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Dolphins check in on Routt but signing not likely

The Dolphins have made an inquiry with the agent for cornerback Stanford Routt, NFL sources are telling me. But ...

The Dolphins are not interested at this time.

The team reserves the right to change its mind in the future. Things can change with player injuries and level of play, etc. But the club has no plans to sign Routt any time soon.

So there's that.

Routt is an interesting player because he has so much potential and the Raiders and Chiefs have paid handsomely for that potential. But both have been disappointed with him to the extent they both cut him.

The Raiders drafted Routt in the second round of the 2005 draft after he ran a 4.27 at the scouting combine. In February of 2011 he signed a three-year contract that included $20 million in guarantees over the first two years.

But Routt didn't last with the team into that second year. After starting 15 games in 2011, he was released after a season in which he didn't play up to his price tag.

Seeing an opportunity, the Chiefs last February signed Routt to a three-year deal, this one worth $19.6 million. But the Chiefs stink and Routt was apparently not fitting in well with the defensive scheme. So, yes, he was cut November 5.

Routt, I'm told, is best suited for man press technique. He apparently struggles to learn zone concepts and sometimes has blown coverages on calls.

Having said that, he's out there. The Dolphins checked in on his status because Richard Marshall is on injured reserve and they just gave up 433 yards passing to the Colts.

But nothing is going to happen with him here any time soon.  

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we dont have to franchise Long. He still has a season remaning due to the special clause placed in his rookie contract.

Ross is too vheap to pay good players. Part of the reason the team stinks.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO RELAX AND REALIZE IF THE DOLPHINS WANT TO UPGRADE THERE OFFENSE AT THE RECEIVER POSITION THAN THERE IS ONLY ONE PLAYER(MIKE WALLACE). THE STEELERS DID NOT TAKE CARE OF HIM AND NEXT YEAR EVERYONE WILL BE AFTER HIM. WE CANNOT ALLOW THE JETS OR PATRIOTS TO GET HIM. IF HE GOES TO NFC FINE BUT IF YOU WANT THE DOWN FIELD THREAT FOR TANNEHILL THAN MIKE WALLACE IS YOUR GUY. PICKING A YOUNG RECEIVER IN DRAFT MAY WORK AND MAY NOT. JUST BECAUSE A PLAYER IS YOUNGER DOES NOT ALWAYS MAKE HIM BETTER. GOOD YOUNG RECEIVERS NORMALLY WORK OUT WHEN THEY ARE ON A TEAM THAT DO NOT NEED THEM TO COME IN AND BE THE MAN. PITTSBURGH WILL PROBABLY FRANCHISE HIM! DON'T MATTER HE WILL MAKE THE DOLPHINS BETTER BECAUSE YOU CANNOT DOUBLE HIM WITH HARTLINE ON THE OTHER SIDE. YOU CAN'T STACK THE BOX SO THOMAS,MILLER, AND MAYBE BUSH(I DOUBT IT) WILL HAVE RUNNING LANES. HE WILL EVEN MAKE FASONO AND CLAY JOB EASIER GETTING OPEN. RESIGN YOUR KEY PLAYERS AT REASONABLE COSTS, DRAFT WELL (CB,OL,LB) SIGN WALLACE AND THIS TEAM CAN CONTEND RIGHT WAY. IF YOU GO BACK TO DOLPHIN HISTORY SHULA MADE A TRADE BRINGING IN ALL PRO (PAUL WARFIELD) FROM THAT POINT THE DOLPHIN WENT FROM SO/SO TEAM TO CONTENDERS IMMEDIATELY! FORGET THE COST(2 1ST/RD PCKS) THIS WILL STOP THE CLOSE LOSSES WE BEEN EXPERIENCING THE LAST TWO YEARS! ALLOW THE YOUNGER TALENT TO IMPROVE AND WE WILL BE ABLE TO PUT TEAMS AWAY IN THE 4TH QUARTER! SIGN MIKE WALLACE!! THAT IS OUR 2013 VERSION OF THE PAUL WARFIELD TRADE!

Its really a shame we drafted Long instead of Ryan. Look at what the Falcons are since getting him. Meanwhile we wasted 3 high draft picks on QB's and still dont have anthing near a Matt Ryan.

