The Dolphins returned to an old tradition today, once again gathering in front of the Greater Miami Chamber of Commerce, to signal the unoffical start to regular-season kickoff functions. In previous years Dolphins coaches got in front of luncheon attendees and told them the Dolphins were Super Bowl contenders or playoff contenders or just plain had a chance to be special.
What did Joe Philbin tell the business community today?
In part, he made it clear the success or failure his teams is on players rather than coaches.
"Players are 90 percent of the equation, coaches are 10 percent," Philbin said, according to Barry Jackson of The Miami Herald.
It is clear listening to Philbin these past couple of weeks and months, he doesn't think much of schemes or strategies being the difference between champions and chumps. He gives the credit for success on the field to the talent on the field. And, it should be noted, he puts much of the blame for failure on the field to the talent on the field.
This is an interesting view of things only because the reason Philbin is Miami's coach today is because Dolphins ownership and, to a large degree the personnel department, believed the Dolphins were a sufficiently talented team that needed only minor tweaking and improving. Ownership and the personnel department saw this team as one that could take a new step forward if a better coach milked the grand potential out of the roster.
In other words, the folks that hired Philbin believed a coaching change would drastically improve Miami's results.
Yet Philbin seems to think a coach can only determine 10 percent of a team's fortunes.
Neither view is wrong. But it does give pause that the views are so opposing.
Saban is a p***y coach and was s**t; he realized early once he couldnt get every single player he wanted that he wasn't able to do it at this level because he's a good college recruiter, not a good coach....wannstead had to be our last solid coach, since the adult film star left we haven't had one; hopefully Philbin changes that.
Posted by: MiamiD20 | August 28, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Does anyone else get the feeling that Joe Philbin has already lost the locker room? I think he is the second coming of Cam CaMORON.
Posted by: albert | August 28, 2012 at 03:08 PM
Wannstadt took over a pretty good Bears team and in two years they had a horrible season soon after he was canned, Same thing in Miami, Took over a good team and ran it into the ground in 3 years.
Dave wannstadt is one of the worse coaches not named Sporono.
Posted by: Coalitiom To Ban Ireland.(And Odin) | August 28, 2012 at 03:08 PM
Yes, Albert, I do. I've said it for weeks.
1-15 this year, if we get a lucky bounce.
Posted by: FASUCKO | August 28, 2012 at 03:09 PM
I don't know what the percentages are, but it's brain over bron for me.
Remember how ineffective we were last year to score inside the redzone? The plays were as simple and as ineffective as can be. I didn't see a lack of talent there. I saw plays my 83 year old mother could call, and she doesn't know a wip about football.
Philbin is a smart guy who is also covering his backside here.
Posted by: Tim Wellington | August 28, 2012 at 03:09 PM
I would limit Tanneyhill to 3 sacks a game and then put Don Strock in. Then by 2022 when we have some good players, he will still be healthy enough to show us what he can do with decent players around him.
Posted by: Gene Simmons | August 28, 2012 at 03:09 PM
Wanstat had to run Rickey because Johnson got rid of all our good offensive players and play book. We lead the league in yardage the last few years under Shula.
Posted by: Gene Simmons | August 28, 2012 at 03:11 PM
Cam Philbin, its on the players? YOU DONT HAVE ANY PLAYERS! DUUUUUHHH!
Posted by: Jeffrow | August 28, 2012 at 03:12 PM
The sad thing is that we, the fans, can actually imagine 0-16. We saw 1-15 that was almost 0-16, then we saw an 0-7 start and now this year we've dropped the only playmakers on that team, which finished 6-3 shoulda been 8-1 including victories over the Giants and Pats, which are the 2 super bowl teams.
Posted by: FASUCKO | August 28, 2012 at 03:13 PM
Jay Fiedler was unable to throw the ball 40 yards. Forget a frozen rope; he could not throw it 40 yards, period, even with a high arc.
I don't understand how he got to be the starter, no questions asked, no QB competition, for like 6 years.
