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Ireland: The evaluator evaluates himself

 Jeff Ireland has been the Dolphins general manager since 2008. And next week, as the general manager, he'll put hs evaluaton skills to the test by picking a new set of players for the Dolphins in the annual NFL draft.

But how has the evaluator done? How would the evaluator evaluate himself?

“Well, it’s a team effort," Ireland said during the Dolphins annual pre-draft conference Thursday. "Bill (Parcells) and I conducted a couple drafts together. I’ve conducted one here solely by myself with my team upstairs obviously. Certainly, I’m not responsible for all of it. When you look back and you made some good picks. Depends on how you look at it. If you look at the future or past of the draft and you say 50-55% and you say if you can be 50% in the draft over a period of time, you’ve done pretty good.

"I think where we were when we started to where we are now we’ve done a pretty good job of adding some talent to this football team. Certainly I’m not saying I hit on every single one because I haven’t. There’s no doubt about that. Some I have taken some risk on and hit. And some I have taken some risk on and didn’t work out so good, but that’s just part of the draft.”

One looks at Ireland's first-round picks and they have not been bad. They have been good. He picked starting center Mike Pouncey in 2011 and he picked starting cornerback Vontae Davis in 2009. (Parcells has told me he did the draft in 2008 and 2010 and Ireland did it in 2009 while he was still there.)

The early round picks after No. 1? Probably early to decide.

Pat White was a disaster, although that was a total organizational failure. Sean Smith is a starter. Daniel Thomas is still an unknown quantity. 

“I think all the picks are extremely important but certainly second, third, fourth round picks, I mean those guys need to be either starters or significant role players," Ireland said. "I’m a firm believer that you can find talent in the fifth, sixth and seventh and obviously free agency. So every pick, there’s a lot of thought that goes into each and every one of them.

"I’m maybe stubborn enough to think I can hit on every single one of them. So, we spent a lot of time this time of the year on fifth, sixth and seventh round and free agency. Those guys are up there right now grinding away at the free agent board as well.”

Ireland believes he can hit on everyone. That is a good attitude because you don't want a loser who is expecting a disaster after the second or third round. But ... maybe that's not something you actually want to say publicly. Sets one up for critique.

“I’ve got some good guys and some guys are still developing I would say (Charles) Clay and Reshad Jones and Chris Clemmons," Ireland. "Those guys are still here and they’re still developing. I think we drafted a kid last year in the seventh round, Jimmy Wilson, that I think is going to be a pretty good player.

"Time will tell with John Jerry and Koa (Misi). So Pat Turner’s still playing in the league. He’s not on our roster, he’s still playing in the league so we’ve got to do a pretty good job this year. I’m looking more in the future than in the past.”

OK, so how do you evaluate the evaluator?

[RADIO NOTE: Ireland will be on my radio show, Armando and Perkins, at 7:30 this morning. You can listen in South Florida at 640-AM on your dial. Or you can watch the show by clicking here. If you miss the early-morning interview, we'll replay the interview at 9 a.m.]

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I think Ireland has done a pretty good job, you definitely have to like him for what he is doing as a GM. He is not over paying guys, he is getting value where he wants it, and he is not easily bullied. I believe he is smart GM and will get the job done. You may not like him as a person but a GM i think he's a pretty good one.

I NEVER HEARD THAT 50% MEANS YOU HAVE DONE A GOOD JOB UNLESS YOU R A GARAGE MANAGER.........


WE R LIVING IN THE CELLAR .......................


PRETTY GOOD GM=THE CELLAR....................... NICE ,,,,,,,,

ireland has a very high opinion of himself. too bad no one else does. his draft record speaks for itself;no impact or value added picks! anyone can throw a dart at a board.

Kafel Hylton,

That is a very astute observation by you, Ireland is a good GM, he is trying to fix the mess that Parcell's left behind, a mess he was not responsible for since Parcell's is the one that made ALL PERSONNEL DECISIONS.

of course you and I will be in the minority here because most of the people that post here have two left brains and can't think straight anyways.

it is far easier to criticize than to look at the facts .

THE DOLPHINS ARE THE WORST TEAM IN THE NFL TODAY ...........


THAT'A A FACT...........

IRELAND IS VERY SNEAKY GUY AND RUNS THE TEAM AS HIS OWN AUTO SHOP.......

HE SIGNS ONLY CHEAP PLAYERS ...................


