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What to think about the Dolphins, what to do with Carpenter

GLENDALE, Ariz. -- You saw the good and you saw the bad during Sunday's 24-21 overtime loss here. As I wrote in my column that appears in Monday's Miami Herald, this game had plenty of both and you can choose to view it as a failure today or as a game with promise for tomorrow.

Frankly, I'm so sick of covering a loser, I really want to believe this game is the start of something good for the future.

And so I see Ryan Tannehill's 431 yards as a big deal. This was the second most yards any rookie QB in NFL history has thrown for in a game -- behind only Cam Newton's 432 last year versus Green Bay. It also the most passing yards by a rookie on the road.

The 431 yards tied for sixth most in Miami history. Of the top eight such performances in club history, Dan Marino has the other seven and Tannehill joins that list.

It was also a breakout day for Brian Hartline and Cameron Wake and Sean Smith and others. All good.

But ...

This was a loss, folks, and this season is officially in a tailspin. So tomorrow looks good. Today looks like a heaping pile.

The Dolphins have played well enough to be 3-1 this year. They seem every bit as good as the Jets and Cardinals to whom they have lost in overtime the last two weeks. But the fact is the Dolphins lost against two teams that aren't any better than them. And this game was lost while wasting many great, great performances.

So even when guys play great, these Dolphins find a way to lose.

And if you cannot win when half a dozen players are having great days, when can you win?

Then there is this:

Mike Sherman's play-calling puzzled me in crunch time again this week. Last week the Dolphins offensive coordinator went away from the running game in the fourth quarter and they blew a lead.

This week, the Dolphins had a 21-14 lead with 3:45 to play. The team just converted a first down on two running plays. Sherman runs on first down again. Then on second down and eight from the Arizona 43 yard line he runs again, right?. It only makes sense against a defense that was blitzing right up the middle all day, right? You want to run clock, right?

Nope. Sherman called a pass.

And the Cards blitzed. And Richie Incognito missed the blitzer who had a free run at Tannehill right up the gut. And the Dolphins quarterback got hit and sacked and stripped of the ball. Former Dolphins defensive lineman Vonnie Holliday recovered at his own 43.

The Cardinals then converted the turnover into a game-tying touchdown drive in regulation. And they won in overtime.

Frustrating play-calling.

There was also the mounting problems with kicker Dan Carpenter. Last week, he missed two field goals including a possible game-winner.

This week he missed a 51-yarder that was no gimme by any means, but nonetheless a makeable kick. Carpenter, so solid before the season that Miami didn't even bring a kicker to camp to compete against him, could have turned a 13-0 lead into a 16-0 lead.

The miss meant more than three points. It was a momentum killer. It heartened the Cardinals and gave their crowd hope. It wasn't long before the Cardinals took a 14-13 lead.

So what should the Dolphins do about Carpenter now? I asked Joe Philbin if he's concerned about Carpenter now and whether a move might be necessary.

“We’ll have to take a look and see how he did," Philbin said. "When you send your field goal kicker out there, hopefully you know they’re going to make kicks. I’m not sure that’s a concern right now at this moment.”

Not concerned? Really? If not now, then when?

Does Carpenter have to help blow a couple of more games?

The trouble is the Dolphins are financially committed to Carpenter. They aren't really going to cut him at this point. Do they bring in a kicker to send him a message that he has to get his stuff together?

That might end up being another thing that an already worried kicker has to think about. Of course, it might also light the proverbial fire under Carpenter.

No easy answers. None.

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Tomorrow is another day and the Dolphins are just a little more solid than yesterday. Up tempo is the new rule. And we will get there like it or not.

You are totally right about the play calling. To try a pass when Reggie Bush was gashing through the line pretty good all day was stupid. Run the clock, punt and let your defense stop the two minute drill from deep in their territory if need be. Two games in a row Sherman pulls this. Also, WR Naanee needs to be looking for a new home tomorrow. To fumble away your one reception in four games without even being hit is just inexcusable.

when will the HC step in and stop his CO from loseing games with bad play calling

Odinseye, you are comparing three games for Hartline to two games for Marshall. Talk big after the Monday night game when Chicago plays Dallas.
Nice try, though.
Posted by: Fire Coach Spo | October 01, 2012 at 01:48 AM


Yeah, well..........I have a feeling Marshall won't make up the 241 yards he's down.

