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Joe Philbin discusses Carolina loss, upcoming week

Joe Philbin says most of the Dolphins systems have been installed. That's good. But obviously no one has won the starting quarterback job so he's not certain if he's going to name a starting QB this week as he hoped to do. That's not so good.

This the rest of what the Dolphins coach told the media today:

(On what the team has accomplished since training camp started) – “We’ve got our entire, 98 percent of our offensive, defensive and special teams systems in place. We’ve covered a myriad of situations from backed up, two-minute, four-minute, goal line, red zone, short yardage, last plays of the game… hurry up, third-and-one, quarterback sneak, run-on field goal, onside kicks. I think we’ve done a good job situationally. I think our team is in relatively good physical condition. I think they’ve practiced extremely hard. We’ve accomplished an awful lot – three-quarters of the way, two-thirds of the way through an evaluation process in terms of how we’re going to formulate this roster. Certainly, we haven’t had the tangible results in the on the field success in the competitive games that we would like to have that we anticipate having. I think we’ve had a very productive camp.”

(On if the goal this week is to treat the week of preparation like a regular season game) – “To a large degree. It’s not totally, but to a large degree, yes. Today, for the players, is like a Monday. For the coaches, it’s kind of like a Monday and a Tuesday. We’re combining things because we got back so late from Carolina. We didn’t want to bring the players in yesterday. We wanted to give them a day off. We brought them in here this morning as if they had played a game yesterday, much like we’ll do September 10th. They’ve lifted already or in the process of, actually they’re done lifting. We’re going to have a team meeting at 12:30 where we’re going to begin the process of re-visiting the Carolina game and making the corrections that we think, obviously there’s a lot to be made. We’re going to begin that process. Then, they’re going to watch the whole film with their coaches from A to Z. We’re going to clean up the Carolina (game). We’ll just touch touch briefly on Atlanta. We’ll have kind of a walkthrough, jog-through type practice, much like they would the day after a game. It’s a little different cause tomorrow obviously can’t be a Tuesday for the players when they’d be off, but then we’re going to kind of go through a typical game week for the most part. It’s not going to be totally, exactly the same, but it’s going to be relatively close.”

(On what three areas of the team concern him the most) – “Our slow start number one as a football team. That’s the number one concern to me. Our inability to get off the field on defense has been a concern to me and I would say our inconsistency on offense in terms of, I thought number one in our first game, in terms of just games, we moved the ball relatively well. We knew we had some red zone issues, etc., but I think we’ve been inconsistent there. Probably those would be the top three right now.”

(On his evaluation of the quarterbacks and if he’s close to naming a starter) – “The good news was…you know what’s amazing, we kind of do the, we really believe in the give-away take-away margin is probably the number one indicator and the number two indicator is explosive plays. We had five explosive plays the other night. They had 12. To think that we were even in the ball game, I don’t care who’s playing, first-string, second-string, third, I don’t care if it’s your fifth-string is playing, that we were even in the game, the only reason that we were is because we didn’t hand them the ball. Leading into our quarterback play, do we have to be better? Yes. Were there some accuracy issues? Sure. Was there a time or two our quarterbacks could have stepped up to avoid pressure? Absolutely. At the end of the day, they didn’t throw the ball to the opposition until the last play of the game and they did do some good things. I think we had almost five drops I think, which impacted our ability to move the football. I thought they, overall…the management of the game, we didn’t run a lot of bad plays. We didn’t run a lot of plays where we had no chance. We didn’t throw the ball in double coverage an awful lot. A couple times, we got lucky, but I thought the game management was pretty good. Obviously, we need to be more productive. There’s no question about it. But to think we were even in the game, at least offensive, the credit was we didn’t hand the ball to the opposition a whole lot. Point being, you can hang in some games if you don’t give the games away. I’m not standing up here telling you we played well because we didn’t, but you can compete and you can hang in there if you’re a sound team and you don’t turn the ball over.”

(On the positives he was able to take away from the game other than turnovers) – “It’s a positive and a negative. Again, I’m disappointed in the start of our football team. I think some of our younger guys are showing more energy and zip and enthusiasm on the field than the older guys are. That’s a concern. We’re going to address that. We’ve got to let them know that. They’re going to know that. We’ve got to get off to a better start. I said to the team after the game, ‘You can’t start games down 17-0.’ I’m not a huge stat guy, but I bet if you went back and investigated and looked all that stuff up, you’re not going to win a lot of games doing that – preseason, regular season, postseason. I don’t care when it is. We can’t come out the gate like that. We’ve got to play better early, no doubt it.”

