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The breakdown of Ryan Tannehill's first game

Before we start today, let me update you on a roster move: The Dolphins re-signed defensive lineman Ryan Baker to the 53-man roster this morning because they are seemingly concerned about the injury status of Tony McDaniel, who has been injured most of the preseason and got hurt again against Houston. With the signing the Dolphins have 53 players on the roster. Onward:

Ryan Tannehill's first outing? Not good. Not terrible.

The statistics say it was terrible because three interceptions pulsates on that stat line, demanding attention and concern. But frankly a look at the three picks reveals that indeed Tannehill threw the passes but was failed by circumstances around him, teammates around him, good opponent play against him.

It wasn't all his fault.

Believe it or not, my major concern coming out of Sunday's 30-10 loss to Houston concerning Ryan Tannehill was not his interceptions -- two of which came off tipped passes at the line of scrimmage.

My major concern is about his accuracy. The kid was off on a handful of passes, the most obvious of these was a slant pattern to Anthony Armstrong which was way high.

My secondary concern is that he doesn't often go to his secondary receiver and often locks on to his target receiver. One time when he did go through his progression he found Reggie Bush for a nice 12-yard gain on third down. 

The third concern is that he threw a couple of passes late. It's like he hasn't caught on to the speed of the game yet. The interception on a slant pass attempt to Legedu Naanee was an example of Tannehill staring down the receiver while also throwing late. It cost him as Jonathan Joseph intercepted the pass.

The manipulation of the defensive backs can be learned and accuracy can be improved some but unless it happens relatively quickly Tannehill is headed toward a tough first season given that he has practically no help around him.

Why do I say he has practically no help?

If you'll notice, there are precious few completions to wide receivers early in the montage below of every Tannehill throw. Truth is no wide receiver other than Davone Bess caught a pass in the first three quarters against Houston. That means no one was a factor other than Bess until the game was out of hand and the Texans DBs had backed off somewhat.

Not. Good.

Beyond that, you'll notice in the montage below that until Brian Hartline caught a 34-yard pass in the fourth quarter, the long gains of the day were passes to fullback Jorvorskie Lane and halfback Daniel Thomas. I'm not complaining about long gains to running backs. I am complaining that wide receivers couldn't get behind the Houston secondary until the fourth quarter and it only happened once.

Anyway, Tannehill threw 36 passes on Sunday. He completed 20, including a shovel pass to Reggie Bush for zero yards. Below are all those passes courtesy of one of my twitter followers -- slipperysoap. Yeah, that's his handle. I didn't make that up.

Check it:

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only Long, Soliai, and Marshall could have even been considered as a MVP on a 6-10 team.


Posted by: Yesterday'sGone | September 12, 2012 at 11:31 AM

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Well, I guess the players did something they couldnt have done DUMBO! LOL

1ST:
THE GAME IS TOO FAST FOR MOST ROOKIES.

VERY FEW COME OUT ON FIRE.

BUT EVEN LESS WITHOUT A FEW YEARS UNDER CENTER IN COLLEGE.

2ND:
I HAVE BEEN UP HERE FOR 4 TO 5 YEARS SAYING WE NEED WEAPONS.

NOT A WEAPON BUT A BUNCH OF THEM.

I DON'T CARE HOW GREAT A QB IS HE'S NOTHING WITHOUT WEAPONS.

LIKE I SAID BEFORE WRS GIVE QBS NAMES.

TAKE S.F.49ers. THEY BUILT THAT TEAM THE RIGHT WAY.

THEY TOOK WEAPONS AND ALLOWED THEM TO GROW.

WE TRADE THEM FOR LESS THAN WE SPENT ON THEM.

3RD:
WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER PICKED RYAN IN THE FIRST PLCE.

I'M A FIRM BELIEVER IN TAKING THE BEST PLAYER.

OR WHOM EVER IS THE BEST AT HIS POSITION AT THAT PICK.

WE PICKED 8TH AND GOT THE "3RD" BEST PLAYER AT HIS POSITION WHEN WE COULD HAVE TAKEN THE BEST PLAYER AT 20 DIFFERENT POSITIONS.

4TH:
WHATS SO SPECIAL ABOUT DRAFT PICKS?

