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The differences between Chad Johnson and Brandon Marshall

Chad Johnson, who made a big deal about enjoying new freedom with the Dolphins after being muzzled in New England last season, today walked past the media and announced, "I don't do media anymore."

The change is obviously tied to Johnson's issue with coach Joe Philbin this camp in which the coach was displeased with Johnson's language and the way he represented the organization in his one press conference since joining the team.

The displeasure was on full display Tuesday night on Hard Knocks -- with a little career chat from Philbin as well as the advancing of the idea that Johnson will have to tow the line or be in danger of getting cut.

So there's that. Chad Johnson is being his usual enigmatic self and there is backwash from it. And that leads me to this: On more than one occasion since camp started I've had people suggest to me the Dolphins this offseason basically traded one problem child for another when they traded Brandon Marshall and signed Chad Johnson. That idea seems to have gained traction following Johnson's bizarre opening press conference and particularly following the airing of last night's Hard Knocks premier.

But let me share with you what I've been told by people with the team.

They don't see Johnson and Marshall as identical or even remotely similar.

The Dolphins believed, at the end, that Brandon Marshall was trouble to have on the team. They had grown weary of his ways. And the idea that he was a distraction was the least of the many, many concerns they had about Marshall.

Johnson?

He's something of a flake. A clown. A cut-up. He needs to clean up his language because, as coach Joe Philbin says, he's representing the team and this team wants to be represented in a certain fashion. But is Johnson dangerous? Is he going to get into violent disputes, either with people or family?

That's not been his history so far.

The truth about Marshall, whom I liked by the way, is that police were not just called to his house the one time his wife stabbed him. There was a long history of problems at the Marshall house. I'm told cops were called at least half-a-dozen times we didn't know about in addition to the stabbing incident that made headlines.

Marshall was also problematic among teammates. On more than a couple of occasions, I'm told Marshall totally lost it on the sideline and would yell at teammates or coaches or both. It got to the point, I'm told, nobody would go near Marshall. And this is in addition to the torment I'm told he heaped upon his quarterbacks, particularly Chad Henne.

Obviously, this is all second-hand and I'm certain Marshall would have a different version of these stories. So I give him that and so should you. But the things multiple people have told me about him paint a picture of a problem child that didn't seem headed in the right direction.

Combine this with good but not great results on the field -- remember he dropped a handful of TD passes last year -- and you can understand why Miami felt the need to trade Marshall.

Johnson?

If he's true to his history, he won't be getting arrested. Cops won't be showing up at his house responding to violent domestic disputes.

He may, however, wear on some teammates, as he did in Cincinnati. He may be something of a diva, as he was once he started producing. And he may not always be consistent in his performance, as evidence by his last year with the Bengals and last year in New England.

It should be said that Marshall today is probably a better player than Johnson. On the other hand, Johnson may be less of a problem child than Marshall, particularly when it comes to legal matters. The Dolphins will soon find out if Johnson, like Marshall, becomes a distraction or an embarrassment to the organization -- an issue for which Philbin may not have a lot of patience.

"There's a certain way, again, we want everybody to be themselves. I don't want everybody to be Joe Philbin," Philbin said today. "Everybody's different. We want to let guys be themselves. However, we think everybody has an obligation to get on board with the program. I told Mr. Ross we were going to have men that represented themselves in the right way on and off the field. And that's important to me. It's importnat to our staff. I believe it's important to our owner that we do things the right way.

"Again, I'm not going to sit here and say I've never cursed or used an inappropriate comment. I'm sure I have. There might have been some on the show because sometimes on the field I do ... It's important to all of us. I really believe that.

"We're not going to be a great football team if we've got 51 guys doing things a certain way and maybe two guys who are on their own program. It's too hard. It's too tough. We have to have guys that think the same way and whose brains think the same way about football. They can act different and dress differently. But they all kind of have to think the same. They have to buy in. If someone doesn't want to buy into the program, that's a problem." 

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I SEE THAT OSCAR IS HERE.
OSCAR TELL US ABOUT THE TIME YOU INVENTED FIRE.


