if Philbin and Sherman found him a better asset than Flynn, that is good enough for me. They like the way he throws the ball and they like his attitude. Are they lying? Are they saying that to please the fans? Or, do they feel his experience and skills was genuinely a good catch?

I'm going to get you because you are black and I am WHITE

(ok i'm really Hispanic, but let's get after the WHITE race that will make better headlines)

No Dolphin Talk today Ohio?

Home....stop it with the white/black thing already, nobody cares.

Ahh I was wondering when the "fans" who don't live here would chime in...

Posted by: RG3 | March 29, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Okay RG3 you can officially EAD.

Feel free to take your sense of entitlement and place it where the sun don't shine!

Lets find the Dolphins shirts at the Bama pro day. I bet we don't see one!

I'm going to try to get another post up soon thavafin........swamped at work this morning. I'll probably pop something up at lunch.......

why do you ask?

I love how these guys (Ireland and Ross) keep saying oh we still have the draft, just wait for the draft, you fans will be real pleased with our draft, but no we can't comment on it, it is a secret. Its like they have this monster plan that is going to blow the fans mind. Like they are going to pull a blockbuster trade and move to the 1 or 2 spot. Hey Ross, Ireland wake up the blockbuster trade to move up was already done by washington, plus picking 8th is terrible, we too high to draft the top two QBs possible top 3, too high to draft the top WR (Blackmon) and too high to draft best lineman (Kali). The dolphins screwed the fans by winning at the end of the season, if they would have continued losing we would have been in position to draft a franchise Qb. No but these morons want to keep telling us to be patient because the draft is coming up. These guys dont have the best track record for the fans to be confident that this draft will make us forget about there terrible inept free agency period. What are these guys smoking because I want some too!

Because I am curious like a cat, that's why they call me Whiskers.

NHFINSFAN, I think home is at the Fire Jeff Ireland Protest March today in Davie, Fl.

Besides isn't home black?

Im sure many of you will be jizzing in your pants after you hear how Tannehill "wow" everyone at his pro day.

We dont need good players we have a new system.


would you eat the moon if it were made of cheese?

That's right RG3 ... wonder how the protest is going or if Ross and Ireland will show up today?

Tannehill? 3rd round pick and that is what he is worth. He isn't going to turn the world around just because the Phins pick him at 8.

We have 2 picks in the 3rd round. Anyone want to bet we draft a qb in the 3rd round?

Can you guys quit screaming for another Brady Quinn? I thought this stuff was all done. I am thinking they have a plan and that is continue building the team through the draft. That has worked very well for Green Bay. They also have like 14 picks this year. Compared to most other teams 6 picks. They have 14 chances to find a good to great acorn. Acorns, by the way that cost nothing. Acorns start with the Phins until the Phins are done with them. Acorns that play their butts off so they can a big contract and suck the life out of the other team.
Simply keep building the team. I kick myself for supporting the Brandon Marshall trade but they got a little back for him. But the peed away 12 million or so of cap money. Retarded.

41phish, no offesnce but this team needs more quality and not quanity. We already have plenty of solid players, we need difference makers and quite honestly need to draft in the top ten of the draft for at least one more year even if things go perfectly in this year's draft.

RG3, did insulting me make you feel better or make you look incapable of getting involved in debate?

And where did I say that outside linebackers at 6'1 definitely could play or had no shot at playing? I just said that there are a lot of examples of players in that position at that stature struggling in the NFL because of their lack of arm length.

Go back, read my post and understand it. I just there is risk with him just like there is risk with almost any other player slotted to go at 8th or lower. Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong point. This remedial class for you was free, the next one costs.


What's up guys?

I haven't checked in for a few weeks frankly because there is nothing to say. Miami does have the draft but look at this roster. I mean just look at the offense and the lack of talent.

QB - Matt Moore, David Garrard
RB - Reggie Bush, Daniel Thomas
WR - Brian Hartline, Davone Bess, Clyde Gates and no one else worth mentioning. Well Gates isn't either.
TE - Anthony Fasano, Charles Clay

I know we all know the players but the expression "paper champs or looks good on paper" doe not apply here. Miami's roster has no threat or explosive proven player to speak of. I think its clear Miami is in rebuilding mode and need players to fit the system but at present time there isn't much to talk about other then draft speculation.

This team presently stinks!

Mark in Toronto
Can you guarantee a playmaker can come in and make plays in a new system, with players that he is not used too. I have seen too many players fail in a system that they were not used too. There are no perfect answer but the teams that build with the draft are in the hunt year in and year out. They plug a hole or two but the draft is their strength.