But don't fet over Marshall Ace, I'm sure by midnight tommorrow he'll have a firm grip on two categories.

Dropped passes and Hissy Fits ;)

Hartline is leading the league in reception yards(455)!

With Rookie QB Tannehill throwing to him!

YEAH!

lighten up Ron quit playing monday morning coach!there was great play calling in that game ..Look at the stats!

if sherman would have done what yall guys said he should have done and the R/B fumbled or after 3 and out the cards come back and score anyway yall would be all over him for running the ball and would say "why didn't he pass the ball , T-hill and hartline have been having a great game why were they just trying to run out the clock/" the only way they can be right with you MONDAY MORNING COACHES is if they win! So we have been having a couple bad games. the coaches put the players in the right position to win the game all game long. and the players lost the game not the coaches.. hopefully these games will be learning lessons for the players.

There was great play calling.....at times.

The late play calling by Sherman is questionable though. But I think it's more because Mando is used to seeing conservative play calling for years. Come on, how aggressive was SPorano, Henning and Daboll?

The fact is, The Cards were EXPECTING the run in that situation. So Sherman was just trying to catch them flat. It's easy to second guess now. But Sherman was going for the jugular. Had that play worked, he's a Hero and then the 3 runs could have ran a TON of time of the clock.

It sucks that Cogs execution sunk the ship. But I personally prefer and LOVE the agressive nature Sherman and Tannehill have.

So.....I think this time, I'm just going to skip playing Monday Morning Quarterback!

Armando...I beg to differ with you, it's a very easy decision with Carpenter, you leave him alone and let him work it out. Carpenter's a seasoned pro of proven ability. The last thing he neads is a dose of Miami-Herald-child-psychology.

When you have a team as young as our's, in as many areas as ours, it is just as important to circle the things that are right, that you don't want changed as
it is to point to the faults.

If you prioritise areas of needed improvement Carpenter would hardly make the list. Personally, I think you are trying to hard to sound like a coach.

A young professional pool player who had just been named "Rookie of the Year" was asked was asked "what was the biggest single thing you had to learn about playing when you turned pro?" His answer had a message for out Dolphins.

He said, "I already new how to play when I turned pro, what I had to learn was how to win".

Good luck Dolphins, great game. See you next week.

Sorry, I had to repost these:

Dashi, do you like stats?

Hartline is Leading the League in Receiving Yards(455)! He's on pace for 100 for 1820 yds-LOL!

Who woulda Thunk It?

Hartline has 25 catches. The league leader(Cruz)has 32. Hartlines is tied with Welker in catches to BTW.


Hartline is leading the league in reception yards(455)!

With Rookie QB Tannehill throwing to him!

YEAH!

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Yeah and to think all the people on here complaining about the play calling and coaching were saying it was a mistake to get rid of brandon marhs-mellow... why dont they say anything about it now? were are all the people on here that said we have the worst W/R's in the league? show your faces now?

Tannehill passed up Cutler and Weeden and got his QBR up to 66.4.

AwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwRiiiiiiiiiiiiight MIAMI! LOL!

He's 14th in yards with 1046. Thats on pace for a 4000 yard season!

Posted by: odinseye | October 01, 2012 at 01:47 AM

I'm sorry Jeffrow. I am from the old school, run it till they stop it, especially when you are executing the running plays. If would have ended up 3rd and say 5 then pass it. But on 2nd down when Reggie is doing well run it on 2nd down period. But it would have been mute if Carpy would have made that kick. Crap I am in Montana and Carpy grew up 60 miles away and I am a huge Grizzly fan and I will still cut him, I don't care if he is my brother I am Dolphins first.

oops "our" and"knew".

