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The outgrowth from battedballgate

The story du jour at Dolphins camp continues to be the four batted passes the Dolphins gave up to Houston on Sunday and all the sidebars coming out of that story.

The question is not who's fault those batted passes were. Everybody was at fault. Quarterback Ryan Tannehill needs to find a passing lane. The offensive line needs to gut-punch defensive linemen to get their hands down. Maybe coaches shouldn't be calling so many slants, particularly on three-step drops.

But this much is certain: It is an issue that has dogged Tannehill and Dolphins offensive coordiantor Mike Sherman before. I was told by Charean Williams of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram that last season the A&M offense suffered 19 batted passes.

So this has been an issue before.

It was an issue in practice today as the first play in team period was, of course, a batted pass by defensive end Cameron Wake.

Beyond that, there is a narrative out there that one reason Houston defensive end J.J. Watt was able to be so effective in batting three of the passes against the Dolphins is that he knew the snap count and that he stole the snap count by watching Hard Knocks.

Well, that's interesting. Maybe Watt did steal the snap count. But it cannot be the reason he batted the passes.

"That makes no sense whatsoever," guard Richie Incognito said of Watt's contention. "It was so loud, we couldn't even hear the snap count. There's no way he heard it. He's just blowing smoke. Me and Jake Long were talking about this. We couldn't hear the snap count. There's no way him all the way out there could hear the snap count."

And then there's this:

"We were on silent count most of the time," Incognito said. "J.J. really has no idea what he's talking about ... It's ridiculous."

Coach Joe Philbin confirmed the Dolphins used a good bit of silent count. He wasn't sure of the percentage of plays so he estimated "20 percent" conservatively.

Regardless of whether Watt stole the snap count or not, battedballgate is a big deal to the Dolphins this week.

"A lot's been made this past week about correcting tipped passes," Incognito said. "We have to stay on [the defensive linemen]. We have to hit 'em. As soon as they jump we have to attack them and make them get their hands down."

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Monkey Boy(aka Sparrow/Continental/jcb, etc, etc...)was swinging all over Tannehill's nads after the draft.
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Here are a few of my aliases.

Tony Suckrano
Jeff Suckland

Your tin foil hat conspiracies only shows how insecure you are as a person. Why do you even CARE if someone hates Tanne or uses aliases?

Don't read if it makes you so insecure. Little biach.

PS...I never liked Tanne.

I WAS THE ONE SAYING ROSS AND IRELAND ARE DRAFTING OUT OF FEAR INSTEAD OF NECESSITY.

Remember that?

"You and your men are the biggest mistake in the history of NASA," a career astronaut tells Stamper.

--The Movie Armageddon w/Bruce Willis

"Ireland and Tannehill are the biggest mistake in the history of the Miami Dolphins." a career Dolfan tells homers.

-- Just the facts w/JackSparrow

My oh my, what will the homers say when we go from batted balls to pick sixes?

Almost had one on Sunday.

What will the narrative be then? Lets run through the list.

1. Blame the O-line
2. Blame the play calling.
3. Blame the WR's.
4. Blame the ref.
5. Blame Obama.
6. Blame the terrorists.
7. Blame it on Rio.
8. Blame it on the rain.
9. Blame it on the traffic.
10. Blame it on Wanny, Tuna, Suckrano, Bowles, etc

Not once will they ever blame the "vacant lot" QB pretending to be an NFL QB.

THAT FIRST PICK SIX IS GONNA BE THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR HIS HORRIBLE EXPERIMENT KNOWN AS RYAN TANNEHILL.

Its simple....Tannehill has zero pre-snap vision. He is a lock and load, vacant lot, QB. He only sees half the field post-snap.
Ala...Matt Leinart.

Posted by: JackSparrow | September 12, 2012 at 08:13 PM

Jack, come on man. I thought we done told you!

At the collegiate level, almost all QB's are only reading half the field, 1 read, check down read and GO, even a 3rd of the field read and go, etc, etc.

In College, Cam Newton's coaches dumbed down his reads to the lowest common denominator. He's progressed in his reading the defense abilities and is doing good.

I said all that to say this, Tannehill is making progress in making his reads. He's only played ONE single NFL game.

Now please, just stop. You're embarrassing yourself and wasting good blog space.

