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What to think about the Dolphins, what to do with Carpenter

GLENDALE, Ariz. -- You saw the good and you saw the bad during Sunday's 24-21 overtime loss here. As I wrote in my column that appears in Monday's Miami Herald, this game had plenty of both and you can choose to view it as a failure today or as a game with promise for tomorrow.

Frankly, I'm so sick of covering a loser, I really want to believe this game is the start of something good for the future.

And so I see Ryan Tannehill's 431 yards as a big deal. This was the second most yards any rookie QB in NFL history has thrown for in a game -- behind only Cam Newton's 432 last year versus Green Bay. It also the most passing yards by a rookie on the road.

The 431 yards tied for sixth most in Miami history. Of the top eight such performances in club history, Dan Marino has the other seven and Tannehill joins that list.

It was also a breakout day for Brian Hartline and Cameron Wake and Sean Smith and others. All good.

But ...

This was a loss, folks, and this season is officially in a tailspin. So tomorrow looks good. Today looks like a heaping pile.

The Dolphins have played well enough to be 3-1 this year. They seem every bit as good as the Jets and Cardinals to whom they have lost in overtime the last two weeks. But the fact is the Dolphins lost against two teams that aren't any better than them. And this game was lost while wasting many great, great performances.

So even when guys play great, these Dolphins find a way to lose.

And if you cannot win when half a dozen players are having great days, when can you win?

Then there is this:

Mike Sherman's play-calling puzzled me in crunch time again this week. Last week the Dolphins offensive coordinator went away from the running game in the fourth quarter and they blew a lead.

This week, the Dolphins had a 21-14 lead with 3:45 to play. The team just converted a first down on two running plays. Sherman runs on first down again. Then on second down and eight from the Arizona 43 yard line he runs again, right?. It only makes sense against a defense that was blitzing right up the middle all day, right? You want to run clock, right?

Nope. Sherman called a pass.

And the Cards blitzed. And Richie Incognito missed the blitzer who had a free run at Tannehill right up the gut. And the Dolphins quarterback got hit and sacked and stripped of the ball. Former Dolphins defensive lineman Vonnie Holliday recovered at his own 43.

The Cardinals then converted the turnover into a game-tying touchdown drive in regulation. And they won in overtime.

Frustrating play-calling.

There was also the mounting problems with kicker Dan Carpenter. Last week, he missed two field goals including a possible game-winner.

This week he missed a 51-yarder that was no gimme by any means, but nonetheless a makeable kick. Carpenter, so solid before the season that Miami didn't even bring a kicker to camp to compete against him, could have turned a 13-0 lead into a 16-0 lead.

The miss meant more than three points. It was a momentum killer. It heartened the Cardinals and gave their crowd hope. It wasn't long before the Cardinals took a 14-13 lead.

So what should the Dolphins do about Carpenter now? I asked Joe Philbin if he's concerned about Carpenter now and whether a move might be necessary.

“We’ll have to take a look and see how he did," Philbin said. "When you send your field goal kicker out there, hopefully you know they’re going to make kicks. I’m not sure that’s a concern right now at this moment.”

Not concerned? Really? If not now, then when?

Does Carpenter have to help blow a couple of more games?

The trouble is the Dolphins are financially committed to Carpenter. They aren't really going to cut him at this point. Do they bring in a kicker to send him a message that he has to get his stuff together?

That might end up being another thing that an already worried kicker has to think about. Of course, it might also light the proverbial fire under Carpenter.

No easy answers. None.

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Anyone miss Sparano?

He offense STUNK up the Meadowlands yesterday...Rex was PISSED!

I'm so glad that pizza eating, fist pumping a-hole is gone!

DC,

Havent we been thru this thing already where Armando verified I dont hide under troll names? Havent you noticed Ive been civil with you thus far even when tempted to regress into the childish fighting ways?

God bless you man, is all I can say.