DC,

To me it's an easy decision. We need to see more of Martin to see if he gets stronger and is Long's heir apparent. Too many other holes on the team right now to be cutting a 4 time Pro Bowl LT loose, moving a second year player to LT and drafting a new RT. Just sounds like a recipe for disaster to me. I'm hopeful that Long will get the big picture and realize he's made more money than one man can spend and that good days are ahead here in Miami. I'm hopeful he negotiates a long term deal that is fair for him and the team. I would think a four or five year deal would be ideal. I would happy that would free up some money for us to spend on other players, helping make this team stronger and that Long will get the security that a long term deal gives.

Shula 73,

your name is appropriate because it's very clear that you love to live in the past. Your probably sad that they did away with 8 track tapes too, right?

Craig, the only reason I think they will is because Long is not playing like a LT worth 15 million/per and I know Ireland has a value base system for a player. If you remember Ireland didn't pay flynn 8 million because he didn't think the value was there.
So I'm just speculating that Long with the way he's playing right now won't be good value at 15 million/year.

Your probably sad that they did away with 8 track tapes too, right?

Posted by: Craig M | November 08, 2012 at 04:47 PM

No they didn't. Did they?

Oh well, I just listen to my Elton John 8 track over and over again anyways.

shula, WE have a QB that hasn't won a playoff game just like matt ryan. I'm not saying getting Long was the right move but ryan hasn't done anything yet. You can win all the games you want in the regular season. If you can't win in the playoffs it means nothing.

Boulderphin,

I think had we taken Matt Ryan over Long, we would possibly be closer to being a solid playoff team right now. Ryan was projected a day 1 starter, meaning possibly no need to sign Pennington, and possibly no 11-5 2008 team.

This means we dont draft 27th 1 season shy of being 1-15. Instead, we win anywhere from 4-7 games with Ryan as day 1 starter, meaning drafting somewhere between 5th and 13th in 2008. If we draft somewhere between 5th/13th in 2008, it drastily changes the entire makeup of this current team.

This would have given chance to place better quality of overall talent on this team.

Going 11-5, afc east champs and playoffs in 2008, 1 season shy of 1-15. Wasnt a step forward for this franchise, it was a true step backwards. It wasnt just a matter of selecting franchise qb over franchise LT. It was also a matter of stagnating the rebuilding proccess as with the departure of Bill Parcells, firing of Tony Sparano, and venomousness of fans towards Jeff Ireland now shows.

The Past has passed, YG. The concern is the present(and the future, somewhat). How do we beat the Titans?

Going 11-5, afc east eas champs, and playoffs were the worst best thing that could have ever happened to a 1-15 so deperately starved for overall talent. We had absolutely "ZERO" business drafting 27th one short season later.

We were unable to draft the overall level of talent needed to significantly upgrade our talent level to where it really needed to be. It all began with drafting Long over Ryan.

YG obsessed again. Now with old theme Ryan vs Long. That's long gone, man!

Oscar,

Youre right, the past is the past. However, finally drafting a 1st rd qb, its really like 2008 has returned all over again. Only this time the the roster's slightly better than the one coming into 2008.

The roster Tannehill takes over is slightly better than one Matt Ryan would taken over. Drafting Tannehill this year is more similar to a 2008 draft day do over than anything else.

Yes, the past is the past, yet at times the past a way of creeping up all over again. 2012 is sort of a do over of what should have happened in 2008. Sometimes the only way to escape the past is not to repeat it.

Oscar,

The Long/Ryan thing isnt long gone. We may have only just escaped with the Tannehill drafting this year.

Long/Ryan changed many things in Miami, not just the franchise qb/LT debate. Not drafting Ryan had changed nearly the entire makeup of our roster based on what happened the entire 2008 season alone.

Think what would this present roster look like had we drafted anywhere from 5th to 11th overall in 2009. Instead of 27th. That also changes what the makeup of our roster would have looked like every season after.

Based on this year alone, we wouldnt have been drafting Ryan Tannehill. No we wouldnt?

It created a 5yr domino effect that was far more and far longer sustaining than just selecting a LT over a qb. As Sparano, he's no longer here as one of the results of it.