Yeah!

What Jeffrow said!

Good One! I don't think they're going to show though ;)

Ken...when your hope for the season is Reggie "step and a half" Bush and you'd like to kep him in the line up for next week, you might change your thinking.

I am so pissed. We could be at the top of the division right now if not for some missed FG's and some piss poor play calling in the 4th Qtr. I am not saying that we are a great team but I think we are a good team despite Ireland's poor personal decisions. If we had Polian in this last years draft and him working free agency I think we are pushing greatness. Ireland's lack of getting some deep threat recievers in free agency and a few other areas of concern cost us, but despite that idiot we are a decent team.

Did anybody think this would be a .........moment?

No way Jack, he was doing well on that drive and running the clock, despite a bad knee. No I am sorry, he was running good against a defence that was trying to stop the run at the time due the time on the clock.

I would like to perform my beautiful CREAM DANCE for you.

Please stay here and observe me. This will be a wonderful and erotic event that we will share.

And now..................The CREAM DANCE.

Odenseye...thanks for the stats on Hartline. I don't hear anybody commenting on our new coaching staff's success in developing new players. Maybe that's an article Mondo could write while he's not coaching Carpenter.

Ken, you are wrong.

1) Sherman called a pass because the passing game was the only thing working yesterday. One of those 1 yard runs by Bush or Thomas wouldn't not have made it. Problem was the blocker missing his assessment, not the call

2) 4th down, under 30 seconds to play: how in the world can u leave an opposing receiver alone in the end zone?

3) and in fact Carpenter is becoming a problem

That's your ballgame. Lots of positive things. Let's finish 4-12, get a good slot in the draft and build a contender.

AFTER THE LAST TWO WEEKS I AM CONVINCED OF TWO THINGS! 1 THE PLAYERS WANT TO WIN BADLY BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THIS STAFF IS SIMPLY PLAYING FOR .500 SEASON! THEY MADE THE CHOICE OF TANNEHILL THINKING HE WOULD NOT BE THE QB HE IS BECOMING SO THEY WOULD HAVE JUSTIFIABLE REASONS WHY THIS TEAM LOST! THIS IS WHY THEY REFUSE TO GET GOOD RECEIVERS FOR HIM TO THROW TO! JUST ONE GOOD RECEIVER TO GO WITH HARTLINE AND BESS AND THIS TEAM WINS 10 GAMES EASY!THE MANAGEMENT LISTEN TO OTHER SO CALLED EXPERTS AND WROTE THIS TEAM OFF AFTER PRESEASON! TO CONTINUE TO LOSE MEANS THE TEAM CAN CUT IT'S ROSTER OF HIGH PAYROLL AND THEN TRY TO WIN NEXT YEAR! BAD MOVE! TODAY SHERMAN KNOWING HE HAD THE LEAD AND A ROOKIE QB COULD HAVE RUN THE BALL, PUNTED AND MADE THEM DRIVE THE BALL 80 YARDS! THAT WOULD HAVE LEAD TO A WIN! WATCH THIS! CARPENTER SHOULD BE CUT! NAANEE SHOULD BE CUT TOMORROW HE SUCKS! IF THE DOLPHINS WOULD HAVE KEPT CHAD JOHNSON THEY WOULD AT LEAST HAVE A BETTER UPGRADE THAN NANEE! BUT THERE IS HOPE 1-3 IS THE SAME RECORD THE 2008 TEAM HAD AT THIS POINT WHEN THE COACHES DECIDED TO INTRODUCE SOMETHING BIG! (WILDCAT) AND THE SEASON CHANGED! THIS COULD HAPPEN AGAIN BY SIMPLY COMMITTING TO WINNING NOW AND GETTING RID OF NANEE AND CARPENTER! THE JETS ARE NOT BETTER! BUFFALO IS A WASTE OF MONEY! WITH THIS SCHEDULE WE CAN WIN NOW!

