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Miami WRs still a big question mark

The NFL is a passing league. The New England Patriots -- with a relatively weak running game and a flawed defense -- have proven that for years. The New York Giants, meanwhile, have been able to overcome the Patriots in two Super Bowls because they could both pass and attack the passer.

So championships revolve around the pass.

The Dolphins obviously recognize this because they have finally, finally invested a first-round draft pick on a quarterback -- this in quarterback Ryan Tannehill. And while there are questions whether Tannehill will succeed or not, I know this:

Tannehill will need great wide receivers to become a great quarterback. There is zero doubt about that. There can be zero argument about that.

I know that many of you contend the Green Bay Packers, for example, have a great passing game because of their quarterback and offensive system while diminishing the importance of Greg Jennings and Jordy Nelson and Donald Driver and James Jones.

Wrong.

Great quarterbacks do not ever do it on their own. to the heights they can otherwise Even the Pats realized this when a mediocre group of receivers got them to the AFC title game in 2006 but the addition of Wes Welker and Randy Moss made them unbeatable in the 2007 regular season and undefeated through 18 games until the Super Bowl.

See the difference? Even with a HOF quarterback, great receivers are a huge upgrade.

That's why I believe the Dolphins must now upgrade the receiver corps. Yes, the club drafted B.J. Cunningham and Rishard Matthews on the draft's third day. And there are reports the Dolphins will sign Texas A&M WR Jeff Fuller and Penn State WR Derek Moye as undrafted free agents.

But all four are developmental players. And the problem is a majority of Miami's current receivers are still developmental players -- including Marlon Moore, Clyde Gates, Roberto Wallace and others.

Frankly, I look at Miami receivers and see a lot of question marks. Maybe they turn to exclamation points. But I don't see Miami's passing game taking off unless and until they do or unless and until the front office upgrades with better players.

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clint u silly sob

Wasn't me oscar, for sure. I don't get that worked up over this stuff.

It was fun DESTROYING the Jets in week 17 last year!

OK, DA.

I think we would ALL feel better if the Fins had a DOMINANT receiver already aboard. Of course that's the case. But right now we don't and realistically there was not guaranteed DOMINANT receiver available to them Rounds 2-7. All of those receivers will be unproven in the NFL and likely as much a PROJECT as Moore, Gates and Wallace.

So, for Philbin and Ireland to add 4 WR's in the draft and undrafted free agents I say OK. Lets see if one or two stick (even on the practice squad).

The ultimate test will be the new SYSTEM Philbin and Sherman introduce. Will they be able to modify their system to account for a lack of pulling guards and make it work with the talent they do have? I think we have some solid backs with Bush, Miller and Thomas. How do we get them involved with screens, rushing and pre-snap motion? How do they take advantage of Clay's ability to be a mismatch on LB's?

These guys seem like solid offensive minds. I'll trust their judgement this year and hope that we can land a solid Free Agent or Top Round Draft Pick next year.

Why Armando tolerates these creeps that come here to lie and in general to interfere with the true Fans here I'll never know.

We have never believed in Live and let Live. If you cannot follow the long standing principles of the Society you live in, you will have to find yourself another Home.

I agree oscar, I posted the same thing earlier about Jack Sparrow and since then he has slinked away like the troll that he is, but now I've noticed he's been replaced by dusty bottoms....another negative non-fan loser. Probably the same guy who just changed names.

Same ole deal at WR for us.. Ireland seems to think that he's happy with our group...I don't share that sentiment with Ireland. I think as Mando said we need better players. Whats the point in having 8-9 average to below average WR's..we need a #1 and #2 solid real deal WR's...then the rest of the group can be Hartline's and such... What are you thinking Jeffy???

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I agree oscar, I posted the same thing earlier about Jack Sparrow and since then he has slinked away like the troll that he is, but now I've noticed he's been replaced by dusty bottoms....another negative non-fan loser. Probably the same guy who just changed names.

Posted by: Tampa Bay Fin Fan | April 29, 2012 at 07:13 PM

LMAO!

Also - Nice moniker bro!

The premise of this article is retarded. First off lets look at the receivers how played for great QBs and how did they do when they went elsewhere? Branch did nothing in Seattle after he left NE and then when he returned to NE he was a stud. This is the case over and over again. The passing game isnt just WRs. NE shows this every week with 2 tight ends, edelman and woodhead out of the backfield. Well we added Agnew, Miller and the UT kid. Add this to Bush, Clay, Gates and company and we will have plenty of match up problems for the defense we play. It isnt just WRs you moron.

