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Kevin Coyle: Record day not a setback

Dolphins defensive coordinator Kevin Coyle is a proud guy so he cannot be too happy his defense  -- until now effective -- was shredded by Andrew Luck on Sunday. Luck established a rookie record for most passing yards in a game.

It was a rookie record.

But a record nonetheless.

This is what Coyle said:

(On the defense allowing 13 of 19 third down conversions) –“It’s obviously very disappointing and that’s been one of our strengths throughout the year. We’ve been consistently getting better in that area. For a number of different reasons, we didn’t get it done yesterday. I think it was a combination of things. They made some plays against us. I wish I had a few calls back in the game. I’ll be the first one to take blame for a good portion of it. I think the combination of them executing and us not executing the defenses that we normally, we didn’t do anything different. We tried a lot of things as the game went on to try to change it up. We rushed them, we covered them, we spied the quarterback, we blitzed them. It wasn’t like, I went back after the game, wanted to see exactly what we called in what instances and tried to determine if there was a pattern or a trend. I don’t think it was that. It was just one of those games that they made some plays and we didn’t and we’ve got to do better. We’ve got to rush the passer better, we’ve got to cover better and I’ve got to do a better job of getting them in position to make the plays.”

(On the team’s struggles blitzing Andrew Luck) – “We hit him 11 or 12 times when we actually got to him, but we didn’t sack him only (but) one time. He made a couple of throws as he was going down to the ground. He made a couple of throws running away from the line of scrimmage. The long touchdown, if you go back and really look at the play, he just threw it up there. He never even saw Sean Smith overlapping the play and really laid it up there where we might have had a chance to make the play. We didn’t make the play. But to his credit, he’s very good in the pocket. He’s got great poise for a young player. As you watch him on tape, you see things that he does that you see a lot of veteran players in the league not do. In other words, when the rush is coming in his face, he’s not fazed by it. He doesn’t change his way, his demeanor. He’ll have a great pocket presence to slide and keep a play alive and we lost the edge a few times and he kept the plays going. I was really impressed with him. Even talking with some of their coaches prior to the game, they were concerned that he does it too much trying to extend plays and they’re worried about that fact. Certainly, yesterday, he made those.” 

(On if yesterday’s performance was a big step back for the secondary) – “No, I don’t think it’s a big step back. It’s a disappointment for all of us and that’s what we talked about today in the unit meeting with everybody, not just the secondary. We’ve been building something here since Coach (Joe) Philbin has come here and our first meetings with the players in April. One game is not going to set us back and I mean that and I told the players that. I said we’ve got a body of work where we were making a lot of progress and the secondary is one area where we have made a lot of progress. I don’t know if there’s anybody that has played the game or coached the game that hasn’t had a game where you come off and say, ‘How did that happen?’ Well, this is one of them and, I’ve got to be honest with you, I’m disappointed. I’ve never seen us get in a situation where we had a team in third-and-long and weren’t able to cash in. That’s always been something we’ve been pretty good at throughout the season here. Certainly, I don’t negate the fact that these guys, when you see them come to work every day the way they do, the way they prepare. It’s a bump in the road for us and a big one and we’ve got to get it turned around right away. Certainly, one game out of eight where we did not perform at the level of our standards, it’s not anybody else’s standards, it’s ours, is very disappointing. And we’re going to take that and energize ourselves as we get prepared for this next one. We’re going to come out and play a heck of a game come Sunday.”