ONE PLAYER FOR ONE PICK. I WOULD NEVER EVER THINK TO TRADE BACK UNLESS I'M GETTING A HIGH DRAFT PICK THE NEXT YEAR OR A PLAYER THAT'S GOOD.

A TRADE BACK TO GET A WORST PLAYER THAN YOU WOULD HAVE HAD AND A PLAYER THAT MAY BE EVEN WORST THAN HIM.

NO THANKS TALENT WIN GAMES.

AND MOST OF IT IS IN THE 1ST ROUND.

THE YEAR WE GOT MARSHALL WE SHOULD HAVE TRADED UP THAT DRAFT TO GET JULIO JONES.

THIS YEAR I WOULD HAVE SURE UP THE O-LINE.

2 PICKS DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT FOR 5 YEARS.

OR TRADE UP TO GET A STAR.

Problem with Ireland is he isnt really a gm. He's a talent scout that happens not to be overly good at that neither.

Ireland has proven he doesnt have much of clue when it comes to matching the talent with the system being ran. He's also more interested in bringing garbage he calls acorns, or players hungry to prove themselves. Usually these players have bounced form team to team(3-4 or more) and still have yet to prove themselves. Ireland chooses to ignore this.

Then when it comes to drafting, Ireland seems to be more interested in looking for "suck-ups" than real football players. He calls these suck-ups, "players who were leaders on thier college teams". They may be high character guys, but theyre low quality nfl performers.

Also, remember the "double-down drafting? It took two draft picks to find 1 plainly average player at best. The fo decision making has been almost totally horrible over the last 5yrs. 5yrs in, and not even close to being a playoff team is absolutely garbage.

Most fans lack the football knowledge to understand the personnel moves of Jeff Ireland. Ireland is thinking several moves ahead like a chess master. Think of the pawns as acorns, and the knights as players such as Michael Egnew. No reason to label all of the pieces, since Jeff Ireland is the master at moving the pieces. Casual fans look at the lack of tight ends, receivers, defensive backs as a weakness of Jeff Ireland. That is far from the truth, but rather these perceived weaknesses are all part of the plan. Hang in there a few more years and be patient; the plan will become more clear as the seasons pass. Jeff Ireland is thinking several moves ahead, and his stockpiling of draft picks is proof. A few more Jeff Ireland drafts will stock the team with more Koa Misis, Michael Egnews, and Jared Odricks.

IRA,

Ireland a chessmaster? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

Only thing he's mastered in Miami is putting this Dolphins franchise in checkmate. That he's mastered. LOL

One Positive from watching the Tape.

N-Ee WAS BENCHED MIDWAY THRU THE 3RD. The Secret Weapon Replaced him the rest of the Game.

Maybe Philbin thought that the other Players would think he was showing favoritism for making Hartline the #1 Wr.

(Oh Yeah Dashi Went there.)

lol

IRA,

Ireland thinking several moves ahead? Hmm... I gues he went, "Hmmm.... we'll burn 2 2nd rd picks, bring Marshall in, trade him for 3rd rd picks. Right about the same time I spend the 6th overall pick for a qb".

Wow! I guess the rest of the nfl never saw that chessmaster move coming. Neither did we. Hell, neither did Ryan Tannehill. LOL

YG, now you are getting it. Think of the money saved and the acorn potential in trading second round picks for third round picks. It is all testament to the genius of Jeff Ireland.

ArmandoSalguero First play of team drills today? A deflected pass at line of scrimmage by Cameron Wake. glad to see problem has been addressed.

lol

IRA,

Sorry to break it to you but someone has to do it. Jeff Ireland wouldnt be the best chess player in a room full of four year olds.

2watt,

It could also be, after watching Sunday's game, dolphins defenders finally figured out knocking down passes at the line of scrimmage is legal. LOL

Exactly IRA, FINALLY SOMEONE IS SPEAKING TRUTH.

Ireland IS thinking several moves ahead. See, he got rid of Marshall, because he had the FORESIGHT that Legadu Nannee would be available and could do his job.

Marshall = ProBowler
Nannee = Worst WR in the NFL

See how ingenious that was?