AS A RESULT WE R THE PROUD TENANT OF THE FAMOUS CELLAR ...............

"Certainly, I’m not responsible for all of it."

I love how he is such a SNAKE that he deflects responsibility.

FZB,

If you'd bother to take your head out of Ireland crotch long enough to look up you'd notice he said "Bill (Parcells) and I conducted a couple drafts together."

NOTICE the "TOGETHER" part?

So much for your "Parcell's is the one that made ALL PERSONNEL DECISIONS." bull.

That Parcell's might've had final veto authority means nothing if he was basically just dipping his toe in the pool while he let the others do the real swimming.

THIS IS AN OLD SUBJECT..................


ALL I KNOW WE R AT MOMENT IN THE CELLAR FOR YEARS........................


WITH OUR NEW CORN BEEF HC ,WE WILL SEE THE RESULT IN THE FIRST 6 GAMES .............

ALL I KMOW WE R AT THE MOMENT


The record of the team since 2008 speaks for itself not that it falls entirely on Ireland. The draft themselves have been ok. But anyone who feels Ireland is a great GM ignores the numerous poor free agent acquisitions that have equal or more impact on the team. As for his arrogance, usually successful people have some degree of it. Why he is arrogant is anyone's guess.

ALoco, how is it a fact that the Dolphins are the worst team in NFL history. You usually say some stupid things, without basis of fact, but this one is your stupidest.

Can you morons stop and think for a second? Just for a second. Comparatively speaking Ireland has done well and so did Parcells. There was nothing here when they came in. Ginn at 9 the year before. The year before that was Satan. And before that the stache. This team has been on hold for a few years. How long did it take Detroit to get back to winning football? How long was New England in the dog house with bad GMs.
Under normal circumstances it takes at least 4 or 5 years to completely revamp a team. The situation in Miami was one of a new franchise. After Dan the players that were left over just started retiring. We were left with less and less options in each years draft.
When these guys took over the rebuild really started. Really started. But one small mistake like Pat White who was a risk as a low number 2 pick failed. And TS just wasn't the guy for this type of team after year 2. Rah Rah doesn't work when you need a real teacher.
Evey ship needs and anchor and we got one with Long. The current admiistration has created a stout defense. Not the number one but a good and at times great d that will come of age this year with a pass rusher.
We found a qb. He isn't Brady but he is as good as Eli Manning. And Eli Manning is crap without a line. With a better right side of the line Moore will be that much better this year. We have a level headed coach that appears to create a better team. A team with it's own image. He appears to believe in balance and quick strikes to win games. We will see how it works out.
You guys and I have at times dumped on the administration like they could control every play on the field. We screamed for a wide receiver. They got him. 2 2nd rounders and he is gone and the team accomplished nothing with him. We got Dansby. Good player but till now he appears to have been paid a bit too much. Now I read from most of you turds that both of these guys sucked and the administration is to blame even though the got guys we all applauded when we got them.
So stop your whining you bunch of sniveling Wets fans.

John,

I KNOW some inside facts and information that you don't, did it ever occurred to you that Ireland said that because he doesn't want to throw his old boss under the bus?

I know for a fact that Parcell made all decisions, Ireland did not, the Pat White pick was Parcell's and Sparano, passing on Ryan was all on Parcell's too, the Marshall trade all Parcell's and I can go on and on.

You know THERE IS A REASON WHY IRELAND WAS KEPT, or did you think that Ross took a stupid pill all of a sudden, Ross checked out the facts and talked to NFL people he trust and found put that Ireland was not the problem.

Billionaires don't get to be billionaires by making stupid decisions, Ireland has ONLY been in charge of all personnel decisions since free agency last year, free agency this year and last years draft and in that time he made a lot of good decisions on both free agency and the draft.

it must be real tough going through life blind and stupid, I feel bad for ya.

ps- ALoco is just as blind and stupid as you.

The only thing I will say is if Miami does draft Tannehill, even though I won't like the pick, only Miami has the real knowledge of this kid, and feel it is really worth the stretch.

Also, he will have no learning curve either of the offense.

We will see.