Come on now........I said PLEASE ;)

Don't read if it makes you so insecure. Little biach.

Posted by: JackSparrow | September 12, 2012 at 08:17 PM

Ah Jack........come on now......only 3 aliases?

Yeah and my a ss sucks buttermilk on a sunny Sunday!

I really don't read your trolling crap, but seeing your name time after time, with just straight up retarded comments, day in and day out..........Come On!

How much of your bullshyt do you expect people to take without pointing out retardation? Theres only so much shyt intelligent people can take before it's: Let embarras the retard time!

You're an EASY little Be-acth though, you embarras YOURSELF ;)

Bhwaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

0-1, and counting.

I got an answer to all the questions!! Maybe the team just sucks!!!

Monkey Boy(aka Sparrow/Continental/jcb, etc, etc...)was swinging all over Tannehill's nads after the draft.
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Here are a few of my aliases.
Tony Suckrano
Jeff Suckland

Posted by: JackSparrow | September 12, 2012 at 08:17 PM
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Just a FEW? Be honest, how many do you REALLY use-Duh(like we don't already know).

Look at this Dolt Folks. He's so delusion he's completely clueless. As a means of defending himself from accusations of being the biggest troll here, he says:

Duh, here are just a FEW of my aliases, Diiiiiir!

So your a self admitted retarded troll piece of shyt. The kind of guy I'd like to meet just one time in a Bar or someplace.

Don't get excited and flatter yourself, I'm NOT coming onto you. But I'll guarantee you one thing punk. If I had just half a chance with you, you little poosy be-atch, you'd do a whole lot of growing up as I be-atch slapped your pink a ss around the parking lot!

And you can BET own Dat!

Freaking admits to trolling around wrecking my former favorite Dolphin Blog. Admits to being stump dumb and stoopid too like it's no big deal. Just harrassing EVERYONE day in and day out like it's nothing.

Oh yeah, I'd be-atch slap some sense into you Boy, like right quick!

Does his nut sack tighten up and that's why you get so mad with me?

Posted by: JackSparrow | September 12, 2012 at 08:21 PM

Always thinking about these big strong players nut sacks eh?

I could give two shyts how you feel about Tanny, his tight pants and his cup size.

Why do you have to constantly ruin this blog with you dumb comments and your dummer multiple sign in names?

Can't you find another blog to wreck? Tell me boy, are you too stupid to find another one?

The Closet is real Funny, could you really see anyone fearing this child. Get a life punk.

Last week, no one was talking to me. This week, everyone wants to be me.

My work is done.

My oh my, what will the homers say when we go from batted balls to pick sixes?
Almost had one on Sunday.
What will the narrative be then? Lets run through the list.
1. Blame the O-line
2. Blame the play calling.
3. Blame the WR's.
4. Blame the ref.
5. Blame Obama.
6. Blame the terrorists.
7. Blame it on Rio.
8. Blame it on the rain.
9. Blame it on the traffic.
10. Blame it on Wanny, Tuna, Suckrano, Bowles, etc
Not once will they ever blame the "vacant lot" QB pretending to be an NFL QB.

Posted by: JackSparrow | September 12, 2012 at 08:36 PM

You and your gaytard boy toy will probably do just this. Regardless of what you post here. I can tell you're ignorant enough to do it. You'll never admit it, but we all know better. We've seen all your dumb crap.

On the other hand, the good posters here seemed to be able to call it on Penny, Henne and Moore. Why would it be any different with Tanne?

Because it fits your retarded gay-trolling agenda?

Yep......We Know!

How much longer till Armando bans Odin?
Dufe, pollute another blog.
BTW, Cotes got a blog filled with douches.ENJOY

Anytime! Anywhere!

How much longer till Armando bans Odin?
Dufe, pollute another blog.
BTW, Cotes got a blog filled with douches.ENJOY
Posted by: Just passing by. | September 12, 2012 at 09:07 PM

So you admit to trolling Cotes blog as well. You are some piece of shyt, but I'm sure you already know that.

PS: Just Passing By = Jack Swallows

Why don't you put down the keypad. Get out of Mommy's basement and do something?

Hey, why don't you go invade Cuba - AGAIN?

Bhwaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

You know: Viva La Reveloucion!

Yeah, yah, yeah.......Psssssssssfpt!

We all know how THAT worked out you fat lazy basta rd!

