Would Dolphins trade up for Tannehill?

Talk around the hallways of the Breakers Hotel during the NFL annual meeting this week included whispers of the Cleveland Browns wanting to trade down from their perch at No. 4 in the coming NFL draft. That talk was confirmed when Cleveland general manager Tom Heckert, a former Dolphins personnel man, told the Cleveland Plain Dealer he would consider trading down.

"We're not trading up, I guarantee that," Heckert said. "There's going to be five guys that we really like and we're going to get a really good player at number four. But we could still get a really good player at five, six, seven, eight too."

You must note that Heckert included No. 8. That is the position the Dolphins currently hold and the one where Miami may feel a need to improve upon. The thinking among some league people is that Miami is desperate to draft a quarterback and Ryan Tannehill will be the target.

And rather than wait to pick the Texas A&M player at No. 8, there is a possibility the Dolphins might show some desperation and trade up to get him. Thus, Heckert could be setting the Dolphins up for that deal by talking it up.

Here's the problem: Few people believe Tannehill is a value at No. 8, much less one at No. 4. So the Dolphins, who have so far refused to overpay for a handful of quarterbacks under general manager Jeff Ireland, would be positioning themselves to overpay for Tannehill.

Now, overpay is a relative term. The Dolphins might believe Washington giving up three first-round picks plus other considerations for Robert Griffin III is overpaying. I think it's a great move. GREAT! If you've read this blog for any amount of time, you know I love RG3 and think that was the move the Dolphins needed to make instead of chasing Peyton Manning.

But perhaps the Dolphins have a great feel about Tannehill considering offensive coordinator Mike Sherman was Tannehill's head coach at A&M. Maybe they know something. So maybe they really, really want to make sure they get the player.

I suppose the Dolphins would have to consider getting to No. 4 to ensure their ability to get their guy. Maybe that's the case, but I definitely hope and pray they stand their ground and stay at No. 8.

The truth is the Browns are really the only team ahead of Miami that might take him. Indianapolis is taking Andrew Luck at No. 1. Washington is taking RG3 at No. 2. Minnesota isn't taking a QB there because they drafted Christian Ponder last year in the first round. Tampa Bay at No. 5 doesn't need a QB. Neither does St. Louis at No. 6 -- proven by the fact they passed on a chance for RG3. And I am certain the Jaguars are commited to Blaine Gabbert this year so they're not drafting Tannehill at No. 7.

That only leaves Cleveland as a possibility for Tannehill. And the Browns are willing to drop. Heckert is bluffing the Dolphins, people. I think it will be interesting to see if Heckert and a large Cleveland contingent are at Tannehill's Pro Day Thursday.

Usually that would signal a significant interest by a team in a player. I would expect that's exactly what the Browns would like to show they have in Tannehill to make Miami nervous.

Don't be nervous, Miami -- at least not about Cleveland.

Now the Dolphins might be concerned teams behind them might want to trade up to take Tannehill. The Chiefs at No. 11 need a quarterback and might want to pull ahead of Miami for a chance at Tannehill. That seems to be the only team likely to threaten Miami in this scenario.

So are St. Louis, Tampa or Jacksonville willing to drop back to 11? I guess it depends on their board and the compensation offered. I find it hard to believe KC GM Scott Pioli would pay too much for the chance to move up four to six spots to take Tannehill.

And why do I say this? I guess it boils down to the player not the move. Frankly, I don't see Tannehill as a top 10 player. I think he might go that high. But I think the reason would be because he's a quarterback, the NFL is a QB league, and somebody might be desperate enough to overdraft him.

I just hope that as far as flying up to No. 4 overall, it's not the Dolphins.

Comments

[Professor Lou]

Let's see. There were 2 yes's and 539 no's.

[Dz Nuts]

If we don't trade back in the first I think we are going pass rusher at 8. This could certainly help our secondary as well.