Personally, that's what I do all the time, YG. Whenever I become aware of something in the present similar to something in my past, I do the contrary. I have learned that regression, in any of its facets, it's no good.

Oscar,

Also if we had drafted 5th-11th overall in 2009 instead of 27th. Vontae Davis wouldnt be with Dolphins. Therefore this year's Vontae to Colts trade would have never existed. Davis was our 27th pick in 2009.

VIO,

Are you there? Kris was looking for you last night. Did you see? He is still here waiting to talk to you. I guess his wife is pretty boring.

I think had we taken Matt Ryan over Long, we would possibly be closer to being a solid playoff team right now.

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone 4Ever! | November 08, 2012 at 05:47 PM
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This of course can be nothing but speculation. But what the heck, speculating can be fun sometimes.

What you said about Ryan and the Team could be very true. Provided we all consider one very important caveat.

**The Coaching Staff** that Parcells put in place.

I suspect that SpOrano and Henning would have ruined Ryan just like they ruined Pennington and Henne.

They didn't ruin Pennington's skillset so much as they wasted his strong points in forcing an offense on him that didn't really fit. Pennington started 0-3 both seasons in that system. Save for the Wildcat, it was ugly.

In Henne's case it was worse. Henne may never have been a Brett Farve. But I'll maintain that Hennings ruined whatever skills might have been there.

So speculating can be fun and who knows what might have happened? The only facts I can render to qualify my contention is that Henning, over a long, LONG career, was never able to DEVELOP a single young/rookie quarterback. On the contrary, he's ran more than a couple right out of the league. He and Parcells never bought into this passing league stuff and their antiquated offensive systems prove this out.

Had we drafted Ryan, my theory goes like this:

Despite Ryan being considered a day one starter, Parcells would have still scooped up Pennington. Even the highest rookie expectations doesn't beat out veteran leadership(In Parcells and Hennings minds. They believed in a strong defense, strong run game and the passing game as a complimentary afterthought).

Parcells, Ireland and Hennings all decided that there wasn't MUCH, IF ANY, differences in Ryan and Henne. As wrong as they turned out to be, they said it. Maybe it was because of their "Run First" philosophy. I don't know. But it was stated.

So I suspect things would have played out very similarly with Ryan had we drafted him. SpAzano and Hennings would have nearly killed his career by forcing round pegs into square holes. Very similarly to what they did to/with Henne.

By now, Ryan would most likely have the Jaguars at 6-2 and heading for the playoffs.

Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it...........

I love when everyone just talks around the fool and doesn't respond to his moronic posts. It's like he's yelling from the childrens table while the adults talk shop. Good stuff.
Posted by: Phins78 | November 08, 2012 at 12:19 PM

And so here you are acknowledging him? You are one dumb turd.

If I can chime in on the franchise tag debate. And salary.

The Guaranteed Money is really only important when they cut U! THAT IS THE CAP HIT! How much they have payed U already! Jake's cap hit would be about $6 Million a Year! If they cut him. His Salary is $12+ million!

UR SALARY IS BASED ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT. Now on how the signing bonus affects the yearly salary? I don't know how that works. But Usually the Contract is written with a yearly increase! I don't think the signing bonus affects that.

And on the franchise tag. Everyone is correct.

It's 120% of his Salary!!!! Or the $9.5Mil (Top 5)Craig is talking about.

But since Jake already is the highest paid! He will get paid 120% of HIS SALARY!!!!

AND GUESS WHAT?!!

IRELAND WILL PAY IT!! WITH THE BIGGEST SMILE ON HIS FACE! AND ROSS WILL GIVE HIM ALL THE MONEY HE WANTS!!!

Too Bad it's Not the $100 Million Dashi wanted to give Jake!!! Would've loved to see the Hate!!! Toward Jake after $100 Million!! The Cries!! It would've been Epic!!

By now, Ryan would most likely have the Jaguars at 6-2 and heading for the playoffs.

Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it...........

Posted by: odinseye | November 08, 2012 at 06:30 PM


VIO,

Ryan has an elite team around him. He is a very average QB who has yet to even win one playoff game after many tries.

