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Defense didn't exactly plug the leaks

HOUSTON -- One of the more intriguing things coming out of Sunday's 30-10 loss to Houston was that the home team really didn't play that well and still won by 20 points. Obviously the Dolphins turnovers had a huge part in that, but can you imagine if Houston had been firing on all the proverbial cylinders under its proverbial hood?

As I mentioned in my column in Monday's newspaper, some of the defensive players after the game were talking as if the unit had played fairly well. And yes, there were instances, particularly early on, when the defense was up to the challenge of stopping Houston.

But what I heard suggested good work throughout.

“It’s the same old same old for me. We got a lot of tough guys, a lot of guys that can make plays all over the field," Cameron Wake said of the unit. "We know what we can do day in, and day out. We go at it in practice. I’ve seen what these guys can do. You just gotta go out there and execute and do our best to get the ball."

Wake and his teammates had their chances to be heroes when they were put in crisis situations after four consecutive Miami series ended in turnovers before halftime.

"That’s football," Wake said. "That’s the way the cards are dealt and you’ve gotta play your hand. As a defense, we’ve gotta go out there, regardless of where the ball is. They throw the ball in, and it’s on the one that’s an opportunity for us to keep them out, that’s an opportunity for us to get a turnover, an opportunity for us to do a lot of different things. That’s the mindset you’ve gotta have. You can’t go out there, ‘Oh man, they’re on the one yard line, what are we gonna do?’ We’re gonna stop them. That’s the way we go into each game."

Um, except that didn't happen. The offense gave the ball up four times on turnovers and four times the Texans offense converted points against Miami's D. Three of those times the Texans got the ball at their 46, Miami's 27, and Miami's 31 ... and converted touchdowns each time.

So what's this about 'we're gonna stop them?"

Yes, the Miami offense put the defense in a terrible hole. But the defense didn't exactly dig itself out. Those are simply the facts.

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Well, I disagree actually. The defense did a stout job... Our offense, for a crazy few minutes just turned the ball over.. Again and again... Not after long drives either, it was immediate!

If you give Foster, Schaub, Johnson etc good field position (no time to sit and rest for the defense remember) then they will score, whoever the defense is!! I swear sometimes you watch a different game mate.

30-10? Defense did not play well.

Offense sucked.

Prepared? I think not.

Great players? Wrong team.

Sparano's offence scored 48 points? Irelands offense? 10. Marshall scored a td and had over 100 yards. Bell had 3 tackles in the New York win.

Who and what is the problem with Miami? It is getting increasingly obvious to even the most positive of fans. I would say fire Ireland but please keep him around until the end of the season and make him stand every day in the opponents endzone to watch his mess when his team gets scored on all day long. No use in putting Ireland into an endzone where we are supposed to score because we ain't gonna get there. Then fire his ass on 25th of December.

if the secondary could come up with the occasional turnover this D would be good or better. I agree with Dansby.

take out the turnovers and the team look better than I expected. Hopefully will get the W against OAK next week.

GO DOLPHINS!!!

I feel the defense played pretty well.
The Miami running game was also very well. Bush played real well. If Tannehill can throw over the linemen instead of through them everything will change.
3-4 crazy minutes destroyed everything, but all in all; I think we will win the next game.

JI make or break season. BM: rec~9 yrds~119 avg~ 13.2 TD~1

WTF??

Brandon Marshalls had over 100 receiving yds and a TD..I believe that Tannehill will just be another average QB ! Let's just say it in Ireland language " we have 4th, 5th, 6th,...QB and not a true QB franchise type ".. If Ireland had to do it all over again I'm sure he would have kept Marshalls around to help groom the young QB.

LOL. Mando, rip the D for not getting a TO, but the turnovers put them in a brutal spot vs. a great O. BTW, I thought the D was much better yesterday than in the preseason.

Armando this is 1 of the worst articles/opinions i have EVER read from any journalist on any topic!!
whilst it may be foolish to think that when we were 3-0 up we were cruising and looking like were going to win(except maybe in a football/soccer game ;-) ) the team was playing better than ok. momentum changes everything, so to lose so many points in such a short period of time, some of it bad play some of it bad luck where the ball landed, will have blown almost any team apart. to their credit they didn't give in and i applaud JP for going for all of the 4th downs as FG's would not have helped the teams development 1 bit.
both offense and defence will need to improve/grow as the weeks go by as we all agree, and another positive was the special teams unit.