[professional]

if our qb situation with garrard and moore fails the bright side is we should have a fair chance at barkely. if garrard or moore succeeds then great. either way we should be happy fans by at least next April. the only way to screw this up is to be average again next year and not make the playoffs and be out of reach again for the the 3 top qb's(Barkely, ?, ?)

[professional]

so either win it all or lose it all. we cant keep being mediocre

[amsmith965]

Doesn't matter now. They had a chance to change the franchise with RG3 and didn't have guts or commen sense to do that. Therefore the year is ruined. Irrelevant now

[Tim in Tampa]

04/26/2012 can't get here fast enough!

Other questions include:

Has Mark Colombo been cut yet?

Will Jerome Messam get a shot at displacing Daniel Thomas as a starter?

Can we move Reshad Jones to Strong Safety?

Will we draft Sean Smith's replacement?

[amsmith965]

Watch, the skins will be in the SB within 3 years. We will still be saying "we didn't sell the farm" , still won't have a QB and still won't have a clie

[oscar canosa]

Well, that rookie QB has very quick feet. Regarding decision making and accuracy I'm not so sure. They should know.

[oscar canosa]

They are looking at Osweiler now.

[Homey D Clown]

the Dolphins SUCK

Period

[oscar canosa]

You know, most of the players Ireland drafted last year fit the WC offense right down to the FA Pat Devlin, he of the weak arm and great accuracy. Coincidence, huh?

[Homey D Clown]

Armando

Stop the sucking

Love
Home

[jets retard]

Can't really blame the trolls for not wanting to visit the jets blog, can we?

[oscar canosa]

Too much negative element here, Armnando. Apparently this blog attracts the least educated People in Miami which by that same upbringing tend to be aggressive and pessimisric. But what can we do?

[oscar canosa]

Armando.

[NY "G"]

Would Dolphins trade up for Tannehill?

GOD I pray NOT...

If we trade up for anyone I would for WR Justin Blackmon.

Draft Blackmon and walk away with at least a Play maker. Spend the rest on the never ending rebuilding of the O and D but at least i would feel good about something positive with Blackmon.

Remember... The Rex and Pats are aggressive enough and have enough ammo to move in and grab Blackmon.

Also..

Since the Dolphins couldn't even Suck enough for Luck and get that right, in 2013 how about BARKING for BARKLEY.

[Cardfin27]

This is absurd taking this kid so high at 8 not to mention trading up. He has only 16 starts and not to mention he was a WR his fresh and soph yrs. U wanna talk a about a project that's what this would be, top 10 picks arent supposed to be projects. Dumb move Miami if u go thru with it.

[NY "G"]

HERE IS MY DREAM...

The POS Tuna Parcells who the media is slobbering over the slob as always, goes to the Saints...

Wouldn't it be nice if we woke up and read that parcells and Jeff THE SCOUT Ireland are united again?

There's no place like home, There's no place like home, There's no place like home...

[oscar canosa]

So I guess you are Home also, NYG.

[odinseye]

Cleveland aint giving up #4 for a 2nd rd'er. Believe that! Nice fantasy though. LOL

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone | March 28, 2012 at 05:08 PM

Come on now, that's not what I said.

There's no franchise QB's on the Board at 4. That means ANYBODY swapping with Cleveland can do it cheaper.

The kicker is, if they traded us, they would only slide down 4 slots, pick up a 2nd rounder and still land a top ten talent.

I mean, unless you're one of the people that think teams will be beating down the door to trade up for Tannehill-lol.

Think about it the other way around. Could you picture Ireland trading down from 4th to 8th and picking up a 2nd?

[oscar canosa]

I know YG is Home; is odin talking to himself?

[odinseye]

Skins gave up 3 1st and a 2nd rd pick to go from #6 to #2. Yet poor Odinseye think we can go from #8 to #4 only giving up a single 2nd rd'er. LOL

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone | March 28, 2012 at 05:11 PM

Ok Einstein, name the talent that will be available at 4 that makes you think ANYBODY will give up MORE than the 8th and 40th picks for?