I have written here on your blog many times - I assume you read my comments - that Hartline is underrated...again, after watching him at The Ohio State University I am fully aware of what he is capable of...again. In the past I pointed out that Sparano's run first approach did little to show off ANY receiver.

I was not concerned about the departure of Marshall nor did I care if Chad Johnson had to be let go...with Hartline and Bess, you have the start of a terrific receiving unit.

So, please allow me this moment to say I told you so. It feels good. Thank you and goodnight.

PS: So how about giving some props to the guy?

Oh, and a one-liner in this blog does not count.

How's this for a dash of reality...

An author of a competitive blog ,whose name shall remain nameless, suggested we fans should not analyse anything about this year's Dolphins with out viewing it in terms of 2013, 10 draft picks with five in the first three rounds and 40 to 50 million in cap space.

Try it. It sure makes this year look better.

it was a fantastic game, even though we lost. Miami D was great, Tannehill was great, Hartline was great. Right now i choose to look at the future. One more wr that can catch the ball and not fumbling it, and we can be really good!

The fact that you said The Ohio State University makes me not give a shyt about your opinion, even though I agree that he was underrated. Your still full of yourself though.

I think people,,excuse me...immature trolltards,, were all yelling for Hartline's head during preseason. This is why trolltards change there name so when there wrong they can come back under a different name so they dont have to admit there wrong. If thats how you live thats cool but it shows you have nothing in between your legs. If you cant own up to your mistakes on an anonymous blog behind a computer screen and keyboard then I can only imagine how womanly you handle real life scenarios that dont go your way. People bash guys on here when there opinion is wrong LOL but cant man up when there opinion is wrong and when its there turn to take the heat,,this is why no one responds to trolltards or even bother reading there comments,,,most of the time that shyt is funny,,your thought process that is

Yeah Thore...also another DB that can cover...a lot of holes in the D backfield. Meaning Carroll sucks amongst another one or two. Smith and Jones are good

I simply think they are going about things the Green Bay way and are grooming Tannehilll to do what Aaron Rodgers does which is throw when and how often they want.

The Fins just happen to have a MUCh better run game but you can't become predictable and plow into the line late game and think it's always gonna amount to good things.

I may have tried one rollout with an option to run but Tannehill never really broke free all day. AZ is quick on D.

The fact that we went to a 3-0 West Coast teams place and socked em in the mouth most of the day all while having a new head coach, OC and DC tells me things are looking up. Time will tell to those naysayers.

It sure feels a hell of lot different than ALL the Sparano/Henne years to me. I actually feel a genuine sense of hope I haven't felt for a decade or more. Maybe 3 years rolls by and I'm dead wrong but it sure doesn't feel like that now.

Thanks for scrapping hard Fins!!! If ya keep fighting this hard...teams will start melting.

Cheers,

nite all!

Cincy will be another test.

Cheers,

We should have won against the Jets and Cardinals, this team can be really good looking ahead to the future.
Tannehill can become special!!!

Matt Barkley 2013!


Just kidding ;)

Wow. You people are so blind. Dilphins are going nowhere with this loser hennehill. Shoulda, coulda, woulda, but didn't. Bottom line hennehill chokes when the game is on the line. He and sherman are both junk and need to go now. Dolphins will draft a qb!

You should have asked Philbin if he's concerned about Nanee and whether a move was necessary now. That would have been an even better question.

Naanee isn't a bust. Neither are Armstrong or any other receiver on the roster not named hartline or bess (slot receivers are our 1 and 2. Seriously.) they are, in fact, LIABILITIES.

Hard to watch a team that has a bad offensive coordinator, heartless coach, idiotic gm, and clueless owner.

Dont buy tickets or merchandise. All we can do. I can go to the dolphins bengals, would normally go, but can't support the gm
Or owner.

"And the Cards blitzed. And Richie Incognito missed the blitzer who had a free run at Tannehill right up the gut. And the Dolphins quarterback got hit and sacked and stripped of the ball."

Not sure we have the whole story on this one. That lb seemed to be so fast on replay coming up the gut, even the rb missed him.