Whataya mean Texans didn't play that well. Shaub was hitting 10 for 10 passes on his drives.
The thing is that his receivers were snatching the passes even if they were in the same vacinity. Not our guys, other than Bess.
That half-assed reach by Armstrong in the first qtr. to kill a nice drive sticks in my mind.

Team doesn`t have Much Talent....time to clean out the GM and Hire a Guy who actully Built a Super Bowl Team.....

Gotta get rid of Nanee. Every team knows he is either running a slant or comeback pattern. And it's pretty easy for a defense to knock down passes when the qb isn't throwing the ball more than 10 yards downfield. Why did it take until the 4th qtr for Tannehill to throw a deep fade. And where were the deep out patterns??? They have absolutely no one to go to for a td when they're inside the 15. The running game was the only positive I saw on offense. Defense will not be stout. I think we're finding out what Nolan meant to the team as dc.

It's just amazing how the offense can turn the ball over in 4 consecutive possessions, and yet you can still blame the defense.

Fireland... Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...Fireland...

ONLY IN MIAMI WHAERE;;;;;;;;;;


WE CAN KEEP LOUSY OL PLAYERS FOR 4 YEARS EVEN WHEN THEY DON'T SCORE MORE THAN 2 TD'S IN 4 YEARS..................


BESS
HARTLINE
FASANO
THE THREE AMIGOS........

ARMANDO SAID....(( HOUSTON DIDN'T PLAY THT WELL ))///////////////

AMAZING WRITING ARMANDO ,BUT IF WE DID WIN THAT GAME 30-10...WE WOULD HAVE A PARADE......

The D played OK, they still allowed 30 points Andre Johnson still had 120 yards. There were wide open Texans all over the secondary. The Run D was pretty stout considering it was Arian Foster one of the best in the game.

Capone is right.

INT INT INT FUMBLE.

Even if that sequence had read:

INT PUNT PUNT FG

The defense may have kept the Texans to 10 pts at halftime, then bang, you're still in the game.

This loss can't be blamed on the Defence, are you kidding me?...not when the Offence turns the ball over on 4 consecutive posetions. Perhaps the O Line needs to open up a passing lane so your QB can throw...how about that???

THE DEFENSE IS SUCKS..........

THE OFENSE IS SUCKS............

LIFE IS SHORT..........

Negative Armando in true form.

I think Philbin found out a lot about this team.

Now a home game against the Raiders after a short week for them might be what we need.

Mando, didnt the D hold HOU to field goals a couple of times, instead of TDs?--considering the Texans got the ball in FG territory on those turnovers, what else were they supposed to do?.....would sorta be the definition of stopping them, no?--a FG was already in the bag, based on where they got possession......?

This is a team rebuilding, you have a rookie QB, who stares down his receivers and doesn't shift to side to side to get into better throwing lanes. He is a ROOKIE, he will get better. Play calling will need to get better also to move the pocket and give some different looks. Defense had some good some bad, its a new defense. The DE's will need to find ways to get more pressure. I thought that Misi, Solai, Starks all played a good game. Wanted to see more from Odrick and Wake. CB's at time looked shaky but when you put them one on one with Johnson on the outside what do you expect. The Phins played a very good team and for the first 23 minutes made them look ordinary. Turnovers got the Texans Mojo working. Relax this team is a work in progress. New HC, QB, DC just saying.

On another note, I thought the OL played pretty well. There were some big holes opened. I thought John Jerry was pretty good. Martin is still getting his feet wet.

The one thing for the life of me I don't understand is how a guy 6'4 can get so many passes knocked down. His feet aren't moving in the pocket at all times. Moving side to side. Looking for the throwing lanes.

How does Sherman and Philbin not see this in preseason and try to fix it.

Russell in Seattle had less balls tipped and he is 5'11.

Oh one more thing really aggravating me. How many 3rd and 2's are going to have where Tanny does run!!!

The guy was a WR!! Run boot legs!!! QB draws!! Let's get these teams worried about him running!!

So aggravating!!!!!!

Hey - on a positive note at least they ran a screen. Finally, a screen against the blitz!!

I agree that there is plenty wrong with the Dolphins. The one right thing is Jeff Ireland as GM. He has really stocked the roster with outstanding players.