The new coaches will account for the lack of vertical threats in the passing game and we will feature a short...horizontal passing game. Lots of screens an short pass routes will be the flavor of the season. Running game will be solid...defense will be solid..passing game will be at the bottom of the NFL.

Thanks Tim...it's true there are a few people that post on here all the time that everything they write is so negative they can't possibly be Dolphin fans. I read this blog almost daily and don't post very often but all this negativity is really getting old. If these guys hate our team so bad why not find another team to follow. I for one think this was the best draft Ireland has done yet but you have to give it time to see what kind of pro players they'll be. Nobody knows that right now geeeez.

3 problems..we don't have Tom Brady throwing passes or the Pats te talent and scheme. New England is the only team in the league that has a prolific passing game featuring a slot wr and two te's. What makes you think we can duplicate this success with what we have?

I think we are all jumping the gun here... The season hasn't even started yet !! These recievers haven't even put there pads on yet... Everyone needs to calm down and let things play out before we become too judge-mental.... We have new coach and players, I don't think we did that bad in the draft so, give it a break... Rome was built in a day and neither was a superbowl winner ..
Posted by: Clint | April 29, 2012 at 06:50 PM
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I agree 100%......a lot of people need to chill!!!!

Or was it fin4life? Or Derek? In any case 1yr and 2 mo. ago either one of you reacted rather nasty to me when I said you would eat Big Crow regarding Ireland's Draft at that time. We NEVER forget. You probably will eat a bigger potion of Crow this coming Season.

Posted by: oscar canosa | April 29, 2012 at 06:14 PM
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He said...."We NEVER forget"....but starts the post of forgetting who said what.....LOL....

you can't buy this kind of entertainment.....

LOL, Brain you went fron the Jets to the Pats. You gonna singing the praises of Fitzpatrick and the Bills next??

Put it to you this way Rick...we have have the worst wr core in the AFC East. That's may entire point...comparing passing offenses and the weapons they deploy.

It was fun SWEEPING the Bills last year.
Week 11's 35-8 thrashing was SWEET!!!

Oh, and I think Clay was the leading receiver in that game.

I really like the Cunningham, Matthews, Fuller, and Moye deal. I think they will end up on the roster while Wallace Moore and Pruitt are let go... They've had their chance to get on the field. Sporano may be the biggest idiot but it's a lil too late now Philbin has his guys and obviously wants clean slates to mold to his liking
Fuller and Moye are both 6'4 WR with potential. I believe in any other draft they would have been taken before rd 6 they are great players.

X-Rays please!

Posted by: JackSparrow

What, are you looking for your brain X-Rays? Don't worry, they didn't find anything.

Brain,

I have to say i was surprised we didn't either sign more FA WR's or draft one higher than we did but I'm assumimg they felt like other areas were more important.

Lamar Miller had more talent hands down than anybody left on the board in the 4th.

Maybe they have another plan yet who knows. I do know it not just lip service when Philbin says he doesn't believe in #1 wr's. It's about formations and creating mismatches.

I do wonder if he's under valueing guys he had in GB like Jennings and Driver. Maybe he's taking to much stock in Ireland's grade on what we have here.

I like their offensive plan though and we'll see how it goes.

What if Tannehill comes in and has a Dalton effect and we make playoffs? 1 he'll be gaining much needed experience and 2 He'll know he is the leader and doesn't have to worry about supplanting Moore or Garrard. Let's say we go 8-8 w/ Moore it probably won't sit well if we were to cut Moore next year. It hurts his confidence if anything. I'd rather go 3-13 with Tannehill and have our future QB in place then to procrastinate another year.
honestly I do think Moore will do alright and win games for us but realistically he is gone next year no doubt. If I were them I'd trade Moore now before his value has a chance to drop. He may be able to garner a 4th rd pick. We paid Philly a 2nd for Feeley and Moore is way better than that bum. That way we don't have this QB controversy as well 1st Tannehill, 2nd Garrard, 3rd Devlin
I'm sure Cousins is pissed off. He was touted as a 2nd rd pick then fell to the 4th to compete for the backup QB position. While another rookie gets the sure start without a competition. There is no way they even give that kid a chance to be starter no matter how well he may play.

Hearing that Jacoby Harris, QB, Miami (FL) is being brought in as an UDFA. Maybe he could stick on the practice squad.

Hearing that Jacoby Harris, QB, Miami (FL) is being brought in as an UDFA. Maybe he could stick on the practice squad.

