Garrard leads quarterback competition, Tannehill closing

The coming week will lead the Dolphins into Friday's preseason-opener against Tampa Bay at Sun Life Stadium.

So as to the all-important daily gauge of the quarterback competition I tell you David Garrard has earned the opportunity to start the preseason as Miami's starter. I'm not saying that's how it will be. Truth is Matt Moore was the first to go with the first-team on the first-day of practice and Ryan Tannehill will eventually be Miami's starting quarterback.

But Garrard has been consistently the best quarterback in camp so far. Tannehill, it must be said, was the most impressive quarterback at Saturday's scrimmage.

That should not discount a solid week's worth of practices.

And all this calls into question what to do with Matt Moore. Well, he needs to get on his horse if he's going to stay viable in this competition. Folks around training camp keep saying he's a "gamer" who often plays better than he practices.

Well, he better show that in the preseason because he's been lagging behind more than probably he would be satisfied with during practice.

Until then, I believe Garrard has earned the privilege of starting the preseason-opener against Tampa Bay.

Comments

[Yesterday's Gone]

CraigM,

Last I checked Tom Brady isnt our starter. Mallet is Brady's heir apparent, or nessentially his backup. Hoyer is backup qb/st's/wr. Last I checked, Moore has zero multiple talents.

Hoyer "earns" his roster spot due to multiple value. Guaranteed if Brady goes down it will be Mallett, not Hoyer, that comes in.

[Craig M]

Space,

Huh?....what logic do you follow bud? Wouldn't the logic be that Brady is a star, will always play and therefore there's no real value in carrying three QBs? What am I missing here? BB is saying, we have a guy in Mallett who can't even beat out Hoyer as the backup right now, so we're going to carry a guy like Hoyerto back Brady up. Don't change the argument. The argument was 'anyone who knows anything about football knows you don't carry three QB's'. I'm saying that's bunk, and the Colts are a proime example of a team that needed and should have had more at the position. Of course, you'd do the same as them and carry another RB or lineman. Great move!

[bill connors]

id take that bet yg, hoyer is solid

[John "The Dolfan"]

This team is more talented then you think. I think they can contend for a playoof berth. If Garrard gives us a shot at the postseason so be it. But if Tannehill is playing well enough to overtake Garrard let him start. I am in favor of trial by fire. The way Peyton Manning, and Troy Aikmen started their careers. Let them learn during real games, the faster he develops the quicker we get to a SuperBowl!

[Craig M]

YG,

It will? Is that why Mallett never saw the field at all last year? You're claiming that Hoyer the backup, played WR and ST's for the Pats last year? Care to back that up with some stats?

Even Andy Reid, who knows a little bit about football, chose to carry three QBs in McNabb, Vick and Kolb. Guess Reid doesn't know too much about football either.

[bill connors]

yes john goes gboth ways though. eli,rodgers,marino,brady,etc waited

[bill connors]

very sad for andy reid, thoughts and prayers go out to him

[Craig M]

John Fox is anothr guy who must not know too much about football. Kept Orton, Tebow and Brady. Damn that Fox.....when will he ever learn?

[Yesterday's Gone]

CraigM,

Anyway, Mallet was drafted 3rd rd, not 8th overall. Vick had just gotten out of prison, missed 2 full seasons, and they were looking at him as a wildcat qb prospect only. The situations you keep bringing up to support your lunacy are pretty much moot at best.

[bill connors]

he learns now, manning

[Space]

Craig

Show me where each team has a Belichek guide so that they can mirror what he does.

Long and short of it, I put my money on the loser of the battle not being on the team com opening day.

[Yesterday's Gone]

Craigm @ 3:44PM,

In this post you pretty make the case of 3 qb's not needed. Orton was benched, Tebow played, and 3rd strineger Brady Quinn never saw the playing field. What was his value?

[Space]

Craig m

A few years back, NE versus Indy. 4th quarter. NE's ball in the waning minutes with a lead. Belichek goes for it on 4th down deep in his own territory and in the end, loses the game.

So, are you saying because BB made that call that it now makes sense for all teams to go for it on 4th down deep in your own territory?

[Craig M]

YG,

You're completely changing the argument now. Original point was 'anyone who knows anything about football doesn't keep three QBs'. I've given you examples of guys who did. How about Pete Carroll in Seattle? Think he'll carry three QBs in Seattle this year? Only won National Championships in College. Guess he doesn't know much about football either.

