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It's clear Tannehill should be the starter

Dolphins coach Joe Philbin has been deliberate and coy about his quarterback decision this preseason. He doesn't give a lot of clues. And he has taken a systematic approach to getting the right player on the field with the first-team offense.

This week appears to be no different. Philbin wanted to name a starter for Friday's Atlanta game this week and that's very important because that player is probably going to be the starting QB in the regular-season opener against Houston.

But Philbin has tapped the brakes on the idea of making a final decision.

"We may have a decision soon, but we may not until, we may play it out another week," Philbin said. "That’s still up in the air. We certainly haven’t come to any decision on that."

Well, my question would be why not?

It is clear as day to anyone with eyes that Ryan Tannehill has so far gotten the better of Matt Moore in the quarterback competition.

Tannehill has looked better than Moore when you compare their starting assignments this preseason. Tannehill also looked better than Moore when each played with the backups this preseason.

The statistics show more definitively what we've seen on the field:

Tannehill is 25 of 44 (56.8 percent completion) for 267 yards with 1 TD and 0 INT. He has an 82.3 quarterback rating.

Moore is 12 of 27 (44.4 percent completion) for 136 yards with 0 TD and 1 INT. He has a 44.7 quarterback rating.

The competition has been closer in practice, but Tannehill has generally been as good if not better than Moore in that venue.

Beyond that, Moore has not led a TD drive yet this preseason. Tannehill has.

So what decision is there to make?

Ryan Tannehill should start against Atlanta Friday night. And he has done more to win the regular-season starting job than Moore.

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How can u start the kid when he's shown nothing except the deer in headlights look? Moore is a top 12 QB. Tannehill isnt.

"It is clear as day to anyone with eyes that Ryan Tannehill has so far gotten the better of Matt Moore in the quarterback competition.

"

Isn't it obvious? One has played many years in the league, the other hasn't even played a full preseason game yet.

Stop trying to stir the pot for your own good

Moore=6 wins(8 max)

Tanny=4 wins(6 max)


I guess when your mediocre for as long as we are..change doesnt come easy for some fans...if we're gonna suck, lets go with the guy that wont be here next year!!!*lmao*

I think we should move Ryan Tannehill to WR and still give him reps at QB. Then we could keep the other QB's. He could help us this year at WR while getting better at QB. We could throw some trick plays to the WR. Wild Cat with a twist!

Not sure oscar. I'm going to wait a bit. But 2-0 so far betting against the Dolphins. And I have under 7 BIG.

That makes some sense, superPHIN.

Tanny playing a little WR makes a lot of sense.

Tannehill is nothing, the Team is everything.

under 7 1/2 I think

If they start him, I hope he plays well. Right now there exist a rift between the Dolphins talentless team, fo, and the ownership with Miami area fans. Only a well performing Tannehill can begin to heal those wounds.

If not, the current rift of unhappiness, will naturally grow wider.

YG,

I think that rift is going to grow wider no matter what happens with the QB position b/c this team is not going to be very good. I just don't see Ireland (aka Harry Houdini) surviving this. With more & more draft picks flaming out like Vontae, Jerry, & Misi this guy couldn't shoot fish in a barrel.

Sure, start the kid on a team with a leaky oline, no WR's, below average run game & a terrible defense.

Nothing like destroying a kids confidence, potentially getting him hurt & have him running for his life as his first introduction to the NFL.

GREAT PLAN!

Scotty On crack....

What games are you watching??

Moore hasnt done sh$t with this offense in two games and as bad as tanny has looked, he's lead this team to more scoring drives than matt Fumblin moore. Top 12 QB, in what league?? the over the hill journeyman competition, I cant believe you actually believe that:(

Be careful, V Mike, you won last time but just barely.

Could Philbin be waiting to see when Garrard can get back on the field?, I think he likes him better then Moore. If he can get on the field then Moore is gone and Garrard may start Week 1. If he can't then he is cut and RT starts with Moore as backup.

At some point RT will start, and I for one can't wait for that day to come...

tannehill should start. If the o-line can't hold and he's getting knocked around then start moore and keep tanehill out until the o-line is fixed. Ireland has had 5 years to fix this o-line and its still terrible

Moore > Tannehill

But truly, as things stand now, Philbin would have a revolution in his hands if he declares M. Moore as his starting QB for the Season.