The big story about the Dolphins-Texans game is the Four Turnovers committed by Miami in the first half of the game.
As a result, there were no leaks for the D to plug.
There was major flooding.

Fire the coach, that's the answer.

Do you realize Don Shula would have never been a great coach in Miami under the current ownership or the last. He would have been fired before he got things ironed out.

@ kindry "Who and what is the problem with Miami?"
Sorry A_ _ fair weather fans and the Dolphins Beat writers are the problem. Way too much negative energy projected on the Dolphins. You dorks couldn't believe how well Miami were playing against Houston. Then you people started with the negative thoughts and everything went to crap in under 2 minutes before halftime.

Look! this team is a 4-12 team period. 6-10 if WE over achieve. Now pipe down and weather the storm or jump on the jets bandwagon. Chicago and the 49'ers look sexy too.

I actually feel positive about this game.

I mean after the train wreck of a preseason and finding out more about Philbin and Ireland than I want to know, it felt like, early on and later, there is some chemistry to build upon.

After watching the preseason games that span where Tannehill played like a rookie and a running back gets injured and coughs up the ball...that was the expectation I had for the entire game.

Yet there were some nice throws, runs, stops, catches and returns sprinkled throughout that I did not expect.

And I am starting to appreciate Philbin's dark, sarcastic humor. So he may be a little ocd, I think he's at least going to address the good and bad - and I perhaps a train wreck will not be my expectation for the rest of the season either. We shall see...

This game should have come as a surprise to anyone who watches the NFL. Houston is one of the most stocked team in the NFL right now, while Miami is one of the least. Houston has a core of guys who have played together for years now, while Miami has rookies in lots of places. This was very predictable.

We have a rookie QB, who's GOING TO make rookie mistakes. Like EVERY rookie QB. The goal isn't for him to come out looking like a vet, it's to gain experience, learn and improve. How well he does that will determine if we have our franchise QB or not.

Houston wasn't a test we'd ever have passed. Now the Raiders are a different story. Coming here, after a short week, this is a totally winnable game if Miami plays like it did in the 1st quarter and 1/2. Offense also needs to score TDs. Let's see what we have this week to see where we are (a 2-3 win team or a 4-6 win team).

How long is Miami going to keep playing with no defensive backs? It's been 10 yrs it seems

Every Rookie starter looked better than Tannehill yesterday. Stop with the rookie excuses. Luck passed for 300yds.

People clowned Washington for moving up to RGIII ..now the kid looks to be a better throwing than Michael Vick. Threw all over the field...look poised..moved away from pressure with eyes down field and threw perfect spirals. His team put up 40 against a super bowl contender. Rookie with no number 1 wr??? Still balled.

Damn Wilson almost led his team to a win and drove them the length of the field and throw beautiful balls in the face of blitz pressure.

Tannehill wilted and refused to throw more than a 5 yd route. Stared down his primary and didn't appear to see coverage an take advantage of holes in the secondary.

All this fire Ireland stuff?? Lets be clear the problem is ROSS!!We need an owner that knows football if we get that all the problems go away. Until that time we might as we let Ireland work his magic. And boy does he have the losing touch!!

about the tipped passes you have to give Houston some credit. Houston's DE watt said after the game that the coach told them that tannehill was a rookie and would be making short drops and trying to get the ball out quick and that if they got their arms up they could deflect some passes and it worked.This is just part of the process. Another lesson for a rookie QB.He has great mobility and will adjust.

Stra8, I agree. I was the guy who was SCREAMING for us to move up to get RG3 in the Draft. When people said what are you willing to give up for him, I said EVERYTHING. 1-2-3-4-5 1st-rounders, whatever it takes. I said that because I knew Ireland won't EVER get a player who will make as much of a difference as RG3. NEVER. Not in the past 4 years, not next year or ANYTIME in the future. RG3 is a once-in-a-lifetime talent, we were stupid to let him slip by.

And you see why I said we should get him. He can single-handedly change a game. And on a team with little talent, that's what you need.

Tannehill might still be effective. I'm not giving up on the kid one bit. I'm just saying this way will take longer. Tannehill needs time to be that type of playmaker. And help. Which means we need to put our faith in the GM and talent acquisition. And I personally don't have that faith in this GM. Maybe Philbin will be a good influence in the next Draft. Maybe we get more playmakers. But that's just a maybe. If we do, we might just have something. If not, it'll be another long decade for us fans.

yeah take out the turnovers, the penalites, the missed plays and I think we have a Super Bowl team.