Still waiting for the stats of Hoyer playing STs and WR for the Pats and the 'added value' you talk about. Send them to me when you can. Thanks.

[Space]

My point is only that every situation is different. Just because BB did something does not mean its automatic justification for the whole world to follow.

[Craig M]

Space? WTF are you talking about? The argument was that teams that know anything about football don't carry three QBs. I'm saying ours aren't good enough and we'd be better of carrying three rather than getting rid of Moore for a low draft pick or worse nothing. Pretty sure the Raiders had three decent guys at the position last year too.

You're talking about play that Bellicheck called. How does that enter into the conversation?

[Craig M]

'Anybody that knows anything about football knows you don't carry three QBs'. That's the argument. Space, not sure what the Hell else you are talking about. Stick to the topic.

[bill connors]

raiders? i dont remember any of them being decent,lol

[Space]

Craig

I'm not on that argument. Someone else is. The real question if you are bringing BB into it is what would BB do given our roster? We'll never know. You say we keep all three, I say we keep the top 2 and get something for the 3rd while we can.

We will know soon enough which it will be.

[Craig M]

I guess Mike Tomlin must have been another idiot who knows nothing about football when he carried Big Ben, Batch and Leftwich. Must have been pure luck that he won a ring.

[Yesterday's Gone]

CraigM,

Because you brought up teams having 3 qb's and Ive shown you they never hit the playing field those years, Im changing the argument? that's dead on argument. The argument is value of hving 3 qb's.

Even worse for Moore, he's a fa at season's end, he loses to Garrard he doesnt get resigned. So why give him a valuable roster spot and pay him a few millions to do absolutely nothing?

In the very least it's unwise use of team cap money. There's probably a 99.9% chance a 3rd string qb never sees the playing field. Guess you wanna cover the .9% chance he does. We really need you making these cap decisions for us. LOL

[Space]

We don't have a future HOF starting QB and perennial playoff appearances. We don't have the luxuries that NE or Pitt has had. We have been way far behind them. Therefore with each of our roster spots is that much more imperative we keep the players that will help us the most to win. A 3rd string qb is not likely to play at all and if he does, your season is gone anyway at that point.

[Craig M]

Space,

I'm just talking about 'everybody knows you don't keep three QBs' argument. That's ALL I'm talking about. That's why I brought up BB. You're bringing up playing calling and I'm going HUH?

Our QBs aren't good enough to carry just two and injuries WILL happen. I'll take my chances on a guy like Moore having more impact for this team and you can tell me I'm wrong and guy like Slaton or McQuistan will have more impact. Let's see who's right.

[Yesterday's Gone]

Tomlin carried 3 qb's because Ben got hurt. CraigM, please quit while you're behind.

Which each new example you better support our argument.

[Craig M]

Space and YG,

So the third stringer at QB won't have much impact on a teams's season? Is that why a guy like Tebow was 3rd or even 4th string last year in camp and went on to lead his team to the playoffs last year? Sheer coincidence, right? Couldn't happen again, nah. I guess you forget that a guy like Fitzpatrick in Buffalo was third string, right and now is being looked at to lead his team to the playoffs. I'm not saying Moore is a star but the way QBs drop like stones in this league is reason enough to keep him on the team. Moore's a battler....this battle for the starter spot isn't over yet.

[bill connors]

most teams carrying 3

[Craig M]

bill,

EXACTLY....that's my point. Unless you've got a future Hall of Fame QB, you don't need to carry three QBs. We don't have that.

YG, go back and check your facts. Tomlin carried three QBs LONG before Big Ben got hurt. Double check your facts, bud.

[Yesterday's Gone]

CraigM,

Unless you have Tom Brady as your starter, carrying 3 qb's means having 3 qb's not quite good enough anyway.

This argument never started because of teams that had 3 qb's. You turned it into that. It been about a need to keep Matt Moore as a 3rd qb if he loses out to Matt Moore and T-hill catches or surpasses him in preseason and training camp action.

The greatest deterrent to this is both Garrard and Moore are fa's next season. Even on that alone, what does it profit to keep the loser? There's a 99.9% chance they never see the playing field in 2012 regular season action anyway.

Also, like others have said, if our starter goes down more likely than not our season's disaster anyway. 3rd string qb or not.