Mcnair sat for years. Akili Smith didn't. Manning started right away, so did Ryan Leaf.

There is not 1 example you can point to as a reason to say yes or no to starting him right away.

I've seen alot of people talk about Manning starting immediately. Well, Manning is a once in a lifetime prospect. Let's not forget he also had a decent oline, a guy named Marvin Harrison & Marshall Faulk when he got here.

Miami has NOTHING like that except for a decent Left side to the oline. Start Tanny & you risk hurting him mentally & physically long term.

Moore should get the nod simply to protect Tanny. You don't want guys getting beat up & hurt but, better it be Moore than Tannehill.

Sure, start the kid on a team with a leaky oline, no WR's, below average run game & a terrible defense.

Nothing like destroying a kids confidence, potentially getting him hurt & have him running for his life as his first introduction to the NFL.

GREAT PLAN!

Reality Check,

The plan was to start Garrard. Now what? With a rookie RT & a lack of talent at WR I'd start Moore. There's NO WAY Tannehill is going to be ready for real game speed. If I'm Philbin I'd lean on the running game & involve the RB's in the short passing game.


Sure, start the kid on a team with a leaky oline, no WR's, below average run game & a terrible defense.

Nothing like destroying a kids confidence, potentially getting him hurt & have him running for his life as his first introduction to the NFL.

GREAT PLAN!

Posted by: Reality Check | August 20, 2012 at 01:31 PM

Oh that makes sense now, lets let matt fumblin moore and david retread garrard get killed first that way when tanny has hardly any experience at all go in and get killed anyway??
Part of being a rookie is being able to absorb punishment, not observe it from the sidelines, if they only get rookies to play when everythings perfect, why even play the likes of luck, weeden, or RG3 for that matter when their O-lines are just as suspect

Mcnair sat for years. Akili Smith didn't. Manning started right away, so did Ryan Leaf.

There is not 1 example you can point to as a reason to say yes or no to starting him right away.

I've seen alot of people talk about Manning starting immediately. Well, Manning is a once in a lifetime prospect. Let's not forget he also had a decent oline, a guy named Marvin Harrison & Marshall Faulk when he got here.

Miami has NOTHING like that except for a decent Left side to the oline. Start Tanny & you risk hurting him mentally & physically long term.

Moore should get the nod simply to protect Tanny. You don't want guys getting beat up & hurt but, better it be Moore than Tannehill.

Posted by: Perspective Folks...PLEASE | August 20, 2012 at 01:37 PM

I agree 10000%

oscar, If tannehil's going to play the 1st half, I'll continue to bet bet against the Dolphins....until i lose.

some of ya'll have been stuck on sux 4 so long u ain't thinkin' between da ears.
lol

REALITY CHECK...................

LET'S START GERRAD,KEEP MOORE HEALTHY AND TANNEHILL SAVE UNTIL WE END THE SEASON W/2-14 .....

WHILE WE R AT IT...LET'S REST BUSH AND PLAY D.THOMAS ....


At some point RT will start, and I for one can't wait for that day to come...

Craig,

Of course that day will come BUT I don't believe he's ready especially w/o competent WR's.

BTW--Is Hartline even going to suit up this season???

Scotty, Moore a top 12 qb?

hmmm,

which one of these guys is he better than?

Aaron rodgers
Drew Brees
Tom brady
Matthew Stafford
Matt Schaub
Eli Manning
Peyton Manning
Matt Ryan
ben Rothliesberger
Tony Romo
Phillip Rivers
Michael Vick
Cam Newton

????

Answer = Scotty's on Crack

You're right, SayWhat!!!

I dont think Philbin is stupid enough to start Tannehill.

top 10 pix don't sit...

So becuase of tannys safety, we should not play him his first year..oh boo f$cking hoo,

these guys train and condition themselves everyday in situations where they expect to take a pounding and now we should not start him becuase he's not tough enough to handle it.

