Three quarterback charts to chew on

Three quarterbacks. All making the first nine NFL starts. That's what you'll find below.

It is the first nine NFL career starts for Dan Marino, Chad Henne and Ryan Tannehill. In other words, you have the start of a Hall of Fame career, the start of a franchise quarterback bust career, and a hopeful future franchise quarterback career.

What do the charts below tell you?

I'm not going to editorialize today. I don't want to color the converation or lead in any direction. It's up to you to do that.

I'm going to let you make your own judgments and pour them into the comments section.

This is how it breaks down:

Dan Marino:

Date                Opp.           A      C     Y     Per.      TD  INT   W-L    Score

10-9-1983      Buffalo         29    19      322    65.5      3    2     L     38-35

10-16-1983    Jets              30     17     225    56.7     3     0     W    32-14

10-23-1983     Baltimore    18     11     157     61.1     2     0     W    21-7

10-30-1983    LA Rams       38     25      271    65.8     2     1     W    30-14

11-6-1983      S.F.             29     15      194    51.7     2     0     W   20-17

11-13-1983    N.E.             37     14      141    37.8     0    1      L   17-6

11-20-1983     Baltimore    21     14      240    66.7     1    0     W   37-0

11-28-1983   Cincinnati     28     18       217    62.1     3   0     W   38-14

12-4-1983    Houston        26      17       195    65.4    1    1     W   24-17

Marino 9-game totals:     256    150     1,962   58.6   17   5      7-2

Chad Henne:

Date             Opp.           A      C     Y     Per.      TD  INT   W-L    Score

10-4-2009       Buffalo     22   14     115   63.6      1     0      W     38-10

10-12-2009     Jets          26    20    241   77.0     2     0      W     31-27

10-25-2009     N.O.         36    18    211   50.0     0     2      L      46-34

11-1-2009       Jets          21    12    112   57.1    1     0      W     30-25

11-8-2009       N.E.         34     19    219   55.9    0     0      L      27-17

11-15-2009     Tampa      31     17   175    54.8    1     1      W     25-23

11-19-2009     Carolina    29     17   172    58.6    1     0     W     24-17

11-29-2009     Buffalo      31    17    175    53.1    1    3      L     31-14

12-6-2009       N.E           52    29    335    55.8     2   1      W    22-21

Henne 9-game totals:        282   163  1,755 57.8     9   6         6-3

Ryan Tannehill

Date              Opp.         A      C      Y        %        TD   INT   W-L    Score

9-9-2012      Houston      36    20     219    55.6     0      3      L       30-10

9-16-2012     Oakland      30   18     200    60.0     1     0       W      35-13

9-23-2012    Jets             36   16    196     44.4      0     1       L       23-20

9-30-2012    Arizona        41   26    431     63.4      1     2       L       24-21

10-7-2012    Cincinnati    26   17    223     59.3      0      0      W      17-13

10-14-2012   St. Louis     29    21   185     72.4      2      0     W       17-14

10-28-2012   Jets            5     2      18      40.0     0       0     W       30-9

11-4-2012  Indianapolis  38   2      290      57.8     1       0      L      23-20

11-11-2012 Tennessee    39   23      217    58.9     0      3      L       37-3

Tannehill 9-game totals:   280  165  1,979   58.9    5      9          4-5

 

 

Comments

[KingShula]

Huizinga isnt stupid he did all this with the idea of selling the team.Ross the new buyer now has to contend with an empty stadium on sundays,but I dont think he is stupid either he knew what he was buying.

[KingShula]

Thus far the only good owner the Fins have had they have had three was Joe Robbie.

[Phins78]

Aloco again, for the one billionth time, WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT!? Jeez man just because you're a Jets fan doesn't mean you have to be ignorant. How in the hell did the Dolphins force Parcells out? "Should have let him start what he finished"!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ARE YOU ON CRACK!!!???? The guy quit and ran away with our money ALL ON HIS OWN BEFORE HE FINISHED THE JOB! No one forced him out and you know that! Why do you write this garbage!?

