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Another week for Wake to skip begins today

Workouts continue today across the NFL and several prominent players will be nowhere in sight when their clubs begin or continue the organized team workouts. Drew Brees will be absent in New Orleans. Matt Forte won't be showing up in Chicago. Wes Welker won't be working in New England.

And in Miami ... Cameron Wake has a decision to make.

He missed last week's start to the offseason conditioning program as a mild statement protesting the fact he has not gotten an expected contract extension beyond the deal that expires after the 2012 season. So the club would be pleasantly surprised if Wake shows up today.

But, seriously, who are we kidding here? I believe Cameron Wake will carry his protest to training camp like I believe in unicorns -- which is to say, I don't think it will happen.

Simply, Wake doesn't have the leverage here. And while his agent is leaking statistics about his client's stats beyond sacks, he recognizes he's tilting at windmills (Don Quixote, look it up). Wake is under contract. If he sits out the conditioning program and OTAs he doesn't collect his workout bonus.

If he skips the mandatory minicamp, he's subject to fine. And if he holds out during training camp, the fines will be steeper and the issue will become more contentious.

There is no doubt Wake deserves a new contract -- eventually. But is he wise in making the point by sitting out meaningless workouts? Is the team ultimately more likely to give him a new contract because he's skipping the work? Are the Dolphins more likely to quake at the thought Wake isn't around or are they more likely to be annoyed?

I say the truth is closer to the latter than the former.

By the way, I can understand why this deal isn't done yet. First, Wake is under contract. Second, the Dolphins can hold Wake beyond the coming season with a franchise tag. Third, the club has got to be aware Wake had a very good season in 2010, but came back to Earth in 2011, his sacks going from 14.5 to 8.5 while his forced fumbles going from 3 in 2010 to none last year.

So is Wake closer to the dominant player that we saw in 2010? Or is he more like the player we saw in 2011? And how much better is he going to get now that he's reached 30 years old?

All these questions cloud and affect the Wake contract negotiation. No wonder there's an issue.

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Wake has a lot of nerve! We pick this guy up off a Canadian Roster, give him an opportunity that he took full advantage of and made the most of it granted. But he should show some respect and get his butt on the field. Thats what ownership is looking for, not another B.M. on the defensive side of the ball.

i can understand where the man is coming from. he hasn't really hit the big money yet and is only 1 injury away from never hitting it.

The issue is he's making less that his backup, who's a special teams player. In a nutshell, that's what I'd be upset at. Oh, and the fact that I'm one of 2 players on the defense who's gone to a ProBowl for this team. So I get Wake's frustration.

The problem is, holding out won't make it better (like Mando said) and probably will make it worse. So Wake's best play here is to continue to demand a new contract, but do everything he needs to have a great Season (which is the most likely motivator for the team to get it done).

Wake can't worry about being hurt, if he was he wouldn't be playing ball at such a high level. He needs to continue his good image and show up. BIM

What is the amount love necessary to make Wake happy? Can you you show a little love or do you have to open the bank vault to make him happy? I would be ticked if my back up was making more, but the FO has to be able to let him no there is no CAP room now to do a new long term. You can always redo the deal mid year like a lot of teams do.

DC,

He's also under contract for this year and as Armando has said, can be franchised next year. The NFl business side can seem unfair at times but these are the rules and this is the how the game is played. Armando bring up another good point...Wake is 30, how much is he going to get better? I know it's an unpopular opinion but at some point I'd be looking to trade Wake. I realize we have no one else who can do what he does and he's a good player but are you prepared to pay him top dollar for a guy who has 8.5 sacks last year and is 30? Not saying I'd trade him now...just saying I'd investigate it. If we could get a first round pick this year or next I would liekly consider it. I don't see us winning anything this year and it would be to great to reload with a cheaper, younger player.

contract, contract, honor your contract, or trade him for a 2nd rn pick, draft his replacement. Couples and Perry.