Come on!!! Stephen Ross are you retarded???
He says that "Jeff Dumberland is somebody who is as hard working as anybody he has ever met". Stephen Ross may be you need to met MORE PEOPLE!!
May be this decrepite old man, have the idea to build a winning team, but he doesn´t has any idea to how made it!!!! build a Winning franchise only with the DRAFT??? come on the Miami Dolphins had a legacy we´re not an expantion team!!! Ross You a-s-s-h-o-l-e!!

Blow me Mark in Toronto!

You suck!



Let's visit this board!

The dolphins legacy was built through the draft. They did not have free agency back then.


we definitely need quality but who is it @ #8? tannehill, coples? the studs will be gone so why overpay for a QB that is very likely to be there 6 or 7 picks later? even if Cleveland sneaks in ahead of our tradedown then take osweiler or cousins as your QB.the big o was talking packers yesterday and here is what he said:jennings & nelson=2nd round;finley=3rd round;driver=7th round so quality can be had if you pick smart(big IF for jeffy)









..In your heart of hearts. Does anyone here expect this team to be any better then a 5 or 6 win team next year? At a glance that is what we have right now. Of course I don't know this as the absolute. But my gut feeling says to me that the personel on this team today is a below 500 team..How is that success in the minds of those who give their support to the GM?

It is very apparant that the team is rebuilding. It is apparant we are tearing down the structure and starting with a new blueprint...We are going to build from within..Great.

IMO this is the right thing to do. The problem is that this franchise has done it repeatidly over and over for the better part of the decade..I guess odds are on our side, eventually if you keep trying you will find success. Or something like that. I'm not going to Rip Ireland, I'm not going to rip Ross. It does no good, and frankly it is in my best interest to see both men do well. They are selling something to the fan base that is akin to snake oil...Will the fan base, and more importantly the players buy in and continue to be patient? I'm not sure. The tides may be turniing for this franchise..I just expect that next year may be the Red Tide, before the ocean calms down and we can enjoy a nice swim.

We have draft picks,

Is that my long lost bud WHP? Is it? Been worried about you man. If it's you, please answer me.

Alan, definitely agree with your philsophy. Building a winner definitely needs to be done through the draft.

Andy, hadn't seen you in a while. I know you do mocks from time to time or I think you mentioned it on here.

I did a couple different ones on nfldraftfan.com. 2 different scenarios. I will probably do a few more before it is over.

They are Miami only and 7 rounds. Check it out when you have a chance and let me know what you think.

41phish, Green Bay also has a bunch of first round studs. Raji, Matthews, Rodgers (who was rated the #1 or #2 player in the draft for a while), Hawk, etc, etc.

I think IF the Dolphins think Tannehill is the guy then draft him at #8, don't mess around. Cleveland will be lurking, so will KC, and Arizona.

Other than Tannehill and Blackmon, the rest of these guys between 7-15 are interchangeable. So if both these players are gone by 8, then trade down a bit, fine, but not too far.


i think we do ok in 2012 because of the weak schedule.with a little luck maybe 8-10 wins.(bills-jets-jags-titans-raiders-seahawks-rams @ home and colts-cards on the road are all possible wins).i like the new coach & his philosophy. i think 2013 will be tougher then 2012 because we will play our way into a tougher schedule. i hope the new QB is ready to compete in 2013 and by 2014 we are back on top for a long time to come

".....Other than that I think a lot is to be said about Matt Moore and what he was able to accomplish last year with limited, no OTA’s, limited training, limited knowledge of the offseason. He finished us 6-9. I have a great respect. I have a lot of confidence in Matt Moore."

6-9??? WTF does that mean??? Does Ireland even know how many games are in a season????

The more I read from him & our illustrious owner the more I think they are completely full of sh#t.

Hey! We have draft picks! IS that you WHP?

"...There’s several needs and wants but we’re keeping our philosophy intact and that’s going after value in free agency and continuing to build through the draft.”

Ha!!! The philosophy of losing??? Awesome. Great job so far guys.

By the way, Scouts Inc. Mock v4 released today has Tannehill going to Miami at #8 and Weeden going to Cleveland at #37.

I see these two teams ending up with these two quarterbacks too. They could esaily be flip flopped too.

For what it's worth.


it will be fun to watch.a definite nailbiter. i just pray i dont hear "with the 8th pick the dolphins take riley reiff" if they do then i suggest jeff install a window so he can escape thru it when the fans storm his office.


Are you the formerly revered WHP?

One last time, and then I'm out bro.

Mark in Toronto are you going to the Protest tofire Jeff Ireland???