Yet he and Wannstache did usually go 11-5 or 10-6. Those were the days.
Posted by: FASUCKO | August 28, 2012 at 03:14 PM
Cooley has been average or hurt for 5 years. He's 30, can't block like Fasano, Mastrud or Lane, has a 3mil/yr. salary and a bad knee. NO CHANCE.
Posted by: Chris | August 28, 2012 at 03:15 PM
I wish we had Wannstedt instead of Cameron, Sparano, or Philbin. he was the last good coach we've had.
Posted by: Zonk | August 28, 2012 at 03:16 PM
Loved the episode where Idiot Ireland is sitting in his chair explaining "We have 4,5,and 6 type recievers, What we need are 1 and two type recievers"
Ross should have fired him right then, But Ross being football Dunb must not have put 1 Plus One together.
Posted by: Coalitiom To Ban Ireland.(And Odin) | August 28, 2012 at 03:16 PM
Fasucko, Yes, 1-15 or 2-14. New GM, New Coach, (AGAIN) and unfortunately same owner next year.
Posted by: albert | August 28, 2012 at 03:19 PM
You are not being truthful, Armando(you are angry). Philbin is saying that the Players on the field must want to play and have the ability to do it. Coaches cannot play for them.
Posted by: oscar canosa | August 28, 2012 at 03:24 PM
Ireland went up into the broadcast booth during the 2nd quarter of the Carolina game. The announcer asked him "Whats the extent of Garrard's knee injury?" Ireland responded with "Well....he's not in there tonight." What a jackoff!
Posted by: Zonk | August 28, 2012 at 03:26 PM
"This is an interesting view of things only because the reason Philbin is Miami's coach today is because Dolphins ownership and, to a large degree the personnel department, believed the Dolphins were a sufficiently talented team that needed only minor tweaking and improving."
True, but that "sufficiently talented team" included both B. Marshall and V. Davis. The team now has considerably less talent than it did when Philbin was hired.
Posted by: ithaca phin fan | August 28, 2012 at 03:27 PM
It's amazing how far this franchise has gone in the toilet when we have people saying Wanstadt was the last good head coach we had. Wanstadt is so bad he could not get a HC job in the NFL even if he worked for free.
Posted by: albert | August 28, 2012 at 03:28 PM
Ireland was very angry that night, as I'm sure all the Coaches were, for the fuc-up of the Team in the first half.
Posted by: oscar canosa | August 28, 2012 at 03:29 PM
oscar, these players have no ability. dont you get it?
Posted by: mike | August 28, 2012 at 03:30 PM
Indeed, probably my favorite Hard Knocks scene ever.
Ireland himself, in a candid moment, admits to failing the Fans, Mr. Ross and the Team.
Again, it goes back to his intelligence level. I'll give him credit for being honest, but C'Mon. Ireland should fire himself.
Ireland: "Hi everybody, I'm Jeff Ireland. I've been working here for 4 years trying to get us a WR. I got alot of paychecks but NOT a WR in sight.
I'll bet he's so dumb, he thinks this gives him some job security.
Posted by: Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of the Closet | August 28, 2012 at 03:31 PM
Aurelius Benn to the Dolphins from Tampa for a #2 Pick.
Posted by: D | August 28, 2012 at 03:31 PM
You could be the most talented Player in the World and not want to play, then you are less than worthless for the Team. That is a common sense fact. Look where Vontae is now.
Posted by: oscar canosa | August 28, 2012 at 03:33 PM
yeah albert how dumb of me on wanny. 4 out 5 winning seasons, awful right
Posted by: bill connors | August 28, 2012 at 03:35 PM
Well, hate to be Parcellean, but Philbin has not been able to shop for the groceries, therefore he is limited as to the quality of what's on the plate. And the grocery shopping in the past has been atrocious at best. (barring Long and Tannehill)
And let's see, who has been doing the shopping?
Posted by: The real G | August 28, 2012 at 03:36 PM
Wanny looks like Vince Lombardi compared to Saban, Cameron, Sparano and Philbin.