Last year can't be used as a comparison. Wake had 8.5 sacks and 14 the year before. Last year JT took some of Wake's sacks with his 7.5 sacks. Since it is a team sport JT probably got sacks because of pressure by Wake and of course visa versa. I don't believe there was a drop off just by looking at the sack number. There were a lot of hurries and a lot of double teaming.
Does he deserve more money? Yep. Should Ireland have been proactive in paying the guy? Yep. Should he sit out? Nope. All this stuff does is make a player hate management. If the guy is worth it, make a fair incentive contract. Meaning you pay a guy like Wake for what he does and then upgrade or downgrade his contract based on performance. He had 14 sacks. He then had 8. He changed the outcomes of a couple of games. Pay the guy. Backup turds shouldn't be paid more than the starter.

wake will show up. He does need a new contract and will get one. But I bet not until after the draft.

Craig, in the end, you said it, this is a tough business. I get the player issues (health, getting 1 payout in their prime, etc.), but as a fan, I understand the team dilemmas too.

And you're right, even as good as Wake was 2 years ago, he's not un-expendable (heck, if Marshall is expendable than everyone is). Plus, this is a rebuild year, so if we can get rid of players, this year makes the most sense.

Am I comfortable paying Wake big-time money, no. For one year of elite play? Doesn't sound like a deal Miami usually gets the better of (in recent history). Do I think he deserves more than $700K/yr, ABSOLUTELY. But he's in that gray area, where the team still has him signed, they have other more pressing needs, and just need time to sort it all out.

Wake has little leverage to use IMO. So what if he sits out, we're not going to the Playoffs this year. It would only give the team a chance to try someone else at the position, and if they can hold it down (even close to what Wake can do) then he'll have lost his chance to prove his longer-term value.

Pay Wake and you'll see him flourish. I feel he'll go all out and we will receive a boost in play if he signs the contract. I don't think Wake would do things nonchalantly with a new contract, just the opposite, if he doesn't get one he might do that

Craig M, since you insist on telling us everything you think about the phins I was wondering if you could enlighten us as to how you feel about the cheerleader outfits & their pompom colors?

Almost every position on this team is a pressing need. You want to add another one?

Miami is desperate to find somebody opposite of Wake. I get it! Why don't we eliminate that need by trading Wake. Addition by subtraction. If you don't have Wake, you don't need someone to take pressure off him.

Brilliant idea! Thank god you folk aren't running this team. Armchair GM's, don't quit your day jobs!

I was pissed about Wake not being here, but then DC pointed out he is making less than Trusnick. Contract commitment, or not, That is insane!

He does need to ge to workouts though, if he gets injured that could be bad, but the flip side is if he does not get to work outs, then pushes this out to far, he will be MORE likly to hurt himself, and any chance of getting a top $$ contract.

Sucks for wake, double edged sword!

Fuuny group....it's a blog where you get to express opinions. Some folks don't seem to understand the concepts. Some want us all to be robots and sit around and hold hands and sign 'Kumba Yah'.

Here's an idea trolls....if you don't like the fact that we get to express opinions on here then f8ck off and get a life. Hope that's clear enough for you.

I can understand Wake's problem with his contract but I do not understand Brees' and Welker's. Players balking at being franchised. The franchise tag pays them an average of the top five salaries at the position. This deal was agreed upon and ratified in the CBA the players signed off on and now they do not like it. I understand they want a long term contract because of risk of injury or is there something I'm missing but they agreed to it.

Is it draft day yet?

Wake is under contract and they can franchise him next year, as Mando says. His agent is giving him bad advice. Get in the gym with the team Wake! Your time to negotiate is after you have a good year THIS year. Wake has no leverage whatsover right now. Zero.

Come on Mando,... "Come back to Earth,... really?" The guy improved on everything last year. He was routinely double teamed, he played the edge better, covered RBs and TEs, was rated #1 outside linebacker by reputable sources, and did not get hurt. We signed a nickel corner and paid him 5 million a year. We signed a retired QB for over 3 million a year. The guy should have been paid. However i do believe Wake will show. i do believe Wake will play and play well. Not because of the money, but because of who he is,... a true warrior.