(On the pass defense in the first half of the season) – “Well, rankings, you can twist rankings and statistics a lot of different ways and obviously we’re giving up way too many yards. Yesterday, we gave up way too many big plays in the game. You can also look at the fact that I think we’re somewhere around six or seven in the league in terms of completion percentages against us. I think that there’s been some positives in that sense. We’ve also had 45 passes-a-game thrown against us. By far the number one attempts in the league are against us. Tampa Bay is the only other team that has over 40 and they’re like at 41 and then everybody else is below that. But it’s a combination of we’ve got to do a better job in the coverage and we also have to continue to do a good job in the rush game (and) against the running game. I think, when you make teams throw the ball as much as we are, usually good things are going to happen sooner or later. It didn’t yesterday unfortunately for us. But the bottom line is, even with that being said, we were in the game with an opportunity to win the game at the end and we didn’t. The biggest disappointment… We had two scenarios that happened in the game – the one at the end of the first half where we had them third-and-long and they converted to kick the field goal was a big play in the game. Prior to that, I should say the third-and-nine in the red zone. It’s another area that we’ve been particularly effective in this season. I think right now Chicago’s the only team that is ahead of us in red zone defense in terms of touchdowns per attempts in the red zone per series in the red zone and that’s a good thing. But we gave up one on third-and-nine. We had them right where we wanted them. They gained nothing the first two plays and we gave up a touchdown there. We gave up the one right there before the end of the half and then we had them third-and-12 backed up and that play where they dumped the ball off and we missed a tackle (and) they converted and then eventually went down and kicked the winning field goal. That play was a big swing because, had we stopped them there, they’re going to be punting right around their end zone or out of their end zone and we would have had a chance hopefully to get the ball in good field position at that point, but we didn’t and they went on to continue the drive and score the winning field goal. Like I said, we’ve got our work cut out for us, but these guys have gotten better and I believe in these guys and we’re going to go out there and take the second half of the season. We look at it, we’re eight games in and honestly my wife had to remind me of this on the phone last night because I wasn’t feeling to good, but she said, ‘You know you guys have lost three games by three points, each of them.’ And I hadn’t even thought of that to be quite honest with you. That hadn’t even crossed my mind. When she said that, it kind of dawned on me that, yeah, we’re making progress, but we’re not where we want to be and we can be better. I think the players know that and we’re not going to accept anything less.”

(On if this Sunday against the Titans if the team will copy what the Bears did against them yesterday) – “Well, I’ll tell you what, the Bears did a heck of a job. They started fast. Yeah, we liked to do that, start fast. Actually, the first play of the game was a nice conversion for Tennessee and (Charles) Tillman came from behind and stripped the guy after they gained about 18 yards or so. It didn’t look good initially for the Bears, but they certainly swarmed on defense and they’re playing great defense. We’ll look at them and anybody else that we can get a good thought from and implement it into our package.”

(On how it affects preparation not knowing who the Titans starting quarterback will be) –“Not a whole lot. They’re kind of a system team. They’re going to run their offense. I don’t think the one quarterback changes things dramatically. So we’ll see. I think we’ll know a little bit more as the week goes on because I don’t think the young guy (Jake Locker) has practiced yet and if he’s out there practicing, getting reps, there’s a good chance he’ll play. If not, they made hold him off until after the bye week. They have a bye week after we play them.”

(On how much of a difference it has made with Richard Marshall being out)– “It certainly (has) not helped us. You’ve got a veteran player there who gives us that veteran competitiveness and leadership in the secondary, both on the outside and also in the nickel. Jimmy (Wilson’s) role has expanded. Jimmy’s played well at times. I think I mentioned to you guys last week how impressed I was with how he covered the slot for the Jets (slot receiver Jeremy Kerley) who’s a good player too. And yesterday, he struggled at times. But like I said, there’s not a guy that’s played the game and the best one’s in this game that haven’t had a game where you got beat and you made mistakes. We just seemed to have too many guys at one time do it and we’re going to get it fixed. We’re going to do everything we can to get it fixed.”

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Canadiens dont know football. They should stick to bowling and ice fishing.

I dont know about blowing it up but the least they need to do is get rid of Irescum and get a competent GM in here for once.

Craig, you're asking the head clown to police his underlings ... too funny.

Last time we cornered him, he played dumb like he didn't know what was going on, yet on several blogs he blatantly rips off posters and steals their material without giving credit.

How could this be???

I want us to bring back the aqua pants.

Boulder, you said "clean house" - how am I supposed to interpret that any other way??

Now which of the free agents would you not re-sign and how would you go about replacing them?

Thanks.

Ron Son, it's Canadian, not Canadien (unless you're French). You need to stick to grade one English because kindergarten was obviously way too hard.

FUKKFACE

"Posted by Michael David Smith on November 6, 2012, 7:53 AM EST

Dolphins left tackle Jake Long lost his one-on-one battle with Colts defensive end Dwight Freeney on Sunday, and Long admits that individual battle was a big part of Miami losing the game in Indianapolis.

“It starts with me,” Long said on Monday, via the Sun Sentinel. “I’ve got to do better. That wasn’t good enough.”

Freeney beat Long for a sack on one play, beat Long to hit Dolphins quarterback Ryan Tannehill as he was passing and force a third-down incompletion on another, and he got pressure on Tannehill a few other times. Long didn’t need to be told that, because he was already dwelling on it.