(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

Yeah, I remember what Sam Madison said if they ever were in a barroom fight and bringing Tim Bowens along,"We don't want to kill anybody".

What do you mean I invented fire? It just came along.

Biggest difference between Ochocinco and Da Beast? NO ONE DOUBLE TEAMS OCHOCINCO!

Tim Bowens only had 3 toes on his left foot, Lost the other two due to a lawn mower accident when he was a kid.
Guy was a Manamal.

- Naaaaahh. - Man, I tell you, man, guy is some kind of fuc-ing Yeti, man.

Oscar that was a classic line but I believe JT said it.

Bowens never stuffed a stat line but he sure did get a lot of gold watches from Zach Thomas over the years.

Its funny to see the same people that wanted B.Marshall traded last season when he dropped all his passes, are the same people now crying because he was traded him.

Agree Dan, I think he dropped 5 For sure TDs in the first 6 games.

NoNo, Mark, that was Sam Madison explaining how he could get anybody out of a barroom fight with his Lip. And broder, did he have a Big Lip!

Chad had a bad year last year because Brady never looked his way...never earned Tom's trust.

...new year, new team, new QB, new coach, new offensive scheme.

...Chad should thrive in this environment because he's loose and more importantly, he is playing for his legacy.

IMO- Chad is our #1 receiver this year with 90+ catches and 1,300+ yards.

Or was it JT talking about Sam Madison? You got me curious now. Anyways.....

OSCAR, TEL US ABOUT THE FIRST TIME THEY FORGED IRON.

(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

Aloco's funniest posts are from the people PRETENDING to be him.

On his own, he's only marginally funny (at best).

In a Blog, you are always going to find People that know more than you, same as in Actual Space, only, many times, you don't know they are there.

oscar, at least Madison backed it up on the field, was it 01 he had 7 picks and Surtain had like 6 that year?? Now they were the best CB tandem for a couple of years. Unlike Dumb and Dumber

BTW Vontae = Dumber

That was a very laborious process and....I don't want to talk about it.

Oscar, my pet unicorn knows more than you.

Yeah, I saw some Unicorns but really, they were fakes.

OSCAR, TELL US YOUR FEALINGS WHEN THE FIRST CREATURE CRAWLED OUT OF THE OCEAN.
WHAT WAS IT LIKE?

(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

Chad Johnson, who made a big deal about enjoying new freedom with the Dolphins after being muzzled in New England last season, today walked past the media and announced, "I don't do media anymore."

I hate to say it, but that's "It" in a nut-shell.

Johnson's "About Face" can't be a good sign.

I hope he was being truthful with Coach Philbin about this being his life. Then this shouldn't affect his performance at all.

He can "Pout & Play".

Brandon Marshall is a mug shot waiting to happen. He will eventually end up like Chris Henry from the Bengals. I never thought that we should of acquired him becasue of his problems and was happy to see him go. Now he is Chicago's problem.

Chad is just a guy that is a little different but he works hard and will never be in jail and embarass the Dolphins. If he has nothing left then so be it, nothing invested so nothing lost.

In two years getting two #3's for Marshall will look like a steal.

It sounds like we have become a goody two shoes team. Brandon Marshall will go to the pro bowl this year like always. Absurd trading him.

Cut Ochostinko and chalk it up to a mistake.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

yeah. he's as funny as that fat stupid smelly shaq.

Mike, agreed. In a million years Irescum couldnt replace a Brandon Marshall. Never gave him a decent QB either.

all of the media retards laugh at all of his stupid moronic quips.

shaq. u ain't amusing so stfu.!

ODIN, PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THE UPCOMING SEASON,
WHAT SAY YOU, 3 AND 13 OR 7 AND 9?

(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

Chad BOZO Cinco is his own Biggest Fan ...

I see VIO (Village Idiot Odin ) Has arrived,Odin, You must be pleased with your Idiot posts last night(No surprise there)Going on like a Buffoon after 1 am must be your "Forte"
BTW, Did you wake up in your usual urine soaked shorts?