Or are you too cheap??? Just another cheap no-it-nothing Canadian w a big mouth???

a1Pish...I agree....Tannehill is nothing special....he is an ugly 2nd rder....who just got more popular because the cool gitls went to another party....

Where's Home at the Dolphin stadium protesting?

WHP -- you are missed, just check out the posts today.

Hey! We have draft picks! IS that you WHP?

Hey Mike,

Yep in the flesh. Had to change the name from "Playmakers" to "Draft Picks" you realize. LOL!!! Hope you're doing well.

Although I didn't think it was possible I'm more upset with our team than ever. I just started posted here when the whole Peyton Manning train came through town. No arguments with anyone on here thus far. I just post & run.

Hey Stanger,

I'm good bro. Just been working a lot. Too much sometimes. How about yourself??? You doing alright???


We miss you man, and I mean all of us, and sincerely. Good to see you are still alive, and I also mean that sincerely. Come on back to the SS, a whole lot of folks there would be real happy to see you.

I'm praying we get this draft right. I want them to take Tannehill, at #8. Then get us some playmaking WR's, TE and a pass rusher, and I'll be happy as can be!

ismael (Home), why would I go to a protest I don't support?

I'm cool WHP. Even if this fits in to your life with all your hard work....no reason you can't go "both ways" when you get the urge. It's the modern age -- nothing wrong with that at all. :)

..41 Phins. I am not be synical. I am trying to be objective. The only thing I am looking at right now is our roster today. Of course things will change. And nobody knows what any of the teams we have on our home schedule will look like, or how they will be playing come game time...Our Phins included.

I'm just saying 4 or 5 wins off what our roster looks like right now. I'm not sure we win more then 2 of those games.. We definitley are behind Seattle talent wise. Tennessee, Oakland, and even though we crushed them twice last year the Bills. The jets are in turmoil which is great, the jags ???, and the Rams have an opportunity to greatly improve. Seriously, If the games were handicapped today. Would we be Home favorites in more then 3 of these games??

I realize that this is a lot of maybes. We have the opportunity, like all the teams abobve to also improve. We are just way behind the 8 ball on the talnet side to really believe that a group of rookies in this draft are going to save the day, and magically change the culture here overnight.. That is a lot to expect out of a draft class..Add last years to that mix if you want.. I'm just looking at the players we have now, and trying to wrap my head around where we are going to be better then last year. I can't see it.

whp. this place is a zoo and it's not all football all of the time which keeps most sane on here.

41phish, I'm with you. Plenty of right tackle candidates on the roster and free agency and if they blwo the 8th pick on Reiff or any other lineman, I will just give up.

Mark in Toronto


Mirror Mirror, I think you're way off on that one. Plus you've used the "you said the same about Moore" line before, and it wasn't that great of a comeback then.

I'll repeat, Moore IS a .500 QB (last year and historically). If that's elite talent to you, you're free to believe what you want. Most unbiased observers disagree.

Second, on Garrard, you must know something more than me. I haven't read anywhere Philbin liked Garrard better than Flynn. I have read they weren't sure if Flynn could beat out Moore for the starting spot, and they didn't want to overpay for a guy who could be the backup. Garrard came cheaper, for a 1 year deal, which to me doesn't sound like a guy the FO has faith in (or else why not give him a longer contract). He's a 1-yr stopgap, the last available option to get someone with experience to compete with Moore this Season (this was a case of having to sign anyone, and it happened to be Garrard, not going out and signing a guy you really had been targeting).

To answer your question though, sure I could be wrong. Moore could turn out to be Peyton Manning. Garrard could turn out to be the best QB on this team since Marino. If that's what you want to believe, again, it's a free country. But those crickets you hear behind you is pretty much everyone else in the WORLD having another opinion.

My belief is in 2-3 years, just like Henne, just like 15-16 other QBs, both these guys will be off the team and another set of QBs will be trying to prove they are the long-term answer.

time will tell Darryl. i also hope this coaching staff,like the patsies, plays the rookies. if you are correct in your win-loss assesment then what do we have to lose. too often sparano let guys languish on the bench(moore,wallace,gates,hilliard,clay,jerry)or he didn't use them properly(like bush & thomas in the passing game or an underused hartline or clay).the only way for these guys to get better is to play.no matter what they say they are rebuilding and we the fans know it.i am willing to give the philbin/ireland combo 3 years before i go off the deep end

Ross save the Dolphins. SELL THE TEAM!

thavafin, thanks, that's my girl....

Obviously she doesn't know that pick is up, haha

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