Clock killing means run the ball for the Phins at this point. A passing play against a desperately blitzing D is too risky. Give our pass offense a couple of years and we might be there, but right now, nope. Play to your teams strengths and keep the clock moving.

They played a good game, just need the breaks to go their way and maybe re-evaluate their defensive schemes when leading at the end/2-minute. That is the only time that teams seem to gain yardage, conditioning issue, soft coverage, idk? Obviously Carp hasn't been getting the job done, though he has been good previously. Maybe just a funk, either way he'll be there for the year (just paid him). Honestly though, Dolphins look like the 2nd best team in the east and possibly the only competition to the Pats. Too bad the record doesn't reflect that. Only 1.5 back though, 1-3 sucks, but everyone else 2-2. On a good note, wow do the Jets suck.

Craig brings up a good point. What WAS the deal on that 4th-down play. We didn't rush the house, I think we rushed 3-4 (that might be second-guessed). BUT, that means we had 7-8 back. They had maybe 4 receivers come out. That's 2 on each (one up, one back, generally). LBs were probably manning the middle, so the CBs shouldn't have needed to worry about slants inside. Why WAS Smith trailing so far behind the receiver there? Not like you can get beat that bad in so little room, and he knows the deal (4th down, make a play, game over).

I'd love a breakdown of that play and analysis to find out where we went wrong (and who messed up). Just to fix it for the future.

One other comment....

Sounds like NONE of us like Naanee. But wouldn;t Joe Philbin know better than ANY of us whether this guy is better than Moore and Matthews. If they had shown more and shown that they could do something that Naanee can't, don't you think he'd be playing? I thought Armstrong could help but he's been horrible so far. I trust Philbin and Sherman to make these decisions and while we may not like it, it's clear that the best guys are going to play. We don't have to like it but it's a fact.

Wonder why Sherman and Tannehill blew so many fourth quarter leads at Texas A&M? It's carried over here. What killed the Dolphins is not trying to bring it in closer for field goals against the Jets and yesterday. Both games, Carpenters kicks would have been good from 3 yards closer. Instead, in both games, we throw instead of run to get a closer field goal. But Armando hit the nail on the head. Jets and Cards are not any beter than the Dolphins. What's sad, is we could have been 8-1 when looking out at the schedule if we had a veteran head coach.

YG, now you're confusing me. You said a troll stole your name about complaining about the God post. So when I responded, I didn't know if it was you (the real YG), or the troll (who stole your name). That's why I said what I did in response (not saying you were trolling, saying the person using your name might or might not have been the real YG).

I have no problem with anything you said today (even the God response which you said was a troll taking your name). I'm too happy to let anyone bring me down.

It was another loss but I felt as if I saw what I needed in a sense from our Rookie QB. I've been reading on this blog for a couple of weeks now about how Tannehill (Hennehill) sucked and his WR corp subpar to below average wasn't the real story or book on this kid (which I believe it is) my my how tunes have changed! That was Patrick Peterson out there covering Hartline on alot of those receptions and he had tight coverage on more than one occasion were Tannehill tossed some ropes into some tight windows and when he needed to put a little more air under it throwing with touch but above all else he showed good accuracy which is something we haven't seen at QB in Miami for sometime.

It had been a few Years since I saw a Dolphins WR catching a pass about 40 Yards downfield in stride. I see Mando is questioning the play calling at the end but for the most part the Cards held the run game in check and we were playing for the win. I've watched the replay of the fumble at least 20 times already and wonder about a couple of things.

1) Cards LB Darryl Washington was selling out on the blitz so hard he appeared almost across the line of scrimmage and before you drop it on Incognito's head you wonder what OL QB Pouncey was thinking with the LB practically in his grill before the play.

2) The other school of thought I've read is how J.Lane needed to make that read but in all honesty he didn't have a shot on the play. Tannehill hadn't finished taking his 2nd step before the LB drilled him that was the quickest bang bang play on a blitz I've seen in a looooooong time, if you put a stop watch to it I don't believe you would tick a second of the clock.