Or, Ireland passes on drafting a capable TE in 2008, 2009, 2010, until last year he breaks down and picks up Charles Clay, who's still trying to figure out what planet he's on. Then, he doubles down on mediocrity and picks up Michael Egnew. Again, GENIUS. I mean, forget Gronk, Hernandez, Gresham, Graham, Davis, etc. We've got Charles Clay and Michael Egnew. GO IRELAND!

How about secondary? Grimes is out in Atlanta, off a ProBowl Season. Our #1, Vontae Davis, just got shipped off to the Colts. Of course, instead of Davis we could have gotten Clay Matthews, Hakeem Nicks, LeSean McCoy. But the brilliant GM took a corner who's first reaction to getting traded is, "I need to call my Grandma."

IRA, you're right, thank God Ireland is on our side. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

Chad Pennington offered the following to correct Tannehills problem of balls being tipped by the DL:

“Especially with the underneath routes, you have to have what they call a ‘high plant leg,’” Pennington said. “You actually have to throw it taller than what your body is. You have to get up on that front leg and be able to extend as high as you can and almost throw down.”


“Watch Peyton Manning – he gets really tall. Because those routes are not about arm strength. It’s about getting the ball over the defensive linemen and getting it back down to your receiver. You can’t stay at the same level that you would if you’re throwing a 20-yard out route.”

“But that’s something that’s certainly correctable. He has to work on it in practice every day. He’s got to get as many throws as he can before and after practice, to where when you’re in the game, you don’t have to think about it.”
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Adjustments that are made when passing on the shorter routes. Coaching the talented rookie QB should work to help the team win. In tennis there are also adjustments on certain shots that have to be made.

Actually, dlinemen should have a 3.5 sec clock in thier head just like a qb is supposed. As a d-lineman, after about 3 secs if youre not seriously threatning to sack the qb, youre supposed to get your hands in the air.

Usually our pass rushers dont get to qb nor to they try to get thier hands in the air to hopefully bat the pass down. At times this will help your primary pass rusher get a split second longer to get to the passer. Because the qb holds the ball a split second longer because the d-linemen in front of him, threatens to bat the pass down.

Everyone knew Tannehill would struggle he's a rookie and there is no receiver talent on the team when you trade your No. 1 receiver and tell everyone we have a bunch of 3,4, and 5 receivers which Ireland did what do you expect. It's only 1 game let him grow this year
this team is no playoff team anyway. Who knows a light bulb goes off in Ross and Ireland will be gone.

promichael,

I remember vintage Peyton Manning, on 3-step drops, quickly "pump-faking in one direction". Then quickly coming back the wr he really wanted to get the ball to in another direction.

You do have time to do this on 3-step drops. You can also give a bubble-screen look to onside and have a slant route set-up on the other side.

Then its up to the qb to sell the pump fake to either side while choosing to go the other direction.

Ryan Tannehill is a good, "vacant lot", QB. He is not a professional QB.

He holds all the records in "run toward that tree and I will throw it to you" touchdowns.

Ask yourselves this question....

If Ryan is so smart, why are we running a college offense? Why not run an NFL offense?

it is an nfl offense. sherman brought the pro style offense to college . come on man u know that

still think polian would be best guy to bring in for gm. he would bring instant respect around the league

Andy NJ is correct

bill,

Winning would bring instant respect around the league. Maybe we need to bring in Charlie Sheen.

that would work also dc

Tebow's jump passes *never* get batted down.

My friend Paul S. says things happen sometimes, that's just how it is.

I told him it is a bit more complex than that. It really isn't about the money or the women. It is about the power.

Then we die, become worm food, then worm poop and spend eternity in Hell, which is quite a long time.

I'm not sure if he understood, but he is giving away all his money to the poor now.

This is some other guy besides the one from Kiss. This is some guy without makeup and tights.

He would make a good reciever (on the Dolphins) just average otherwise.

I told him Tanneyhill can and probably will have a nice career and there is hope for this Miami team. Next year might be good. This year might be okay, given the expectations.

Besides the whole thing is a corporation, not a fun diversion. People get too much acclaim when they win and not enough (I mean too much) when they lose.