ROTFLMAO - SMH ;)

Thought So. just another Closet child on line,go play little boy.

Out!

Armando is married and you still swallow for him.

Oops, let me guess, you think thats some big secret too?

Posted by: Coalition To Get Coalition Out Of The Closet | September 12, 2012 at 09:03 PM

Not a single day goes by where odin doesn't disrespect the blog with disgusting homosexual references. Not a single day.

Rice @ 9:26,

ROTFLMFAO! You got skills Mr. Beans!

Armando, why do you continue to let disgusting odin trash post here? Why? Nothing but disgusting drivel. He is chasing away otherwise good bloggers

Put the Beaver back in @ QB!! Please!!

Oakland sucks more than Sparrow, which is a lot. Bess and Hartline are # 3 WR's. The man needs help!
Did Daniel Thomas get injured by Houston 2 years in a row? We might as well give his carries to the full back.
Armstrong and Neneee are useless.
And Bess can't hold his blocks on the outside. He cost us 2 TD's Sunday. We look so dumb for trading Marshall for Egnew.

Lamar Miller activated in place of Daniel Thomas. Thank God!!!

Ireland u clown! Reggie Bush had just as many receiving yards as Bess and Hartline. Fire him Ross!

To the Clown from the Last blog.

Yes, they were the Deflections were in the Shotgun.

BUT U STILL CAN TAKE UR DROPS IN THE SHOTGUN. Those PASSES WERE DEFLECTED BECAUSE HE didn't drop back. They were quick Shotgun Passes.

Also Jack U exposed urself for the 1001 Time!!!

Those are 2 aliases u have never used here. Now the other 1001? Sparrow, TheSMF, Oscar, Bill, Etc. Etc.

I have been off the blog for a few hours. Has Jeff Ireland identified and signed any acorns this evening?

The problem is with your name Rice and Beans you should call yourself Chief of Staff.

Rice and Beans...


Bwaaaaaaaaah Haaaahaaaaah!

You've been exposed! Yeah! We know who you are....TROLL.

Get lost, PUNK!

Now SCAT!

Is Tannehill a rookie? The last time I check he was a rookie.

Its so obvious, I'm shocked no one is talking about. Since the first time I saw Tannehill I noticed he has a low delivery, he does not through over the top he slings it low off his shoulder. Stop blaming the O Line and everyone else. I know he is the golden child, but you will all see what a bust he is. Low throwing motion!!!!!!!!!!

Tannehill doesnt have it. But you'd think someone on the Dolphins would've noticed this BEFORE the draft! His delivery will never allow him to succeed.

I don't know.

Tannehill is a 4th rd project the Dolphins took in the 1st rd. Pathetic.

Move Tannehill to WR and start Moore before Tannehill becomes another Henne.

Supporting the Dullfins is like supporting black and white TV. Forget about it.

Henne > Tannehill

I don't know.

The Dolphins are the blind leading the blind. LOL

One solution is to have some 3 step drop plays with pump fakes. Keep the defense guessing. If every time Tannehill takes a 3 step drop and starts to throw, the defense guys jump up and put their hands in the air, then fake it and go deep. He'll have all day to throw because there will be no pass rush.

For every strategy, there's a counter stratedy. Use the defensive players jumping against them. If they're jumping in the air, they're not rushing the passer.

I've never seen so much incompetence on the same team.....

DavidR

Uh yeah. Maybe you should stick to knitting and special ed.

Ba Bam!

3 Major Changes Have Taken Place Before Our Eyes:
1. Vontae and BM were traded BEFORE they left in free agency. As a result we have at least 3 picks in the top 35 and 5 in the top 96.
2. This years acorn crop was mostly dismissed by Philbin rather than moved to the top of the depth chart as in previous seasons. Looks like Anthony acorn Armstrong could be the exception.
3. Philbin has made it clear that the crappy talent on the roster is no more crappy than the talent on the street so it makes no sense to spit in these players faces.

Something from Ryan Tannehill. "If you are throwing the quick Game there's no time to move around", seems to be true.

Truly.

I wonder if Philbin and Sherman dress down Tannehill like they do to the brothers?

Always yelling at the brothers but never the others. Heck, Fasano got a raise for dropping balls.