3) Given all of that I don't see how Tannehill gets that hand off to one of the backs in time either without it becoming a turn over.

It happens and won't second guess a team being aggressive looking for the win in that situation. The real story and I've been openly saying it here is Carpenter whose been missing alot of kicks since the Pre-Season and it has carried over. All of the misses if you go back and look at them have been to the right, he's kicking alot of knuckle balls out there that are hooking including the ones he's made. He makes 2 out of his last 3 misses and were 3-1 with everybody declaring Tannehill, Sherman and company a resounding success!

Carpenter is obviously a concern but you can't blame management for that. Carpenter was an extremely solid kicker up until last week & now is in some kind of funk. Unfortunately that happens to kicker. I remember when it happened to Olindo Mare.

However what is clearly on Ireland is the lack of a 3rd & 4th WR & the lack of pass catching TE who can operate in the middle of the field. There's no denying that Fasano has been a good player for us but he does not possess the athleticism to break a tackle & score TD's.

The more I think about Tannehill's performance yesterday the more I wonder how he was able to do that with the lack of playmakers. Can anyone remember the last time we had two WR's go for over 100 yards??? Let alone a WR go over 200 yards??? And just imagine what this offense would look like if Ireland got either a legitimate WR or TE in FA or in the draft????

I do think the Coaches know the best. HOWEVER, the 2 plays that were INT vs. Houston, were 2 passes to Naanee. Then he's been a ghost last 2 weeks. This week, he fumbles at the worst possible time and turns momentum the other way.

I'm not asking who has shown the most to play. I'm saying, in the games, who has been the biggest LIABILITY. That's what I'm questioning the Coaches about. Obviously, this guy carries some bad juju, or else why do bad things always seem to happen when he's around? Not everything is right 100% of the time. YG said it, maybe it's not the best thing to play the best players (from practice) in the games 100% of the time. This may be the exception. Naanee shouldn't be on the field (I'm not saying who should, I'm just saying who shouldn't).

DC,

No troll stole my name today, youre confused. The troll used a troll name and was mocking you. Everything under YG today is me.

You seem to have attracted a troll after the hate God comments. Go back scroll from where youi first made the hate God comments forward. Cant believe you missed it. He posted to you several times and wasnt using my screen name.

Oh, then I'm mistaken YG, my bad. In my excited state, I missed it. Shows how much I care about trolls.

DC,

Here's the troll's1st comment to you right after making the hate God post:

DC Dolfan--

I enjoyed our steambath together. Let's go out for cheesecake tonight in Georgetown.
Posted by: Mr. Be Bo Ba | October 01, 2012 at 10:24 AM

He posted several times to you there after. I cant believe you saw none of them. LOL

OH, THAT troll. yeah, I saw it, thought he posted before the God comment though. Either way, it was a meaningless post. In one ear, out the other. That's why I forgot.

"This was a loss, folks, and this season is officially in a tailspin. So tomorrow looks good. Today looks like a heaping pile."

Mando,

The record is EXACTLY what I expected but the play of this team which should be 3-1 has been a surprise.
A loss is still a loss BUT this coaching staff has done miracles compared to last season's start. That can't be overstated.

As for Tannehill I'm sure there will be people who band on him for the turnovers. Bear in mind that both of Tannehill's INT's were not b/c of bad throws. The first was b/c Hartline slipped on his route & the second was caused by a big hit. The kid has a gun & is FAR ahead of where the 'experts' expecting him to be after four games.

"Frankly, I'm so sick of covering a loser, I really want to believe this game is the start of something good for the future."


Damn Armando, tell them you mad son!!! lol. We should have won that game for sure.

WHRBs,

It's only a matter of time before we hear, 'it's Ireland's fault because they brought Carpenter in as a FA'. Everything's Ireland's fault, don't ya know!