Very little separates the good teams and the bad teams. It comes down to injuries, bad calls, turnovers and luck. And we all worship the lucky ones as if they are some sort of overpaid heros, when we should look to the Saints in Heaven who should us how to live life with the focus on our eternity and where we hope to spend it.

Tannehill = Henne 2.0

Remember that scene in Hall Pass, where the police catches Andy Sedekis jerking off in his car? And the one cop calls the woman cop over, and both are laughing at the size of his johnson?

That's the Miami Dolphins in a nutshell.

They can try to correct Tannehill's throwing motion in the offseason. But if we can draft Matt Barkley we cant pass him up.

awesome montage, thanks.

take out those brutal 5 or 6 minutes in the 2nd quarter and i thought it was a good start for a rookie. I think we will only know if Tanny has got what it takes is when he consistently makes things happen in the red zone. Henne was actually a decent QB until he got in side the 20.

SF, you have it right. We just need to apply the logic to the entire team. Take out the Dolphins bad minutes (where they do things like give up interceptions and touchdowns) they are a good team.

Overall I believe he did well considering it was his first game. You can see they were blitzing him on most of his passes, and I was also impressed on one passing play he moved the running back over to the blitzer. The backs and line also did a very good job in picking up the blitzes.

On the interception with Naane, all the fault does not lay on Tannehill. He did lock into the receiver (which is normal for young quarterbacks), but Naane should've placed his body between the quarterback and the defender. For an experienced wide receiver, this is a huge mistake. In regard to his throws being off to Armstrong, that is to be expected since they haven't played that long together; they, will get on the same page. The only area that he needs allot of work on is on his touch throws when in the red-zone. He is good on the straight throws, but has no feel for his touch passes.

I also don't agree with the amount of throws to the backs. Since everybody pretty much agrees it's the best unit on offense, it makes sense to utilize them the most.

Armando, pass on my(our) thanks to 'slipperysoap' for putting together the video. I'm a Fin game-starved fan, here in the Pacific Northwest.
Speaking of which, there was a comment in a Seattle paper about the Seahawk's rookie QB that sounded like it could have been written about Miami's rookie QB:
"Wilson can't mature if the OL can't protect".
Echoes of truth from 3,500 miles away.

Sherman was fired....twice...that we know of.

it is an nfl offense. sherman brought the pro style offense to college . come on man u know that

Posted by: bill connors | September 12, 2012 at 12:41 PM

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So Bill, there really are no excuses this team couldn't score a TD on offense then....right?

YG,

Look like you have 1001 opinions on all things Dolphins today. OK if the rest of us get a chance to chime in.

I'm confused what you are saying about Tannehill. You said this morning 'Tannehill has a ton of a ways to go before he's the QB we expect' (not even sure that's anything remotely close to grammatically correct English but whatever, we get the point) but you think he's going to be a 'very good QB'. Wasn't it just yesterday you were saying we should package this guy for a second roound pick and draft Matt Barkley? So I'm confused. Why are we getting rid of a guy you think is going to be a 'very good QB in this league' for a 2nd round pick and drafting a guy we really don't know if he's going to be any good or not. Shouldn't we wait for the guy 'who's going to be a very good QB' and draft somebodt else. Are you going to blame this on my reading comprehension or is this the classic 'flip-flop'?

Also, where is it written that a team that goes 6-10 shouldn't have an MVP? I guess Adrian Pedersen doesn't deserve to be the MVP of last year's Vikings team, despite the team sucking. The MVP of the team was voting on by the players. Interesting they picked a guy who didn't make the Pro Bowl in Moore over a guy who DID make it in Marshall. I think that says a lot about what the players said about Marshall.

Do any one of you realize that 4 of the 5 rookie starting QB's lost their games and all 4 of the last super bowl winners lost too, and we are here trashing Tannehill for his performance. Ireland must go but give the rookie QB and HC a chance.

Mando -

To be fair, I think Ryan should have had at least 5 drops as catches. That would have helped him a bit. We all know his 3-step drop is an issue with the 2 bats at the line. The O-line not pulling hard enough and shitty receivers are the other 2/3rd's.