I'll be waiting I'm sure.

Ah..........Luck is alledgedly the most and best NFL ready prospect to come out in years. Some, Super Bowl winning Head Coaches included, believe RGIII to be even better.

So Gerbil Breath, the only reason Washington paid so much is because they bought one of the most highly considered Blue Chip, can't miss Franchise QB's to come out in years and years!

Tell me, who else, left at no 4, will garner ANYTHING anywhere near this? It ain't happening.

Again, name the talent that you think will still be on the board that some team will trade multiple 1st rounders for. Just ONE name Eistein?

Come ON!

[ion]

All of you only make yourselves look stupid thinking anyone is going to trade up to 4 for Tannehill. You are all the same ones who swallowed the media hype that Flynn would be the second hottest free agent. Yes, you, the same folks ripping Irelands for looking for acorns, were hell bent on Ireland overpaying for another acorn.

[oscar canosa]

No need ro get impatient, there are plenty of good Players available at # 8. OL's, lB's, etc.

[B33RCA53]

LOL Brandon Weeden FTW

[Phins78]

Can't stop laughing about this one. Does the brunch club realize Ireland won't be at his office tomorrow when they are protesting across the street? Ireland will be at Tannehills pro day and nowhere near the facilities. Great planning guy. Lol, maybe you dummies should have asked someone who is smarter than a rock to plan this little shindig? Which radio host is doing this again? What a bunch of morons.

[B33RCA53]

The only reason getting Tannehill makes sense is if they are targeting him becuz of Sherman's intimate knowledge of the kid. Brandon Weeden is arguably a better QB then all of the QBs available. His only knock is his age. If you want the best arm Weeden is the pick the question is when do you pick him. I think he is surely a top 41 pick there is slim to no chance at all he will be there at 42...

[Ohio Dolfan]

Thanks to all the contributors to the blog today. Lots of good conversation!

Great stuff in there, and the flocks came without needing to advertise today.

Good stuff, you guys are awesome.

[ion]

B33RCA53

Please state your credentials to show us how you know who is a better QB between Tannehill and Weeden? Or, are you just regurgitating the media hype you've read on the few popular draft dick sites? I thought so.

[Nick N]

Fellow Dolphin Brothers! I am telling you I know football. I am sorry to say that most of you are missing the boat on Tannehill. He is worthy, in fact he is going to be better than RG3 and Luck combined. He throws as hard as flacco but with accuracy. Runs faster than Cam Newton and Luck. And is smart enough to be a doctor. He has a super quick release but the ball is so fast anyway out of his hand. If we don't get this guy we will all regreat it worse than not gettting Brees. I would trade up I don't care if we look like idiots at this point. I just want Tannehill at all costs. You will see what I am talking about next year.

[Ohio Dolfan]

ion,

isn't that the point of all of these conversations though, to speculate what might happen? RG3 or Luck could struggle their entire career.....we have no idea yet.

That's the fun of it, to debate what might happen right?

[husketeer]

Sherman knows Tannehill better than Mayock, Kiper or any other draftnik. If he believes he's the guy to work this offense having already worked in the WC offense under......Sherman then if it needs a trade up then I say do it. Just watch his game against Baylor where he outplayed RG3 to see his potential. If they pass on him again you trust Sherman's insight that he is not worth the pick, go get Cousins later.
If they take Tannehill and he isn;t working out, next year move him to WR and get in position for Barkley or one of the other top rated QB's. Bottom line, until we have our franchise QB draft one every year!!!!

[ion]

Debate yes, fine. But to blindly state you know who is better when you have no information from any GM, scout, teammate or player and are just regurgitating the media hype, that just promotes more hype and has no value.