[ALoco]

ONE LAST THING, ROSS KNEW WHY TUNA WAS HIRED ,HE SUPPORTED THAT,HE WAS 45 % OWNER OF THE FINS @ THAT TIME,,,,,,,,,,,,

LIFE IS SHORT......

[Phins78]

1001 excuses for why Tannehill stinks. LOL

Posted by: Phinmanski | November 12, 2012 at 05:08 PM

Define troll? They do a good job defining themselves don't they? Just read that post, makes no sense, has no reason or logic, and was only posted to get a rise out of people. How pathetic.

[KingShula]

I think Danny Thomas was a partial owner but he sold out to Robbie.Robbie is the one whose ownership hired Shula and drafted Marino which were both forced or persuaded into early retirement by Huizinga.

[tnhillbilly]

defense and offensive line sucked, titans ranked 30th in run defense and dolphins ranked 7th, total reversal, again no defensive backfield for the dolphins, how many 3rd and 20s can they give up. Time to start rebuilding, no long, no dansby, no bush, they have to be worth atleast a 3rd round pick. create some cap space, more draft picks, send ireland packing, and 2 years super bowl bound. the rest of the division is on the down hill side except the dolphins, it is now or never.

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

Dont get comparing Marino, Henne, Tannehill 1st 9 starts period. Here's why:

Marino

Didnt get his first start until late in his 1st season. He came un under an well proven and established system, on a team coming off a sb appearance, and under the tutor of perhaps one of the greatest backup qb's to ever play the game.

Not to mention the winniest hc of all time, plus Diper and Clayton were already on the team.

Chad Henne

Dont even get me started. Henne didnt start his first game until game 3-4 of his 2nd season. At least one of his wins should be given to Ted Ginn. Remember the 2 kockoff tds agaunst the Jets?

Plus Henne had a deep threat. How many inaccurate deep throws did we see Henne over or underthrow to Ginn. How many times was Henne criticized for lack of deep touch?

Tannehill

Only qb in Fins history to start day 1. Doesnt have Duper/Clayton, not even Ted Ginn. He already has more deep td passes than Henne.

Henne started his 2nd season on a team 1 season shy of being afc east champs and playoffs. Tannehill starts for a team that was 6-10 and used that 8th overall puck to draft him.

Armando, where is the comparison? Boy you must be really bored today son.

[ALoco]

PHINS...I KNOW YOU R FROM FL ..BUT YOU CAN FORCE OUT ,WITHOUT FORCING THEM OUT......THE SAME WAY KRAFT DID IN BOSTON ,BUT THIS TIME ,TUNA MADE SURE HE'S GETTING PAID FROM THESE OWNERS WHO MAKES BILLION ,NOT 14 MILLION..........CAPACHE,.

[jeff m]

Mike Shermans play calling sucks monkey balls. It looks exactly like Dan Hennings from last year give us all a break here.

[Toddler13]

Nice setup.
Most knee jerk fans forget Marino stepped onto a team that had been to a SuperBowl the year prior. Give a man time, and tools, and he can do well. Look at Henne's quick start and quicker plateau... the NO game was the beginning of the end.
We need more data points to see what Tannehill will do in the long term. NSF

[Phins78]

YG, but check out the comparisons. Even with the things you stated Tannehill is right up there even winning in most categories. His percentage and yards beat the other two, that's all I care about in a rookie qb. He can move the ball. We just need to get him some play makers that other teams actually have to game plan for. It's pretty ridiculous that Ireland didn't set his rookie up with help in his first season but what do we expect?

[john]

When looking at those stats I see RT= Damon Huard. Hopefully the stats don't tell the whole truth.

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

Phins78,

If Tannehill had the same recievers as Marino, I believe he would be 7-2 also, just like Danny Boy.