Armando, the Parcells philosophy of big, big and bigger is just not applicable in today's NFL without being athletic. Parcells is cocky and a very good coach however he influenced Ireland with his out of touch methods and Ireland knows it. Ireland always picked big while Parcells was in Miami. Gates never would have been drafted nor would Bush have been a pick up in free agency if Parcells was still VP. Parcells had problems drafting skill position players like QB and WR. Parcells chose big lineman with some low draft picks and passed up some very good players which should be considered when evaluating the Parcells years. Simply put the Parcells' influence has hurt the Dolphins. Players like Pat White and Patrick Turner were picked to be stars in the NFL and they can not play. Turner is barley hanging on and Chad Henne is a backup QB. Parcells is not a guru when it comes to buying the groceries and his record shows that. Bill you are what your record says you are. Please, when evaluating Parcells one has to look at the low draft picks that are just marginal players and the players that were passed up who are stars in the league now. Get Ireland drunk and he will start trashing Parcells without sugar coating his comments about his mentor Parcells.

YOU GUYS ARE TALKING AS IF WE STARTED LAST SEASON UNDER OUR GARAGE MANAGER ...........7-0 AND NOT 0-7.........................

I DIDN'T SAY WE R THE WORST TEAM IN THE NFL HISTORY BU CLOSE ..................

THE B.MARSHALL WILL PROVE VERY COSTLY .........

BUT CLOSE

3 str8t losing seasons, yeah great job buddy your the only GM in history of the dolphins to accomplish that feat!! Fireland!! Remember the saying "you are what your record says you are" well were losers!!

THE DOLPHINS ARE THE WORST TEAM IN THE NFL TODAY ...........


THAT'A A FACT...........

IRELAND IS VERY SNEAKY GUY AND RUNS THE TEAM AS HIS OWN AUTO SHOP.......

HE SIGNS ONLY CHEAP PLAYERS ...................


AS A RESULT WE R THE PROUD TENANT OF THE FAMOUS CELLAR

ALoco, it doesn't matter how one starts, you have to look at the season as a collective. Quit say stupid things so people won't think you're stupid. The Dolphins were NOT even close to the worst team, how does Indy's 2-14 sound to you. Our draft choice suggests that there are at least 7 worse teams. Come on think a little.

True, now you're saying things that just aren't true. They are bumping up to the salary cap limit, that suggests that they aren't cheap. If they were cheap they would be substancially below the cap. Maybe the players we're paying aren't good but cheap........NO. If you have any FACTS to the contrary why not post them.

You can not judge any draft one year out. Remember during the Bush/Williams draft a few yeras ago when Casselry took Williams #1 overall and took a huge amount of criticism for it?? Well in their rookie seasons it looked like a mistake but a few years after it totally vindicated him because Williams is a stud and Bush is a very good but not great player. So it is difficult to judge Ireland draft last year for at least another year or two. One thing is for certain Ross has made him become more of a media guy and explain what is going on, maybe not always great but at least he talks now, totally against the Parcells model. Give the guy another draft or two and if at that time we have some hope at QB, which is what he will ultimately be judged by, then he was a success, if not he was a failure.

Over the past 4 yrs our coaching staff was horrible and that was on Parcells...As for Ireland , he never uses his imagination such as trading a 2nd and a 3rd and moving up in the draft to get a better player, all we get is average joes....no play makers..all average like vontae, ordick, long, ect nothing speacial cuzzz I can name 7 lefty tackles in AFC as good as Long Bo

MIKE......HOW YOU LIKE WE R TALKING , IF WE R THE WORST TEAM OR NOT...........


IT'S COMEDY CENTRAL......

THAT'S FACT ....................................

Hey guys, i think Ireland and Philbin are gonna be great together. Ireland believes in value and building through the draft. Philbin comes from the Packers and believes in building through the draft and developing your own players. That's why no big name free agents have been signed.
To think Ireland has done a poor job as a G.M. is just not accurate. Seems like peeps forget the Wanny drafts or Saban drafting R.Brown with p2r1 or Cam drafting the Ginn family with p9r1 and almost going 0-16.
I am gonna give you guys the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to repressed memories. I know those years have been pretty traumatic for us. :)

MIKE..........PLAYERS PREFORM AS THE THIER HC DEMAND OF THEM .......IF YOU HAVE A PIZZA MAN AS A HC ,THEN NO PLAYER WILL WORK HARD OR INJURE HIMSELF AND FINISH HIS CARRER FOR HIM......


THAT'S A FACT........

WE WILL SEE HOW THEY WILL PLAY UNDER OUR NEW CORN BEEF COACH.......

TO WORK UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE.......

The Draft...for Dolphin fans...is a lot like playing the lotto.