What happens in year 2 when this team only takes a minor step forward in adding talent and yet we still look like sh$t on the field, or year 3 when its still not good enough, and yet luck and others have a year to 2 years experience in the nfl while tanny just sits and learns from has been QBS, you guys live by excuses too much, its no wonder this team has sucked for so long.

Tannehill = RoboHenne

@ 12:41, Wasn't ME. I like T-$izzle but I'm not ready to Anoint him the 2nd Coming. Also, Clown I said Last Post Dan Marino is The "Standard" All Qb's are Measured off of in my book. All those Qb's u mentioned couldn't hold marino's jock. Maybe Peyton, but Peyton doesn't have Marino's Arm.

Dashi does know All Though. And Clown U can Check I've been beating the Devlin is the 2nd best Qb drum since the Ota's.

Never been a Fan of Moore and Always thought Garrard was signed to be more of a Mentor type. He fits what T-hill does better than Moore. Moore is the Only Qb on the Team that plays with a different style.

if you've been watching the miami QB battle(tannehill vs. moore) it is clear that tannehill is slightly the better of the two. and when you compare tannehill to andrew luck the entire picture of miami's future QB comes sharply into focus. the difference between luck and tannehill is so drastic that anyone comparing the two while keeping in mind that ross wants a stud QB must realize that tannehill is just another stepping stone. he will be better then the entire cast of QB's miami has fielded in the post marino era, he will be more consistant, more accurate, better stats and show more confidence, he will have better command and look good to miami fans as we unkowingly are comparing him to the QB's we have rooted for in the post marino era. this will all change the second we play a tean like the colts with andrew luck behind center. i must admit, that while everyone was chanting "suck for luck" i didn't see what the big deal was, but after seeing him play the other night against pittsburgh, with a team that has turned over half of their starting roster, after seeing the confidence, control, presence... i mean, they look like a bonified playoff team... and all because of ONE player. it became painfully obvious that tannehill might stick around for a few years, he might even do pretty well, but a stud? a dominating QB? if you are a fan of tannehill, if you think that miami will dominate anytime soon, all you need to do is watch andrew luck run his starless offense, and reality will set in. he shows the presence that philbin is looking for in tannehill to annoint him the starter, and tannehill simply doesn't have it. hopefully he will some day.

And dont forget in this (QB friendly league), you cant fart within two steps of a QB without having an unneccessary roughness penalty thrown out on defense.

Mark, don't even argue with these guys on the QB position. 16, 17, 18 QBs (and counting) since Marino, they don't have a CLUE about that position anymore.

Some yahoo said Moore's a top 12 QB (because he read it on espn.com and takes it as biblical Truth). Another johnson keeps asking for Pat Devlin to be in the mix. Because practice squad QBs grow up to be elite, SB winning QBs ALL THE TIME. My favorite is don't start the QB because the oline is porous. LOL! These are the people who put that ugly plastic over their couches so that they last longer. Of course, they look ugly as sh*t and are uncomfortable, stick to your skin, so that you NEVER end up sitting on them. Doesn't make sense.

Rookies are MORE durable than vets (in theory, having taken less punishment to date).

QBs in this day start from day 1 more frequently due to a myriad of reasons.

The ONLY way for a rookie QB to gain experience is to PLAY.

Waiting on the line to be perfect would put RT starting in 2040 (at the rate the Dolphins have improved the oline last decade).

You start the kid because THAT in and of itself gives Ireland AND Philbin some breathing room. No one expects a rookie to go to the SB, and not to make mistakes, so he'll most likely save both jobs if the Dolphins tank.

Pat Devlin looks great...AGAINST FUTURE PLUMBERS!!! Ireland has trouble finding legit stars in the FIRST round, what makes people think he'll find an elite QB who was undrafted?
QB

The Colts have better Wr's and Te's than the Dolphins.

Luck is the Truth, No doubt about that.

But Look at RG3? People in Washington are already questioning if Cousins is a better Qb?

Can U guys point out one thing the "Gamer" Does well at? At a Good to High Level? Anything?

Devlin does moore. Whats Matt Completion Pct%?

And Don't tell me they drop his passes. Cause the Wr's Drop T-hill's and Devlins Passes.