Posted by: Ron Son | August 28, 2012 at 03:37 PM
Aloco you are such a phony and your posts are annoyingly boring. Same crap over and over. The whole shtick is so stupid and obvious to anyone with a brain. That is not you, you are an impostor who uses multiple names and personalities. Phins78 called you out, asked for an explanation, gave you a chance and you ignored it. Because he was right, you're a phony. How many characters do you play in this blog? So stupid.
Posted by: Jack Sparrow | August 28, 2012 at 03:39 PM
If the Dolphins get of to another bad start they won't have 20,000 fans at No Life Stadium by years end.
Posted by: albert | August 28, 2012 at 03:39 PM
exactly
Posted by: bill connors | August 28, 2012 at 03:39 PM
Why do some talented Players we have don't want to play for Philbin? The reasons for that are irrelevant as Philbin is the Boss now and will do whatever he thinks is best, hopefully for the Team and also hopefully that it works out.
Posted by: oscar canosa | August 28, 2012 at 03:39 PM
Good God. Coalition to get Coalition are in agreement.
The Mayans were wrong, The end of the world is Today.
Posted by: Coalitiom To Ban Ireland.(And Odin) | August 28, 2012 at 03:39 PM
yeah albert how dumb of me on wanny. 4 out 5 winning seasons, awful right
Posted by: bill connors | August 28, 2012 at 03:35 PM
Don't be so hard on yourself Bill. All you need is a good editor.
"yeah albert how awful dumb of me right?"
Posted by: bill connors | August 28, 2012 at 03:35 PM
Posted by: Editor | August 28, 2012 at 03:41 PM
We won with Wanny because he put his best against your best and we had the better players most of the time. That is how Shottenhiemer worked.
Posted by: Gene Simmons | August 28, 2012 at 03:41 PM
Could have benn worse for Vontae, he could have been sent to GB.
Posted by: oscar canosa | August 28, 2012 at 03:42 PM
Ron Son,
Yeah, and Charles Manson looks like Mother Theresa next to Hitler and Stalin.
Posted by: albert | August 28, 2012 at 03:42 PM
Who is this Aurelius Benn?
Posted by: oscar canosa | August 28, 2012 at 03:43 PM
Didnt Wanny win coach of the year in Chicago? And about 100 NFL games?
Posted by: Ron Son | August 28, 2012 at 03:43 PM
schott won a ton of games everywhere he went. agree on stadium. they might hit historical lows this year on fans
Posted by: bill connors | August 28, 2012 at 03:43 PM
Hope most Miami fans learn from this. Sparano was no jewel but it's the players.
Posted by: ltcdolphin | August 28, 2012 at 03:43 PM
Dolphins ownership and, to a large degree the personnel department, believed the Dolphins were a sufficiently talented team that needed only minor tweaking and improving."
And they were dead wrong, everyone knows it except them. Ireland has to go, period. Look you stupid idiots. Everyone hates Ireland and wants him fired because he sucks at getting talent for the team. Philbin just said that same exact thing without saying it and you want to crucify him for it. Do you people have one brain between you? Are you really this dumb?
Posted by: Clue | August 28, 2012 at 03:45 PM
id take wanny and bates anyday over this garbage
Posted by: bill connors | August 28, 2012 at 03:45 PM
Sparano never had a chance because of Irescum. Philbin is doomed for the same reason.
Posted by: MJ | August 28, 2012 at 03:45 PM
Bill Connors,
"Wanny" took a fairly good team that Jimmy Johnson left him and did nothing but run it into the ground. By the time he got fired the Dolphins were in the shape that they are in now. He was so bad that Ricky Williams quit on him and called him a clown.
Posted by: albert | August 28, 2012 at 03:45 PM
Good God. Coalition to get Coalition are in agreement.
The Mayans were wrong, The end of the world is Today.
Posted by: Coalitiom To Ban Ireland.(And Odin) |
August 28, 2012 at 03:39 PM
Hey, at least they were close.