I agree on the TE, but isn't this what we were supposed to see in Egnew this year? So what's the deal with this kid? Was Philbin not onside with the pick? Is he too dumb to understand an NFL playbook? Is he lazy, with an attitude? Is he not working hard enough to get on the field? Is he just not a good enough blocker to play. It's puzzling to me, how Clay see little or no time and Egnew isn't even active for a game. I trust Philbin to be right on this stuff, just puzzling.

I'll also add, I was one of many who wanted this team to invest in Zach Miller when he was available in FA and I see now that it would have been the wrong move. We're not all as smart as we think we are sometimes.

fin4life,

The issue for me on that play was if they KNEW the defense was pressuring, why not go into shotgun instead of a short 3-step drop. If we were in shotgun, Tannehill would of had time to get rid of it, or brace for the impact. That's what the Cards did to give Kolb more time, not sure why we didn't do the same. Either way, it happens. Good play on their part.

DC,

LOL @ 11:09 AM!

Future is bright is 100% right, this team was not going to playoffs this year, as long as they play good hard fast football and get the chemistry down with each other and get some good drafts this team is going to be very tough in the upcoming years, been a fan for 40 plus years,we are finally building a superbowl team not just a playoff team so just be patiant and let them finish a great work in progress. Peace

Sometimes shyte just happens and have nothing to do with play calling. I've seen on many occassions where even top 5 elite qb are hit while throwing to deliver a pick.

Though ending with a pick, that play is a non-issue with me. Sometimes you just gotta chalk plays like that up to "shyte sometimes happens. Same with the Hartline slip and pick. I've seen that happen with a top 5 elite qb before and Im sure many of you have too.

Starks
Smith
Hartline
Bush
Long

Hmmm a few of these guys wont be back in '13. Free Agents....

yep the problem was the 2 step drop as I identified for you yesterday within seconds of the play

Carpenter is obviously a concern but you can't blame management for that. Carpenter was an extremely solid kicker up until last week & now is in some kind of funk. Unfortunately that happens to kicker. I remember when it happened to Olindo Mare.


We Have RB's | October 01, 2012 at 11:02 AM

If you go back to the very 1st Pre-Season game against Tampa you will notice that Carpenter was having trouble hooking kicks. In that game all the way back in the beginning of August he was missing from inside 40 Yards. I chalked it up then to rust but it has carried over and now obviously in his head. Funny thing is it all seems mechanical on his part because he's hooking knuckle balls to the right.

By far the most inexcusable thing I saw happen yesterday was the Naanee fumble. There was no contact, the bozo couldnt get out of the way of his own 2 feet.

Speaking of Starks, he missed a sack yesterday that turned into a huge play for Kolb. Starks amkes that play and I think we stop that 1st scoring drive.

Seems after that play the Cards offense began to come to life.

Cut Nannee finally!! activate Rishard Marshall kid will step up

I can't stand the this team was never going to the playoffs this year talk. The Giants have won two superbowls with 9-7 records. After 1-15 we made the playoffs the very next year 11-5. Anything can happen. Play to win. as jimmy says who knows if we are able to keep any of those free agents next year. I'm not saying we're not rebuilding but I'm also not one to discount the importance of winning every week. Not at all happy about losing to the jets especially after how bad they played this week.

fin4life,

The issue for me on that play was if they KNEW the defense was pressuring, why not go into shotgun instead of a short 3-step drop. If we were in shotgun, Tannehill would of had time to get rid of it, or brace for the impact. That's what the Cards did to give Kolb more time, not sure why we didn't do the same. Either way, it happens. Good play on their part.

DC Dolfan | October 01, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Your right! Tannehill has the ability to audible the play, blocking scheme ect... but Pouncey also has the ability to call it out on the line maybe should have taken a T.O. there. I will say that Cards LB Washington is blazing fast, their unit as a whole really. They pulled that stunt from the Outside on Vick just a week earlier.

YG, he looked like a newborn giraffe who couldn't get his balance. UNTOUCHED! Just incredible to me. Not sure how he wasn't lambasted after that play on the sidelines (would have loved to hear what Sherman thought of that).