“I’m really hard on myself,” Long said. “I hate it. It kills me. I’m going to make sure I don’t let it happen again.”

Tannehill has to hope Long won’t let it happen again."

And this guy is supposed to be the premiere LT in football??? I wish I could say he just had an off game but he was embarrassed for the 3rd time this season. First the Texans, then the Raiders, & to be honest I didn't think he played all that well against the Cardinals. This isn't a rookie we're talking about. In fact our rookie RT is not the one letting Tannehill get killed.

This reminds me of when Vernon Carey had his first bad season & it was in a contract year. It was after Sparano's first year & they re-signed him b/c he was durable. It made no sense to me at the time b/c he looked like his playing on egg shells that year. I hope that Ireland learned his lesson about signing O-line when they are on the decline. He did it with Smiley, he did it with Grove, & he did it with Carey.

How could Philbin be happy with this & then say, "Yeah Jeff we need to make re-signing this guy our Number 1 priority." It sounds absurd....


I'm more mad than anything at Tannehill. There was plenty of time to score and he throws 3 incomplete passes. And don't tell me he's a rookie. He plain and simple got rattled. If he doesn't acquire composure under time pressure he will never be a Marino or Luck.

Everyone is saying Luck is great after this game. One day he will be, but if 2 of those 3 interceptions were caught by Miami he would have almost an identical stat line to Tannehill's Arizona game, and no one was saying he's great/elite etc. Lore and perception have a lot to do with the fact he's being labeled this great this early

How many times do I have to tell you, you don't write English as you pronounce it.(the surest way to know that somebody is a dunce is if they keep repeating the same mistake under continued teaching).

And while I'm disappointed with the way Long has played what the hell happened to Dansby this year??? I can't even count how many tackles he's missed. This is a guy who used to be excellent in pass coverage. For the amount of money we're paying him I'd be shocked if he wasn't cut to clear out some more cap space.

Sure Sean Smith has to catch that pass for an INT but so does Dansby.

Andrew Luck has all the tools and terrific preparation from that O from Stanford for 4 years. To me, he is a bigger, better, faster John Elway if you can conceive that.

Tannehill is your future. Those of you who diss him and call him TanneHenne are clueless as to what constitutes good QB play. His reading of defenses and switching blocking assignments at the line of scrimmage are extraordinary for someone with as little experience as he.
Sure he still makes mistakes, but he learns quickly how to correct them. After week 1, people saw him have about 6 passes knocked down at the line of scrimmage and started scremaing, he's not ready. Well, he hasn't had more than 2 knocked down since.
If Matt Moore were really a long term answer there are at least 3 or 4 teams that need a starting Qb who would be knocking on Miami's door to trade. (Think, Arizona, KC, etc.)

ALL our LBs were consistently beat in coverage last Sunday.

Tannehill is the 2nd coming of Chad Henne.

The hysteria here is truly something to behold. After ALL those 3rd-down conversions for Indy, after the lack of rushing, after the missed passes, drops, 3-and-outs or stalled drives, after ALL THAT, we were 1 INT away from tying the game at the end. With a secondary that played second worse to none.

Some of you should watch what's going on with the Redskins. Who gave up the world for RG3, and are STILL 3-6. Or check what's going on with the Jets, or Buffalo. We're in 2nd place in the division, and one game out of Playoff contention (as it stands now). With EIGHT, count 'em, EIGHT games left to play in the Season. It's quite possible we go on a 3-game win streak (Titans, Bill, Seahawks at home, all winnable games). Even winning 2-out-of-3 puts us at 6-5 going into December. When's the last time we've been that relevant that late in the Season people? PERSPECTIVE, geesh.

We're going to be ok. We're finding out what we've got this year, so we can make some adjustments and come out blazing next year. At the same time we're playing to WIN NOW! We're not Atlanta, we're not winning every game. We're trying to shed decades of mediocrity off our shoulders. It's a tough slog. Stop being whiny little b*tches and give some credit where it's due!

Oh, and I forgot the two terrible missed calls of the Refs that could have changed the outcome of the game. One of the interference of Dansby to close out the first half, no way was that pass interference.

No, Reality, but RT has failed twice now when in the clutch. More like Mark Sanchez now.

Tanne may not beat Luck, but, the Dolphins can come back and beat the colts. I have an unkind theory. It involves taking one for the gipper.

To me Seahawks is NOT a winnable Game and will be rather a struggle.