In his MMQB column Monday morning, SI's Peter King was adamant that the Seahawks would select Texas A&M QB Ryan Tannehill if he was available with the 12th overall pick in the draft.
"You can write this down," says King. "If Tannehill were to be there at 12, Seattle would take him." Per King, teams around the league are well aware of the Seahawks' affinity for Tannehill, and a quarterback-needy club might be inclined to trade up to No. 11 to get in front of Seattle if Tannehill fell. "At Tannehill's workout," one source told King, "(Seahawks coach) Pete Carroll was giggling like a schoolgirl watching him throw. His attitude was like, 'What are we even doing here? He'll never be there for us."

Good!!! Let Seattle take him. Then they can have Flynn who they just overpaid for & Tannehill as a developmental project.

Maybe Carroll will also bring in Matt Leinart to compete.

Also trolls, us ADULT posters like responding to each other. Craig's first post was addressed to me, and he's someone who's opinion I value on this blog. So he wasn't just spouting off as a Dolphins "know-it-all." He was giving me his opinion.

I can appreciate Craig's point-of-view. It's you, TROLLS, who posts we could ALL live without.

Wakes best move is to show up this week for the conditioning program. He's made his point. If nothing else he should be showing up to make sure he plays well enough to be awarded the franchise tag. Plus if he continues to hold out Miami might draft 2 DE's instead of one, and might find himself unemployed next year.

"So is Wake closer to the dominant player that we saw in 2010? Or is he more like the player we saw in 2011? And how much better is he going to get now that he's reached 30 years old?"

He had a great year in 2010 & a good year in 2011. However numbers can be misleading b/c he also drew a TON of holding calls against the offense so obviously teams need to account for him.

Not sure what the argument is here. He's our best & only pass rusher right now. I hope Ireland learned the hard way that franchising a player (& thus overpaying) is not the way to go. The guy is CLEARLY underpaid & if Soliai just got $6 Million a year from us that's where talks should begin.

IMO--NO ONE can fault Wake for holding just like no one can fault Brees. Brees played under the franchise tag his last season in SD & look at what happened???

Wake will be there once the rookies show up and start competing for his spot

The Coach, I thought Welker was franchised before (could be wrong about that), so that may be why he's upset. But you had it right, the tag is a ONE YEAR CONTRACT. To many of these guys, it's a slap in the face (like Brees), because they usually are very important to the team. So on the one hand the team is saying they are so important they don't want to lose them, but on the other they're saying they have other priorities and don't want to give a player a big long-term deal now.

In the end, the players union could have fought the tag in the new CBA, they didn't, so they just have to live with it for the next decade. However, the players still have some chips they can play to show their disapproval, and the teams need to live with that too (though the fines for holding out start to become very onerous for players, so I doubt you see too many long holdouts like Chris Johnson last year).

Craig M, please tell us about your breakfast today & it's nutritional value. Then you can tell us how Jeff Ireland's was better & your reasons why.

As usual, Ireland try to bargain Wake's extension and get the most for least. It wouldn't surprise me if Wake leaves the team next year. Ireland is very good at letting go key players and getting recycled ones. This GM is a virus for the Dolphins.

yet another column confirming you are simply a mouthpiece for Ireland and Ross...you really are Ross's lapdog, Mando

And this is the way the Miami Dolphins plan to rebuild the team.........

Next weekend is when the picture gets clearer. What if we get 2 potential pass-rushers? Then the Wake issue might be more understandable. We just don't know with the new direction. This could go any number of ways.

To me Wake seems like the type of guy you want on your team, and I think he's a viable option for at least another 3-5 years. But the new DC might think he's overrated, or won't fit his system well. I just don't know. None of us do. We're all just postulating and opining.

I AGREE WITH SOME OF WHAT ARMANDO SAID AND DISAGREE WITH SOME.