Who's gonna pay $ to watch this garbage team?

I see VIO (Village Idiot Odin ) Has arrived,Odin, You must be pleased with your Idiot posts last night(No surprise there)Going on like a Buffoon after 1 am must be your "Forte"
BTW, Did you wake up in your usual urine soaked shorts?
Posted by: Coalition to ban Ireland.And Odin. | August 08, 2012 at 04:32 PM


Sticks and Stones may break my Bones...........

But U is Soooooooooooooooo GAYTARDED ;)

One of my favorite parts form last nights show was Long and Cog's doubling up on Starks.

Cogs got up an accused Starks of hearing the snap count, which he denied.

Then Cog's calls him a Fvcking Cheater!

This O-Line is shaping up into one nasty group of individuals. Long's the Big Tough Guy "Team Leader". Cog's is mandated by the NFL(and probably some local jurisdictions)to attend Anger Management classes. Last night we got a peek at just how gritty-wicked Pouncey can get.

I don't know much about Hicks and/or Steinbach, but I hope their BOTH certified Psychopaths!

Ohhhh There he goes, Odin, How drunk are you today?
Let me guess it's 5:03, 5 Bucks say you'd hit a .028 on a breathalzer.
Odin, What say you?

Did Gramps awaken from his booze soaked cot in the trailer park?

Time to blow up the inflatable 'hottie' and bore everyone with more fabricated tales of a life never lived.

ODIN, PLEASE TELL US ABOUT THE UPCOMING SEASON,
WHAT SAY YOU, 3 AND 13 OR 7 AND 9?
(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

Posted by: ALoco | August 08, 2012 at 04:23 PM

Dear Mr. ALoco,

YOU GO FURST. YOU GIVE IS YOUR PERDIKSHUN FOUR THEE UPCUMIN SEASUN.

THEN I WELL GEEVE YOU MIND!

-Odin- ;)

LOL At Zorro, The poor old coot still thinks it's only one person hating on him but the reality is everone hates his antics.

WHAT FANCY LUXURY ITEMS THEY SHOWED ON THE HARD KNOCK SHOW LAST NIGHT LIKE CARS AND JEWLRY? ALSO THE CLOTHS THEY HAVE ARE VERY NICE AND VERY EXPANSIVE.

After they lose the opener the chant will be BARF FOR BARKLEY!

Ohhhh There he goes, Odin, How drunk are you today?
Let me guess it's 5:03, 5 Bucks say you'd hit a .028 on a breathalzer.
Odin, What say you?

Posted by: Coalition to ban Ireland.And Odin. | August 08, 2012 at 05:05 PM
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-I beg your pardon, there I Go?
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I see VIO (Village Idiot Odin ) Has arrived,Odin, You must be pleased with your Idiot posts last night(No surprise there)Going on like a Buffoon after 1 am must be your "Forte"
BTW, Did you wake up in your usual urine soaked shorts?

Posted by: Coalition to ban Ireland.And Odin. | August 08, 2012 at 04:32 PM
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What the heck........why let a little reality mess with your Troll-Dom!

By the way............How many prospects do you think Dawn Aponte evaluated today?

Rumor has it she's going to be the next Charlie Casserly ;)

5 and 11.

(BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE)

He's got a couple of fans, but the rest seem more than sick of his stale act. The guy is in total denial about just how little respect he actually has here, but he's so brain-addled and lost in delusional fantasies that I doubt it ever registers.

Let me guess---he'll resport to his usual, dreary homoerotic-obsessed rants as the predictable lame retort. Doesn;t take a Freud to figure out what THAT's all about!

I THNK WEE SHULD ALLE RITE LYKE ALOCO!!! THET WEY WEI KAN ALLE SOUNDE AS SMURT AS HEEM!!!!

Odin.
Well played my friend.

I am a Miami Dolphins fan in Pennsylvania.

Mark....


Your bias against Marshall has without a doubt shaded your view of his overall performance in a negative way.....