Use your brain. Do you honestly think Carpenter needs another kicker to let him know hes screwed up the last 2 games and is on the hot seat?

Stop piling on just to make your blog longer,your almost worst than Walker at afce espn. He hates the phins also and has nothing good to say almost ever

GOT to Learn to FINISH...D.Thomas needs to go to #3 RB and Move Miller to #2.

Dolphins....SUCK!

If you want to defeat their late-game middle blitzes, go into shotgun with two backs and either do quick passes or power runs off the tackle.

Don't, under any circumstances, line up under center and try a three-step-drop pass when they're gashing the A gaps with three guys. You might end up fumbling the game away.

Perhaps we now see why Texas A&M had issues holding onto leads. Some folks attested that to Tannehill. Maybe it was Sherman.

I can't dump on the play calling. But the kicker is costing us games. This is not a position where you can learn on the job. He passes at 2nd and 8. Big deal.

Carpenter let is MVP award go to his head. He is hooking the ball. 51 yards I can forgive but his game against the Jests was just bad. It shouldn't come down to field goals but when they cost the team games you need a money guy. Right now he isn't worried about paychecks. How many field goals did Vinateiri miss with NE. One and he was somewhere else the next year.

They should have run the ball and then punted to force cards to go all the way down field, however my biggest compliant and this is on the coaching would be at the end of the game on fourth and 10 with 30 seconds to go or whatever it was, why didn't Philbin use his last time out to give the defense a breather and come up with a good defensive play call, this would have been a smart move the D was tired by then, and regulation ended with us having the timeout on the board something to be looked at Joe, otherwise i think the coaches are doing pretty well, we just have to learn to win those games.

If any Dolphins "fan" actually watches the games he'll know that over the last 3-4 years Carpenter has consistently choked in the clutch and lost games. The 2nd coming of Olinda Mare -- great at first, then a quick decline. Even the two Carpenter made yesterday were barely in. Maybe that's why Imbecile Tony used to get an orgasm when Carpenter made an FG. He was surprised as the rest of us. This guy is an albatross, a game-killer.

Armando is a hater, stirring up all the other haters.

Great to see some faithful fans on this blog! I like the progress we've shown this year on the offensive side of the ball. Our Oline has played well and they are young. We do need one more solid receiver and TE, try Egnew. Hartline and Bess are solid everyone else can go. Def is solid too we do need a better corner to go with Smith and Marshall and an upgrade on Clemons hes not a playmaker! Fin for life....keeo imoroving.

maybe incognito should have played a little dirtier huh?

Armando,

The play calling when a team loses will always be questioned. The calling always depends on the defense and Tannehill has the option to change the call. I think Philbin is more worried about the secondary and he should be. The rush is applying pressure because teams are mostly passing against the Miami defense. The coverage is often soft when it really counts. Teams know they can beat the Dolphins with the pass and not the run. Smith made a nice play on his interception in the end zone but got beat badly on a route hard to the post and out. The Dolphins really should dump Naanee, he gets nervous and can not hold on to the ball even when he is not hit. The problem of Carpenter under performing is a major issue. He is missing the 45 plus field goals in the same way. It appears to be a technique mistake when he goes for a longer field goal. Last week he was hooking the ball to far to the left. This week he over compensated a bit to much and hit the right goal post for a huge miss. The bottom line is soft play when it counts by the secondary and Carpenter's missed attempts have caused both of the OT loses.