(On if he will determine who will be the starting quarterback this week or next – “It could be. We’re in the process right now, we watched the game obviously, we discussed our personnel obviously and now we’re starting to formulate some thoughts on Atlanta. We’re certainly going to do more game planning this week than we have the first two. There’s no question about that. I was in a run game meeting earlier this morning and we’re going to start narrowing down our personnel. We may have a decision soon, but we may not until, we my play it out another week. That’s still up in the air. We certainly haven’t come to any decision on that.”

(On the play of offensive tackle Jonathan Martin) – “He did some good things. He had a bad penalty the one holding call on the run. It’s not a good looking play on film . One of the sacks that was attributed to him, we felt Ryan (Tannehill) could have stepped up. It’s a seven-step drop and there’s a guy open. The middle was very firm in the pocket if you watch it on tape. That being said, he still has to block it better, but it wasn’t like, I’ve seen young rookies offensive tackles get run over and get beat like that (snaps his fingers). I don’t think that was the case on that particular play. Where you clearly…the sack is his, but we also thought there were contributing factors to that. It’s a growing process. I don’t think anybody makes that kind of transition without a couple bumps in the road. The big thing will be to see how he plays this week. Can he learn from some of those mistakes? He clearly made a couple and we’ll see how he does, but I’m not disappointed in him at all.”

(On his concern over the lack of a big-time wide receiver on the roster) – “Again, part of your job as a coach…I think I’ve said before, part of the fun, part of the challenge is developing players. I’m not (going to label) this guy’s a three, a two, a one, a four, a five, a six. We have to find some guys, as I’ve said before. What are you looking for; we’re looking for guys that can separate versus man coverage, make plays on the ball down the field, catch the ball consistently. They come in all shapes and sizes. If you had asked me in March, boy I would have liked a bigger target down the middle of the field than Davone Bess, but you know what, the guy is a football player; he finds a way to get open. It doesn’t matter if it’s man or zone, he seems to have a knack. We’re looking for good football players. They come in all shapes and sizes. I’m not concerned about the lack of star power right now, but I will be concerned if we are not able to develop some of the players that we have on our roster. Then I will be concerned. But I have optimism that we will be able to do that, and I’m confident we can. That remains to be seen.”

(On how the players that filled in for injured starters on defense played on Friday) – “OV (Olivier Vernon) did a really nice job. The kid did a good job on special teams. I remember early in the game, I mean the kid was lathered up within the first five minutes. He covered kickoff, he was on the punt team, he was playing every snap on defense, and he was playing hard. He’s a football player. I think it was him on the opening kickoff if I’m not mistaken, who came down and made the tackle. I like the way he plays the game; I think he did a good job. (Jason) Trusnik and (Gary) Guyton stepped in and did some good things at linebacker. Overall, obviously the first play of the game, you can’t start a game like that (with) missed tackles. We had a couple of free hats, as we like to say. I’m not saying the play design for Carolina was very good; it’s a good football play, but if you watch the film there’s guys there to make the play and we didn’t. You know Richard Marshall didn’t make it, (Chris) Clemons didn’t make it. Trusnik really didn’t have a hat on him, but he got caught up in the trash a little bit. The game is still about tackling and pursuit and you have to get 11 guys around the ball. We have to do a better job of getting our color jerseys around the ball on defense, even on offense. We have to cover the ball better on offense, we have to cover the balls down the field better, and that’s something we’re going to emphasize here as we move forward.”

(On if he is worried about not being able to evaluate his starting defensive unit together before the start of the regular season due to injuries) – “I’m more concerned that we’re not playing fast. Again, we talked as a staff yesterday as we watched the film and we said ‘look, Kevin (Coyle) didn’t spend an awful lot of time trying to figure out Carolina’s formations and substitutions and who is in the game and who is out of the game.’ That being said, we don’t really know how much time Carolina spent on our guys either. So at the end of the day, it’s still, you make a call on defense and you have to have guys that execute the call. The thing that’s really disconcerting is we had too many mental errors, too many missed tackles, stuff that beats you in football. It doesn’t matter if you game plan for three days or you game plan for 30 minutes, you’ve got to tackle, you have to pursue, you have to have guys in the right gap and you have to have 11 guys on the same page. Some of those big plays; we didn’t have that, and it’s tough to overcome that.”