Have you ever bought a lottery ticket when the Jackpot gets really really big?? For a couple days leading up to the drawing you may let your mind wander and think about how life would be if you actually won. But when the day comes and you have to check your ticket you know that you'll have to come back to reality and have to deal with all the same BS that you always deal with.

That's what some of us DolFans feel like. Although, I rarely let my mind wander anymore. All I can see is the BS...and it's painted Aqua and Orange.

ALoco you're never played sports at a high level have you. It's very evident.

STILL HERE......... 90% OF FANS NEVER PLAYED SPORT .......STILL THEY R FANS AND LOVE THEIR TEAMS ,,,,,,,


BUT I PLAYED SOCCER AT HIG LEVEL ,,,,,,,BTW (( BEST SPORT IN THE WORLD ))............... TO WORK.....

This is a such a subjective, loaded question, it's difficult to have a discussion about it (because the facts overlap). For example, sure Ireland hit (in the sense of drafting starters) on some players (Misi, Smith come to mind). So that's good. However, anyone think either of those guys are "impact" players? Playmakers? Game changers? No. Both are 2nd-rd picks. Doesn't mean they should be ProBowlers, just that they were high-round draft picks who are really just b-players.

And therein lies the rub. Ireland's GLARING deficiency to everyone but a few homers is he hasn't drafted enough "impact" players/playmakers during his tenure. He's still here because he's done enough (in the Owner's eyes) to deserve a true shot with a Coaching staff that knows how to develop talent. However, you're seeing all these articles (EVERYWHERE) about this having to be a really good Draft for Miami because the league knows Ireland's been teetering on the brink of average drafts and impressive drafts.

It's nothing that can be answered today, the grading is still a work in progress, because we haven't seen if these players drafted last few years are going to blossom or if they will remain mediocre.

Hey guys, i think Ireland and Philbin are gonna be great together.

Posted by: finsl2k | April 20, 2012 at 08:24 AM

fins, this could be Ireland's saving grace. His problem is he was drafting using an outdated philosophy and strategy. The best players Miami drafted were linemen (o and d). That's part of the reason we're mediocre. We can't score with linemen. We score with QBs, RBs, WRs and TEs. Our best WR is undrafted (Bess). Our best RB/TE are FA's.

Hopefully with Philbin's MUCH IMPROVED philosophy and strategy (from the last regime), Ireland will be able to hit stronger than he has before on positions that impact games more than linemen.

That's my hope. That's what I want to see out of this Draft.

"If you look at the future or past of the draft and you say 50-55% and you say if you can be 50% in the draft over a period of time, you’ve done pretty good."

Last year is the only draft that has a chance to have at least 50% of the players be good picks. MUCH more miss than hits Obviously that's not all on Ireland (Parcells & the scouting team deserves blames as well) BUT the numbers don't lie;

2008--Hits on Long & Langford. Misses on everyone else.
2009--Vontae Davis is a good player but he's not consistent enough to be considered a GREAT pick. Hartline was a solid pick for a 4th rounder. But other than that I see all misses like Pat White, Patrick Turner, etc. The jury is still out on Clemons. Smith is too inconsistent & doesn't possess ANY ball skills. I think he'll be a backup this year now that we signed Marshall.
2010--Odrick is also a good player but he's only played one season so it's too early to judge. Misi looks like a miss & the jury is out on Jerry & Reshard Jones.

I'm not sure if Ireland was just stating a fact that 50-55% WOULD be pretty good or he actually thinks he has hit between 50-55%. I really don't care what he thinks b/c our drafts from 2008-2010 have not produced enough impact players which may have something to do with the fact that we just finished the 2011 finishing 6-10. Ireland has not drafted huge impact players like Clay Matthews or Rob Gronkowski or a Hakeem Nicks or Andy Dalton. Four impact players that were in our grasp. Yes, Sparano did not do a great job here BUT does anyone other than Ross or Ireland think the drafts from 2008-2010 were a success???

Ireland is absolutely the worst GM..... He's made his living off the Dallas Cowboys, anyone they cut Ireland gobbles up..... I'll give him credit for taking a chance on M Moore, but trying to pull the same trick twice with Garrard? And then giving the guy a $3.5 million contract when nobody else tried to sign him? I ain't buying it.... Or trading up to draft Daniel Thomas? He was a 3rd rounder on everyone's draft board but Ireland traded a 3 & 5 to get him and he didn't produce..... Trading Marshall and not replacing makes no sense and then basically signing a bunch of scrubs in the off season while our competition is signing players and making a splash in free agency...... Ireland is just one of the problems, the other is our owner Ross.........