Where the fvck is Reggie Bush??!??

Everyone is saying Luck is great after this game. One day he will be, but if 2 of those 3 interceptions were caught by Miami he would have almost an identical stat line to Tannehill's Arizona game, and no one was saying he's great/elite etc. Lore and perception have a lot to do with the fact he's being labeled this great this early

MiamiD20,

He's a rookie & he's not great yet. However he had a great game against us. That's a fact BUT people tend to get ahead of themselves. People were putting JJ Watt in the HOF earlier in the season & it's his 2nd year!!!

If you think Luck is over-hyped what about Cam Newton or RG3??? RG3's style of play may be exciting but it's not going to keep him healthy. The kid is a great athlete but his body will not be able to take the pounding of the NFL.

I'm very happy that we took Tannehill.

Yeah, Sean Smith blew a gimme. He actually had it cradled. What did he move for, better go play some catch with this dude.

DC Dolfan, here to nerd things up once more. Never fils.

Sounds like oscar canosa always thinks the glass is almost empty. Nothing but pessimism.

I have 2 solutions for RT remaining calm in the pocket when under Time restraints.The first one involves Xanax, perhaps taking 0.5mg by the end of the 3rd quarter. The second would be if in any way possible he can get good protection from the Tackles and RBs. That hard hit he took towards the end of the Game was on D. Thomas who is a Major Dunce.

DC,

I admit I got ahead of myself with this team. I thought we would beat the Colts & legitimately contend for a Wildcard. However you will not hear me complaining about Tannehill or the other rookies. I'm pissed off at the down play of Long & Dansby who are supposed to be holding this team together. Long is hurting us this year & that's a fact. When was the last time you heard a LT apologizing for getting your a## kicked in??? This from a guy who is playing for a new contract??? The only reasonable explanation is that his body has broken down & he's simply just not the player he once was. So when people say we should re-sign him I think they're nuts or blind.

Tannehill has blown away my expectations & if we keep healthy he has a chance to be a very good NFL QB.

For some reason, the blocking assignments are being all fuc-ed up.

Oscar,

Did you happen to notice the pressure the Colts were getting on Tannehill??? Of course not. You're talking out of your a@@.

Listen, Wiley, let me get over my anger and then, like always, I will see that glass half-full.

WHRBs

I completely agree with your post at 1:45 and from the looks of things am glad we took Tannehill instead of trading the franchise's future for RGIII. Certainly I would like to have Luck as my QB but every football analyst and "expert" is surprised at how quickly Tannehill was progressed this season. Sure he hasn't led us directly to a win on the final drive, but I expect that to come over time and with experience. I never saw Henne call audibles at the line, he seemed lost out there. If you look at a QB you can tell their persona just by the nonverbal cues they give off. Skelton of Arizona for example looked feeble and skittish out there and was just trying to complete the play without screwing up. He is NOT a franchise QB (that's obvious, but watching him you can just tell, he doesn't have "it" the "swagger"). Tannehill has "it", he has the "swagger". I think we'll see this kid light it up within a few years. This year is all about growth, the fact we're even discussing playoffs shows he and/or the coaching staff is doing something right. We haven't gained any players other than them, in fact, we lost Marshall and Davis and are 4-4 instead of 1-7. Progress?

I saw that pressure, RB's. I also saw many blown blocking assignments. Didn't you?(btw, no need to be insulting, we are already by Internet 103).

I saw that pressure, RB's. I also saw many blown blocking assignments. Didn't you?(btw, no need to be insulting, we are already by Internet 103).

Oscar,

I don't understand. You're blaming Tannehill for missed blocking assignments???

lendenfiengold,
Say it again!

I remember John Elway once, he was hit and almost horizontally to the ground he let that ball go which travelled 45 yds and fell into the receiver's hands. We accept no excuses for QBs poor play, least of all "nerves", RB"s.

HoHo! I thought there was only one Flipper here but I can now see there are many here(regarding Tannehill). True Dolphins Fans, of course.

Oscar, blaming a rookie for anything is like blaming a dude for not incorporating foreplay when he loses his virginity. Unless they play atrociously you cannot blame Tannehill, Martin, or Miller for essentially anything because they're still learning the game. The only person you can get pissy about is Egnew because he hasn't seen the field yet and is still having trouble, and even then we don't know what we have in him and if the coaching staff is waiting to unleash him when he's 100% up to speed (because Fasano and Clay are serviceable up to this point) or if they're simply unimpressed.