Example, the only reason some are pissed we didn't offer Flynn more $ is because the media let those sheep to believe he was the hottest FA after Peyton. I have no inside information, but my guess is had Philbin been higher on Flynn, the offer would have been higher as well. Seattle reports that Flynn may not even start there. I'd just like to keep the debates to debates and opinions rather than false claims of knowledge based on some web article written by some clueless pundit who gets paid to write and meet deadlines.

[oscar canosa]

True for ion.

[ion]

Even though most people realize they shouldn't believe everything they read, they still believe almost everything they read. The media is powerful. People tend to believe if it is in print, it must be true. People tend to believe anyone who is a writer or on tv must be more knowledgeable than them.

[Ohio Dolfan]

Point taken ion. The media looks for ratings more than anything

[oscar canosa]

I look at film of all the players I am interested in. But with QB's is very difficult for me to figure out who will transition well into the NFL.

[ion]

GM's are more secretive than the CIA. If they are passing out information, even through unnamed sources, the greater chance is that information is smokescreen. The very last thing they would do is give anyone a clue as to there true intentions. So these pundits really have no more idea what any team will do than we do. At all times, you must remember, they are there for entertainment purposes only, and to keep people coming back to their site for updates.

[ion]

oscar, GM's at best hit on half their picks or less, so even they have a very hard time figuring out which players will transfer well to the NFL.

[oscar canosa]

Another + for ion.

[B33RCA53]

I watched almost every single game Brandon Weeden played in college. He is the real deal. Your one of those guys that just listens to mock drafts to evaluate which is better. I go by actually watching the games and then i reevaluate, simple. I don't claim to be an expert on anything not even my own profession but rather it's my opinion. not some hyped guess...

[B33RCA53]

If you need something to go off of though just compare Weeden's stats to any of the other top 3 QBs available and his are better in almost every category. He played in the same division as RGIII and Tannehill and beat Luck in the bowl game.

[B33RCA53]

Brandon Weeden FTW

[Irescum Blowz]

Would Dolphins trade up for Tannehill? Well, you got the same moron drafting that gave 3 picks for D Thomas.

[B33RCA53]

Also I think all four of the QBs i mentioned are going to be good. My choice would be Weeden.

[Homey D Clown]

Lil limp dick armando

Home is the Big Boy On the Block
Get Used To It!

[Homey D Clown]

Tebow & The Jets

Fish Suck

period

[Scotty]

Steve Ross, how bout some good news for a change. Like Ireland's fired.

[Homey D Clown]

Reach Out Jerk Me off Dolfans !!!!

Jets Rules!

Tebow Rules!

Sparano Rules!

[ion]

So ask yourself, why is it nobody has Weeden going in the first round and yet its a lock RG3 and Luck will be gone after pick 2? Is your evaluation superior to those who have direct contact with the coaches and scouts and players?

Quarterbacks don't beat quarterbacks, that is another media misnomer, they don't play against each other, they play against the other teams defense. Tebow beat Rothlisberger in the playoffs, do you think Tebow is a better QB than Roth?

I believe your logic is flawed.

[Homey D Clown]

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[Homey D Clown]

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[NJPHINFAN]

My AZZZZZZZZZZZZZ is so tight when HOME speaks!

[NJPHINFAN]

Mommy this plce is nuts! I gotta Go! Now mommy!

[B33RCA53]

Weeden may be in the first round and the only reason he isn't a lock at 1 or 2 is his age. If he were 23 he'd be in discussions as top 5 pick no doubt.

[oscar canosa]

You know,the very best way to confound your enemy ix to say the Truth. Nobody will believe you. Now you have to be darned confident to do that. But if you pull it off they will always be at your mercy. Now, don't tell thia to anybody, it's a secret.

[Tim Knight sucks dick]

Me too NJ :)

[B33RCA53]

LOL your comparing Weeden to Tebow... do you even watch football?

[Tim Knight]

Me too NJ. Give me cockadoodle doo!

[Tim Knight]

NJ where is my dildooooo !