[Craig M]

YG,

Why are you talking about NEXT year. It's THIS year we're working on. NEXT year is irrelevant. It's a million years away. It's about this YEAR and getting this team to the playoffs. Getting a 5th or 7th for Moore or cutting does nothing for the team THIS year. NEXT year? We've haven't even played a snap yet and you're onto next year. RIDICULOUS! And salary cap? How does Moore at $2.5 millon affect our salary cap this year? You don't think the team has taken that into account? Hardly big money!

[NYFIN]

there's only 1 QB that has played great for the Dolphins already.....MATT MOORE! He'll start till we're out of the playoffs then Tannehill starts.

[Space]

Yes, the argument isn't about some golden rule about how many qb's to keep. The argument is about this teams current roster and what makes the most sense. No other teams previous decisions has any bearing on it.

[Darryl Dunphy]

..Value or not. Every team in the league carries 3 quarterbacks. This is a no brainer..Go look at the rosters of every team...Each has at least 3 and some have 1 on the practice squad..The new rules even allow for the third guy to suit up and not be inactive on Sundays...And actually the odds are that your starter will not make it through the season without missing time. You need a backup to a backup..Even if that player never sees the field..every team has a third qb.

[Yesterday's Gone]

DD,

The entire argument has been about the possibility of what could happen to the loser of the Moore/Garrard loser. Nothing more, nothing less. CraigM stepped in and started making everything take sharp geometric turns.

Also, I doubt all 32 teams carry a third string qb on thier 53 man roster. We carried only 2 last season. Like you said, even the ones that do make him gameday inactive. But it still takes away a final roster spot to do even this.

There's always the "POSSIBILTY" of carrying only 2 qb's. CraigM makes it seem its written in stone this team has to carry 3.

[captcrunch]

They should keep Garard, Moore and Tannehill for the season anyway...

[This Is Better Than Sominex]

Did you guys all take a boring pill today? Good Christ, so many words saying nothing at all.

[Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet]

I think Craig is schooling them today.

1. Miami WILL carry 3 this year. With a vet coming off a year vacation/back surgery and a Rookie with just 19 collegiate starts, it would be an incredibly ignorant gamble to just carry 2. ROTFLMAO!

2. The MAIN reason teams started to only carry 2 QB's in the first place was the salary cap. With WR's and DE's, etc, etc getting 50 and 60 million dollar deals, teams couldn't afford to carry 3 QB's.

Carrying 3 was ALWAYS the norm until economics squashed it. Now, with the rookie salary caps, we'll see most teams going back to carrying 3. Actually, I think most teams already are.

[Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet]

I want Tannehill to be Super Man, Spider Man and Bat Man all rolled into one.

But come on now. He had two good showings against mainly 2nd and 3 team back ups and scrubs. The majority of which won't even make the Team - lol.

Now were talking about cutting the guy that loses the Moore-Garrard battle?

Really? What happens if Tannehill falls flat or throws 3 picks against Tampa's scrubs? You think that might have some bearing on the "Situation"? ;)

Out of all things Dolphins to talk about, it's whether or not we carry 2 or 3? No thanks.

I'd rather talk about how impressive Oliver has been. The Coaches and Players have been raving about his pass rushing skills.

[Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet]

Anybody find the stats on special teams Ace Brian Hoyer?

[promichael]

Armondo,

You sound like a reporter and not a GM or coach; looking at what happened yesterday and drawing to many conclusions. Moore played with the second offense against the first defense. Moreover we need to see all QB's perform in a live preseason game. To me keeping 3 QB's makes sense. Moore is seven years younger than Gerrard who is coming off not playing under pressure for more than a year. There are many factors when everything becomes live. We have to wait for preseason and even then keeping all three quarterbacks is the best course.

[ALoco]

BREAKING NEWS..LOOKS LIKE CHAD HENNE WILL START FOR THE JAX .......

[Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet]

Hicks is holding off Steinbach for now. Together they make John(I wanna Big Mac)Jerry expendable.

Martin has passed up Murtha and is transitioning well.

And to think, SpOrano started Carey and "Saw The Tape" on Colombo.

Everybody keeps talking QB and thats understandable. But Philbin/Ireland have quietly put together what looks like a formidible run game.

The Line has improved big time. Even some quality depth. That's not all, even the scheme has changed for the better.

Thomas showed some skills in the scrimmage. Miller looks like the steal of the draft. And Bush is Bush. With Philbin/Sherman, I'm betting his skills will be used much......MUCH better than last year.

Whoever ends being the QB, it looks like they'll be getting a TON of help from the Run Game!