Well Armando this was the problem I had taking Tannehill, the void it has left in getting a dominant receiver. I understand the QB move but the void is there and what now? Years ago when the Mark receivers were drafted scouting was not what it is today. Fewer really good receivers can be found in the 5th through 7th rounds due to the greater emphasis on scouting. Brandon Marshall made Hartline and Bess look better than they are. They are very average receivers without elite speed. I think the Steelers Mike Wallace is still unhappy and may become available. He is the type of guy the Dolphins need; some experience and speed to stretch the field. With the westcoast offense the Dolphins will most likely use Michael Agnew and Lamar Miller for immediate help. They can put Bush in the slot in place of Bess. There are many alternatives with the WC offense.

Lol sheesh, just file this story under N for "no s#*t"!

The hope for me anyway is that Philbin sees something in Moore, Wallace and Gates and is going to rely on them to pick it up.

Saying two fourth year players are still in the developmental stage is downright ignorant. If these guys aren't ready to contribute this season it's time to cut them loose. 4 years is enough time for a WR to get it, time to show up guys!

I SAID IT MONTHS AGO THE GREAT JACORY HARIS ID THE NEXT BIGG THING, LOK FOR HIM TO HAVE HIS NUMBAR RETIRED.

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OSAR CANOSA POSTING SENSE 3:08 THIS MORNING
GETTING CLOSE TO DRUNKIN ODINS RECORD OF 17 STRIGHT HOUR OF POSTING
CAN HE DO IT?

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I like this draft, Tannehill at 8 might have been a reach, but they had to make that pick. BTW, BJ Cuninngham in the 6th is no slouch. Lamar Miller was a steal. So I am optimistic right now. I also think that Philbin will let his guys play. Roberto Wallace, the receiver we need has been here the whole time. I predict he will have a good year given the chance to play. This team needs to play to win, not to lose.

Aloco I miss when you were funny back in the day a week ago. Now you're just confusing and annoying. Corned Beef coach? Picking on the owner because of the way he looks? Making fun of a coaches struggles wit alcohol? Dentist, wtf? The neck? I mean just utterly useless. Jacory Harris' number retired? Guy you are totally clueless about football, you should just go back to watching soccer.

Or go back to your bigotted remarks about Italians, that always adds a lot to the football blog. Your posts are an embarrassment and your newly found love of everything negative is laughable. YOU were the guy who coined the phrase gang of defeat in here. Im sure they're happy about having you as a member, congrats.

I wish you would post your picture somewhere. Anyone who spends so much time making fun of the way people look must be a handsome devil, lets see what ya look like there ya butt nut ya.

Saying two fourth year players are still in the developmental stage is downright ignorant.

Posted by: Phins78 | April 29, 2012 at 08:12 PM


What was ignorant was the meatball brain wop coach who couldn't develop a photo with a polaroid.

How can you say Tannehill could have a Andy Dalton type effect without the weapons he had in the passing game. It wasn't all Dalton. He owes most of his production and success to AJ Green and Jerome Simpson. Not to mention they have J. Gresham. They have plenty of firepower. IF we could get our hands on an AJ Green type talent we would have an instant passing game. Unfortunately, AJ Greens come along once every 10-20 years.

PHIN78,WHAT SAY YOU ABOUT OSCAR NOW POSTING FOR 17 STRAGHT HOUR?
WHERE DID YOU HAVE FOR DINNER?
MCDONALD OR BURGER KING?

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How many f#$*ing names do some of you post under? What's up with that? Tiny ballz syndrome? Can't back up your garbage because you can barely string together a coherent sentence? Jeez us I mean you know you're not a man right, you know how pathetic it is to run and hide every time it gets a little uncomfortable for you right? MAN THE F$#K UP AND BACK UP YOUR OPINIONS YOU PUS**ES? FREAKIN pathetic losers.

Oh I'm leaving, so fire away at me using 50 different names, I won't see it. Anyone who is mad and responds to this post in an angry manner is obviously guilty of the very thing I outlined. Like the waste of human life yesterday who was bad mouthing Tannehills wife and disappeared the moment I called him out on it. So sick of being lumped in the "man" category with so many little girls, grow some ballz already or just give up and buy some tampax.

10-20 years,lol jones came out with him in same draft last year

Who is better????

tannys wife? she had me at hello

I am saying he and Calvin Johnson type talents come along once every blue moon. They won't be in every draft or every other draft. I know when AJ came out. That's not my point.

PHIN78,YG/LOL/DB/AND HIS MANY ALISES ARE A SHAME TO US HERE WHO WANT TALK ABOUT DOLPINS.