Alright People

The best insight comes from Chad Pennington not Trent Dilfer. T-Hill could fix it. And T-Hill reinforced it at the press conference that they are doing Work. I like that T-hill even asked the Defense if he was giving anything away.

JJ Watt tipped 4 of 5 passes(No wonder the Texans didn't give a $100 mil to Mario W.) he was a Beast.

It was a Multitude of things. JJ Watts(He had a Old Jason Taylor Day, Just needed the Sack,Fumble,Return for a Td, or catch a deflection and return it for a TD)

The O-Line, J.Martin needs to do a Better Job on Short Passes. Get on his block quicker, Cut Block him, do something. Martin probably had extra practice just like T.Hill. But Overall the Line Was Solid. Even Fatboy

T-Hill, Take Chad's advice. As a Matter of Fact call him over for a Practice. Chad was a master of the Short Game. It's a Over the Top throw. But after he talks to Chad, T-hill Should talk to Dan and take the Pocket Awareness Class. He needs to learn to GLIDE in the POCKET. Side-to-Side, In-N-Out, Make Love to the Pocket. Find Ur PAssing Lanes.(Oscar look at all the old Marino tapes U will see what finding ur Passing lane is.) Dan is the #7 most Mobile QB of All-Time According to NFL.Com.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d801f9781/Top-Ten-Mobile-QBs-Dan-Marino

Again DAN HAD THE GREATEST FOOTWORK OF ALL-TIME. The Quick Release, But then Look at Dan's Short Game he goes over the Top. Marino Had that Quick Release in the Pocket but he knew where to find the opening. T-hill has a Similar Release, he just needs Pocket Awareness.

And last it's on Sherman. Sherman knows he's partly to blame for being to conservative with T-Hill(The Closeness thing) but he needs to unleash the Kid. Dashi understands that he's a Rookie and all that but the Guy knows the Playbook. Call ur Game. U can tell the Respect for Wade Phillip and this being T-hill's 1st NFL start, Sherman Dumbed down the Playbook.

Also 1 other PERSON that SHOULD GET THE BLAME FOR ALL OF THIS IS NAANEE. Dashi thinks almost all passes that were tipped or intercepted were in Naanee's Direction. Except One. AGAIN PHILBIN MUST"VE NOTICED THIS AT HALF TIME AND BENCHED HIS AS'S AFTER THE 3RD. NAANEE ONLY SAW 27 SNAPS LESS THAN HARTLINE OR ARMSTRONG.

Hartline Should Start on Sunday. WOW, Dashi can't believe he is saying that. But Naanee needs to be the Cut Wr. U know the guy left out or let him play Special Teams. But he should be in no Offensive plays.

With that Said Dashi is Still Feeling good about the Fins. 24-13 Fins!!

Lets whoop the Raiders!!

Obviously Philbin came in knowing that when you spit in the faces of your own players and they leave in free agency you get nothing.

HenneHill

Never had it; never will.
Mid-round draft pick picked in 1st round to assuage Ross & to make the fans think there is a QB of the future.
Low release point; no pocket presence; stumbleBum.

That QB ain't here yet.
In the meantime, start Matt Moore.
Hell......start Nat Moore.

I have a half-brother.

JackTheSMFPhucYuSparrowLincolnBuick,

How goes it chump?

"One solution is to have some 3 step drop plays with pump fakes. Keep the defense guessing."
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Brilliant! Tell the board please...what happens when the defense blitzes on this 3 step pump fake nonsense you are referring to.

Henne...oops...Tanne either throws high or low.

Second sign of a "vacant lot" QB.

First sign is he was a WR in college.

If Tanne can put up the kind of game in his 2nd start that Henne put up in his 2nd start then we are fiinally getting somewhere.
Henne's 2nd start was against the team that would make it to the AFC Championship game.
Tanne's is against the team that desperately wants to avoid losing to the laughingstock of the league.
Both powerful motivators.

After looking at the protection I saw no significant penetration. The #99 seems to have a Turbo Engine.

Jonathan Martin will be a great Player at his position for many years to come.

I don't know.

We need to stop talking about what we can't do and focus on what we can do:
Passes in the flat to Bush & Miller with Javorski out there blocking.
Javorski takes on the olb and Bush/Miller take on the corners.
Over and over and over.
Then we start hitting Hartline/Bess one on one.
There is no profit running between the tackles.

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