[Craig M]

promichael,

Some guys have Moore gone from this team ONE week into camp. Doesn't matter they haven't played any games yet or that he played well last year (and don't buy the crap that he didn't play any teams of significance. This is the NFL and not pop warner football. He was the 12th rated QB last year and stats don't lie). But let's not pay attention to that. Let's ship him off to some other team for something of significance like a 5th or 7th round pick.

Be thankful that some of these clowns aren't running our team. Wake and Long would be traded after a couple of bad games.

[Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet]

ALoco,

Where did you hear Henne is starting?

Everything I've read said Gabbert was named the starter and nothings changed.

I did read that Gabbert has looked atrocious at times during camp. Post a link, I want to read about it.

[Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet]

Excerpt from Jax's first scrimmage:

* A total of seven dropped passes, most of them when backup quarterback Chad Henne was on the field. Tight end Colin Cloherty had two drops, saying: "I just didn't look it all the way in. One mistake became two. After that, I played better and had a special-teams tackle."
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Poor Guy, some things never change............

[ALoco]

coailition................

LINK MY,FOOT..........I SEE THINGS,I HEAR THINGS ..I DON'T BELIVE THESE DONKEYS WHO WRITE POSTS ON LINE FOR US TO READ AND BELIVE THEIR CRAP LIKE ARMANDO .............

HENNE WILL STRAT BY WEEK 3 ,,,,,,

[NYFIN]

Henne couldnt start for a CFL team. He's just terrible.

[Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet]

Craig,

What happened to the guys you were debating?

EveryONE of them "ALL" disappeared at EXACTLY the same time.......

Hmmmmmmmmmm.........

[ALoco]

WILL SEE WHO WILL BE AHEAD THIS SEASON;;;;;;;;

DOLPHINS OR

THE
JAX ................

[Rich]

Hey ALoco, do you have the videotape of the Heat beating the Celtics?

Thanks.

[Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet]

ALoco,

You are right, Henne will be the starter. Gabbert still isn't ready.......or just doesn't have it.

Too bad for Jax, MJD and Blackmon are Holdouts.

[ALoco]

RICH...THE CELTICS GAVE THE GAMES TO THE HEST TO MAKE THE NBA MORE INTERESTING ,,

[ALoco]

ALL WHAT GABBERT HAS IS ...A GOOD HAIR ,,,,,,,,,,

[Rich]

RICH...THE CELTICS GAVE THE GAMES TO THE HEST TO MAKE THE NBA MORE INTERESTING ,,

Posted by: ALoco | August 05, 2012 at 06:59 PM

((((BUFFET OF BOOLSHEET))))

[ALoco]

RICH..

IT'S A FACT ..TO MAKE THE NBA MORE INTERESTING ,YOU GOT TO HAVE MORE TEAMS WIN THE TITLE ,SO THE TICKETS SELL AND THE DONKEYS STAY HAPPY .....

[NYFIN]

How long till Henne gets booed in Jax?

[Keyser Soze]

I see Village Idiot Odin (VIO) stopped by to talk his typical babble. I must say the blog overall has been NOTICABLY more peaceful and pleasnt to read lately since he stopped bombarding the blog so often with his usual nonsense.

I urge all fellow bloggers to continue to avoid responding to him and with luck he will go away for good.

[ALoco]

HENNE FOUND HIE PEACE WITH THE JAX....HE'S A BACK UP WHO WILL START AND SAVE THE DAY ,NOT LIKE WHEN HE WAS WITH DOLPHINS ..THE PRESSURE IS OFF AND LIFE IS GOOD WITH 7 MILLION A YEAR ON TOP OF THAT,,,,

[ALoco]

HIS PEACE

[Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet]

Keyser Soze?

What kind of name is THAT?

Sounds like a Hick from DikLickersville!

You just worry about convincing your fellow hicks that your Aunt(the one you married), REALLY isn't your first cousin(wink, wink)

Fvcking DikWad! ROTFLMAO!

[ray]

I have question about Tannehill having a good scrimmage! I read that Tannehill played against second team defense! Or as you know by now I'm stupid I can't spell Gerrard name, and someone posted that Tannehill completed all those passes, and imagine what Brady is going to do against us! But I might be wrong but I could have sworn Tannehill played against second string players! Any comments!! And another thing that I don't understand why does the coaches mix match the starters on offense against second string and first string defense against second string offense! Any body catch that or I'm just stupid?? Ok don't answer that I know it!! Your thoughts!! Let's all give out a prayer for Andy Reid and family! My condolence to the Reid family...