From what I seen yesterday was a team possibly going in the right direction but still has that LOSING attitude for a losing team. Only a losing team can break 3 different franchise records and STILL LOSE. What's scary is even a medicore team would have won the game yesterday. I like the gameplan but the some of the playcalling is questionable. I understand they wanted to keep Arizona off guard with a pass but you know they are a blitzing team and most of your pass plays are in the shotgun. Why don't you step back and maybe give him another second. As for the defense pass rush was excellent but the coverage fell apart again at the end against a below avg quarterback in kolb with 4 th down twice. Funny Miami has a basketball team that is the exact opposite of the football team. Tons of talent and no matter how bad they play will find a a way to win because of the winning attitude. I fell the phins played extremely well yesterday. but still find a way to lose because of the losing attitude. I think tannehill has an upside. Ver mature and tries to make adjustments to become better. You can see that when he wAs at AM adjusting from WR to QB and be pretty good at it. That is exceptional. And don't forget Marino had a better supporting cast when he was drafted. They were in the super bowl a year before with a HOF coach at the helm who produced a winning attitude. I can see an upside for hope next week knowing the phins can beat this cincy team. But it's an improved cincy team and if this team doesn't get rid of the losing attitude it's going to be another disappointing week and a1-4 record for a team who in my opinion has more talent that what the loser so called experts believe.

How about the real story. The fact that even though SEAN SMITH had 2 INTs he still is terrible!

It wasn't just the FG. They left at least 2 TDs on the field in the first half. Should have been 21-0...

Philbin, Sherman, Carpenter! Are you guys serious! Who needs to go is Naanee! That guy IS a huge bust. He can't take a step without dropping whatever is in his hands!

Yesterday was historic. This franchise went from a team that wanted to believe, to a teams that's BEGINNING to Believe.

Next week the proof will be in the pudding!

Tomorrow has arrived. The new winning chapter begins Sunday in Cincy!

IMHO, yesterday's loss all comes down to one main theme: a general lack of focus, which leads to not executing when it matters most. A team that knows HOW TO WIN is comprised of players who make plays for the duration of the game, especially AT CRUNCH TIME. For example: missing a FG one can routinely make in practice, fumbling a caught pass on your own, missing a crucial block on the O-line which leads to a sack/strip/fumble recovery, allowing a blitzing defender to tee up on your QB on 3rd down which leads to a tipped pass/INT, not being able to pressure the QB when it matters most, permitting a 3rd and 18 AND a 4th and 10 pass from the 15 YD-line for a TD on your opponent's FINAL DRIVE...Folks, that is lack of focus!!! As long as these players fail to overcome their fear/nervousness/anxiety in these adverse conditions, this will be the unfortunate result week in and week out...

No one thought Miami would make the playoffs before the season started...we only wanted improvement from week to week. We are getting that...and actually with the losses we get a higher pick....so swallow the pride, take the lumps and get better for next year when we SHOULD make the playoffs. Pending a good draft and a some key WR/CB additions in free agency.

Has PROGRESSIVELY Declined since his rookie season. Time to at least work out some new kickers.

This was such a heart-breaking loss on so many levels!

Few things, besides the many career days for so many players, I just can't believe how good J. Lane is!! What a find for this team.

As far as the WR position goes, I think it is time to activate Richard Mathews and Marlon Moore. We need to see what these guys have to offer.

With you, Armando. Yesterday was the finest 1st half of Football I have seen the Miami Dolphins play in the last 20 years. And from then on, the worst 2nd half. Where this is going it's anybodys guess.

Salguero's a tool. First of all, everyone and their mother who hates football knew Miami would not be a playoff team this year. I have no problem with the losses because the team IS improveing - it's as plain as the nose on your face - and will now be drafting a little higher this spring. Ask yourselves this: "Would you rather be a Jets fan right now, or a Miami fan?" Sure, the Jets are 2-2 and Miami is 1-3, but come on... Where would you rather be?

Secondly, Salguero's questioning Philbin for saying that he's not concerned about Carpenter. What does he expect him to say? Have you EVER heard a coach call out a player moments after a game like that? The coach ALWAYS stands by his players. I have worked over 70 NFL Post-game press conferences in the last 4 years and have yet to hear a coach answer a question like Salguero's with an affirmative. Yesterday Rex Ryan was asked if it's time to replace Sanchez. What do you think his answer was?''


And Salguero's tired of "covering a losing team?" Wahhhhh... He's PAID to watch. What about the poor saps who've been giving the Dolphins thousands of dollars a year in tickets, merch and food & beverage money every season? Think they're tired, Armando?

He's a Jackass!

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