Plus, Moore has been here 2 years already and he doesn't realize his best Wr on 3rd Down is Bess. Even, T-Hill figured that out after 1 PreSeason Game.

Even RoboQb knew who had the best pair of hands on the Team.

Ask Philbin who his best Wr is? I'll give u a hint it's not the Secret Weapon(FlatLine). He said on the last post Mando had on him.

David Garrad is the starter and Moore is his backup.

David Garrad is the starter and Moore is his backup

David Garrad is the starter and Moore is his backup

DC, I have a better Idea,

Lets just sit every potential future star on this team for this year in hopes of avoiding injury becuase of the flaws this team has that way when everythings perfect and right, oh say, by ten years, tanny and others will truly be ready to thrive.

I wonder if guys like manning, brady, and brees wouldve been cool with that type of strategy when they were rookies?

Dashi,

Many here remember my offseason rant to draft Curt Cousins. He didnt play with the best of teams at Mich ST, so he nearly single handidly won most of the games he did. His college numbers nearly mirrored Joe Montana's. That's what drew me to the kid.

3tds passing his last preseason game isnt too shabby neither. I dont care what level of defenders he played against in that game.

play thill, we will go 3-13 either way. should get first pick and deal it for a ransom

Does anyone REALLY think (now with some pre-season reference) that Moore or Garrard would actually mean we win a lot of games this season?

Sit Tannehill because we want to win. Umm, ok, but what if we DON'T win with either of those guys? I haven't seen anything that would suggest we're a QB away from the playoffs.

Even if you're right and Moore or Garrard means a few extra wins, versus Tannehill, what are we debating? 6-10 versus 4-12?

Matter that much?
If we're worried that Tannehill isn't ready because he's not good enough to play.. then we'd have to sit most of our team for the same reasons. I haven't seen very many Dolphins players yet who are good enough.

Some delusions are going to die hard, I see.

Guys,

Its only natural they couldnt start Henne during hi9s rookie season. A. Henne wasnt close to ready B. Henne was only a 2nd rd pick.

Thats not to mention Henne never could seem to break his inconsistency streak well into his starting tenure this year. He's also looked horrible for the Jags thus far in this preseason.

Let Tannehill start, if he falls on his face, maybe the sooner we get Ireland out of here too. LOL

He has limited college experience so, why force feed him the pro game?

This team is gonna suck no matter who starts. That being said, I'd rather sit Tanny until the playoffs are out of reach.

Yea, he needs experience but not the kind he is line to get if he starts for this team right now.

As much as you all would like to preach to others about how a rookie should be ready to deal with adversity doesn't mean they are ready. Many of them aren't. Is Tanny one? Who knows? But, many of you are willing to bet he can handle it.

What if he handles it poorly & his career is negatively affected by it? What if it could have been averted by giving him half a season or a full season to get acclimated to the pro game?

You don't know how a player will handle it until he's in it. What sense does it make to rush him into it if his presence does not help the overall success of the team?

It doesn't. Unless it's to appease the whiny win starved fan base for any glimmer of hope. Even if it jeopardizes the franchise in future years.

I wanna see him play too but, not at the expense of his potential development.

DC, sometimes you just have to shake your head.

I never understood this love affair with matt moore. Bottom line is he is lucky to have a job in the NFL.

Tannehill has trumped the guy with the same cast of characters Moore had. And I never realized this before hard Knocks but Matt doesn't come across as the sharpest of guys. I don't trust him at all as a starter.

Now Garrard should be the starter for this team right now so the only way Moore should eb named the starter now is if the coaching staff plan to got to Garrard as soon as he is healthy. Like a lot of people say, it just looks cleaner to demote Moore than Tannehill. We will still see Tannehill finish the year as the starter. It's all up to the two vets to determine how soon that day comes because he looks at least like the second best qb on this team right now.

BTW I told you in March that we should have gone after Randy Moss, who will have a great year for a winning organization.

To be realistic, The Dolphins should clone 2 Jake longs to play RG, and RT.

FA-RT don't work.