Is it to late to move Tannehill to WR and start Moore at QB?

Look, I am not a pessimistic person, but from what I've been seeing since last season ended is an organization that is completely disfunctional. So much so, that Peyton Manning, Jeff Fisher and others said NO THANK YOU!! Rebuilding should NOT mean lets throw players in there now, that are simply not ready!+ kill their confidence for future. Dumb Move!! Tannehil: like his spirit, but NO where near ready. You can see they are ridding themseves of the players with baggage, but what are we left with? No corners, Sign Goodman (quick fix) No offensive guards (sign Scott) quick fix. No W.R's (sign Burress) quick fix. Watched Hard Knocks: Was Horrid!! Philbin has NO character or connection with players, same goes for that clueless G.M!! AND BTW: Haven't we been rebuilding since the 70,s? Enough is Enough

At this rate Tannehill will have 0 TD's and 48 INT's. YIKES!

jeff, Moore should be the starter. Tannehill is WAY too green.

tucci, we would NOT have won that game if Moore played. We WON'T go to the Playoffs if Moore plays. So why play Moore? EVERY ROOKIE QB has growing pains. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. All the greats, all the mediocre players, and all the busts. So in a meaningless Season, why NOT let the rookie QB play to gain experience. He'll do some good things, and make lots of mistakes. The goal is, next year, when hopefully there's more talent on the team, and they can REALLY try to do something, the QB will be ready to lead them. If Moore played this year, we'd have to wait EVEN LONGER for Tannehill to develop.

This was exactly the right call this year. It should pay off next year.

I beleive Tannehill will turn out to be a very good QB.He has poise Intelligence,physical ability.And he has what our QB's have been missing the it factor,which confidence mixxed with a littel cockiness,mixed with humility.He does make adjustments,he gets it>now all you guys that played with keyboards,instead of footballs and there seems to be alot of you.Relax I played college ball was a defensive end I seen that bad look from a QB indecision,confussion,and the worst tensness in the body as the pressure approaches,I saw none of that in Tannehill."just slide over" "just throw over the lineman" please.Put most you guys bak there and you would see all the thingsI just mentioned.You try it forget your balles getting tipped at ths line>You would wet yourself,cry,run and call your grandmother.You want to be a real fan suck it up support the kid and your team.We all have the right to be upset and discouraged,could you imagine being a browns fan in my 42 years as a dolfan there have been way more good times than bad this too shall pass.I see a big change on the horizon.this guy Philbin is for real.You cant keep changing coaches,schemes and identities every two years.We need consistency you will see this team jell and grow as the season goes on.When the learn the scheme and a playmaker in the secondary and theis defense will be top 5.Watch Brian Hartline be very sucessful.go phins soory for the long wind I am just sick of the whinning.

Tannehill's delivery makes for a lot of tipped passes despite his height. Heck, he wasnt even good in college.

40, agreed. Tannehill will be ok. Just needs time, and more experience. AND HELP!!!

lets c next week.

There is no doubt that Moore gives us the best chance to win, But they need to know if have to draft Barkley next year.

i'm going to look at the bright side of this.

first remember new offense, new defense.

take away those 6 minute of craziness and the score is 10-10. 10-10 for 54 minutes of play against a team picked by more "experts" to make the Super Bowl than the pats. everyone thought we'd lose about 27-10 and we did. but we lost the turnover battle 4-0. we were right with them until that happened. i thought there were plenty of positives on both sides of the ball. the run offense was very good. there were plenty of holes to run though. the passing game had it's moments, both hartline and bess got open. i hate naanee, he got to get demoted and rishard mathews needs to be activated. mathews fights for the ball. it was tight coverage and maybe shouldn't have been thrown but naanee needed to not get bumped out of the way like swatting a fly. tannehill just missed on a couple of game breakers. the ones to hartline and to armstrong. as far as the tipped balls. he doesn't take away from his height with his throwing motion, so maybe he needs to slide in the pocket more and look off his target some. the o-line needs to get better on cutting the pass rush. did most of the tips happen on martin's side? if so that's some thing he can learn too. tannehill showed his toughness and ability to shake off his mistakes. also remember that a couple trips in the red zone we HAD to go for TD's so tannehill showed he could move the team.