Posted by: Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet | August 28, 2012 at 03:46 PM
bill, me too. Wanny won lots of games for us.
Posted by: Zonk | August 28, 2012 at 03:47 PM
jimmy left him a horrible team with marino retiring , team was old and done, jacksonville 62-7 showed that
Posted by: bill connors | August 28, 2012 at 03:47 PM
Who is this Aurelius Benn?
Posted by: oscar canosa | August 28, 2012 at 03:43 PM
You answered your own question.
Posted by: Reality Check | August 28, 2012 at 03:48 PM
Yes lets bring back the mediocre Wanny because our 3 game preseason record with a first time head coach new offense and new defense is 0-3. Why not hurl ourselves back into mediocrity, Wanny is great at that. "We're sick of being bad, we want to be forever mediocre again"!" Why have patience and let a coach build a program, we're Dolphins fans, if they don't work out in the first four games fire them and start over, we will do this every year until we blindly stumble onto something in 20 years"!!!!!!
Posted by: Clue | August 28, 2012 at 03:48 PM
I think Wannstadt has a few SB rings also albeit as DC.
Posted by: Ron Son | August 28, 2012 at 03:49 PM
Hope most Miami fans learn from this. Sparano was no jewel but it's the players.
Posted by: ltcdolphin | August 28, 2012 at 03:43 PM
Sparano's firing was pointless because Ireland should have gone too. Ireland is the perfect GM for Sparano. He loves the big bodies!
Keeping Ireland to draft players for a WC scheme which he has no experience in? Well, I don't need to tell you it doesn't make sense.
Posted by: The truth is... | August 28, 2012 at 03:50 PM
Aurelius Benn? I think its a constellation in the sky.
Posted by: Ron Son | August 28, 2012 at 03:51 PM
wanny would never take this job, nobody else would right now. until ireland is fired philbin is the guy. i hope philbin shows promise so when the new gm takes over in january he doesnt fire him
Posted by: bill connors | August 28, 2012 at 03:51 PM
Wanny also hung a bunch of Lobster traps in the locker room to tell the players they were playing in a trap game. JT and Zach walked in and laughed their azzes off. JT told the media Wanny had lost the locker room at that point. Wanny went to Pitt and destroyed their program. Yeah lets hire him back. Bill you sir are an ignoramus.
Posted by: Clue | August 28, 2012 at 03:51 PM
Dolphins ownership and, to a large degree the personnel department, believed the Dolphins were a sufficiently talented team that needed only minor tweaking and improving."
Are you guys really this gullible?
This is Armando trying to make something out of nothing.
You don't start the season 0-7 and fire the entire coaching staff because you think you need a tweak.
Somebody is tweaking if they're buying this garbage.
ROTFLMAO!
Posted by: Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet | August 28, 2012 at 03:52 PM
Have we signed Cooley yet????
Posted by: Kris | August 28, 2012 at 03:52 PM
IRELAND WILL BE GONE SOON.THE COACH IS GONNA TAKE CONTROL OF THE PERSONAL..
Posted by: THETRUTH | August 28, 2012 at 03:52 PM
The dink and dunk "WCO" sucks, just like the "spread" run by Sissy former UF coach fagmanz boy at UF who left like a piussy and now coaches even though he said he had 2 weeks to live which was why he quit.
It sucks.
What you do in the NFL is you have a FB and a TE. Big ones.
Posted by: FASUCKO | August 28, 2012 at 03:53 PM
Bro, more nuggets here or diamonds in the rough we don't want. He'd better produce, let's say, as of tomorrow.
Posted by: oscar canosa | August 28, 2012 at 03:53 PM
Lets fire the coach! Sparano and Ireland made this team worse in every way every year they were and are here but its Philbins fault they dont play well! Idiots, seriously, not a brain between you.
Posted by: Clue | August 28, 2012 at 03:53 PM
Oye oye. I proclaim myself "Anthony Fasano," and you must understand that I SUCK.
I will remind you of same thrice daily.
Posted by: FASUCKO | August 28, 2012 at 03:54 PM