Go to NFL.com....and look at the STATS....you will see quite clearly that Marshall's #s look a lot closer to Moss's...then they do to Owens...in other words....he is OUT PERFORMING Owens at this stage in their YOUNG careers....and Marshall is JUST getting warmed up....as he heads into his 7th season....and he has done this WITHOUT a HEALTHY Daunte Culpper in his prime.....or Future MVP Tom Brady.....Marshall has NEVER caught a touch pass from JOE MONTANA (HOF)...or Steve Young (HOF).....however....he managed to stay at a HOF level with one of the worst starting QBs in NFL history throwing ball @ his feet....or 2 yards beghind him...all while beating double teams....on NON-PLAYOFF caliber teams....IMO....so much more impressive @ this stage of his career....

but don't worry...we can revisit this in January when he is in the 2nd rd of the playoffs...

LOL At Zorro, The poor old coot still thinks it's only one person hating on him but the reality is everone hates his antics.

Posted by: Coalition to ban Ireland.And Odin. | August 08, 2012 at 05:11 PM

Talking reality..........NOBODY cares.......because you are a L - o - s - e - r.

LOL!!!!

(I like typing with dots and dashes.... ;)

Kris, the bears ain't doin shite.

And i only grew to hate brandon more as a Dolphin. What does that tell you?? he was the biggest letdown that I can remember ever putting on that jersey. he was a me first player, drew idiotic penalties and had horrendous drops but yet was the first to point the finger at other players.

he can go fukk himself. he's a piece of shite.

Odinstank, Should I post your idiot posts stating your waiting for one of you "HOTTIES" while you continue to post for 7 hours?
I mean there's months worth.

Did Gramps awaken from his booze soaked cot in the trailer park?
Time to blow up the inflatable 'hottie' and bore everyone with more fabricated tales of a life never lived.
Posted by: Zorro | August 08, 2012 at 05:06 PM
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Coalition aka Monkey BOY,

We all know it's **NOT** just one **PERSON**. We **KNOW** this isn't **REALLY** you talking to yourself.

I mean just because you were talking inflatable dolls for 8 straight hours(for the last 8 months), that wouldn't tip anyone off(Wink, wink).

You didn't just BUST YOURSELF - Yet AGAIN! You're WAY to smart for that(Wink, wink)...........

-Odin- ;)

Mark....

I was dissapointed as well....I thought that Marshall would get us to the next level....but he coudn't...but then again...neither could Ricky Williams....or Marino for that matter....

We needed the other 52 guys on that roster playing as HARD as he played every Sunday.....and COMPETENT COACHES pwoudn't have hurt....

Marshall not only played for one of the worst starting QBs in NFL history (arguably)...he also served under one of the MOST INEPT coaching staffs EVER....

EVER, Mark.....EVER...and you can't argue that....

1 reciever sets....

pass only on 3rd down....

DBs claim they knew the plays.....

Sporano played HOT POTATOE with ALL the assistant coaches.....

Are you really blaming Marshall....

Cowboy CASTOFFS....crappy o-line...crappy O-line HC....

specialty my _ _ _

The guy is in total denial about just how little respect he actually has here............

Posted by: Zorro | August 08, 2012 at 05:16 PM

WHAT? I don't have your respect here? Oh Poo, my Life is OVER!

Respect? On an ANONYMOUS Sports Blog?

ROTFLMAO - What a D-u-f-u-s ;)

You know what Monkey Bu-oy? In all SERIOUSNESS too, I really mean this-lol. I come on here and make you look SO stoopid every day. But honestly, you REALLY deserve all the Credit ;)

Respect on an ANONYMOUS Sports Blog? Bhwaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Sporano was a idiot.

Odin.
Well played my friend.

Posted by: Coalition to ban Ireland.And Odin. | August 08, 2012 at 05:18 PM

Why Thank You my Good Man!

(You ever see that "Shift Change" scene from the Foghorn Leghorn cartoon.......lol?)

Yes..LOL, AROTF.

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