Ryan is still a nobody until he becomes a winner.

Theres yesterdays gone talking about yesterday like he knows how everything would have played out , man do you read the garbage you write , your in your own little world arent you, you have no idea how many games we`d of won , where we would have drafted , if Long would have gotton Ryan killed like he`s tryin to get Tanny , you just don t know , but you come on here and talk about yesterday like thats how it happened , I think a trip to the shrink would do you wonders, I`m tellin you lay off the fantasy football its going to your crazy little mind

VIO,
Are you there? Kris was looking for you last night. Did you see? He is still here waiting to talk to you. I guess his wife is pretty boring.

Posted by: Hermano | November 08, 2012 at 06:21 PM

It FIGURES. This idiot ventures a guess as to why a MAN would be bored. The FIRST thing that comes to HIS mind is a FEMALE-LOL. A Fruedian slip in its own right.

HER-Man-O......

Isn't that the same as SHE-MAN-O.........?

No wonder Women bore him!


Theres yesterdays gone talking about yesterday like he knows how everything would have played out , man do you read the garbage you write , your in your own little world arent you, you have no idea how many games we`d of won , where we would have drafted ,

"if Long would have gotton Ryan killed like he`s tryin to get Tanny , you just don t know , but you come on here and talk about yesterday like thats how it happened,"

I think a trip to the shrink would do you wonders, I`m tellin you lay off the fantasy football its going to your crazy little mind

Posted by: xtremewaysz7 | November 08, 2012 at 06:40 PM

Hey idiot, I separated this for you so you could see what a big idiot you are. Idiot, there's no way we could drafted both Ryan and Long. Seems youre writing about yourself. LOL

routt should of been signed, not saying hes gbreat but hes better than mcdonald who they just signed. hes better than carrol who starts

CHOO CHHHOOOO ALL ABOARD THE CRAZY TRAINN!!!

"if Long would have gotton Ryan killed like he`s tryin to get Tanny"

Posted by: xtremewaysz7 | November 08, 2012 at 06:40 PM

Still rotflmao! This idiot thinks we could drafted both Jake Lnog and Matt Ryan with 2008's 1st overall pick. Bwaaaaaaaaaaah hhaa...........

I am starting to be of the opinion that in the draft which I mean the first two selections it is easier to draft offensive starters than defensive starters.Does anyone have any data to support or dispel this idea.Remember only round 1 and 2.

Ryan is still a nobody until he becomes a winner.

Posted by: Hermano | November 08, 2012 at 06:40 PM

And.............................? Duh!

Hush up Kiddy Kat and sit your a ss back down at the kiddy kat table.

The Grown Folks are talking shop!

Let me clarify further the players have to start for 3 seasons or more on the same team.

davis nwas taken 25th just for tghe record

In this thesis it is easier to find players that can use their own talent than it is to find players that have to react to the opposing player.So it would have to be narrowed down further to skill players on offense no lineman.I consider skill players to be QBs Rbs Wrs TEs,and on defense all the defensive backs and coverage linebackers.

A side comment if the Dolphins were a college at least for the last handful of drafts it would be offensive line U.

If you give me odds I bet Ireland drafts an offensive lineman in the first 5 picks of the 2013 draft.

King Shula,

Barring injury, the first two picks of the draft on either side of the ball has great chance to be a 8-10yr starter for you.

That does not mean he'll be a pro owl or all pro player for you every single year. Only the extremely special talent does this. Just because a guy is one of the first two players drafted, that alone doesnt make him an extremely special talent.

Extremely special talented players are usually the type that come along once in 5-10-15 or more years. No matter what side of the ball.

"Yesterday's gone for ever" you should know better than think about the past :-). It's done deal. I can't think about what if with Ryan and Long. I've done that too much the last few years. We have Tanny now and he seems like the real deal. And philbin seems like he could be as good as Mike Smith. Let's hope we have a good few years coming up. I like where we are.

King Shula,

Skill players on offense?

You never hear of TE going the firt 2 picks. Rarely a rb or te either.

First of all, a rb's shelf life is short. Plus rb's dont have the value they once had. As for te's, even a Anthony Gonzalez is drafted with the first two picks.