[qbclub13]

Right on YG

[Richard B]

This doesn't tell me anything. If the first nine games of someone's career determine their future...

First, the stats confirm what we already know. Touchdowns are good. Interceptions are bad. And Dan Marino was a touchdown machine! That's always a good thing. Marino was Rookie of the Year too. Is that the benchmark for a franchise QB?

As for Tanehill, its way too early to tell. Other notable QBs were interception machines early on. Peyton Manning had 28 picks his rookie year (to 26 TDs, 56.7 completion percentage); John Elway had 14 picks (to 7 TDS, 47.5% completion percentage).

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

Seeinmg some of the post we see over and over in these blogs definitively tells me one thing:

THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF FOOTBALL LITERACY TEST YOU HAVE TO FIRST PASS TO BECOME A FAN.

Im dead serious! LOL...

[Phins78]

Aloco you are talking to the wrong person if you want to debate the big smelly know nothing ego driven Tuna.

1. Hired Ireland
2. Hired Sparano
3. Hired Dan Henning
4. Built an 80's style team, big and lumbering, right in the middle of the pass happy new age of football.
5. Drafted Pat White
6. Signed Ernest Wilford
7. Was happy with Henne because "he reminds me of a young Phil Simms".
8. Quit before the job was done because his mistakes made the team worse every year and he didn't want to be around when the s*&t hit the fan. Left Sparano to answer for all of the bad that he created. He didn't want this to be his legacy so he slinked away before blame was placed and it was genius wasn't it? He has people like you blaming everyone else except the actual guy who was in charge and created the mess. You're hoisting him on your shoulders like a typical ignorant football fan. Think for yourself for a change would ya?

Whatchya got Aloco? Please try to defend this piece of garbage to me.

[ALoco]

YG...FLIP FLOPPING ,IS THE TEST WE SHOULD REQUIRE .........

[qbclub13]

I just don't get the up and down support from the people on here. Be a fan, yesterday was a bad loss it looked like we over looked the titans and was already on Buffalo

[ALoco]

THERE ARE MANY GOOD FALL VEGETALES.,.LOKE CARROT ROOTABAGO PARSENIPS YAM CELRY ROOT CARROT BEATS AND APPLES.,..BUT YOU ONLY GET THE FRESH ONES IN FANCY STORES NOT WHERE YOU PROBABLY ARE IN YOUR TRALERS PARKS

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

ALoco,

Parcells hire "THE GARAGE MECHANIC" Remember?

((BUFFET OF KNOWLEDGE))

[ALoco]

PHINS, YOU HAVE VALID POINT OR 2 ,,,STILL WHEN ROSS CAME AND FORCED TUNA OUT IN HIS THIRD YEAR ,WE WERE BETTER THAN TODAY AS A TEAM..

I BELIEVE WE NEVER LOST 31-3 WHILE THE TUNA WAS AROUND ,DID WE ?

[qbclub13]

I for one feel better about our qb than I have since Marino. I feel a few play makers on o and a rebuilt secondary could make us respectable .

[ALoco]

TUNA HIRED THE (( GARAGE MAN )) ,IT WAS SAFE AS LONG AS THE TUNA WAS AROUND,BUT NOW THE TUNA CAN'T ANSWER FOR THAT ,HE HIRED HIM TO DO WHAT HE'S TOLD .

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

ALOCO

YOU KNOW PLENTY ABOUT FOOD BECAUSE YOU SEE THEM EVRYDAY AS YOU SCRAPE THE PLATES IN THE DISH PIT AT YOUR PLACE OF EMPLOY.

LETS JUST SAY YOU GET PAID TO BE A FOOD CONNISEUR.

((BUFFET OF DISH PITS))

[Dolphin 77]

Bottom line tannehill is not a franchise qb. He will look ok at times, but what everyone saw yesterday and against the texans is what he really is. He is not going to lead miami to a super bowl so go ahead and waste another four years on this guy.