By the way, anyone else see Philbin cursing up a storm on the sideline (a couple of bad play calls by the refs, then once when Tannehill called a timeout). The guy expects perfection. EVEN from his rookie QB. I like that. Set the standards high, then show the team how to meet his expectations. Great leader IMHO!

Nannee being cut is a must, guy is garbage. Rather have a rookie learning than him fumbling because he can't believe he got open for a pass.

if the secondary played as well as the front seven on defense, we would be 3-1 ....

I know this is going to sound NUTS to some of you but I'm actually proud of this team & our coaching staff. They have come miles from where they were in the pre-season. Guys like Bess, Hartline, Starks, Soliai, Bush, Jones, Martin, Misi, & Wake have been outstanding & we finally found a QB who has more talent that Sanchez & Fitzpatrick combined. The days of Henne are gone & the future looks brighter than it has in years.

This team is not nearly as far away as I thought when this season started against the Texans. Unfortunately some of our best players like Starks, Bush, Hartline, & Long will all be FA's after this year. Not sure about who will be our GM next year so I'm not sure where that leaves these guys who have all stepped up their games over the last two weeks.

"By far the most inexcusable thing I saw happen yesterday was the Naanee fumble. There was no contact, the bozo couldnt get out of the way of his own 2 feet."

YG,

Absolutely & the week before I think we lost that game b/c of Armstrong which is why I'm guessing he didn't see the field yesterday.

Yesterday Tannehill removed the Pampers and started wearing big boy underpants!

"Nannee being cut is a must, guy is garbage. Rather have a rookie learning than him fumbling because he can't believe he got open for a pass."

Darkoak,

Agreed.

B33,

I guess it's really up to you how you want to play this year....you can expect a win every week and be disappointed and beat up when things don't work out or you can the approach, as I have, that it's a rebuild year and we're looking for progress from our young QB and who wants to be here next year. Not being smart. I just think for your own sanity the second approach is a much better approach to take. I'm rally excited to see what this kid can do with a star WR and TE on the team and I truly believe that's what we'll have next year. Delighted and shocked at what Bess and Hartline are doing but they are playing out of the roles they should be playing. It's not realistic to expect Hartline to have games anywhere close ot this every week, just as it's not realistic to expect Bush to run for 175 yards every week.

YG ignore the troll
We hardly ever agree on things but as of late you've been making great sense. I have to apologize cuz it seems I may have been reading and believing your imposters.

YG, I would love if you put the big boi in my a** later tonight like you did yesterday.

Didn't Henne throw for a bunch of yards? And how did that turn out? Didn't we win with Penny who probably never threw for over 200 yds. TD/INT ratio matters, 3rd down percentage matters, scoring in the red zone matters. They are deficient in what matters.

WHRB,

Glad you mentioned that. Actually both Naanee and Arstrong were in the game when Naanee fumbled. I clearly saw #87(Armstrong) in the picture on the field.

When I saw Armstrong in the game on the replay, I wondered why? Im not sure if we had 3 or 4 wr's in at that time, but I definitely saw Armstrong(#87) in the game on the Naanee fumble play. Still Armstrong had zero receptions and I dont remember him being targeted even once by T-hill.

If Tannehill continues to improve, if we re-sign our own guys without breaking the bank, if we make a couple of important FA signing, & if we have a very solid draft with 3 or 4 hits I believe Philbin can have this team finishing with a winning record next year.

WHRBs @ 11:25am,

Totally agree with your point.

I was thinking about this last night and I'll throw it out there. If there was a way to get a WR from a team like let's say NO, or another team that is really struggling, would you give up a second pick for him? Let's use Marques Colston, as an example (doesn't have to be him). Would you use our second right pick on a guy like this (assuming the contract isn't crazy) to continue Tannehill's development and give him more time to build rapport with one of these guys going forward?

Is it better to have a guy he can work with now, rather draft a guy in the second round next year? Wouldn't this also save guys like Bess and Hartlien from getting burned out this year. No way they can keep going at the pace they are going without getting hurt. That's just my feeling. Defence pretty much knows it's going to one of these guys or Fasano.