I'm as frustrated as everyone else, however I think he needs a little bit more credit then we are giving him. I think Oakland at home might be more fitting for him for his official 'good' start. I think we will win as well.

My questions are, can he improve on his 3-step drop/looking off defenses instead of honing in on receivers?

How much blame do the o-line/receivers get?

It's only been one game and I haven't lost hope just yet in Ryan. The minute I start worrying that we've made another bad draft call - and I think I can speak for all us fans -is the minute I start to lose what little hope I have.

This is the type of posting that I'd like to see from Mando each week. The video from slipperysoap (great name BTW!) is awesome.

The reason for no WR's other than Bess getting the ball in first half is that most of the packages had 2 TE's and and RB in with Bess. So Nanee was really the only other option.

I liked some of THill's decisions and improvisation to avoid taking losses and finding checkdown options. Early in the first QTR they were trying to get a screen to Thomas, he was covered and THill threw it out of bounds - good decision.

Based on the video review I have 3 areas I would be critical on for THill (order of importance).

1) When in the Red Zone he had some time in the pocket and threw beneath the end zone. He has to give the receivers another second to get open and he has to get the ball into the end zone to score TD's. Check downs in the red zone do us very little good.

2) I would use less 3 step drops. Give him more space and run a few longer routes to get him off he line and avoid the tips.

3) He took one sack toward the end where he should have thrown it away.

This is a GM problem. RT isn't much different than Chad Henne, or Matt Moore...strong arm, fairly accurate and surrounded with less than average talent. The line is a wreck and the receivers/tight ends wouldn't start on 90% of NFL teams. All three QBs had/have similar negatives, they tend to lock on their targets. So the past will most likely be a fairly good indicator of future performance.
We fans now must wait for Ross to realize this GM continues executing poor personnel decisions, then select a replacement GM that's willing to join for the money, cause let's face it, there's nothing current about this organization that says, 'class' or 'character' or instills a sense of purpose and pride. This is all followed by multiple years of drafts, trades and players released or allowed to leave in an effort to place the new GM's stamp on the team. This also limits a turn around via free agency as rebuilding teams tend not to draw top quality free agents. The rebuilding will be for years to come.

Please, stop the Payton Manning stupid comparision, Manning is a "HALL OF FAME QB" with records and SB win, also, he was an Elite QB since he was in college, not like this garbage of Tannehill, who the idiot of Ireland make the big mistake of bringing here and trying to sell to us, the fans, Stop the stupid comment of "Manning have 28 interceptions on his rookie year" he also have 26 TD passes, if this garbage at least throw to the endzone and score 3 TD like Manning did his first year, we should have won the game, also, stop the stupid comment about he doesnt have talent around, Devone Bess is a SUPERSTAR WR and Bush is a PLAYMAKER, he got Long protecting him, mark my words, this guy is just another Ireland failure and almost everyone is buying that this guy is a franchise QB including Armando, Matt Moore is by far a better QB, I hope that Ross ask this clowns to star him before the season is over like last year.

It is not Payton, it's Peyton.

Lots of experts here. I'd like to know from them, how are throwing lanes formed?

People lookinglookingnow how throwing lanes are formed.

Every week I will post a Tannenhill Passing breakdown video on my You Tube site and I am sure mando will disect it here.

IF you want to see a real QB all of Dan Marino's TDs are also on my channel from 1983 - 1999. Subscribe and you can get updates!

http://www.youtube.com/user/slipperysoaap?feature=mhee

Although the league is an up tempo pass happy league now, that is not what fits this team at this time. A rookie QB would benefit from a stronger running game and play action controlling down and distance. RB is the deepest position on the team. The defense is pretty decent. Play to the team's strengths. A rookie QB with terrible receivers being forced to play Peyton Manning style up tempo offense is a horrible idea. Shouldn't have traded Marshall QB with a ton of experience, but he would look terrible in this system with these receivers. He looks good by playing off the running game and having real threats when Houston doesn throw the ball. Tannehill's accuracy on a few throws was not good, but it's got to be tough when no receivers gain any separation and every throw has zero margin for error.

Miami fans: look at the bright side, the worse we do the more draft picks we get, which is GREAT, ONLY if we FIRE IRELAND FIRST! Just saying...

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