 (On if he has any more indication on which of the young receivers will play a prominent role this season) – “We’re still working through that Joe (Rose). Part of the reason that our run-pass ratio is a little out of whack is, if you look at the team and you look at the running back pool, we feel like we’ve got some guys that, a) we’ve got some established players who have had some success in this league, we also feel like we have some young players that have a chance to be very good there. Now we’re in a position at receiver where we don’t have as much information on those guys, we don’t have as much quarterback information, so we’re throwing the ball more than we anticipate throwing in a quote unquote “normal game”. With all that being said, yeah you’re right; things have changed. As I like to say sometimes the computer has changed a little bit week to week in terms of, this week (Rishard) Matthews played a bunch of special teams, week one didn’t get a ton of reps, but had some production that we liked the other night. (Roberto) Wallace had a lot of production the first week, not so much this week. (Julius) Pruitt didn’t really factor into the game plan. (BJ) Cunningham didn’t get a lot of opportunities, so we still have some work to do in that area. It’s not a finished product by any means.”

(On any added pressure to win games in the preseason for the sake of the fans) – “Sure, but the stage that we’re at, we can’t necessarily be focused on the outcome right now. We have to be focused on watching the film and seeing development. So that’s a concern; when you have more MA’s (missed assignments) in week two than in week one. I’m more concerned about that. I love our fans, and we need every single one of them, but the seat I’m in, I have to be more worried about that stuff than I do if our fans want this guy to play more or this guy to play less, or if they want us blitz more or blitz less. Hopefully as a coach you have to stay true to the film and what you see, and there are some things on the film that are concerning that we need to get straightened out quickly. They’re (players) going to hear about that in 15 minutes. We’re going to start that process. There’s no magic wand; just because I say it doesn’t mean (it’s going to happen). Let’s be honest, none of us are miracle workers. It’s going to take a lot of work, but that’s what we’re here for.”

(On his perception of the pass interference call on Sean Smith in Friday’s game) – “It looked like a good play, but again, that’s part of football. You’re not going to get every single call. It looked to me from where I was that he was in relatively good position, but the referee, the official saw something and threw the flag. There’s nothing to whine about because you’re not going to win that argument anyways. Hopefully you can keep them out of the end zone and hold them to a field goal. We had a real bad first drive, but we held them to a field goal. We had a chance to make that, but for whatever reason they called it a penalty, so the next thing you have to do is keep them out of the end zone.”

(On how much Marcus Thigpen helped himself with Friday’s performance) – “He played well. You know you feel him out there, he made an impact. We thought his special team returns were good; we liked what we saw there. He did some good things. Now let’s see if he has some consistency, and some improvement and development. That’s what we’re looking for this week.”

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(On what the team has accomplished since training camp started) –

We've done the best with what we have.

(On if the goal this week is to treat the week of preparation like a regular season game) –

We're only 2 weeks away to the regular season. What a stupid question. Next question?

(On what three areas of the team concern him the most)

You only see 3? That exactly why reporters arent hc's.

(On his evaluation of the quarterbacks and if he’s close to naming a starter) –

Im trying tso hard to hide the fact Ryan Tannehill will be my starter from you guys. I learned this from Tony Sparano. Tell you guys a whole lot and say nothing at all. Tony was very good at that.

(On the positives he was able to take away from the game other than turnovers) –

“It’s a positive and a negative. Didnt you guys watch the game. Next question please.

(On if he will determine who will be the starting quarterback this week or next –

Will you guys please stop riding my jock on this. Last I checked Dan Marino's no longer in this locker room.

(On the play of offensive tackle Jonathan Martin)

What you guys really want to hear me say is he's a bust already right?

horrible football team but ill give philbin plenty of time this year

(On his concern over the lack of a big-time wide receiver on the roster)

Well, if you cant baffle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh!t. Next question.

(On how the players that filled in for injured starters on defense played on Friday)

Well, considering most our starters would be 3rd string backups themselves, the fill in players did nicely.

On if he is worried about not being able to evaluate his starting defensive unit together before the start of the regular season due to injuries) –

Well, acyually I had these bums evaluated after going on nfl.com and seeing they finished 25th against the pass and 15th overall in 2011.

The slow starts concern me, as it's eerily like Sparano-ball. go 0-7 to start the season. Shouldn't happen with our schedule. But may.
Curiously I'm a LOT less worried about our lack of OFFENSIVE playmakers than I am about the lack of DEFENSIVE playmakers.
Wake needs a real stud on the other side. We knew that, and yet our FO did nothing to secure someone.
However, the Bills did. Can you imagine Mario on one side, Cam Wake on the other?

well, at least theres some cuase for concern over the state of this team at least...*lmao*


NEXT!!!!