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That's a different issue I have no interest in Aloco. If Oscar is happy talking about the Dolphins then God speed. My issue with you is the flip flopping, making fun of peoples looks, bigotry, and same repetitive post over and over. I thought you were a good guy, apparently I was wrong, my bad. Later

To the newby, or 1st timer, on this blog:

Here, you will find a lot of good folks who love to talk about Miami Dolphin Football!

But,...

You will also find some folks that we call "Trolls" who will steal your name and post under it, make comments that you DO NOT want your children to read, try their best to start arguments with the others bloggers over stupid things, attempt to cause mischief and mayhem, and generally act like Jets fans! Please say a prayer for them. You see, Armando banned some folks on this blog because of such antics, and because of that they have made it their life's ambition to disrupt and harass others on this blog. You see, they live very pitiful lives in their Mom's basement and receive disability checks due to their mental conditions. It's sad, I know. But, what can you do? They keep changing their names and coming back, reinventing themselves & mutliplying; sort of like cockroaches, only more gross!

So, we would all like to apologize to you for them. We have learned to live with them on this blog and have found that the best thing to do is ignore them! Because if you engage them, that only encourages them. Oh, and every now & then, Armando actually shows up here and bans a couple of them. But, they always come back somehow.

And, that's why there are lonely "Trolls" on this blog. Please don't feed them!

Man there are some serious awol crazies around here.

TRACY=PHIN 78.

Oh had to come back for this last thing. Lets have a fun challenge. Lets ask Armando to list the names in here of people who post using multiples. He has all of our e-mails and could easily come in and post all of the posting names together that have the same e-mail or URL. You know Armando has this info right?

Armando Salguero I will pay you to post the multiples in lumps so we can see who is for real in here. Seriously, email me your price, I will pay for your time just for the satisfaction of knowing how many men we actually have in here. You could go back 8 or so posts, that should be plenty of room to find out who is who.

I guarantee you guys I have only one posting name. GUARANTEED.

The Fins need to go after Braylon Edwards!

That's great, perfect timing Aloco. I would love to not only prove you wrong but to see who you really are. Because no one on earth is as stupid as you pretend to be. You misspell the simplest words and have the worst grammar I've ever seen. None of us are perfect but you are beyond bad. Your little game is old and boring and it's actually quite sad to know that someone gets off on hanging out in a blog , and this is where it gets pathetic, not only posts under multiples but USES DIFFERENT PERSONAS FOR EACH. WOW,,,,,just wow. NOW I'm out.

Phins get a life. It's a freakin blog not some parlor for drama quieens. If the blog is too much for you and is spoiling your life, you might ask your mommy why she didn't breast feed you.

I ONLY POST AS MYSELF.
PHIN78, WHEN LAST TIME YOU WERE WITH A WOMEN?
YG/FB/YG/LOL, WHY YOU PICK FIGHTS WITH OSCAR?
HE HAS ISSUES BUT LIKE I SAY, LIVE AND LET LIVE

Just saw a re-run of Gruden's QB show with Tannehill. I continue to hope that the Fins give him one year to sit and learn. But I have to say, his apparent command of Sherman's offense is really impressive. I wonder if Moore and Garrard will pick it all in this offseason?

I have seen Tannehill in only about 3-4 games. But after watching this ESPN show I was psyched to see him throw out routes so well. Kid has real potential!

Why do Armando's blog writings almost always seem like he's blogging out to a bunch of idiots. Can anyone answer this for me?

Why do Armando's blog writings almost always seem like he's blogging out to a bunch of idiots. Can anyone answer this for me?

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone | April 29, 2012 at 09:37 PM


It's hard to say who is the biggger idiot, Armando or half the bloggers. He is preaching to his audience.

FLIPER/DYING/YG/LOL, WHY YOU THINK PHIN78 BEEN WITH OUT FEMALE COMPANIONSHIP SINSE 1991?

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Why would the fins bring in Jacory Harris
Why?!

72PERFECT, I SAID IT BEFORE,THE GREAT JACORY HARRIS IS THE NEXT BIG THING,A CERTAIN HAL OF FAMER.

Why do Armando's blog writings almost always seem like he's blogging out to a bunch of idiots. Can anyone answer this for me?
Posted by: Yesterday's Gone | April 29, 2012 at 09:37 PM

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Because you have to be an idiot to still be a Dolphin fan.

Armando's blog writing seems like he does good to feed the destitute, homeless, and low IQ. Is Armando employed by the Salvation Army?

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