rough start? yes. room to improve? plenty. i just wanna see the team play better each week. i believe there is plenty of talent of the team. of course we need more!! but this is the team we have. i certainly don't wanna see ireland panic and trade all the picks he built up!! let the young team we have grow together. only one game in and i saw some good things to build on from some of the new guys who have plenty of room to grow and build on. martin, tannehill, vernon, lane, marshall and of course thigpen all showed the can make plays. hopefully next week they are even better.

can't we have two separate blogs?? one for the people who NEVER say anything positive even though there are some positives. and one for the people who recognize the bad but still see the good things too. even in a 30-10 loss!!!

I never understood how a guy with 6 losses as a college senior gets picked at #8 in the draft.

Sorry, POST DOESN'T DESERVE A RESPONSE!!

All Post shoud be about Ireland and his lack of Player Evaluation.

MARHSA Wouldn't have fit here. U got a Rookie Qb!! But Guys like LLoyd and Manningham would for the Low. The Ballboy would've done Better signing Them 2 than Garrard and Naanee!!

Ur Done Ireland!!!!!!!


Now On the D?

Adrian Foster didn't reach 100yds with almost 30 carries! Not Bad. Houston AVg. 2.4 yds a Carry on 35 carries for 85 yds.

Even the Pass D!! Yes, we still can't cover a TE!!

But Johnson didn't Explode!! He had a Avg day by AJ Standards. No other WR from the Texans had more than 2 catches. So we Neutralized the WR's.

With all that Said!! THE DEFENSE SUCKS ON 3RD DOWN!! HORRENDOUS, HORRIBLE, INEPT, GARBAGE, BASURA, DISGUSTING!!!

TOO MANY DRIVES KEPT GOING FOR THE TEXANS BECAUSE THE DEFENSE COULDN'T GET A STOP ON 3RD DOWN!!!!!

Th team is pure trash. Only 2-3 players would be any part of a good team. The rest are scrubs or replacement players.

Tannehill's incompetence keeps the D on the field all game. If Tanny was decent the D would get a rest.

there is an excellent article by barry jackson summarizing ireland's moves this past offseason, and why they might likely end up getting him fired. this year was not mandated a rebuilding, but was de facto turned into one by the gm. why? when you make mistakes with your personnel decisions, its easy to cover by scrambling for draft picks and claiming you are building for the future. except, the person who keeps screwing up that future should not get to keep building it.

dc dolfan, I do like certain things bout Tannehill, but its like entering a gunfight with no bullets. W.R's , Line, T.E.'s, and coaches are all well below average. He can learn on bench, in practice, in film room. Then, when he is mentally ready and has stronger supporting cast let him play with the grown ups!Like you said, we are not winning anything this year anyway, so why expose a talented kid for failure..?

DC...
I woudn't annoit RG3 just yet....The first game of the season...is the GREAT eqalizer...its the best time to pull off an upset...and the SKins did it...congrats to them....

However...

I would wait till about week 10 before "crowning" RG3....

Besides...the last 4 years the skins have started 3-1...and stil finished under .500...they are kind the ANTI-FINS when it comes to the 1st quarter of the season...the FINS in reverse....

jaison, if you look back, EVERY INT was a pass going to Nannee. Frankly, I find that pick-up the BIGGEST reason to fire Ireland. He's completely horrible. Not a WR. He should just be cut outright.

Tucci, we'll agree to disagree. It's very hard to learn from the bench. You need to go through the gametime situations to gain the real experience. Sure, Rodgers did it, but that's because he had Favre ahead of him. Not a backup like Moore. And I agree Tannehill doesn't have much to work with. Just makes it that much more important for him to get his footwork right, go through his reads, learn to make adjustments to his throws (like he did somewhat), learn defenses. He's a smart kid, and tough. I don't think this will crush him, I think it will be a good lesson for the future.

dc u can't have just an ok at the qb position. it wont work.
lol

dc, i totally agree that naanee should be cut outright. the guy is awful. as far as the tipped passes, that is also on martin for not cutting j.j. watt. there is no way to get his hands down hold them, so he either has to engage or go low (which is legal if he is not engaged by someone else). but, it was not lost on me that those passes were intended for naanee.. the only way to get him the ball is a quick slant, since he can't get open otherwise.

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