A wr? A wr isnt going first two picks unless Matt Millen's gm. Or he better have Megatron written all over him.

On offense, qb and LT are most likely to be selected with the first two pick than any other offensive position. But you say exclude o-linemen. You cant, because you cant exclude lt.

By now, Ryan would most likely have the Jaguars at 6-2 and heading for the playoffs.

Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it...........

Posted by: odinseye | November 08, 2012 at 06:30 PM


A wr? A wr isnt going first two picks unless Matt Millen's gm. Or he better have Megatron written all over him.

On offense, qb and LT are most likely to be selected with the first two pick than any other offensive position. But you say exclude o-linemen. You cant, because you cant exclude lt.

Posted by: Yesterday's Gone 4Ever! | November 08, 2012 at 07:15 PM

AJ Green? J. Jones? You do. They do.

There are no rules about who you pick when, just guidlines.

Every teams situation is different at any given time.

If you give me odds I bet Ireland drafts an offensive lineman in the first 5 picks of the 2013 draft.

Posted by: King Shula | November 08, 2012 at 07:07 PM

You give me the odds and I'll bet he holds off until rounds 4 or 5. We do need at least some better depth along the O-Line. So I would take a shot at a sleeper Lineman by the 5th.

As for the first 5 picks, we have to many needs to fill. To many for even a guy like Ireland to take a lineman here.

We need WR's, CB's, LB's, TE and a Safety. That doesn't even leave enough room for Ireland to pull off one of his infamous Double Downs.

I predict he targets these 5 needs with the first 5 picks and then doubles down on one of them with the 4th rounder!

Give me the odds and I'll bet he waits until the 5th round for an Offensive Lineman.

..So I think this is a good week for the offense to have a big game. Looking at the Titans. They don't do anything particularly well on the defensive side of the ball. I think they are in the bottom 5 in both pass and rush defense. They don't pressure the quarterback very well, so maybe the line gets well so to speak this Sunday.

I don't think it is neccesary this week to establish the run as a must. Not like last week. It would be nice, and eventually paramount that we do. But this week I think we should be able to throw it a bit better if indeed the run is stuffed. Again this isn't a team that has shown the ability to pin their ears back and pressure. This could be in part to the blowout games the Titans have been in. They have been getting throttled. So it may be a mistake on my part to believe the stats. Hopefully we don't find ourselves in a close contest.

On defense. They(Tenn) do run the ball well. Almost 5 ypc. They have better pass numbers then we do. But again I think this is a bit misleading as they play from behind so much that these numbers are more accumilation, then important numbers within the context of a well executed gameplan. All of the indicators point at a team ripe for a beatdown. I know every Sunday is different. And the game will probably be much different then I see it now. But I expect that all the units that struggled last week will rebound, and we will come away with a nice win. Phins 34- Titans 17

Hermano,

King Shula was stating "first two picks" of the draft. AJ Green was "selected 4th" by the Bengals. Anything else I can help you with?

Give me some more odds and I'll bet Ireland lands 3 new starters/upgrades in the first 5 picks(first 3 rounds).

The 1st rounder will be a "Can't Miss" immediate starter.

Of the two 2nd rounders, he'll luck into at least one starter. Same goes for the 3rd round.

If he gets real lucky, we could be looking at 4 immediate/quality starters. This last ones unlikely, but STILL........it's possible!

How cool would it be going into camp next year with a true no. 1 WR(Free Agency)and big upgrades(immediate starters) at Cornerback, Safety and Tight End?

Oh, thank you. I was thinking he stated rounds. Long day.

DD,

I think the Fins/Titan game's a lot closer than you hink. Im sure the players will never admit, but coming into the Colts game 4-3, they may have thought they were "a lot better". So may have gone into that game "slightly looking past the Colts".

We absolutely cannot come into the Titans game "looking past" them. We arent good enough yet to look past any opponent, regardless of what thier record is. Were not yet good enough to go itno a game looking "to blow any opponent out".

If we look past the Titans, look for this to be a 3pt win or loss for us. Or, the Titans could be us at home by 7 or more points. We dont have the talent level to predict big wins. But if it happens it happens. We just cant go abut predicting it.