Sure John Elway may have thrown a ball 45 yards while being hit, but was he a rookie and is he currently a HOFer? Your comparing apples to oranges on that one. I find it VERY VERY hard to blame Tannehill for this loss.

For those of you being fashionable and ripping up our lines for their play remember that Miami is 12th best in fewest sacks given up and 10th in most sacks for. We are pretty good in both - stop acting like we are horrible in either. Keep these units intact!

Maybe the worst thing a coach could say is "how did that happen?" when it's his job to stop it from happening. Coyle had no answers Sunday, or the day after, he should be looking for them but I doubt he is and Brady is going to S-H-R-E-D our secondary so be prepared to hear more of this nonsense from Coyle after those games.

START MOORE

Stanford Routt???? any word on whether the Dolphins are pursuing him? would be a great combination with marshall when he comes back..

...."This year is all about growth, the fact we're even discussing playoffs shows he and/or the coaching staff is doing something right. We haven't gained any players other than them, in fact, we lost Marshall and Davis and are 4-4 instead of 1-7. Progress?"


MD20,

The progress is definitely there from Tannehill & the coaches we have BUT it's the regression of the left side of the O-line that is a concern.

I honestly don't know how Tannehill has gotten up after some of the blind side hits he has taken this year. It's one thing to get sacked but I've seen him get hit violently & that threatens the future of this entire franchise. And then there are fans who REALLY think that we should actually bring Long back??? For what??? So our 8th overall pick can be in crutches??? I just don't get it.

r.rivera will be looking to coach a d next season.
coyle best wake his axx ^.
lol

For those of you being fashionable and ripping up our lines for their play remember that Miami is 12th best in fewest sacks given up and 10th in most sacks for. We are pretty good in both - stop acting like we are horrible in either. Keep these units intact!

Mark,

12th best with a LT that makes over $10 Million a year??? Yeah let's re-sign him ASAP.

BTW--It's not just the sacks which is why you need to watch the games. Look at the number of QB pressures & the number of hits he takes after he gets rid of the football.

The one game we kept Tannehill clean was the game he threw for over 400 yards. What a coincidence....

WHRBs, I don't Long is losing games, or getting Tannehill killed. I think he's getting older, and coming back to Earth some. I've gone round and round with people (Craig M and others) about Long, should've gotten Ryan, should've traded him for value, etc. With the direction of the team, I think familiarity of the oline playing together is worth more than trying to upgrade from a 4-time ProBowler who's slowing down. Now, I wouldn't pay him top LT money, so that may be a deal-breaker. But I'd re-sign him at a fair price and continue to get better in other areas. As Tannehill improves, other linemen improve, they'll be able to give Long more help when he needs it (like against Freeney). Let's see how Long bounces back this week (I'm predicting he has a pretty good game).

WHRBs, I've made a few lengthy posts on the last blog about Long, in short: bring him back for the right price. He's tasked with protecting the blindside on an island of his own. He had NO help blocking Freeney, one of the top 5 DEs and I dont remember him getting any RB help or even a chip from Incognito, which most OL need on a player of that caliber. I'll take Long back as he's still a top 5 LT but I refuse to overpay him due to injury risk

r.rivera will be looking to coach a d next season.
coyle best wake his axx ^.
lol

2 Watt,

You're putting the blame on Coyle??? Up until Sunday he's performed miracles with our secondary. You seem to be forgetting when our secondary look like that every single week when Sparano was HC & Mike Nolan was our DC.

Tannehill's been pressured up the middle (yet we all love Pouncey), he's been pressured A LOT from the right side (yet no one's saying our rookie RT is garbage). Long is a top 20 player IN THE LEAGUE. Even at 75%, he's better than 9/10's of the LTs out there. You get rid of him, and then you have to draft a guy in the 1st round to get his caliber talent.

Does anyone SERIOUSLY want to draft a 1st-rd olineman next year?

The only consistent Coordinator Coach the Dolphins have is Rizzi. It is a nightmare for a HC to take over the O and D coordinator duties when he realizes that they su-k. Remember Shula never got over the Olivadotti signing.