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

ALOCO

WAS THE POT WASHER HIRED FOR YOU TO MAKE HIM DO AS HE'S TOLD?

((BUFFET OF BRILLO PADS))

[ALoco]

YG...WHEN YOU WROTE THESE LO=VE LETTERS TO OUR GARAGE MANAGER ,DID YOU ASK HIM RESIGN ,OR TOY SHOWED YOUR FLIP FLOPPING TO HIM ?

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

Dolphins77,

What I saw yesterday was a qb forced to throw to the only reciever on the entire team that could consistently get open and catch the ball(Hartline).

What did you see?

[Zonk]

You could put an all star team around Tannehill and he'd still stink.

[ALoco]

KRIS...11-5

YG..FLIP FLOPPING ALL THE TIME...

PHINS 78..........WAGON RIDER ,,,,,,,,,,,

[mike]

I for one feel better about our qb than I have since Marino. I feel a few play makers on o and a rebuilt secondary could make us respectable .

Posted by: qbclub13 | November 12, 2012 at 05:31 PM

Exactly the same thing that was said about Henne. LMAO!

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

ALOCO

YESTERDAY I WAS ABOUT TO CROSS A BUSY INTERSECTION WITH ONCOMING TRAFFIC. THEN I FLIP FLOPPED AND CHANGED MY MIND TO WAIT UNTIL IT WAS CLEAR. HAD I NOT FLIP FLOPPED LITTLE BUDDY, I WOULDNT BE HERE TO POST TO YOU TODAY.

((BUFFET OF SAVING MONEY ON OBAMA CARE))

[Rick]

Marino and Henne both started more games in college than Tannehill and neither one of them played WR. And lets not forget Marino was a second team All-Pro his rookie year and won the MVP award the following year. Although you could compare the two, just about any QB in the NFL today is going to fall short of Marino's accomplishments in their first 9 games.

What isn't captured in the table above is the attitude of Marino, Henne, and Tannehill. Marino had confidence, and demanded excellence of those around him.

Henne could throw the ball, but wasn't a leader on the team. Henne continued to get worse under pressure and after time, it carried over week to week.

Tannehill is still very green, much more than Henne and Marino were (especially since Henne sat behind Pennington his first year). But one thing we've seen is Tannehill have a terrible game against Houston, and bounce back against the Raiders. Another bad game against the Jets, better game against the Cardinals.

Tannehill is still finding his footing in being an NFL quarterback. He's inconsistent, and there's no doubt that Sunday's game was his worst. However, I think he has the tools and poise required to even out those bad games and start playing more consistently.

We won't truly know what this kid is made of until the end of next year. Hopefully by then, he'll have a more dependable WR corp.

[ALoco]

WHAT IS YOUR FAVORITE BEST FALL VEGATALE?? I SAY PARESNIPS BUT YOU PROBABLY DO NOT SEE THEM IN YOUR POOR NEGHBORHOODS AND TRALER PARKS.,..THERE THEY JUST HAVE THE CAN CORN AND OLD PEES

[Dolfankenny]

Marino receivers = very good

Henne receivers = average to above average

Tanny receivers = good for sec level

[Howie]

Tannehill is probably better suited to the Arena League then the NFL.

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

ALOCO

YOU SHOULD TRY THE SWAMP CABBAGE AND WILD MUSHROOMS GROWING IN MY BACKYARD. ONE SIP OF THAT SHROOM JUICE AND YOU'LL NEVER GRAB THAT TUBE OF GLUE AGAIN.

((BUFFET OF FALL FLORIDA MENUS))

[ALoco]

TG...YOUR EDUCATION IS VERY LIMITED....THE TRAFFIC EXAMPLE WASN'T FLIP FLOPP ,IT WAS NORMAL THINKING .........

[LOL]

How many excuses can we make up for Tannehill?