This is an amazing tale of the tape here. Ireland has drafted nobody, NOT ONE PLAYER, that's should start after the Third round, and even including it. It's almost mind boggling how big his misses have been. And that's why this draft is going to be awful, because we have an egotistical guy that can't see that everyone around him is right and he is wrong.
Why didn't we go after Asante Samuel? Eagles want a trade up, they could've swapped with us, we still would've gotten a great wide receiver in the first round, Lamar miller in second (as a steal) and russel wilson and tommy streeter in third, this team would be the talk of Miami again, Wilson is ready to play now, and use the other picks for pass rusher and safety and o line, and one more qb...
Frustrating....Ireland knows nothing of talent, how he got this job and is keeping it is beyond me.

DC,

I don't believe that Ireland's philosphy will change. He had success with HIS draft team taking guys like Pouncey, Thomas & Clay when healthy, & Wilson in the 7th. If these guys TRULY materialize & become starters &/or make impact plays then it will be a great draft.

He DEFINIELY believes in "bigger, stronger, faster" which I is why I expect him to take Coples at 8 instead of Ingram. I have NO IDEA whether this will work or not but IMO he won't take Ingram b/c he doesn't fit his height requirement. But I may be inclined to take the player which is Ingram who may be a little shorter to be our next DE b/c his effort is not in question. Coples has the skills to be elite so he could be the next Peppers or the next Merling. Huge boom or bust prospect.

I realize most fans will go ballistic if the Fins pick another o-lineman in the 1st round but if Ireland wants to play it SAFE that's what he'll do (most other positions can be boom or bust).

Ireland wants to stabilize the o-line (something that they've struggled with since he got here).

He'd only have to find one more starter to have his TWO IMPACT STARTERS.

I'd actually prefer a player that can put the likes of Brady or any other QB on their back several times per game. Someone like Coples or Ingram. But neither would be as safe as an o-lineman. Could they get lucky finding a starting o-lineman in the later rounds? We'd have to hope they can.

Solid o-line means:
1) less sack, QB pressures
2) more time to find open receivers
3) better running lanes
4) defense can be rested

The majority of the mock drafts have had Riley Reiff as the Fins pick. They could be right after all if Ireland wants to play it safe. Ireland should take at least two pass rushers in the later rounds if he goes o-lineman first.

Inimounts,

Asante Samuel makes almost $10 Million a year & he's not a physical player. Yes he collects INT's which is great but there's a reason why Andy Reid has been shopping him for the last two years--he's soft.

Inimounts,

BTW--I love Lamar Miller & Russell Wilson. Miller is explosive & Wilson is as good as ANY QB in this draft except Luck but b/c he's 5'11" everyone freaks out.

I give him a D-. There have been ZERO Impact players.

Jake long-a very good left tackle, but he was the NUMBER ONE overall pick. You don't a lot of brownie points for picking an offensive lineman one overall in my book.

Mike Pouncey-see above comment. If you pick a center at 15, he BETTER be good.

Vontae Davis-solid not spectacular.

Jared Odrick- improving, may become the best first rounder.

Throw in Pat White, Henne, Turner, Murphy, Misi, and Jerry and the grade goes down drastically.

Not one player Ireland has drafted has become a "game changer". His drafts are average at beast. The two best players last year were Dansby and Marshall, two overpriced free agents. He has missed more often than not in free agency also. The Dolphins are at the salary cap limit with an average team How can you say he has done a good job. His arrogance does not equal his production. He is a puppy who thinks he's a dog!

Swamy,

You're right. Most people want Floyd to add excitement to this offense but he's a drunk & that's a big problem.You can't go wrong in drafting DeCastro. Sure he's a Guard but he's NFL ready. Too high at 8 for a Guard then go Reiff.

Personally I'd take Kuechly if I had the pick (Ingram intrigues me too) but I'd have NO PROBLEM if he went O-line at 8. None. I just agree with Ben Volin on this Coples fits the Ireland/Parcells DE prototype.

Last year was supposed to be the year when the Parcell plan would mature.....yeild a winning football team. it was the 4th-5th year of the rebuilding process. Simply, it failed. So if you have place blame it would have to go sqarely on parcells shoulders. When the season ended last year it was evident the dolphins had to rebuild again. There are a lot of things working against this franchise, A rookie owner, a GM with little or no experience and a rookie head coach. Blame aside, I have no choice but to give this current administration a chance to succeed or fail. That process is still ongoing....