FIRST YES HE'S UNDER CONTRACT BUT HE HAS OUT PLAYED THAT AND SHOULD GET ONE UPDATED.

HE IS THE MAIN PLAYER THAT TEAMS GAME PLAN FOR EVERY MAIN PLAYER GETS PAID. HE SHOULD BE NO DIFFERENT.

THE CONTRACT WAS MADE TO PROTECT THE TEAM IF HE COULDN'T MAKE IT BUT CLEARLY HE CAN.

HE ONLY LEARNED HOW TO BE A OLB 3 YEARS AGO AND IS NOW MAYBE A TOP 10 IN THE LEAGUE BUT IS GETTING PAID LESS THAN A BACK UP.

HE'S NOT HURTING HIMSELF.

WHO IS THE DOLPHIN'S PASS RUSHERS BESIDES FOR HIM?

HE'S NEEDED MORE NOW THAN EVER BEFORE.

YES HE'S 30 BUT HE DID'T PLAY FOR A FEW YEARS AND THEN WENT TO CANADA TO PLAY AGINST LESSER COMPETION.

JASON TAYLOR JUST LEFT THE GAME AT WHAT 37 38 YEARS OLD.

GIVE HIM A 5 YEAR DEAL WITH IT BEING UPFRONT LOADED.

HE HAS NO LEVERAGE? LOL

WE SIGNED DANSBY AT WHAT AGE?

WE GAVE GEBRIL WILSON MONEY?

WE GAVE JAKE GROOVE MONEY?

WE GAVE MARCO COLOMBO MONEY?

LOL

MERLING MADE MORE.

ODRICK MADE MORE.

BESS AND HARTLINE MADE MORE.

OUR BACK UP QB MADE MORE.

STOP THE BULL$HIT AND GIVE THAT MAN HIS MONEY.

THe guy is risking his lively hood for pennies on the dollar. It's classless just like I have come to expect from the Dolphins!!! Fireland!!!

No leverage?? He can hold out and not play at all this year!! Save his body for next season when he will be paid; be it by the phins or someone else. If they franchise him fine hes gonna get his due. But would you really tag a player that just held out a full season?

Why needn't the owners honor their contracts?

Ohh yeah Fire Ireland!!

How many sacks did Dansby have? 6 in 3 years?

Look, is Wake worth a butt load of money? Probably not. I just don't believe he is asking for a butt load of money. Yet, we manage to keep Dansby at a higher price than he is worth.

Why can't Dansby renegotiate his contract to give Wake a little more cash?

Ohio Dolfan is a piece of sh*t. All the morons talk about over there is the draft and stupid football crap over and over and over again.

I hope his wife dies in a freakin car accident.

Posted by: Loser | April 16, 2012 at 11:08 AM

Your a F U C K I N G A S S H O L E!!

DC Dolphin,

These chips the players use can be very disruptive to the team as a whole. The frachise tag is still a hefty paycheck and it is guaranteed. Can't be a slap in the face if they agreed to it. I see your point but I just don't like the way they go about disputing it.

Ok, even if it was intended as a joke, that's going to far Loser. Hoping a guy's wife dies who's never done anything to you. Only in your sick fyucking head is that funny.

Go the fyuck back to elementary school you piece of shyt.

Mando, SERIOUSLY? This is what you're accepting now?

Coach, not saying I agree or disagree, it's just the way both sides use whatever leverage they may have.

I agree, in the end, Wake should report.

Loser, I dont care how much you hate someone, your comment is complete BS! Seriously, you have crossed a serious line there... It needs to stop.

Armando, trolling is 1 thing. What loser said is pretty out there.

Whatever, I hate the guy. Armando probably hates the guy too.

And his blog is full of a bunch of idiots just like DC and Craig M, going on and on about pointless Dolphins crap.

He is what my name says.....and I wish him the worst!

Armando
Is it true that the long snapper makes more money than Wake? What's up with that??? Pay the damn man!!!!!