"WHRBs, I don't Long is losing games, or getting Tannehill killed. I think he's getting older, and coming back to Earth some. I've gone round and round with people (Craig M and others) about Long, should've gotten Ryan, should've traded him for value, etc. With the direction of the team, I think familiarity of the oline playing together is worth more than trying to upgrade from a 4-time ProBowler who's slowing down. Now, I wouldn't pay him top LT money, so that may be a deal-breaker. But I'd re-sign him at a fair price and continue to get better in other areas. As Tannehill improves, other linemen improve, they'll be able to give Long more help when he needs it (like against Freeney). Let's see how Long bounces back this week (I'm predicting he has a pretty good game)."

I don't know what games some of you guys are watching. I posted an article from PFT where he's apologizing for getting his a@@ kicked in!!! When was the last time you read a LT apologizing???

BTW--If Ryan Clady turned down $10 Mill a year from the Broncos I'm positive that Long is looking for Joe Thomas money as well which has a TON of guaranteed money & averages about $12.5 per year.

As far as I remember the game vs Colts, several of the "mistakes" attributables to Sean Smith are rely mistakes from the safeties (of curse not the failed interception when it counts the most).
Either Clemmons or Jones where freeze while reading what luck will do, instead to react to the WR who is coming to their zone (in cover 3) or the WR who gets too deep.
I think the strategy for the secondary wasn't too bad, if the Colts have speedy receivers, we give some cushion. But the things doesn't work out pressuring Luck, so he begin to complete short to medium throws, and then I sense, the defense was immersed in some chaos

I mean if I, another Fan, warned that Long has always had trouble against speed rushers(see John Abraham, Dwight Freeney), wouldn't the Coaches know? C'mon!

WHRB. wish Jake Long away at your own peril. You act like he was matched up against a scrub last week but that was one of the best pass rushers ever he was matched up against. You are looking at this year in isolation. Whether Jake Long is playing to his capabilities or not is not debatable but if you think the line would be better without him, I find it hard to get on board with that. The guy has four pro bowl seasons - nobody from his draft class has that many. You don't send guys like that packing because he plays below par for one season. If anything re-sign him and move him to RT if he continues to regress.

Some chaos, Solorzano? heheheh

RBs, if so, then we let him walk. I just don't see Ireland overpaying for him. When's the last time you saw Ireland overpay for anyone? He doesn't do that. He sticks to his guns. And he'll see Long isn't a "must keep" player right now. He's a "try to keep" or "would be nice to keep" player.

But getting rid of him is only half the battle. Think it through. Who are you replacing him with? Jonathan Martin (have you seen the guys he's let get by him)? Use a high draft pick (again) on a LT, when we have more pressing needs at WR, TE, S, CB, DE pass rusher? Through FA (where you pay more for guys who are closer to being washed up than not)? It has to both make good football sense AND business sense to get rid of a player, not one or the other.

WHRBs, I've made a few lengthy posts on the last blog about Long, in short: bring him back for the right price. He's tasked with protecting the blindside on an island of his own. He had NO help blocking Freeney, one of the top 5 DEs and I dont remember him getting any RB help or even a chip from Incognito, which most OL need on a player of that caliber. I'll take Long back as he's still a top 5 LT but I refuse to overpay him due to injury risk

MD20,

If he were a top 5 LT I'd want him back too but I don't think he is. I have complete trust that when the the season is over & the coaches evaluate him on THIS season (especially Philbin) they are not going to keep him.

Yes, yes, by now from all the Posters have written here we know how you feel all, about Long. Now, talk Tannehill. Armando won't mind. heehee

I posted before the season after Marshall, 85 and Davis were released that Philbin was installing the Greenbay culture in the Dolphins locker room. We don't see any more arrests or any other publicity issues with the Dolphins. We are on the right track.
Give Tannehill some time. Remember Elway and Kelly both were drafted before Marino. Yes Kelly went to 4 superbowls and Elway won 2 but both had RB's. Thomas and Davis, Marino had Sammy Smith.

"WHRB. wish Jake Long away at your own peril. You act like he was matched up against a scrub last week but that was one of the best pass rushers ever he was matched up against. You are looking at this year in isolation. Whether Jake Long is playing to his capabilities or not is not debatable but if you think the line would be better without him, I find it hard to get on board with that. The guy has four pro bowl seasons - nobody from his draft class has that many. You don't send guys like that packing because he plays below par for one season. If anything re-sign him and move him to RT if he continues to regress."

Mark,

Philbin is a former O-line coach & I'll trust what he sees.

Hahaha. Well some to speak "some chaos". Hi Oscar, I hope you are doing well.

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