YG makes sense!? This is the same guy who posted Anthony Armstrong made the Pro Bowl one time. Yea YG is really sensible..

Craig, I love Sean Smith. No, he is not madison/Surtain (who ar ethe best Dolphins corners I ever saw but he's a keeper and getting better every year. Glad Ireland didn't listen to all the bashing he got from the droids out here. Liked him from day 1 and thought Sparano was a noodle for benching him a few years back. I thought the job he did on Fitz was pretty special. 63 yards/TD. Take that anyday. It was jake the Snake roberts illegitimate son that broke our backs.

And for the record, I don't blame Ireland/Philbin for bailing on Vontae. This clown was going into a contract year and shows up as the 3rd best corner while SS shows up ready for business. Better to corral a premier pick for a guy who is so unreliable.

I do think the Coaches know the best. HOWEVER, the 2 plays that were INT vs. Houston, were 2 passes to Naanee. Then he's been a ghost last 2 weeks. This week, he fumbles at the worst possible time and turns momentum the other way.

I feel the same way and have been wondering since the alligator arm PreSeason play in Dallas why this player was still on the team, period!! Luckily for him Sean Smith makes a beautiful Int. on the very next play before the blown coverage leaves Hartline wide open on that crossing route which Tannehill hits for that 80 yarder. I will however tell you that if the rule states you must maintain control while making a Football move with the ball then I believe that an incomplete pass. In last nights game Manning had a very similar play at then end with Barden which was called incomplete.

DC Dolfan | October 01, 2012 at 11:05 AM

Naanee was so shocked that he actually caught a ball that he dropped it immediately like a hot potato.

"It's only a matter of time before we hear, 'it's Ireland's fault because they brought Carpenter in as a FA'."
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And it was only a matter of time before you predictably say the same thing you say every darn day. Don't you EVER tire of being so repetitive?

"Everything's Ireland's fault, don't ya know!"
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In fact, this roster IS Ireland's fault. Who else's fault is it? Everybody but Ireland's? You can't be as dumb as you sound!

"I agree on the TE, but isn't this what we were supposed to see in Egnew this year? So what's the deal with this kid? Was Philbin not onside with the pick? Is he too dumb to understand an NFL playbook? Is he lazy, with an attitude? Is he not working hard enough to get on the field? Is he just not a good enough blocker to play. It's puzzling to me, how Clay see little or no time and Egnew isn't even active for a game. I trust Philbin to be right on this stuff, just puzzling."
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Now I do know you are as dumb as you sound! Ireland selected Clay & dumb as rock Egnew. Wanna know why 1 is inactive & the other rarely plays?

It's because they both suck! Will you EVER stop being a HOMER & hold Ballboy responsible for his utterly pathetic track record in Player acquisition in Miami?

Posted by: Craig M | October 01, 2012 at 11:10 AM

I'm not beaten up about yesterday. There's a lot to be happy about but my point was to actually be happier that we lost than if we had won the game becuz of the idea that they are a playoff team anyways so they should just lose to draft higher and rebuild is total BS

Clue, YOU have no clue. Carpenter is in a slump but he's a good kicker. Here are his percentages for the last 4 years. Career he is 84%, 89%, 73%, 85%. From 50+ he's 8-16. He's had a 60 yarder last year, and a 58 yarder 2 years ago. From 40-49 he's 40-55. That's a good kicker. Soooooo get a clue. He's in a slump.

*Not a playoff team I meant

"Glad you mentioned that. Actually both Naanee and Arstrong were in the game when Naanee fumbled. I clearly saw #87(Armstrong) in the picture on the field.

When I saw Armstrong in the game on the replay, I wondered why? Im not sure if we had 3 or 4 wr's in at that time, but I definitely saw Armstrong(#87) in the game on the Naanee fumble play. Still Armstrong had zero receptions and I dont remember him being targeted even once by T-hill."