..Obviously there is a ways to go before we have any idea about where we may go in the draft. The idea of reciever has come up a bunch, and it is an area we will need to improve. I just don't know if the guys coming out next year are first round worthy. Now this may sound like WTF are you talking about. But IMO..I don't see the type of guy playing on saturdays that we couldn't pass on in favor of another position. I know a lot of you have the opinion it should be BPA..(assuming we will be out of the top 15).. And I agree. I just think that the BPA isn't going to be a reciever from this years group.

Also..And I know we aren't the Packers. but they don't have a first round pick in their corps of recievers. They used the second and third, nd later rounds on recievers and tight ends. This may mean nothing, just something to keep an eye on.

*sigh* there is NO point in drafting an OL past the 3rd round. The only OL that hold up in the league are 1st or 2nd round players. RARELY does an OL past the 3rd round work. OL is the most predictable position. You either can or you can't block. If we lose Long then we draft an OL with 1st or 2nd round pick. Which is why we resign Long to a reasonable offer or franchise tag him and deal with our other problems in this draft

..YG. I don't think the team is looking past anyone. But as a fan, I certainly think this is a game we should be able to control. What do they do so well that we can't have a response? For the team, and franchise to grow into eventual contenders(for the future) We need to win these games that we match up well in. Last week wasn't one of them. I just think we are going to have a good showing this week.

Armando, what is this terminology that "the team reserves its right to change its mind in the future". For Christ's sake, this is Front Office terminology in a press release or contract. You are adopting this as if you are Front Office. You are a beat writer for the MH. You are not a Dolphins spokesman. Don't try to be cute about it.

DD,

Say we finish 7-9. That means drafting somewhere between 11th and 15th.

So to truly get an instant impact player regardless of position. We may have to trade up into the top 10. To do this the player has to have a "can miss" label attached to him.

If that player's a corner, he probably goes 1st 5 picks. that maybe to costly to trade up. A wr, I would say would be trading up into the 6th-9th position.

All of this brings me to, if we need to trade into the top 10, Notre Dame's MLB Manti T'eo may be our guy. Then we move Dansby to OLB because I dont see any takers in a trade because of his contract. We may have to eat to much cap money if we cut him to.

Cee-Lo is the Thursday night game theme song. Wasn't he just accused of rape? I guess the NFL can't find anyone that stays out of the bad media.

I beilieve we'll finish somewhere in the 9-7 range. Finishing 9-7 has us drafting somewhere between 15th and 20th. This will make more difficult to get an "instant impact"1st rd player.

Manti T'eo should be a top 10 pick. If we see T'eo slip to 8th, we need to swoop in and trade up to get him. Right now, I dont really see a top 10 worthy wr or corner in college. Yes I think the USC wr's can be pretty good. But, they havent played against upper echelon level nfl corners yet either.

I expect Manti T'eo to be an instant top tier nfl mlb. He could give our defense a heart and soul, plus a true identity too. From day 1 he hits the playing field forus and a long time to come.

Women don't get pregnant from legitimate rape.

I would trade one of our 2nd rd picks to move up and get T'eo. Better to have one true instant impact superstar player than 2 "quality starters".

We need players with family values and pure morals. God fearing and church going young virgin men.

I believe if a woman immediately reports rape. Her chances of getting pregnant could drop to zero. Im sure after getting dna evidence of the perpertrators semen. There has to be a way to clean and sterilized her ovaries preventing the pregnancy.

I think it takes like 24hrs for the seed and egg to form a union. So if the woman waits past this period to report it. The pregnancy may pretty much be on her.

Wait one second- Miami has Bryan Mccan now and I guarantee you he is a playmaker also Mcdonald..... MIAMI GOT VERY LUCKY WITH THESE AQUISITIONS. ITS A VERY BIZARRE SITUATION TO OBTAIN 2 dbs. We will take it

JAGUARS RAPED BY OFFICIALS. NOT FAIR AT ALL. COLTS SCORE ON LUCK SNEAK AND BALL NEVER BROKE PLAIN NO REVIEW AT ALL TOUCHDOWN WHAT A HORRIBLE CALL!!

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