The Dolphins aren't contending for a Super Bowl any time soon, so why not let Tannehill earn his stripes this season? It's a small sample size, but from what I've seen so far, this kid could be the answer long-term for the Dolphins. I don't know what it is, but I have A LOT more faith in Tannehill than I ever did in Chad Henne. Let him take his licks this season, he'll be better for it in the long run. Hopefully by then, the Dolphins will have surrounded him with some playmakers.

Brady didn't start as a rookie, Brees & Manning struggled thier first 2 years in league.
Peyton threw 75 ints his first 2 seasons.

if martin is a bust,ross better get down to camp davie and kick irelands fat axx all the way thru the front gate.
lol

I guess I haven't seen the same games as the rest on this blog.

Against the Panthers Tannehill ran the offense with the slowest pace of play - then Matt and Devlin was the only one approaching hurry up or fast tempo speed. Even Sherman said they did not play with the tempo he wants in a real game.

Tanny gets way too many passes batted down - he telegraphs his throws especially on the short drops. Tanny also gets a lot of dropped balls - there has to be a reason for that - happened in college too.

If Chad "dumbass" Johnson had caught that 3 rd and 3 pass Matt may have had an opening drive score. Moore has looked confident and collected in both games. Tanny looked great in the Tampa game but flustered in the Carolina game.

Pat Devlin looked better than any of them in the second qtr.

If this defense doesn't start showing up it won't matter who starts at QB.

What about if Moore starts, V Mike, would you bet against Miami? Less? More? hehehe

so what side u on cashmoney

Again, I've said it all along.

The Dolphins Depth Chart should look like

1. T-Hill

2. Garrard(He was #1 Pre-Injury)/ Always said start him til week 6. If we are under .500 then start T-Sizzle week 8. We have a Bye-week, week 7. It Gives the rookie 2 weeks to get prepared for his 1st game. Makes Sense

3. Devlin

I have never stated Devlin will be A Star. He should be T-hill's future Backup. Starting, Next Season. He was A WCO Qb in College, Will Come Cheap, and can only get better.

I've always said get rid of Moore because we won't be able to keep Devlin on the Practice Squad. Plain and Simple.

Also, U can look at the Scouts Record. Romo and Moore are both UDFA. He found Moore in Dallas, long long time ago. And do u Honestly think J.Jones or Parcells are Responsible for Finding an Acorn like Romo?

Yeah, Parcells and Jones know where Eastern Illinois University is at?

Why do u think J.Jones isn't so fond of Romo? It's not just the Playoff Meltdown. He's not fully Responsible for him.

It's what I said from one of my last post yesterday. Owners want Credit for finding the Qb. Or at least look like it was their decision that made it happen.

Any Team? Name 1 team where the owner doesn't want credit for the Qb.

I think you People are making too much out of individual Players. I believe this Coaching staff is light years better than Sparano's and on par with the good ones in the League. That only, can guarantee 2-3 victories in the Season. But it remains to be proven.

ross said henne the next marino...lmao ! ! !

Then they should NEVER have drafted him in the first round if thats the case. If they truly beleive this guy has the tools, HE NEEDS TO BE ON THE FIELD LEARNING HOW TO PLAY THIS GAME Regardless of the talent here.

If he was bieng outplayed by moore, then I would agree he needs to sit for ayear but he's not, and we dont actually know how far the gap was between garrard and tannehill was as far as the competition goes.

Look at weeden, Clevelands O-line is terrible and they dont have exactly a full roster of talent either, and oh yes, he is taking quite a pounding in his first two games and yet cleveland has already decided this guy is worth starting now. I definately think tannehill is just as good as weeden if not better and is worth just as much of a chance to start as him and they ALSO have low to no expectations as a team this year.

oscar, 3-13?. then the phins will be fighting with the jets for the 1st over next season.
lol

bill,
If Tanne and Brady traded places NE would still be a playoff team and Mia would still be one of the worst teams in the league.
I've been saying this ever since Parcells/Ireland/Soprano showed up.

Furthermore...,
Just because this team is losing money does not mean Ross is losing money.
Ross gets the depreciation and the revenue sharing. He also gets a tax write-off for his real estate business.

rooney

We were 6-10 last year, 2watt. Now LV has us 8-8 for this year. Right on line with my thinking. I don't predict Games, I predict People.

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