YG,

I didn't see Armstrong in the game but I believe you. Shame on Ireland for not finding a WR or a TE in either FA or the draft. I'm sorry but it's unacceptable. 1-3 is CLEARLY on him not Philbin or the coaching staff.

Put it another way, assuming contracts and age aren't too crazy, would you trade for a guy like Moore in NO, assuming of course he's available for let's say a 4th or a 5th? Just throwing out idea. NO is going NOWHERE this year and maybe they'd be interested in stockpiling picks.

Whay were the laces out on the carpenter kick? Was the holder trying to compensate for the 2 pulled kicks of last week? If the laces were properly in then the kick would have hooked through the uprights. Fact is we pay carpenter to kick a friggin ball, that's it. This is crazy! Why was sean smith playing with concern to the middle on the tying TD? He had safty help to the middle! He should have been playing the sideline pass the whole time. Beyond frustrating.

Guys, just think about it for a minute. Would you REALLY want to be a Pats fan right now? Great, looks like you'll win the division again this year. But everyone sees the cracks forming, this time in the OFFENSE. Brady, while still the Master, MIGHT be showing his age some. Defenses are learning how he cracks under pressure. And once he's gone in a few years, THEN WHAT?

Or how about the Bills? ALL THOSE (supposed) upgrades on defense. They were up yesterday big. In a matter of minutes, it was a TOTAL meltdown. They didn't even show up opening day. Fitzpatrick is still only ever gonna get them to 8 wins TOPS! Where's the hope for the future?

And the lowly Jets? They all need parachutes because that bird's going down. And that's their supposed franchise QB who's about to be downgraded for Tebow at some point. Without Revis, they're pedestrian. Even with him their defense lost a couple of steps. How much longer can Scott play?

Out of every team in the AFC East, there's only one showing hope for the future. That's the Miami Dolphins. We're in a good place.

CraigM @ 11:33 AM,

If Hartline can continue the same roll he's been on lately for the entire season. There's no need to use a 2nd rd pick on a reciever via draft or trade. It would mean we only need a reliable 3rd wr behind Hartline/Bess.

Im so hoping that guy can emerge from the present wr roster within the next couple games. Im hoping that guy will be Anthony Armstrong because we've all lost hope in Naanee.

mike, Slump?? Hes an NFL kicker if hes not performing well, Cut HIM! His job is to make kick and the fact is he cost us 2 games. How many more games is he allowed to cost us before its not considered a slump 3, 4 ,5??? Slump my a**, Kickers in the NFL arent allowed to go in slumps.

Question should we get a 1st rd Wr? A free agent Wr? Or a 2nd and a 3rd round Wr?

Dashi picks the 3rd round.

That way we can get a LB in the 1st, a FS and a CB in the 2nd, and 2 Wr's in the 3rd. Then waste the other 5+ picks on BPA. Draft a Kicker with the 6th from vontae. That way u have a cb and a kicker for grandma's boy!

Again, Dashi knows Ireland isn't incompetent. He just plays it safe. He uses all his picks and tries to stockpile picks for the future. Now should he hit on more players ? YES!

But with more chances and more experience. Plus better input from the coaches! Ireland should do a better job. Again Dashi doesn't see us going linemen early in the near future! U know the next 3-4 years. Doesn't mean we should get a couple with 4th rd and 5th rd picks over the next couple of seasons.

We all know the holes on this team. Just trust Ireland won't trade the house or spend it on a high priced free agent.

One things for sure we all know if Ireland stays as GM he won't trade picks. We will use our top 5 picks next year on players. We will get 5 more rookies at least. Add a acorn or 2. That's 7 rookies on top of the good players on this team. If 2 or 3 are Impact players. We will be competing with the top teams In the NFL consistently.

Again, Matt Ryan wouldn't have helped.

It's amazing how we watch the same things, but don't see the same things. I have would bet almost anything that if we had VONTAE and Marshall we'd be 3-1

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