(On if he has any more indication on which of the young receivers will play a prominent role this season)

I will once one of these bums proves he catch anything other than a cold.

(On any added pressure to win games in the preseason for the sake of the fans) –

Hel no, most fans are educated, they know who brought this trash in here, dont they Jeff?

again, i feel sorry for the QB's and coach philbin; they certainly dont have much to work with. the cupboards are bare and we do not have playmakers! ireland has done a dreadful job of recognizing/procuring talent and it will bite us.

i miss the days of surtain and madison locking it down with marion back there. jt and odel rushing passer. thomas plugging the middle. bowens and gardner shutting down the run

Posted by: bill connors | August 19, 2012 at 02:48 PM
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Let me translate.....INSTEAD of going 7-9...you miss going 9-7.....

See how much shorter that was.....

(On how much Marcus Thigpen helped himself with Friday’s performance)

Ok, I'll play like I know that guy's even on the roster. Wasnt he the backup qb here a few years back?

This offense is pathetic. No passing game and no running game.

Watch the Jets/Giants on NFL network and you'll feel a bit less depressed.
laugh out loud at the Jets announcers trying to put a positive spin on the horrendous play of their QB's, not to mention the O-Line.
Only one fleeting reference to Sparano.
OK, I know the above helps us not a whit.

I'm just fishing here, boys.

(On what three areas of the team concern him the most) – “Our slow start number one as a football team. That’s the number one concern to me. Our inability to get off the field on defense has been a concern to me and I would say our inconsistency on offense in terms of, I thought number one in our first game, in terms of just games, we moved the ball relatively well. We knew we had some red zone issues, etc., but I think we’ve been inconsistent there. Probably those would be the top three right now.”
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I love this NO-NONSENSE answer...and as a result....I love this staff.....no pulling any punches....and no excuses....

This staff will have a long way to go to shake of the sleepy camps that Sporano ran.....they even used the words :in good shape" when to describe the teams fitness level...definitely a by-product of a Sporano hang-over (no offense Vontae)......

These will get it together...they just need time...and "their guys"....

This could easily be the Dolphins worst team ever.

Phinmanski,

Youre only concerned about the offense? This entire team suffer a huge ebb in overall talent. Thats the problem!

Well, i would hope to god that they wouldnt come up with the fail foward speech in order to succeed...You'd have to be blind to the truth to not feel some concern the way they've performed on the field which is the only thing that counts...

Scotty, apparently you weren't aboard during the cam Cameron regime.

Imawriter,

Just like the Jets to try and make sure we dont beat them out for anything. This year thier making sure we dont beat them to the afc east cellar. Even beinf first in being last, just so they beat us oit, makes them happy.

he can sugar coat things for martin all he wants, but the fact is they feel pressured to play him because he was a second round pick. it was atrocious, and not just on the sacks and holding penalties. on one running, johnson ran across him as if he wasn't there for a stop in the backfield. now, i remember larry allen being thrown to the ground by reggie white with one hand, so there are growing pains. but with martin the other night the offense didn't even have a chance.

Wow, I missed a GREAT chance to play off Scotty's name, such as, 'you missed the horrible Enterprise that was the Cam Cameron regime."
Etc.

The D concerns me also. But the WR group is the worst I've ever seen.

superPHIN,

Do you mean the fast forward fail speech? LOL

YG, still laughing at "Posted by: Yesterday's Gone | August 19, 2012 at 03:49 PM"

Sadly that means they'll draft ahead, move up and get Barclay, trading Tebow in the process.
On the bright side, that blowhard Rex will be outta there.

yg,
Thats still the number 1 worst speech(but most entertaining) one we've ever had here in miami...

I want us to Fail...But Fail Forward...so while Your Failing, Your learning..But you got to learn FAST!!!


HUH????*LMAO*

@ least I could read this presser...


and not one number of reps made it into this presser......

what a breath of fresh air....

OMG, fail forward fast, the Ginn family. Ouch.
BAAAAAD memories, but at least Camarillo saved the day...sort of.

imawriter,

Jets are so stupid even if they win 2013 1st overall draft position they'll try and trade up. I say if that happens e make a phone call to them, fake like we pick ahead them, and make them think we're trading down with them to get thier 1st verall pick.