It is true that Craig M & DC have their annoying qualities. This makes them easy targets.

There are more cheerleaders, know it alls, yes men, fan boys...but, wishing death on someone is totally off pudding.

You can dismiss bloggers by simply pointing out their arrogance & stupidity. No need to bring the Grimm Reaper into the mix.

Ohio crossed the line first.

I just finished it.

bam

And he's too much of a punk to get in here and respond to me

ALoco go play in traffic you turd.

fake loser @ 11:44 AM

Yes, no leverage. Simple matter of contract law. He is under contract through this year already. Team has no obligation to give him the gift of restructuring. A contract is a contract. He's in a contract year, so he had better play well this year.

Why do people feel the need to call out the fake posts? As if the people with brains in here can't tell the difference.

Just wanted everyone to know, I'm not a troll.

I just hate Ohio and his family.

Gee "Mando" -- thanks for directing the ignorant masses to look up that the phrase "tilting at windmills" derives from Don Quixote. We thought it came from Harry Potter and the Tilting Windmills -- you condescending little snot.

Yes, no leverage. Simple matter of contract law. He is under contract through this year already. Team has no obligation to give him the gift of restructuring. A contract is a contract. He's in a contract year, so he had better play well this year.

Posted by: Tim Couch | April 16, 2012 at 11:46 AM

If players should play out the contracts they signed, shouldn't teams let players play them out? How often do you see players cut with years remaining on their contracts? Almost all the time. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Hopefully you now see how idiotic your statement was.

OK. I usually just like to read this blog every now n then and never really post, but after seeing so many football illiterate fans down our BEST and cheapest Def player for dropping from 14.5 to 8 sacks i have to say something. in the 2011-2012 season C Wake developed something that hr didnt have before. the ability to set the edge on run plays.

First we have to realize that these plays are human like us and also get tired. once wake started reserving some of his energy on some pass rush plays and using that energy on setting the edge he became less of a pass rusher and more of a line backer.

sometimes in 2010 he would run after the qb in full speed even if the qb was long out of the pocket and scrambling down the opposite side. yes its great effort but he usually pays if the next play is a run.

Also it does help his case that he was double teamed more this year than last year because he was no longer our little secret and teams now fear him

with the motor he has if he gave his all on both run plays AND pass plays he'll be done by the 3rd quarter. he has to balance it out and i think he found that balance. DO NOT PASS OR RUN TO HIS SIDE. pay the man!

players**

DC, Poizen,

Why you care about Ohio's wife so much anyway?

With the Cap restraints the Dolphins have this year, he will not be extended until after the season. The Dolphins don't have the cap to give him a new contract. Next year the Dolphins will have the cap space. Ireland knows we need to resign him, but if we don't have the cap space this year, he'll have to wait till after the season. The only way I see an extension happening is if he extends with his current cap hit for this year and paying his signing bonus and salary make-up for this year to hit next year's cap OR they get Jake Long's contract settled to free up some space to sign Wake. BIM

Win, Loose, or Tie... Dolphins till' I Die!!!

This shows you how bad this Franchise is. Give the man his new contract! Hi has worked his ass off for it. This "mafia way" of operating is what has destroyed this team. "we know something they don't know, this is business". Pay the guy who is your best LB. Let him focus in training and avoid distractions.. Gee give me this franchise for 3 years and see what happens...

@Justin Credible: But he's under contract that he signed 3 years ago. Yes he's due a raise, but if we don't have the cap space to pay him, why extend his contract now?? We will have it next year so he needs to be patient. The only way to get him signed is if Jake Long restructures. We gave him his shot, he's outplayed his contract because he is NFL material, now he has to honor what he's signed. If Miami doesn't want to pay him next year, then so be it. That is the business side of the NFL and like they say "business is business." I want Cam resigned like yesterday, but Miami doesn't have the funds this year to extend.

Win, Loose, or Tie... Dolphins till' I Die!!!

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