[odinseye]

Tannehill has as much talent to work with as Henne did. Jake is obviously diminished but I'll take this passing game talent over 2009.
The comparison is fair.
Thanks, Mando.

Posted by: scourt | November 12, 2012 at 04:46 PM

Mot in the skill positions my friend.

Henne had Ricky Williams, Ronnie Brown, Marshall, Bess, Hartline and Fasano.

For Tannehill, take away his no. 1 WR in Marshall. Then subtract Ricky and Ronnie and add Reggie.

You can talk about Offensive Lineman all you want. But it's quite obvious statistics speak more for your Skill Position Cast. Simply put, Henne had an edge.

[Homer Jones]

LETS EXPLAIN WHY TANNEHILL STINX.

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

ALOCO

DEFINE FLIP FLOP. DOESNT IT BOIL DOWN TO CJANGE ONES MIND? PLEASE HELP.tHERE'S A MENTAL DNA DEFICIENCY THAT ONLY SEEMS TO ATTACK THOSE BORN IN THE SOUTH.

((BUFFET OF SOUTHERN BS))

[Bill]

Tannehill had the advantage of knowing the offensive system. He didnt have to learn plays.

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

ALOCO

IS IT TRUE YOU LOVE FORZEN URINATED COCKTAILS?

((BUFFET OF YELLOW SNOW)))

[ALoco]

YG.........
PLEASE EXPAND ON YOUR POST @ 5;50PM

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

FROZEN

[ALoco]

YG....................

YOUR USE OF THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE MAKES EVEY MAN,WOMAN,AND CHILD PROUD OF THEIR HERITAGE ......

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

ALOCO

@5:50 PM

WE IS REALZ DUMB CUSIN WE FROMMA SOUTH. WEEZ DUNT HAVA A SMORT GENZES LIKEN USINS FORMZA NURTH.

[Dolphin 77]

I saw poor decision making, always taking sacks. Come on now hartline is his security blanket. He should go to bess more. But im telling you he is the same as henne, just bigger. He will look good at times but what he is is a int. Machine!

[Dolphin 77]

He can't finish drives in the redzone. Miami has 6 offensive tds. That's garbage. Same as henne.

[ALoco]

TO BA AN A FAN;;;

YOU GOT TO YOUR TEAM

YO USE CLEAN LANGUAGE WHEN POSTING.....

NEVER FLIP FLOP..........

TAKE A SHOWER EVERY DAY........

[ALoco]

YOU GOT TO LOVE YOUR TEAM

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

Dolphin77,

Tanne's 1st pick Ive seen top 5 qb's still make. He didnt see the lb faking the blitz drop of the lone into the passing lane. That same lb tipped the ball and it landed into the arms of his waiting teammate.

Maybe the 2nd pick should not have been thrown. Fasano was smothered. However, Matt Ryan completed the exact same pass to Tony Gonzalez yesterday for a td. The diffrence was Gonzalez out-physicaled the lb for the ball. Fasano wussed out.

The third pick I dont remember what happened on that. Maybe thats the only one that could 100% attributed to Tannehill as a bad decision. By that time the game was 100% unwinnable anyway. The best qb's throw picks in those situations.

[robbyhernz]

This comparison doesn't show me crap! I don't get the point of it?

[ALoco]

HAPPY
BIRTH
DAY

TO.......................... DD

I HOPE NEXT YEAR YOU WILL BE MAKING 10 MILLION DOLLARS...........

[Razon]

YG

Have you lost your memory? D77 only makes negative, belittling posts in hopes to get a rise out of someone.

DON'T TAKE THE BAIT!

[Yesterday's Gone 4Ever!]

The defense really set the tone fo the blowout allowing that td run after the Bush fumble. Seems things snowballed from there. Then the first Tanne puck netted 14pts.

Within 5 minutes the Titans had 14pts on the scoreboard.

[bill connors]

keep developing thill. we should have a top 10 pick and plenty of others to keep building with.