Sparano's there it might work!

Can't wait till game 4 when they start Devlin. Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants if......????
NAH, ain't gonna happen. Devlin could be the next coming of Marino/Elway (he's not0 but Ryan Tannehill will be the guy.
O thinks he's good and will eventually be better than the what's his name with the Bengals, Kolb, Flynn, etc. Tanny just needs lots more games under his belt. The other guys had 30+ games in college.

Camerons team may well have been better then this team.

SORRY SCOTTY...thats a big absolute negative, nothing could ever be that bad...dont get me wrong, we're not a good team by any strecth but that team was a whole new meaning for the word Epic Fail...

YG, love the draft scenario, but don't forgot the moron in the exec chair, Ireland.
Scotty, with all due respect, I believe we'll need to go 0-14 before I can agree with you.
I see 8-8 here, due to our schedule and my never failing homer-ism.

This could easily be the worst Dolphins team in their history. I would love to see that 1-15 team up against this one. I think Cleo Lemon would torch this secondary... Sad but true

0-14 with 2 games to go...

Cleo lemon*lmao*...you give that guy too much credit....who exactly would torch us, Ted Ginn and his family...you've been sqeezing too many lemons!!!

Scotty, not even close. This team is much better.

I hear a bunch of gloom and doom. The last time I checked it was preseason. I think 1/2 of you are Jets Trolls. I hope the Dolphins tear it up this season so you losers can suck on crow. I bet you will never admit that you were crybabies on this blog but we have it here in writing. Suck it fair weather crybabies.

I liked Philbins responses especially the 'slow start' comment. Now if he can just coach 'em up.

Well, 1966 definitely was a lot less talented than these guys, but once they got Bob Griese in 1967 and nobody else they were already a step ahead of this team. Then 1968 came with that wonderful draft and the dynasty was in place. Cam's team was bad. Beck was horrible; it was pretty disasterous. Cam's team probably gave 1966 a run for their money. Is this one of those years? I don't know. I really like Philbin, I think Tannehill has talent, and I know the defense has some players who once were very good, but these losses are really disturbing. Huge holes in the defense, and teamful of oopsie WR's.

Posted by: You guys sound like crying babies | August 19, 2012 at 04:24 PM

No we don't, you do!

Rob

Your memory is poor. Griese was not very good for some time. Cam's team suffered numerous injuries to key starters early on, and the team was still competitive in most games. Cam's team was better than Sparanos team.

Philbin ie eerily similiar to Cameron. I dont see any ptogress coming this season. Hate the thought of Tannehill in there without one decent WR.

Matt Barkley come on down.

Watch the Jets/Giants on NFL network and you'll feel a bit less depressed.
laugh out loud at the Jets announcers trying to put a positive spin on the horrendous play of their QB's, not to mention the O-Line.
Only one fleeting reference to Sparano.
OK, I know the above helps us not a whit.
I'm just fishing here, boys.
Posted by: IMAWriter | August 19, 2012 at 03:45 PM

Post of the day IMAWriter, I said it a couple weeks ago, What were the Jets thinking?
Sporono+Tebow+Sanchez= FG city baby, I hope they have a good kicker.LMAOROTF over the stupid YETS.

This could easily be the worst Dolphins team in their history. I would love to see that 1-15 team up against this one. I think Cleo Lemon would torch this secondary... Sad but true
Posted by: Ringling Brothers | August 19, 2012 at 04:04 PM

I love this! Rotflmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DFPFG's,

Seing the Jets/Giants game pissed me off even more. Those clowns are actually trying to steal 2013 1st overall pick from. LOL

This could easily be the Dolphins worst team ever.
Posted by: Scotty | August 19, 2012 at 03:46 PM

I'm sorry you're such a miserable person. You clearly think with your emotions and no rational.

People forget we were 1 bad play away (albeit: in 3 separate games) from going 10-6 and in a playoff hunt, and that was with Columbo and Carey manning the right side of our o-line. But you can all insist we're the second-coming of the 0-16 Lions.

I Missed the game, What was the score?, Did the jets score a TD or was the only scoring done by FGs?

Giants 26 Jets 3 The fistpumper was very proud!

LOL, Isnt that 3FGs and no TDs for the jets in there first 2 Pre-Season games??
I feel much better.

They must be proud.
LMAOROTF.

Good thing we got Garrard and Moore to develop Tanne.

You guys are seriously bored people if the whole Sparano fist pump thing still entertains you. Seriously bored.

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