Marvin,

You're not too bright are you, Ireland's track record is from last year's free agency,last year's draft and this year's free agency.

Parcell was in charge prior to that, so you're blaming Ireland for Parcells picks...He found R Bush, M Moore and K Burnett, three very good additions, he also signed Columbo as a back up to Murtha but the guy was lost for the year and Columbo had to play.

in the time he has been in charge of everything he has done a good job.

What is it with people on this blog consistently saying that Dansby is overpaid??? Either you guys are all crazy or you're not watching him play. Maybe both. LOL!!!

He is BY FAR the most consistent & versatile player we have on defense. He may not have the highlight reel MONSTER hits like Patrick Willis but he's all over the field making plays & he RARELY makes mistakes.

Why do some of you guys bash me by calling me Clue(less), I mean can't you guys come up with something more orginal than that?

Ireland sucks.................... Fire his A S S
Ireland sucks.................... Fire his A S S
Ireland sucks.................... Fire his A S S
Ireland sucks.................... Fire his A S S
Ireland sucks.................... Fire his A S S
Ireland sucks.................... Fire his A S S

Fireland

An improved o-line should help Moore to improve his #12 QB ranking from last year.

FIVE games were lost by three points or less. The Fins could have been 11-5 if they won those close games.

I believe that Moore will thrive in the new WCO and will win the close games.

Keuchly or DeCastro. Either one solidifies a problem area and has the best chance to be a Pro Bowl player.

Both have a high ceiling, and a high floor. Enough boom or busts. Hit on this pick.

"Certainly, I’m not responsible for all of it."

I love how he is such a SNAKE that he deflects responsibility.

Posted by: john | April 20, 2012 at 06:47 AM

Sounds alot like me, don't he? I wonder if he used a teleprompter? Hmmm

Ireland should trade himself...

Is there a worse GM then "is your momma a hooka?" Ireland?

As discussed yesterday & universally agreed on by many, Ireland's phins, since 2008, have NOT drafted at a 55% success rate. What a complete, utter joke!

Look at the drafts & their success rate is 38%. That is being generous. That is giving him the benefit of the doubt on bums & duds like S. Smith, Jerry, Misi & Jones.

Put those 4 guys on the bad picks side & the phins have had a success rate of about 29-30%. Horrific drafting. Add to that the lack of ANY impact players.

No one should wonder why the Dolphins stink right now. Jeff Ireland has passed on about 8-10 legit NFL STARS & probowlers to take marginal starters & role players.

BOYCOTT THE FINS UNTIL IRELAND IS FIRED! WE"RE TIRED OF THE LOSING!! WE DEMAND CHANGE!

Irescum wouldnt know a franchise QB if one sat in his lap.

How far will Kalil fall if Minnesota decides they want Blackmon instead?

I believe he could drop to #8 (I don't believe anyone at #4 to #7 needs an LT).

This would create a scenario with multiple outcomes.

(1) Trade Long for picks or (2) trade him for a proven starter in an area of need plus draft picks.

Oh, another tidbit I heard on the radio this morning. A reporter stated that he talked to someone in Miami's front office who told them they had Tannyhill on their radar BEFORE hiring Mike Sherman as OC. And that they might have hired Sherman based on their interest in Tannyhill and desire to Draft him.

Not sure about the credibility of the report, but it gives us a glimpse of how much they apparently like Tannyhill within the organization.

Is there really any doubt that we'll draft Tannyhill (provided no one picks him up before we do)? I don't think so. People should stop getting all excited over Coples or Ingram or whomever. Ain't happening people. The probability is they take Tannyhill, for better or worse.

And, so it's in b/w, that's a pick I will NEVER criticize Ireland for (because I've been the loudest screamer that we need to take a chance and draft a QB in the 1st-rd).

They took Tannehill to dinner at the pro day. That means you can scratch him off the draft board. Ireland does not show his hand.

DC,

Well said. I feel the same way. Makes the most sense. There's just as much risk taking a guy like Coples or Ingram or Upshaw. Only difference is with those guys you KNOW you're not getting your QB. Taking Tannehill at least gives the team a chance of getting that QB.

50-50 sounds average to me..I think thats right about where he is.

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